http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/27/roy-hodgson-wayne-rooney-euro-2016
>Roy Hodgson says he will not jettison Wayne Rooney for Euro 2016
>• England manager will remain loyal to his country’s leading scorer
>• Hodgson: ‘Wayne, I repeat, is our captain’
Fucking of course. Not just in England, but fucking everybody wants to see how Vardy and Kane do up front in the Euros, what the fuck woy. You fucking little cunt. He has the chance to literally make a football fairytale come true and instead he chooses for fucking pooney.
>england have their best team in generations but will lose because their manager is incompetent and afraid of sponsors.
>>66438136
Woy is too scared to put his foot down. He's too scared because Rooney is a bully. Everyone seems to forget how he held United to ransom a few years ago.
>it doesn’t please me too much when it is suggested that the moment he gets injured and doesn’t play he deserves to be jettisoned in some way. He certainly doesn’t deserve that and when he comes back and is fit again he is going to be putting enormous pressure on these players, just as these players have been putting enormous pressure on him. That’s the situation we are looking forward to.
To be fair, he doesn't say that he's going to walk straight back into the team. I know he will, when he shouldn't even be in the squad, but still.
I'm glad this thread was made.
We did need another one on the exact same topic, with the exact same sources, saying the exact same thing.
10/10 thread. Would post in again.
>The FA is literally forcing Woy to play Rooney to appease sponsors
What happened to football lads?
When will Rooney become a CM? Even Messi plays deeper than him these days.
Rooney has good vision and good range of passing. He is composed on the ball and has good work rate. He couldn't be any worse than Henderson at CM
>>66438136
This is how you include Rooney in the team.
>>66438401
Place Sterling in Alli's place and Alli in Rooney's place and you have a better team.
>>66438401
Yeah, let's put two players out on the wing that never play in those positions. Fuck off.
>>66438401
Sorry, I meant to post this one.
>>66438413
I'm having a bad morning. This is one I'd rather play, but perhaps stick sterling or lallana in the hole with alli deeper?
England have been held back for a generation by 'big name' shit players who dont have the emotional intelligence to quit.
Daily reminder that Steven Fucking Gerrard now plays in the MLS yet represented his country at the last World Cup. A Championship player would never dream of playing for the national team, yet has been 'big names' who play at an even lower standard walk in.
The same Steven Gerrard was affronted at not being offered a new contract at Liverpool, despite being laughably shit and past his prime YEARS ago.
Lampard, Cole, Rooney, Gerrard; they just dragged the team down with their shittiness while good, young players sit on the bench and dont get called up at all.
The same Steven Gerrard retired in disgrace after playing Luis Suarez through on goal to knock his own country out of the world cup only to have Woy say it was a rash decision and he didn't agree with him retiring.
It makes sense
>>66438401
>4231
Yawn
>>66438436
Sturridge for Barkley and switch him with Alli
From my point of view
>>66438233
It's their best team of the last 6 years.
>>66438233
>best team in generations
>that flag
why do you still talk about fucking football
>>66438491
rooney is better than lallana or milner even on the wing
>>66438541
Same reason there are English dentists. And just like an English dentist, an American can know all there is to know about football, but being English, you still won't listen or brush your teeth.
>Rooney shouldn't be included because he's out of form and has been injured, even though he was top scorer in qualifying
>Wilshire should still go, even though he's permaded
Is /sp/ ever right about anything?
>>66438441
Your opinion and argument my be valid but intill you cross that boarder I don't want to hear another word from you.
>capitalist pig
>>66438610
I don't want to be that guy but England has the best dental record in the world.
>Stereotypes
>U.S
come now Bruv
>>66438630
>top scorer in qualifying
san marino (2)
slovenia (2)
estonia (1)
lithuania (1)
switzerland (1)
wew
"I've been very impressed so have called Dier up with Drinkwater, who does a similar job for Leicester City.
"They're still in the shadow of Jack Wilshere, who did so well for us before his injury."
reminder that bench permacrocks who have played LITERALLY 0 (ZERO) games this season will be chosen ahead of two regular starters, both of whom are challenging for the league title.
seriously, fuck this guy.
>>66438446
I know your trolling but...
Rooney has been constantly shit for England time after time, his best performance was swearing at the camera while getting booed off. Rooney had two good seasons at united eight years ago.
Drop the trogladite now!!!
>>66438391
He's shite at central midfield he already failed at it
>They're still in the shadow of Jack Wilshere
>>66438784
Tbf neither of them had a good game against barca 5 years ago in a tie they eventually lost anyway, they can't compete with Jack wilscum
Does this qualify as Woy chatting shit?
>>66438780
He's our legend/
Could of easily been yours.
How does he keep his number?
>>66438733
You want him to score against teams we're not playing?
What's happening with Sturridge? I thought people said he was better than Kane and Vardy?
--------------Forster
Clyne Smalling Cahill Rose
----------Dier Drinkwater
Vardy--------Alli-------Sterling
---------------Kane
hopefull this deluded old rat toothed cunt will die of a heart attack before summer
>>66438136
Vardy is a fucking meme, you clognonce.
>>66438926
still not fit after 2 months of games, not played well really, but scored anyways
>>66438382
Retards believe this
>>66439005
Rooney or hodgson?
>>66438926
He's the best natural goalscorer we have, but he doesn't offer as much as Vardy or Kane as a target man or recovering possession. Also almost guaranteed to get injured at some point.
>>66439033
A meme that did more against Germany in 15 minutes than Rppmey did his whole life.
>>66438687
>scousers
>>66439033
England needs the power of /sp/ meme magic.
>tfw England biggest obstacle is Pooney
>>66439108
You're wrong and a fucking moron.
>b-b-b-but he scored against le world champs in a friendly
>>66438899
i don't want his stats against full-time plumbers to be used as validation for his leading role in france, not to mention 4 out of 7 of those qualifying goals were from penalties.
wayne rooney could not score from open play against san marino (population 31,000) in either match.
>>66439215
Kane goals for England in 9 games
San Marino
Lithuania
Switzerland
Germany (friendly)
>>66439238
>9 games
How many did he start la?
>>66439122
what are you chatting about fanny?
>>66439259
The point is, you're discounting goals scored by one player because you have an agenda against him, yet ignore the fact that 75% of the goals scored by another are against the same sort of teams.
>>66439146
You must be using a VPN cus no self respecting English-man would chat in such a manner.
>>66439238
>>66439259
>Kane goals for England in 9 games.
he only actually played 5 of the qualifiers, spending 233 minutes on the pitch/the equivalent of 1.9 full games.
3 goals in under 2 games isn't bad m8.
>>66439276
Not same person, i'm just curious to know.
Rooney's first England goal came after 6 games. And the time it took Rooney to score 4 for England it took him 13 games, and they were (Macedonia, Lichtenshstetstenstrein, Denmark, Iceland.)
Completely different periods, situations, game time, opposition really.
One thing is sure though right now here in current year, Harry Kane is a striker and a good one of that, Rooney has become so inconsistent and poor as a striker, he either plays in midfield or doesn't play for United.
>>66439361
Thanks la!
It would be criminal if Kane didn't start at the Euros, that's for sure.
It only comes down to 'fitting' Rooney in.
This will prbably be the team he plays with the starting 11, maybe some formation variation for the 4-3-3
Rooney left, Sterling right, Kane middle, Alli behind, Milner left Hendo right.
Wouldn't be the end of the world but it's definitely not winning the Euros.
>>66439361
He has 9 caps 4 goals. Those are the stats,
Other than Germany, in a friendly, he's scored against the same shit Rooney has.
Irrelevant, though both Kane and Rooney will be starting. Cry moar.
>>66439366
>comparing rooney's first games for england to kane's as this is somehow relevant
I bet you're from goal-legacy.
>>66439417
Swap Sterling for Wellbeck and I think that'll likely be it.
>>66439452
Just for comparison, if you want to compare Kane's 4 in 9 even though most were from the bench to Rooney's I can compare different time periods across said caps.
The facts speak for themselves though, Kane is a better goalscorer for Rooney domestically and internationally.
Is Rooney a better CAM than what we have at our disposal with Alli? No way fucking near.
Is Rooney a better LW than having Sterling there? or Vardy? No.
>>66439486
Again, you're completely missing the point as retards usually do.
Dismissing Rooney's goals because they're against "part time plumbers", then wanking over Kane despite scoring against THE SAME TEAMS, will be dismissed as nonsense.
No one mentioned Rooney's first England games years and years ago, only you when it became clear you're ignorant af.
Plus, there's the fact Rooney is England all time goal scorer and England's top goal scorer over the past two years.
>>66439542
If you play someone up front long enough he's going to score you goals.
Alan Shearer could do a decent job against San Marino.
>vardy
>left winger
It's banging square pegs in round holes under SGE time again!
anyone got the wayne rooney england career copypasta? with the grandad dying?
>>66439588
So are you saying Harry Kane is shit because he scored against San Marino?
>>66439417
>henderson - milner
>>66439588
>Alan Shearer could do a decent job against San Marino.
I don't even know what you're implying with this comment.
Rooney should never have been made captain in the first place.
>>66439625
'no'
I'm saying we should use Kane as the future, Rooney is our past. Kane will score the goals against the plumbers in the qualifing, and score goals when it matters and good ones of that.
>>66439417
>Henderson/Milner double pivot
Just kill me now
>>66439650
But Kane will be starting, what are you struggling to understand here?
>>66439466
Can't see Roy being that dumb, besides Vardy should be starting if it is a 4-3-3
>>66439635
>>66439654
Here is our actual problem. Not the defensive frailties (which are of course a problem,) but the men sent to protect them. I'm hoping Danny Drinkwater puts in a good display against Holland, Roy makes this big deal about debutants and new players "transferring their good performances domestically to international level," when passenger midfield shit like Henderson and Milner will get the nod ahead of Drinkwater and Dier.
>tfw 10 years from now after Harry Kane has scored 50 goals for England everyone on /sp/ will be calling him useless and saying we should drop him for some kid who is currently in primary school right now
>>66439682
Vardy won't be starting, he'll be utilised as a sub, as too Sterling. Wellbeck will start.
>>66439699
There's no way Roy starts Wellbeck at the Euros, he can't be that stupid.
>>66439703
Well he's smarter than you, that's for sure
>>66439679
Who drops to the bench to alleviate Rooney then, and where do you fit him in.
>>66439703
He should play a front 2 of welbeck and vardy
>>66439711
>Rating Wellbeck
>>66352466
>>66439730
>Rating Sterling
>>>/trash/
>>66439730
nah I reckon the people who rate welbeck are manure fans, arsenal fans must have realised from watching him how bad he really is
what do you think lads?
Don't know why people are worried about Rooney playing, there is a chance still that Walcott could be in the starting line up at the Euros
Let's hope the bald cunt gets injured
>>66439765
How does this work on your vidya games?
>>66439741
I don't rate Sterling, he's mediocre most of the time. But I would still have him over Wellbeck.
I rate Vardy.
>>66439769
>walcott
>any year
NOPE
>>66439769
Wilshere is the scarier thought
>>66439703
>Can't be that stupid
He's starting Rppmey lad. He's either insane or being cucked by the FA and sponsors
>>66439785
>implying we have loads of great right wingers
There isn't much to choose from, I mean, who've you got? Townsend? Welbeck? You could play Lallana or Barkley wide but they'd be less effective.
It's a position where we're not blessed with many options.
>>66439821
Wilshere would be the first name on the team sheet if he was fit.
Barkley is fucking shit how on earth do so many of you put him in the team
Let him be 2nd choice AM behind Alli, no starting though.
>>66439842
Or just not falling for memes spouted by half-wits on a Hong Kongese cake decorating board who know absolutely nothing about football outside of the latest FIFA vidya.
>>66439765
This is literally how they should line up. IF you need ot rotate you move the two CMs up and out to become wingers and put in Sterling or whatever other memes and turn the DM into a CM.
Play the exact same team that made the great comeback against Germany. It's that simple.
>>66439860
>Literally anyone who knows football can see Rooney is a liability
The only way to fit Rooney in is to change the team about to accommodate him. Rooney is not a good enough player to warrant that.
>>66439869
>lallana
>All these people unironically heralding Milner as a starting England team footballer
This should be the team if everyone is fit. If Wilshere isn't fit than replace him with Barkley, Henderson or Sterling.
>>66439925
There's not much better tbqhwyf( to be quite honest with you familia)
>>66439877
i think he means with the subs starting
>>66439929
Literally no width
>>66439931
apart from (everyone)
>>66439929
drop Clyne for Walker
Wilshere then Milner then Henderson
>>66439873
>The only way to fit Rooney in is to change the team about to accommodate him.
I agree with this. You either play him out wide, sacrificing players with great pace, or put him behind the striker sacrificing Ali.
But theres a problem with dropping Rooney. Record scorer, captain of the team. If you are the manager and you drop him now, if it doesn't work you can guarantee you will be sacked, lambasted and hounded by press and mocked until your dying day.
IMO on current form, Rooney is on the bench. Dropping him from the squad entirely is a major knee jerk reaction.
>>66439940
our width isnt good enough to start
>>66439940
Except for Clyne and Rose who were great at providing attacking width against Germany. Wilshere/Barkley/Sterling can run wide with the ball as can the strikers.
>>66439940
thats what full backs are for, similar to how Spurs pkay
>>66439953
I don't think anyone is calling for him to be compeltely dropped from the squad, everyone means for the starting XI
>442 diamond
It's like the 90s again.
>>66439929
i'd be happy with that
>>66439940
The last 3 world champions didn't play with wingers.
Zambrotta/Grosso
Alba/Arbeloa
Lahm/Howedes
Rose/Clyne/Walker
Full backs are the new wingers and your midfield is full of players who are comfortable on the ball will a balance of attacking (Barkley/Alli) and defensive (Dier/Drinkwater) minded players.
It's ok, lads. I've got this.
-------------------Hart
Clyne--Smalling--Cahill--Rose
--Drinkwater---Dier---Barkley
--------------------Alli
------------Vardy-----Kane
Is Rooney the English Casillas?
>all these tactics
>they won't make it to the quarter-finals
>>66440010
No. Rooney is a striker and casillas is a goalkeeper
>>66439996
This with Walker instead of Clyne
>>66439994
That's an interesting point, Antonio. But, I put it to you, these teams played with attacking full backs because they had no decent wingers. Their midfield was also good enough to not give the ball away when said attacking full backs are marauding down the touch line.
I don't think you can apply the same logic to the England team.
Most sensible, mature England fans know we won't win the Euros, but they're getting their excuses in early, it's Woy Hodgson's fault for not picking my team, it's Rooney's fault, it's le black wing nig's fault.
It's never that there are better teams than us, or that we have a shockingly shit defence, or a goalkeeper full of his own self-importance and believes himself to be world class.
>>66440050
I'm a Spurs fan but still think Clyne is more secure defensively. Walker has been great this season but only because he's got the security of Alderweireld beside him, meaning he can do what he does best which is attacking.
Walker obviously doesn't have that security of Alderweireld for England
>>66440052
It's not a "shockingly shit" defence. Cahill and Smalling have shown at times that they are good defenders, and our full backs are good at attacking at least.
Which teams have far better defences than us then? Pretty sure Germany don't. Spain, France do maybe.
>>66439996
This is good
>>66440052
Compare your defense with other European country.
>Spain
Ramos is incredibly overrated as a defender, he's a leader and inspires his teammates but behind he commits more mistakes than any other so called world class defenders.
Pique is simply mediocre, great with the ball but that's pretty much all.
>France
Varane never progress. He's still the same player he was at Lens.
Sakho is pretty bad.
Mathieu is ridiculously bad at Barcelona.
Koscielny is only good for Arsenal and he constantly choke for France.
Etc
>>66440169
No, I'm calling our defence for what it is.
Shit.
>>66440201
The same applies for France, Germany, Spain, etc
So you basically don't give a shit.
>>66440169
Are you telling me we could possibly beat you in the opening match?
>>66438401
Left back in the changing rooms.
>>66440332
Yes of course.
One fuck up from Varane/Kos/Sagna and you're good.
>>66439687
>mfw Harry Kane scores 4 goals this euros then does fuck all for 12 years
>>66440305
I don't give a shit about some froggy faggot with a strawman blabbering on about the defence of other teams.
Ours is shit.
And I'd take Hummels, Kos, Bonucci, Varane, Pique, Boateng, Alderweireld, Chiellini, Barzagli, Kompany, Vertonghen over Smalling and that window-licker Cahill any day of the week.
>>66440362
Why was I under the impression that you're hot shit?
> All these deluded cunts thinking that Alli should start for the sole reason of being >le young black footballer.
Catch a grip lads, even Leo fucking Messi wasn't a starter for Argentina at 19 years old.
It'll be Kane and Vardy up front, with Rooney in behind- every game England play will have at least 6 goals scored for either team.
>>66441670
We won't be starting with two up top.
Fucking thick bastard.
I would put Forster in goal. He's always solid and is a fucking giant