You get them as an 18 year old for your British club and he'll sign for 10 years.
>English players
no thanks
>>66305309
...giggs
>>66305309
>Scholes
>Beckham
>Gerrard
>Lampard
>>66305309
Scholes.
Any day.
>>66305309
Lampard was world class.
Much better than players like pass sideways and flop for real madrid man
of those 4 Beckham, but as >>66305386 said the answer is Giggs
>>66305309
Scholes, no doubt
Lampard definitely. You could expect 20+ a season(for like,what? 15 seasons?) with him, and that's from a fucking midfielder
Scholes OBVIOUSLY.
Literally everyone who has played with him or against him says hes the GOAT.
The other 3 arent on his level.
Scholes by a long shot.
Would takes Scholes over Neymar, Suarez, Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Henry, Fat Ronaldo and C. Ronaldo.
Then probably Gerrard.
Beckham
Lampard last of all.
>>66305414
To be fair they were all world class
>English players
no thanks
>>66305500
>scholes over the best midfielder ever iniesta.
The rest I genuinely agree with
>>66305309
Lampard > Gerrard >= Scholes >>>>> Beckham but Giggs was better
>>66305500
>Would takes Scholes over;
>Neymar
Yes
>Suarez
Yes
>Xavi
Yes
>Iniesta
No
>Zidane
No
>Henry
No
>Fat Ronaldo
Yes
>C. Ronaldo
No
>le hang around the box and wait for a tap in man
>le occasional blooter but ultimately leads to nothing man
>le concentrate on marketing and once in awhile contribute a corner or freekick man
>le muh technique man
probly take Beckham and buy someone else from the shirt sales
>>66305550
Lampard is obviously the best player
Stevie G had his moments but declined pretty hard towards the end
David Beckham gets you lots of money in shirt sales and marketing opportunities
Scholes gets you absolutely nothing
Beckham
Scholes
Lampard
POWER GAP
Gerrard
>>66305601
>le i have no fucking clue what im talking about man
>>66305661
>Scholes gets you absolutely nothing
Yes he was played for years by one of the GOAT managers just for bants right m8?
>>66305550
>i rank iniesta
>>66305661
>Scholes gets you absolutely nothing
Except trophies every year for 20 years.
>>66305309
Gerrard, best out of the four in his prime.
Lampard or scholes, I will never rate Gerrard or Beckham.
>>66305849
Nope.
Scholes' peak was higher and Scholes was more consistent over his career.
Lampard > Beckham > Scholes >>>>>>> Gerrard
Very hard to compare players with different roles though, hard to fit Beckham in
prime Gerrard in an actual good team would have raped
>>66306032
>Scholes peaked in 2009
>>66306032
>world class is a fixed level and isn't based on how well Scholes is playing at that particular time
casual
>>66306032
Well that MS Paint graph settles everything.
Whilst Gerrard was a superb player he was also, always, a tactical liability.
When on top form he looked like he covered every blade of grass, roy of the rovers style, yet so often he was just a headless chicken creating space for the opposition in midfield.
Scholes was not only the best technical player of all the above but was tactically astute.
>>66305309
Overpriced 18 year old. Yea i rather not. I rather get a 18 from brazil,france,germany or spain.
>le horror tackle every game midget
>>66305309
Beckham. As an Arsenal-fan, all of them would leave anyway with the club eager to sell, so might as well take the one who is so marketable, he'd generate the most cash.
seriously now, lampard
>>66306164
Thats why he was at his best when behind the striker. He was GOAT there
rooney la
>>66305309
Not that anyone on this board will admit it, but Gerrard was world class between 2004-2009. He carried that Liverpool team through a lot and was one of the most well rounded players I've ever seen.
Gerrard > Lampard > Scholes >>> Beckham
>>66306141
08/11 period yeah, that was the most complete Scholes who had everything to his game and still had his fitness, a true master
>>66306164
I'm a United fan and usually the last person to compliment Liverpool or Gerrard but I think a lot of Gerrards mistakes were down to poor management. For 5 or 6 years under Benitez for example, he was world class.
Still a prick though.
Not even going to dignify including Scholes in this comparison, so I'm just going to pick another English midfielder from the same generation: Carrick.
Now then
Gerrard >/= Carrick > Lampard > Beckham
>>66306309
All of these players were world class. It's not really a leap to say that Gerrard was.
He was a snidey, bitter, cheating, diving, cheating fuck but he was still a world class footballer.
So was Darren Fletcher though, only he was a gentleman and a model pro.
Patrician choice.
1. Becks
2. Paul 'Famous other players have been quoted saying I am good even though it's hard to pinpoint moments when I actually showed how great I was' Scholes
3. Penpard
90000001. Slippy G
Isn't Lampard the GOAT english player..?
>>66306557
No. GOAT Chelsea player maybe.
>he doesnt get loads of goals or assists so he must be shit
Scholes, anyone would say Scholes. Any fan that isn't a retard would say Scholes.
He's the most complete player, and was the best midfielder England had, and left England because of the cancerous personality plague that's still there.
A part of me thinks Danny Drinkwater will just walk away from the England set up before it's even chewed him out because of how the media act around the players, and how the players are all fancy stat padding fucks. Players that dislike the public eye, dislike the media; they're often the most vocal on the pitch, as Danny's hero, Scholes was truly a great player and one that deserved so much more from the fans, Drinkwater being of the Scholes mould probably deserves more credit.
Beckham > Gerrard > Lampard > Scholes
>>66306032
can we all stop for a moment and look at this incredible scientific, factual and completely objective graph
What's up with the Scholes was a complete player meme?. He couldn't even defend, every time he tackled he timed it so horribly he was constantly red carded. And let's not even get into ball skills.
Stop talking shit.
>>66306618
I will never for the life of me understand why Scholes was played on the left wing for England
>>66306615
>b-but look at his sideway passes and movement, he is GOAT, I swear!
>>66306682
Idiocy, as simple as that.
Coaching and management should have highlighted Scholes as the complete and elite midfield in the England team, he is the only England player from the late 90s - early 00s that would be considered world class.
Team should have been built around him.
>>66306804
It's the English mentality, technique and finesse is overlooked for players who can run about and get stuck in
>>66306804
Yep
Scholes should have been paired with a plastic training cone in the centre of midfield if that's what it took for him to play to his potential.
Lampard and Gerrard should've been dropped.
>mfw Beckham is pictured but is nowhere near the level of the other 3
>>66306705
>Belarus
kill yourself
>>66305309
Rashford
>>66306682
He was played in the centre in World Cup 98, World Cup 02 and Euro 00. He was shit and we achieved nothing.
>>66306876
u wot? Beckham was among the worlds elite in his prime
>>66306876
at his Peak he was great, less complete than the others but excelled in certain aspects
is scholesy the greatest sportsman of all time? imo yes
>>66306365
>So was Darren Fletcher though,
Fucking United fans I swear
>>66305309
Becks.
Sell him 5 year in and be mid table 10 years later. Its just good biness innit
>>66306876
Becks is the only one who played with heart and was genuinely clutch
>>66306906
Don't bring things like facts to an argument about Paul Scholes.
Generally the most "overrated" player that isn't Brazilian. Not in the 4chan sense of the word, the real one. A very capable and good footballer but for some reason hailed as a genius when he was simply a good player at a good football club. Reliable, sensible (not a serial drunk or criminal like most England midfielders) and by all accounts quite a nice man but nowhere near the best ever.
>>66306983
Fletcher 09-12 was World class and better than Gerrard. He dominated and destroyed every midfield he went up against in England and in Europe.
Go fuck yourself.
>>66307058
Reminder gerrard scored in every cup final at least once
Can I have Paul Gascoigne without a drink/drug problem instead?
>>66307075
Kek
>>66307062
The thing is, I don't even know where this >le scholes was wasted on the wing meme came from. He was played there in just one tournament (Euro 2004) and there are people acting like we'd have dominated world football if we had put him in the centre
>>66307113
It came from butthurt Utd fans who don't want to accept he was overrated and couldn't get on at centre midfield and got replaced by veron by fergie
>>66305550
>C.Ronaldo
>Yes
>Fat Ronaldo
>Yes
Oh my God you brits are bantsmasters
>>66307176
>replaced by veron
kill yourself
>>66307261
>literally no argument
>>66307294
He wasnt replaced by Veron though. So your point was wrong.
>>66307237
Literally everyone in the world has been calling him Fat Ronaldo for the last decade
>>66307302
Yes he was, do you think he as bought to play instead of Keane or something
>>66307360
>what is squad depth
beckham
>>66307407
>record signing was for squad depth
kek
KEK
K E K
>>66307443
Having three world class midfielders to rotate during lengthy seasons makes perfect sense
If it's for that long then it's Scholes
>>66306906
I like how no one addressed this point
>>66307351
The problem is that he thinks Penaldonis better than Fatnaldo
>>66306032
>you will never be this autistic
>>66307520
But they were the best tournaments we've played in recent memory
We were refballed against Argentina in 98, tricked by Samba magic in '02
>>66307534
He is.
Reasonable people all think this, everyone just memes about Cristiano as if this somehow discredits his ability.
>>66305309
>All these people picking Beckham
Are we talking football skills or looks?
I liked Beckham a lot as a kid but he really is mildly overrated.
Beckham obviously had great free kicks and good crosses but both Scholes, Lampard and Gerrad were better players over all desu.
Anyone not picking Scholes is a fool. Just look at how many times he won the PL.
>>66305309
Scholes
Lampard
Gerrard
Beckham
>>66306879
Not needed, his government will do that
>>66307624
>le obligatory Scholes-quotes
I agree though
>>66307534
stop living in the past, there's no reason y donaldo isn't better than fatnaldo
>>66306804
>>66306682
The England team was and still is to an extent, composed of the players the media say is undroppable. Its why Gerrard and Lampard were constantly played together. Its why at the Euros this year Kane, Butland/Forster, Dier, Alli, Drinkwater, Sturridge and Vardy will be played out of position, benched or left at home to accommodate Rooney, Henderson, Delph and Welbeck. England need a manager with the balls to drop underachieving big names.
>>66307075
hahaha
>this is what united fans actually believe
Slippy easily, my team don't get enough penalties for frank to actually contribute
>>66305309
Lampard.
>>66305500
>>66305550
british delusion holy shit
>>66311277
Sup WG
>>66307796
>>66307590
>This is the kind of """"people"""" you """discuss"""" sports with
Holy fucking shit how far we done fell
>>66305500
>Would takes Scholes over Neymar, Suarez, Xavi, Iniesta, Zidane, Henry, Fat Ronaldo and C. Ronaldo.
>Anon, /sp/
And that's how the Scholes legend was born
>>66311326
lol cuck
>>66305795
I would love a large print of that
>>66311350
I'm black and i have a white gf
>>66305309
Scholes' passes across the whole field feels like he is cheating the game lol
>>66311526
>KEK
>U
>C
>K
>>66305508
Guess it depends what you're definition of world class is.
>>66305476
>and that's from a fucking midfielder
kek. Lampard was operating pretty much as a second striker.
>>66305601
Probably the only time I've seen an Amerifat comment on football and post sense.
Well done, DaShawn
>>66305476
>You could expect 20+ a season(for like,what? 15 seasons?)
He only scored 20+ goals a season 5 times in his career (all competitions, if you mean league then just once)
>>66305309
becks or scholes doesn't matter who
I don't want losers in my team
>>66306341
here's your (you) you were desesperately begging for
>>66305309
1. Scholes - highly rated by pretty much every world class player
2. Lampard - Most underrated of the 4. His goal scoring potential is just huge.
3. Gerrard - A less effective Lampard.
4. Becks - Bit of a luxury player imo.
Scholes. Made up with lack of finesse with extreme aggression and 100% commitment in everything he did.
Even as a pundit you can see he just wants to get back on the field for Utd and get stuck in. If they let him in the dressing room i'm sure the mediocre wankers at united now including the manager would all have black eyes within a couple of minutes.
>>66305497
They're all different players
Lampard - Best scorer
Gerrard - The leader
Beckham - Precision from dead ball situations
Scholes - Precision passing and vision
>>66308266
BOOM
Golden generation my arse. We weren't even bronze with that bunch of no-hope fucktards.
Lampard "Muh goal once in a blue moon and nowt else"
Gerrard "Mebbe if I keep hitting em from 50 yards one will go in"
Beckham "Give me half an hour and I might manage to run the length of the pitch"
or
Scholes "Good passer but sent off every other game"
Fuck them. Fuck "only scores penalties against nobodies" Rooney. Light in the loafers Welbeck and Walcott.
Pick on form. Win Euros. Job done.
>>66305309
Beckham so we can sell him on at his peak and fund a whole new squad
>>66305309
The blue one
>>66305309
Scholes by far
>>66321942
lampard literally was a goal machine you dumb cunt
>that flag
>that opinion
baka
>>66306906
england were very good in world cup 02 though tbf, England were the only team who even posed a threat to Bra7i1 and it were even unlucky to lose it.`
>>66308266
>i want a team of inexperienced meme players
>>66322135
Stop posting shit, you thick bastard.
>>66322183
And what have the experienced players done? EASY & 1 point
I don't see what you're trying to prove.
>>66322135
Brazil played with 10 men for 30 minutes, England was lucky to not be trashed.
>>66322345
Well they qualified with a 100% record in the qualifying group.
Why would Roy dismantle a squad he's putting together just to appease some utterly clueless fuckwits on the internet who think they're experts because they play Football Manager?
>>66322397
We qualified for the 2010 World Cup with 9/10 wins in a much tougher group and look where that got us
>>66322428
So Capello should have dismantled the team he put together that done so well in qualification because he could foresee England's performance in SA not being as good as expected?
You're a fucking retard.
Lampard. All the others are literal meme players.
>>66322447
>trying to reason with a literal retard
>>66322472
There is no reason. You're an utter spastic.
>hurr durr england dindu nuffin in wc2010 so woy should play leicester and spurs memes cos they dun gud 4 1 season hurr durr
Steven Gerrard.
Frank Lampard
Scholes
Beckham
>>66322493
alright, let's keep playing Welbeck, Pooney and Milner because that worked out so well for us in recent tournaments
>>66306032
Well, I can't argue with the science
>>66322512
alright, lets play memesters who have had a one good season at club level because surely they can take that form into international level playing a different system with different players
>>66322670
>because surely they can take that form into international level playing a different system with different players
Maybe they can, maybe they can't. We don't know that. What we do know is that shitters like Rooney underperformed at every tournament they played in
Beckham because I can sell him for good money
>>66305309
sup niggerfaggot
>>66306032
I love everything about this post
>>66306032
Shit, can't argue with a graph you must be right
>>66322191
fuck off you shit muncher
>>66322379
lol so that's why england took the lead?
that's why bra7i1 needed a lucky goal?
>>66306032
I think this is the best thing I ever saw on spee
>>66326711
Neck yerself.
>>66305550
>He would take Scholes over Suarez and Ronaldo 9
>>66306032
Legitimate post.
>>66305309
Gerrard obviously.
The other 3 played in teams that dominated. Gerrard carried Liverpool by himself.
>>66306032
I felt the need to archive this post. I don't know why, maybe I'm autistic but it struck a chord with me
Beckham is the only one who gave a fuck and played well for England. Dude is a fucking legend.
>>66331498
>Beckham is the only one who gave a fuck and played well for England.
Kek. He was fucking abysmal for England. The bloke had a habit of completely disappearing in the tournament finals you fucking faggot.
You must be from Surrey or Essex cos no one thinks he's a legend other than Man U fans.
Probably Fatman. But it'd depend on the makeup of my team.
If it's already superbly talented but lacking in chance creation and set piece production, Beckham.
Shitty midfield with a productive pairing up front? Scholes.
Does anyone on my team know CPR? Gerrard.
Scholes > Lampard > Beckham > Gerrard
>>66333645
knobhead
Lampard
le made up quotes man
slippy g
beckham
>>66305309
Lampard.
>>66307075
Fletcher was quality but he wasn't exactly world class. He was good in a good team under a great mananger
>>66305360
based germany tells how it is
>>66305550
This
>>66306624
R A R E
A
R
E
>>66341353
>this flag
>this topic
>>66306032
Can't fight against facts.
Real choice
>>66305309
Frank Lampard for me. Dude scored bare goals blud
>>66305795
If I was high this would freak me the fuck out
>>66343045
gazza was overrated
