>>66590415
was this a rumor?

>>66590415
Wouldn't surprise me if he did, seems like a bitch #refugeeswelcome faggot

>>66590415
he seems like a legit crybaby so yeah he probably did

Yes, Mourinho was right about Casillas, Ramos and Donald being locker room cancer

Mourinho was the problem, not him

>>66590465
Somehow Marca got and published Mourinho's line-up before a Clasico back in 2011, which was quite unusual with Pepe as a DM. There was certainly a rat and Casillas is the biggest suspect.

idk, unsure if mourinho knew what he was getting into with the Madrid job. Perez has too much power, Casillas and Ramos were fan favorites. It's understandable that he would listen to them over mourinho since he himself knows fuck all.

>>66590415
Yeah, totally did, Mourinho was right about him being a snake.

>>66590415
anyone who betrays Mou gets their life ruined

look at Casillas, and now Azar

>>66590415
>>66590656

Mou didn't suspect of him, but of Pedro León (or Granero, I can't remember that right).
Anyways, it's not like Mou did anything positive in Real 2bh. 3 years in a team like that and only won 1 relevant title.

>>66590923
>it's not like Mou did anything positive in Real 2bh
he literally won them their only league title in the last 8 years and made some of the best transfers in club's recent history (Di Maria, Ozil, Modric)

>>66590956
>Ozil
>good
ayyy

He literally destroyed the dress room, took a club proud of its offensive-football history and turned it into a buses company. Got rekt by Barça 5-0, destroyed Casillas career, created two sides among the supporters, etc.
He is not a top manager m80. Open your eyes.

>>66590526
You'd think Mou would get along with Cristina because they're both Poortuguese but their macho alpha culture and their egotistical need to be in command probably put them at odds.

>>66591008
kek if Mou isn't a top manager who is

>>66591008
>bought for 15m
>53 La Liga assists in 3 years (literally as many as Messi)
>sold for 50m
>not a good transfer
He also broke the La Liga goalscoring record. The bus meme has to die already.

Also none of those criticism's are valid as long as he remains the only Real coach who was able to win the league during the unprecedented era Barcelona dominance

>>66591038
anyone that doesn't need to play ultradefensive to win anything
anyone that didn't get btfo in the weakest EPL in 20 years

>>66591106
name 5 "top managers"

>>66591106
>anyone that doesn't need to play ultradefensive to win anything
How did he break the La Liga scoring record? If his teams are able to do that while playing ultradefensive football then I'd say it just shows how good he is

>>66591127
Guardiolel, Pellegrini, Conte, Ancelotti, Gary Neville.

>>66591127
Ranieri, Slutsky, Guardiola, AVB, and Tuchel.

>>66591175
>implying you can't play ultradefensive and hoof it up for quick players to score in counterattacks.
lrn2footy

>>66591188
>>66591183
>unironically rating Guardiola

>>66591194
And how is that a bad thing?

>>66591206
It's not a bad thing for small teams like Porto or Chelsea but it shouldn't be acceptable in Real Madrid.

>>66591188
>Slutkzy

What the hell has that fat loser won? Russia constantly underperforms in international games, and Zenit have the league wrapped around their finger

>>66591194
>hoof it up

nice meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf0tVCs2xFQ

>>66591127
Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan and Dylan

Hiddink, Ancelotti, Multinovic, Ranieri, and Gary Neville

>>66591223
Guess he should've just tried to outpass Guardiola's Barcelona and Messi.

Good luck with that.

>>66591194
>inb4 "I was only pretending to be retarded"

>>66591247
>implying this is not hoofing it up

3 years and 1 title = shit manager
its not like he was short on money or good players. Ancelotti won La Décima just as he left and then made a way better football than Mou ever did. They didn't win the league the next year almost by accident and because Real is living now with Messi what Barça lived with Di Stéfano.

>>66591087
>none of those are valid bevause he won the league once in 3 years when he easily could've done it three times if he wasn't such an inept idiot

>>66591269
For a man who basically considered himself Guardiola's kryptonite you think he would

>>66591008
>destroyed Casillas career
>Implying this is bad
Fuck off faggot

>>66591476
retard

>>66591453
>"he easily could have won the league against Peps 2010-11 Barcelona" fucking lol why doesn't Perez just hire you. You would just manage the fuck out of those games against what was arguably the best team ever, right?

>>66590415
Well at least it's not as bad as Cesar

>>66591363
>b-but he only won 1 league title in 3 years
Every other Real manager since 2008 won 0 league titles in 5 years

>>66591499
Nice argument, shithead

>>66591512
>Real manager
>Staying in post for 5 years
what are you even talking about Indonesia

>>66591500
I probably could. It would not dropping an easy 6 points to Zaragoza, Gijon

Not constantly engulfing your team in media controversy

>>66591514
>to be better than Guardiola you must "outpass" him
>muh possession

your retardness is self-evident, the fact that I had to explain it is further proof.

>>66591541
kek okay m8

>>66591512
That doesnt mean Mourinho did well

>>66591535
>you in charge of reading comprehension

>>66591363
>3 years and 1 title = shit manager

He was going up against possibly the best team of all time tbf.

>>66591453

Nobody could easily beat Guardiola's Barcelona team, it was impressive that he even did it once.

>>66591549
I didnt make the argument. Mourinho did. And its not about "outpassing" its about being able to not embarrass yourselves against them

>>66591008
> this whole post
wew pedro

>>66591559
the club was a pathetic mess when he arrived. they hadn't been to CL quarter finals for 6 years before he arrived and when he left they were perennial semi finalists

and he did better in the league than any other manager since 2008. Ancelotti unironically finished 3rd in a two team league

>>66591559

He turned Real from a joke in the CL into an actual contender again, won them their first league title since 2008, and built the team that went on to win La Decima. I think he did pretty well, would have won a lot more if Casillas, Ramos, and Ronaldo hadn't been divas.

>>66591594
So it doesnt matter that you had every resource and opportunity to do so and tore yourself and your team down?

>>66591008
>destroyed Casillas career
I wonder when this meme will die?

>>66591624
>Real in 2010
>joke of a club that spent 250m in one summer, won nothing and got BTFO by Lyon in CL ro16 (after buying Lyon's best player)
>Real in 2013
>a year removed from a league title and a top 3 team in the world
>tore the team
lmao

>>66591601
And left it in a more pathetic mess

>3rd in a two team league

Evidently, it isnt remotely a two team league anymore

>>66591606
He is a joke when it comes to the media, he gouged out a coaches eye, got himself sent off multiple times, etc. And you're blaming a couple players based off of his word?

>>66591659
Yes, Madrid was just fine in 2013, after winning absolutely nothing, getting embarrassed by Dortmund, blown away by a paper thin Barcelona, losing the Cup at home to Atletico, and the entire team divided

Mourinho was perfect.

>>66591624
>So it doesnt matter that you had every resource and opportunity to do so

All the resources in the world can't buy the equivalent of Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, and Busquets, or the team chemistry those guys had from playing together for years.

>tore yourself and your team down?

How? By winning the league in an era where Barca were virtually unstoppable? By rebuilding the CL reputation of a club that got BTFO by Liverpool? By adding players that dramatically improved the team and left it in a better position when he left it than when he found it?


And why are you saying "you/yourself/your"? Do you think I'm Mourinho?

>>66591660
Madrid as a whole is a joke when it comes to media you fuckwit. that team is a media circus all year round with their galacticos

>>66591660
>And left it in a more pathetic mess
a league title and 3 consecutive CL semi finals is worse than no league titles and CL ro16?

>>66591689
>getting embarrassed by Dortmund

Losing 4-3 on aggregate is getting embarrassed? If that's embarrassing, than what word would you use to describe Bayern winning 7-0 over Barca in the same round?

>>66591695
So why did he beat them once then? Luck or his managerial prowess? The same prowess that he embarrassingly threw away in each season in some way due to his own ego?

>how
>>66591689

>BTFO by Liverpool

The same Liverpool team that finished second in the league that year

>virtually unstoppable
Clearly not besides one year which they were still very much stoppable. Surprise surprise, Mourinho was unable to capitalize on anything

>>66591731
They lost 4-1 at Dortmund. Stop being obtuse

>>66591771
>So why did he beat them once then?
Because Barcelona had much better players. And he still managed to finish above them in the league once, which is exactly one more time than any manager they've had since Pep took over at Barca

>>66591780
And then won 2-0 and were 1 goal away from progressing. I'll just assume you're new to the sport and not familiar with two legged ties and aggregate scores :^)

>>66591771
>So why did he beat them once then? Luck or his managerial prowess? The same prowess that he embarrassingly threw away in each season in some way due to his own ego?

You don't think it's possible that he could have done a good job as manager, but Barcelona still won the league in 2 out of 3 seasons because they were just that good?

>Clearly not besides one year which they were still very much stoppable. Surprise surprise, Mourinho was unable to capitalize on anything

Winning the league isn't capitalizing to you? What more could you ask for?

>>66591806
And lost 4-1 at Dortmund to begin with. You dont need to come up just short if you dont fuck up.

You're not even trying to understand any point I'm making. You're arguing for the sake of arguing at this point

>>66591846
And in the end being 1 goal away from progression is not getting embarrassed.

You know what's getting embarrassed? Being the highest spending team in the world that's unable to reach the CL quarters for 6 straight years

>>66591818
You dont think its possible Mourinho couldnt have done more if he wasnt an egotistical sociopath? You dont think literally any of his antics or managerial style had any effect on the team? Amd everything is as simple as who seems like they have the better players on paper?

He capitalized with one league title in 3 years, got dumped by Bayern in a gimme CL matchup that same season

>>66591886
Oh ok, so I guess we're just gonna ignore the embarrassing hole that was dug to begin with because you want to argue

>>66591901
>He capitalized with one league title in 3 years
You do realise that the "1 league title in 3 years" argument holds no water when it's the only league title they've won in 8 years, right?

>>66591918
No matter how you slice it, being 1 goal away from CL final >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being unable to reach the CL quarter final in 6 years

>>66591933
That has nothing to do with Mourinho at Madrid as it has to do with other managers at Madrid. Its a false equivalency

>>66591952
No matter how you slice it. Losing 4-1 and essentially putting yourself in an inescapable spot, is embarrassing

The other managers do not matter

>>66592003
>The other managers do not matter
Alright.

Losing 4-1 in the CL semi final >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being unable to reach the CL quarter final for 6 years

He left the club in a much better shape than when he arrived.

>>66591719
What are you trying to say? Milito's goal in the 1st leg was offside and Bojan had a goal wrongfully disallowed.

>>66592029
You're still bringing up other managers that do not matter

>still left the club in better shape

Debatable. Not hard anyways if you arent completely useless.

I guess he did good in that he opened the door to Ancelotti to win the CL

>>66592079
And Thiago Motta was wrongfully sent off 10 minutes in, Pique's goal was offside, and Milito had a legitimate goal scoring opportunity wrongly called offside

>>66592108
He won 1 title and 1 CdR against the best team of all time and made Real put up a fight against them after being Barcelona's bitches for 2 years. If that's bad according to you then it says more about you than Mourinho.

>Debatable
No, it's not. Real Madrid was a joke club in 2010 and a top 3 club in 2013

>>66592160
The best team of all time for one year? What about that paper thin Barcelona team in 2013 that he couldnt keep up with?

The fact of the matter is that Mourinho had chance after chance to really make an impact. But only got 1 league title and a cup when he obviously could've done MUCH more

>top 3 club in 2013
Bayern, Barcelona, Dortmund, Juventus, apparently Atletico too since he blew the cup final against them at home

The team was left in shambles again when he was done. You are still ignoring literally every aspect and consequence behind your reasoning. Fuck off

>>66592272
>What about that paper thin Barcelona team in 2013 that he couldnt keep up with?
What about it? It was a fantastic team until Messi got injured and Tito got cancer. They equalled the La Liga points record and went 18W 1D 0L in the first half of the season (the 1D was vs Mourinho), there was no keeping up with them

>Bayern, Barcelona, Dortmund, Juventus, apparently Atletico too since he blew the cup final against them at home
>3 consecutive CL semi finals
>not a top 3 team
>shambles
lmao

>>66592108
Madrid in 2010
>Joke in Europe, no quarter finals in 8 years
>Rivals reking Europe and the league despite out spending them massively

Enter Jose
>Turns this heap of shit team into the best counterattacking team on the planet while making several good transfers along the way
>Makes the 'rivalry' a rivalry again by turning a Jok of a team into an elite team
>3 straight semi final appearances immediately
>Beat the best club team of all time to a league title, something predecessors and successors alike have failed to do despite out spending you
>Leaves the team as serious contenders in Europe, while your successor spends a cheeky world record fee on Bale and use your squad you built for three years plus Bale to win the CL
>He finishes third in a two team league

>>66592272
Are you an Arsenal bandwagoner? What else explains your irrational bias against Mourinho?

Also, reminder that Pep never won a CL without Messi and probably never will.

>>66592316
The entire team was battling injuries all season.

>no keeping up

How about winning? They beat them to win the Supercup just fine.

They were shit and Mourinho was shit for not being able to keep up

>muh stats

You're a retard ignoring literally every single context. I'm done with you.

I've won btw ;^D

Go castrate yourself now, byeeee

>>66592367
>How about winning?
He drew and beat them in the league that season. Barcelona winning 99% of their other league games was something Mourinho had no influence upon.

>They were shit and Mourinho was shit for not being able to keep up
Shit teams don't pick up 100 points in the league

>>66592348
I forgot Mourinho had Bale, Isco, and Carvajal and used a Bale-Benzema-Ronaldo trident, I forgot Mourinho actually won the CL with that same team against Bayern and Atletico

Again, the other managers do not matter

>third in a two team league

This again is stupid. Atletico WON the league. And are still title contenders to this day. They made the CL final as well, eliminating Barcelona on the way

>>66590656
wasn't it already established it was actually dudek who was the rat?

>>66592122
the picture clearly says 1st yellow card minute 10, second yellow for punching busquets, min 28.

let's not forget snejider foul on dani alves in the box wasn't called either

that inter victory was far from deserved or fair

barcelona also travelled by bus because of iceland vulcano eruption

>>66592430
Isco was a bit part player in Carlos first season. But Carlo took Joses team, took out Arbeloa and spent about 100m on Bale and Carvajal and almost lost the CL because he kept Casillas around when he was clearly past his best.

How do the other managers not matter, Jose performance can knly be compared here with his predecessors and successors who he was superior to.

Tata Martino is literally embarrassing high school phase you want to forget about: the manager, and his tenure was rightfully terrible, and Ancelottis league performance was even worse, and the combination of shit gave Atletico a rare opportunity to legitimately challenge for the title which they took well

>>66592800
Since Pep took over at Barcelona

Mourinho vs Barcelona - 5W 5D 6L

Every other Real coach vs Barcelona - 3W 0D 8L

>>66592272
>>66592367
This american is so fucking retarded if he makes you angry it's your fault for taking him seriously.