How will he be remembered?
One of the best regular season QBs of all-time
Pretty average post-season QB
Overall, and most importantly, better than Tom Brady on any All-Time List.
Him and brees will be remembered as the greatest of their era
>>66656335
one of the all time greats, how else?
Depends on how old you are. 30-y-o reporting. He's fucking GOAT.
>>66656445
>>66656449
>>66656470
>>66656488
So. Fucking. Mad.
i've really missed peyton threads. /sp/ during the nfl season just won't be the same. who will insecure bradyfags bitch about now?
Who?
>>66656335
Fondly
43-8
Beating da burrs
Making Cam cry
Doper
as a less handsome noodle arm'd brett favre.
>>66666666
>>66661260
I remember this. This was in overtime, the Browns picked it off right there and still managed to lose.
Friendly reminder that Tom Brady is a systembabby
Manning will go down as an all time great, and his average playoff resume will be offset in time by his two super bowls. Time smudges details.
choker
>>66661260
>that throw
Holy shit, my grandma could have thrown a harder pass than that
>>66656445
>Overall, and most importantly, better than Tom Brady on any All-Time List.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>66661682
And Manning wasn't? You're delusional
>>66661921
confirmed 9 year old bawwwston
manning took 4 different coaches to 4 owls and one of them was 0-16 jim caldwell, MY SIDES
no qb will ever do that again son, manning is the GOAT, brady is a system babby because cassel went 11-5
>>66661921
>System
>4 different coaches to the SB
>2 different Teams
Nah bruh Manning was his own system
>>66659700
Wilson because >us 12s will spam the board with MVP threads
He'll be remembered as one of the greats, the best line of scrimmage professor, and one of the best minds the game will have ever seen.
Unfortunately, the accolades he achieved will be overshadowed by the fact he only has 2 rings. He'll kind of be demoted to Dan Marino tier (God like talent, all time great, but terrible post season career) at worst, or stuck in the tier where the rest of the qbs who only got one or two owls.
He'd be #3 on my list of all time greats, well ahead of system babies like Brady and Young. As far as impact on the game goes? Manning revolutionized the way the quarterback position was played for a few good years.
Glad to see him retire on top.
Below only Montana and Brady, on par with guys like Elway and Favre
GOAT. Montana was pretty close though.
>>66656335
As the undisputed GOAT ala Jordan, Gretsky, etc.
>>66663080
This fella knows his shit
>>66662982
>retire on top.
kek... did you see him play this year? This team doesn't come close to the owl with even a good defense.
He did practically nothing in the final two games.
Autistic Pats fans will remember him as a choker.
Everyone else will remember him as the Unitas of the modern era. Revolutionizing the game and bringing it to a higher level and ending that boring "line up the full back in the I and hand it to the running back 35 times a game."
>>66663371
And yet, all pundits will say in 5 years time is "The Peyton Manning lead Broncos, with their all time great defense...."
Doesn't matter if he played like sheep dick, he's the quarterback, so he gets the glory. Just like system baby Brady gets all of Vinatieri's credit for a few owls.
>>66662630
Seems like a pretty shit system considering it was built around him and continually choked
He will be remembered as the system, carrying garbage head coaches to winning seasons and super bowls
chicken parm and papa johns man that drank a lot of budweiser
Also better than Tom Brady
He will be remembered as an inferior version of Tom Brady
as a stat padding hgh using dome babby choke artist
>>66656335
Best of all time.
You realize the allegations are true. He was adamant about playing more, then HGH man was all over the news.
A pervert that dragged his nuts over an athletic trainer's face just so he can blame it on the black kid.
>>66656445
>>66656445
this pretty much
easily top 3 GOAT behind Montana and Bradshaw
>>66656335
top tier stat padder
big game choker who got carried to playoff success by his defense/kicker
>>66656335
Probably Johnny Unitas tier.
the most overrated athelte in sports history.
>>66663283
Manning on Gretzky's level? Are you on glue?
>>66656445
This
With Peyton you can point to many games and say "Peyton won that" "Peyton lost that" "Peyton played outwordly" etc..
Peyton is and will always be memorable
Tom is one of those players that has had it made for him . He was drafted to a already contending team with a proven coach and even more so staff. The best scouts in all of football + the best coach ever? No shit you'll succeed which is what makes Peyton a rare breed of actually coming in with nothing but a talented WR and a mediorce defense all around and worse a bad staff from coaching to training except the QB coach.
It's sad in my opinion because patriots don't have the best scouts in football anymore since 2014 so the team is going to be built differently in the coming years which will seriously test bill's skill in building a team and as a life long pats fan I know damn well bill can not draft for SHIT but with all that said Tom would actually have to be adjusted under this new scheme which will be overshadowed by the fact that he is aging and we all know age will catch up to you unless you're Green .
Tldr; Peyton =hard work +actual team building > gifted everything
>>66668740
is this a troll post? you couldnt be further away from the truth
>>66668740
>Tom is one of those players that has had it made for him
No.
199th overall pick that was 6th string in Michigan and eventually beat Alabama in the Orange bowl in college. Outplayed Drew Bledsoe in his second year in the NFL and led the team to a super bowl and capped it off with a historic game winning drive and SB MVP award. All in his first year playing. He went on to win 3 more super bowls and 2 more MVP awards.
Manning throws game away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTqXyxvTh0c
Brady wins them.
Manning has had it made for him. Even though he was still a choker even in college, he still was the number one pick and had everything made for him because muh daddy's conncections. And when he sexually assaults someone its muh daddy conncections
Brady would not be where he is if it was not for his insane work ethic and drive to win. There is a reason he is the most decorated player in the NFL. It's not because of Bellichick, who had an awful record before Brady came along. Bellichick has even said that Brady is the GOAT.
Peyton Manning is simply the most overrated QB ever. He was a regular season stat padder that beat up on expansion teams his entire career. Brady is the GOAT, unquestionably.
>>66668856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA0VWLhCh-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZu53NIxboM&nohtml5=False
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgG0ZVcsoWo
Relevant links
lmao Eli is better than Peyton. Peyton is a joke
>>66668840
>literally in the Super Bowl four years before Brady
>before that bill was part of one of the most successful coaching trees ever
>turned cleavland into a serious team for the first time since the 70s
>along with scouts turned the patriots into a juggernaut by simply adding depth in defense and consistency to offense
>drew in his swan song years going down is suddenly looked at like like a what if story and not a "he's getting fucking old" story
>tom seen as some kid that never took the game serious but suddenly was so clutch that he carried the team in the regular and post season
Get real
Any serious football fan will tell you this in a obviously less biased way I'm just being truthful while trying to make the patriots look like gods because it is true .
Patriots weren't just some nobody noname team in the 90s to early 00s
>>66668856
>It's not because of Bellichick
Post irrevelent try again next time
>>66668939
>Patriots weren't just some nobody noname team in the 90s to early 00s
lmao yes they were. Especially in the late 90s and early 00s
When Brady started and Bledsoe went down everyone was saying how good Brady was, when he raped Manning's colts in that one game everyone knew he was the real deal. Suddenly they went from a horrible 5-11 record with Bledsoe to 3 super bowls in less than 6 years with Brady.
Get real you fucking idiot. Hop off foreheads nuts.
Bellichick has also said that Brady is the GOAT. So your point is fucking retarded. especially considering Belichick would have long gotten rid of Brady if he was anything short of the GOAT
Why are Bradyfags so edgy? You don't see other teams fans go through this absolutely relentless crusade to tear down an all time great to make their respective player look better in comparison.
That's how I know Peyton is the GOAT. The stats say so. Not foaming at the mouth greentext and shit. Peyton fans don't endlessly shitpost about Tom Brady. Why are Pats fans so insecure?
Vikings fag btw
>>66668955
What the fuck is "irrevelent" you fucking idiot?
About what I'd expect from someone who legitimately thinks Peyton is the GOAT. LOL
>>66668991
>The stats say so
Stats say so? You mean beating up on expansion teams your whole career so you can have more # Passing yards and Touchdowns rather than actually winning championships?
Let's not forget that he played with Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne his entire career. Jeff Saturday as well who was a great center.
>Gatorade High School Player of the Year
>SEC Freshman of the Year
>Johnny Unitas award
>Davey O'Brien award
>NCAA QB of the year
>Maxwell award
>James E. Sullivan award
>First team ALL-SEC
>SEC Championship MVP
>Consensus All-American
>ESPY award - best college football player
>most touchdowns by a rookie in NFL history
>most touchdowns in a single game. 7 (tied)
>most passing yards in a single season
>most touchdowns in a single season
>most completions in a single season
>greatest statistical quarterback performance in a year
>most passing yards all time
>most touchdowns all time
>most completions all time
>winningest quarterback of all time
>greatest statistical quarterback performance in a career
>14 4000+ passing yard years (most in NFL history)
>13 most consecutive years of 25+ touchdown passes (most in NFL history)
>5 MVPs (most all time)
>14 (fourfuckingteen) probowl nods (most all time)
>most consecutive QB probowl nods (9 straight years (most all time)
>7 NFL 1st team All-Pro nods
>3 NFL 2nd team All-Pro nods
>2 AP offensive player of the year
>Pro Bowl MVP
>NFL 2000 All-Decade team
>2 ESPY awards - best NFL player
>Walter Payton Man of the Year award
>NFL Comeback Player of the Year
>largest TD-INT differential in NFL history
>most seasons with 10+ wins (14 times accomplished)
>most 300+ yard passing games in the playoffs (8)
>PERFECT passer rating (158.3) in a playoff game (done 4 times ever)
>2 time Superbowl champion
>oldest QB to ever start a Superbowl
>only QB to ever win a Superbowl on two different teams
Peyton Manning has literally been the best quarterback in the world at every single level from when he was 17 to when he was 39.
Thank you GOAT. It was a privilege to watch you
>>66669021
These stats >>66669031
I chortle as Pats fans accuse Peyton of statpadding. Pot meet fucking kettle.
>muhh 3 rings when Brady was Ryan Tannehill tier which is completely forgotten about
>>66669031
>any and all forms of passing stats related to Manning
Irrelevant, he has played on stacked offenses his entire carer. Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, DT, Emmanuel Sanders. Brady's #1 receiver most of the time would only be Manning's #3.
>MVPs
Popularity contest mostly. Again, meaningless espically against that expansion team division. Super Bowl MVP is what matters.
>pro bowls
Popularity contest
>Game-Winning drives
Regular Season. AFC South
>Playoff appearances
Manning has the most one and dones in the history of the NFL
>wins
Regular season wins mean literally nothing esp. in the AFC South
Care to try again?
>>66669031
>>only QB to ever win a Superbowl on two different teams
This is false
Many QBs have won superbowls either as a coach of a team(tom Flores) , back up(the Bears QB) or starter(jeff from the Giants)
>>66669031
>>only QB to ever win a Superbowl on two different teams
Manning did literally worse than a backup QB with no experience. That SB win is Brock's and the defenses.
I'm not even gonna get into all the meaningless cherry picked stats you put in greentext. Let's have a friendly reminder. Who has the most super bowl MVPS?
God foreheadfags are pathetic
>>66669079
What individual stat do you consider relevant? Post season passer rating? Since you're obviously an assdamaged Patsfag, Peyton's is practically identical to Brady's.
>>66669079
Brady has too, fucking please.
>somehow Peyton having good players makes Peyton worse
Oh and
>MVPs are mere popularity contests
Patsfags are such cucks. Just let the man retire. I don't even get why a fucking Pats fan thinks he can say shit about football.
No football talent is born in New England. No talent is raised in New England. No talent goes to college at New England schools. Oh but your Mac n Cheese magistrate signs a dude to a 2 year contract and it's somehow reflective of New England football? Top kek.
Tell me more man, I've heard these fucking Pats "arguments" for years and they never change
>>66669103
>What individual stat do you consider relevant
Super bowl ones
3 to 5 INT ratio. 77.4 passer rating. Only SB win against a Grossman led Bears. 1 time MVP
vs
13 to 4 INT ratio. 3 time SB MVP Largest 4th quarter SB deficit erased against a historic defense.
It just goes on and on
>>66669103
>Peyton's is practically identical to Brady's.
Not to mention Peyton didn't have the benefit of his coaches stealing and relaying the defenses' signals to help him know exactly which WR to target before the fucking snap in playoff games.
>>66669164
>Not to mention Peyton didn't have the benefit of his coaches stealing and relaying the defenses' signals to help him know exactly which WR to target before the fucking snap in playoff games.
You are so mad. LMAO.
Brady also didn't have help from HGH.
>>66669138
>It just goes on and on
Actually no, it really doesn't. The cherry picking pretty much ends there.
>>66669202
You're absolutely right, I'm fucking mad the Pats cheated and STILL get a pass on it all these years later. Fucktard.
>>66669206
>cherry picking
>literally the biggest and most important game in all of football
>cherry picking
Are you going to show us a regular season game winning drive against the Jags as the pinnacle of quarterback play?
>>66669216
Got any proofs?
>>66669227
Yeah, that's right, cherry picking.
>It just goes on and on
>>66669266
This is cherry picking meaningless stats and accomplishments during the regular season
>>66669031
This is the biggest game in all of football.
>>66669138
>>66669256
Well there were the selectively chosen tapes Goodell let the press see, which he subsequently gave his good ole buddy Kraft's team a slap on the wrist for. He literally burned the rest. Of course, before all this came out, we already had accusations from players questioning how the Pats players seemed to know exactly what plays, stunts, blitzs, etc. they were running before the snap, that it was beyond coincidence. This is all shit that's been hashed out countless times.
>>66669326
Source?
>>66669295
You really don't know what cherry picking is.
By the way, every game is equally important in the playoffs, because if you lose, you're out. Again, practically the same postseason passer rating.
>>66668740
>tl;Dr I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
>>66669340
>>66669365
If you actually did any research
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1061258-fired-up-setting-the-record-straight-on-spygate
>>66668991
>the stats
People who constantly quote stats often 1. Have not watched that much sports and 2. have never taken a statistics class.
Montana>Brady ≥>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>manning>Marino
>>66669364
Very revisionist history. Before Brady comes to NE the patriots had been god awful, yeah they were on the upswing but it wasn't a sure thing. Payton wasn't gifted anything? Not elite receiving cores? Not being taken into the loving jaw of John Elway bc symmetry and being gifted an elite defense and a elite offense?
>>66669103
>what stats do you consider..
The rings on his mother fucking fingers.
Stats are for nerds who need to justify the absolute disappointment that was Peyton Manning career. Anyone who calls Peyton the GOAT is riding the wave since he retired. He is not the GOAT. He is Marino tier. I have a fucking stat for you
4 rings > 2
>>66669440
this. dont forget 3 Super bowl MVPs > any amount of regular season mvps
>>66669206
>cherry picking
No, your regular season AFC south stats are cherry picks.
Brady owns manning. Both Head to head and career accomplishments.
You manning fans sound like the black dudes in the barbershop in coming to america who says Sonny Liston was better than Cassius Clay even though Clay slayed him twice. Manning will always be Brady's bitch.
>>66669348
>post season passer rating
GTFO
4 rings > 2
Most one and done in the playoffs? Manning.
>>66656335
A career underachiever
>>66669445
Those early Brady MVPs were also won by popularity contests... Why the fuck did Vinatieri not get the MVPs? He hit the FGs to win the game. Brady was game manager as fuck.
>>66668740
7/10 bait. Not elite bait, but definitely above average.
>>66671852
How old are you 12?
I pretty good football player
>>66656335
Piece of shit who ruined our year
06 Never Forgetti
Question 4) Complete the sentence:
>HGH, you taste so _____
a) Wife
b) Chicken Parm
c) Good
d) Asterisk
e) 4 rings
>>66676210
>Piece of shit who ruined our year
That was the refs and their phantom pi calls on hobbs in the endzone giving them a free Td basically.
Kek the only real win Manning has against Brady the refs fixed for him .
Friendly reminder that PeyPey would only have one ring if the NFL hadn't decided to make the Super Bowl his retirement party.
- t. buttblasted Giants fan mad that I can't say Eli has more rings than him anymore
Patriots went 11-6 without prime Brady. Colts did not approach playoff contention without Manning.
If Manning had been drafted by the Patriots he would as many rings or more than Brady does.
Brady is an all-time great. So is Manning. Brady had the fortune to play for an all-time great coach, and behind statistically the greatest offensive lineasty in NFL History.
the only guy to ever ride coat tails to a super bowl harder than trent dilfer
>>66669384
>Bleacher Report as a credible news source
A fat pizza eating cheater
>>66664093
Yeah man I remember when Vinny led them down the field with those amazing throws with barely a minute left in the game. I also remember when he went a perfect 1/3 in the Carolina owl. So clutch.
>>66663515
Casuals get out, you're ruining my nfl
>>66656335
Even though Peyton's last NFL season wasn't as great as his previous 17 seasons, he still got to go out a Super Bowl champion. That's a rare thing for an athlete in any professional sport to do. I will remember Manning as one of the all-time great NFL QBs, despite winning only 2 Super Bowl championships (1 with the Colts, 1 with the Broncos).
Better than that cheater Tom Brady.
>>66667377
Bradshaw? Really?
>>66682829
jej
>>66682829
Exactly. Manning played in 4 Super Bowls w/4 different coaches (Dungy w/Colts in XLI, Caldwell w/Colts in XLIV, Fox w/Broncos in XLVIII, and Kubiak w/Broncos in 50). Brady's played in 6 Super Bowls w/1 coach (Belichick).
>>66669079
>Super Bowl MVP is what matters.
Get fucked. Lawrence Taylor was NFL MVP and he had hugely more impact and influence on the game than Brady ever has or ever will.
>>66663283
Manning on Jordan's level
>>66663283
Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
Worse than Brady and Brees
>>66682934
Objectively false
I'm a Broncos fan so I'll always remember him as: >GOAT 2013 season
>choke in that SB
>suck in 2015
>win that SB
>top 5 all time
>not top 2 all time
pretty simple, really
I love Peyton
>>66684172
Pretty much sums it up for me. Though I always had a soft spot for him on the colts too. Plus he has plenty of amazing moments.
/sp/ needs an eternal peypey thread
let's settle this once and for all:
http://strawpoll.me/7321380
http://strawpoll.me/7321380
http://strawpoll.me/7321380
http://strawpoll.me/7321380
>>66683893
John Madden
"Lawrence Taylor, defensively, has had as big an impact as any player I've ever seen. He changed the way defense is played, the way pass-rushing is played, the way linebackers play and the way offenses block linebackers."
"Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs developed the two tight end offense and the position of h-back to prevent Taylor from blitzing into the backfield unhindered."We had to try in some way have a special game plan just for Lawrence Taylor. Now you didn't do that very often in this league but I think he's one person that we learned the lesson the hard way. We lost ball games."His skills changed the way offensive coaches blocked linebackers. In the late '70s and early '80s, a blitzing linebacker was picked up by a running back. However, these players were no match for Taylor.The tactic employed by San Francisco 49ers head coach Bill Walsh in the 1982 playoffs, using an offensive guard to block Taylor, was copied around the league. However, this left a hole in pass protection that a blitzing middle linebacker could exploit. Later, Walsh and other coaches began using offensive tackles to block Taylor. Later it became common for offensive linemen to pick up blitzing linebackers. In addition to the changes in offensive schemes Taylor influenced, he also introduced new defensive techniques to the game such as chopping the ball out of the quarterback's hands rather than tackling him"
So what exactly has Brady done to impact the game in a manner like this?
>>66656335
>>66656445
>>66668740
>the guy who threw 3 touchdowns and 5 interceptions in 4 Super Bowls
Brady literally threw more touchdowns in his last Super Bowl than Peyton threw in all four.
>>66656335
the old white man that cucked all racists in his last super bowl
Peyton's legacy is the biggest choker of all time
all that talent and the guy could never play well when it really mattered
>>66684172
Pretty much this. 2013 will always be remembered as the Peyton and Rahim stole a super bowl from Denver.
Brady is better. Even when he loses he outperforms Peyton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JptnIxkllRo
>>66682944
go away RBL
Only way Brady gets respect is if he goes to another team like the Browns and wins an Owl with them or at least take them to the Championship. Otherwise he's the quintessential system baby.
>>66661875
Problem is his tendons in Manning's feet where liquidifed so along with no arm strength, he couldn't get a push off from his feet to add power to his throws. Manning was running on a fumes for the entire season and he still managed to outplay Brady in the playoffs.
>>66693952
>Gronk baby
>Outperforms Manning
Yeah, give Manning the best TE in the league and see how things go.
>>66656335
as a fivehead
GOAT beer and pizza salesman.
A massive choker
>>66682914
>Brady won as many as manning has been too
>Brady threw more touchdowns in his last owl then Manning has in 4
That damn belichick system giving him better stats with worse receivers
Also
>penalizing a player for being loyal
How autistic are you?
>>66686086
Won 4 Super Bowls went to 6. Had the only undefeated regular season.
What has Peyton won!
>>66694167
Literally had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne 2 HOF receivers his entire career. Went to Denver with a stacked offense with DT and Sanders.
Brady has won Super Bowls with Troy ducking brown as his number 1. Brady's number 1 most days wouldn't even be manning number 3 wr.
He has won 3 bowls without gronk. Let's not forget that gronk gets injured a lot too so it's less than 4 seasons he's had gronk whereas manning had had Harrison, Wayne , DT, and sanders.
>Chicken Parm you taste so good
