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-Suarez is the best striker in history. Try to pick another striker better than him when it comes to dribbling skills, short pass, work rate, overall speed, acceleration, long shots, shooting power, ball control, positioning, vision… (Protip: You can’t)
-David Villa is second right after Suarez and better than Henry, Totti, Drogba, Fatnaldo, Eto’o n shit
-Casillas has been shit since day one
-Liga and Bundesliga teams are currently better than Premier League teams
-Thiago Silva is currently the best defender in the world
-World Cup 2014 was the shittiest WC of the 21st century (>Muh 7-1 >Muh 5-1 >Muh Missi)
-Busquets is the best DM in history (Try to prove me wrong, protip you can’t)
-Falcao and Torres have always been overrated even in their primes. They were shit to begin with. Pick 20 strikers better than them in their primes (21st century), protip that’s quite easy
-Deco was total shit and overrated as fuck
-Michael Owen is a poor mans Fred at best, never deserved a Ballon d'Or
France is white
>>66241812
You don't get it eh?
you are beyond fucking crazy if you think rat king is better then the original r9. Pre-injury ronaldo was the best striker that ever played the game. Speed, dribling, explosion, it's hard to imagine people forgot about him.
>>66241791
>Henry, Totti, Drogba, Fatnaldo, Eto’o n shit
No those strikers carried teams on their back
Villa and Suarez cant do that
Even torres is better than villa he carried liverpool and spain in his prime
>Busquets is the best DM in history
Im actually ok with this. People will only start to truly rate him after he retires. Today he is just "le underrated DM", but people will eventually admit that he is the best that has ever played. There is none like him really.
Sergio Aguero
>>66241998
>Suarez cant do that
Suarez almost carried a team which finished 7th without him to a league win you dolt. All those other players had far better team mates throughout their peaks.
>>66241998
>Suarez cant do that
but he can, he can really win games on his own against the very best
>>66241998
>No those strikers carried teams on their back
Why do people always forget that he came within a slip of dragging a mid table team to the Premier League title and he won the Copa America with Uruguay as the best player of the tournament?
It's almost like you only started to pay attention after he moved to Barcelona
>>66241998
>Suarez can't do that
You mean getting Liverpool to the 2nd place in the Premier League with literally Sterlel, old Gerrard and the incredible Nathaniel Clyne ?
All those players you're talking about played in much better teams.
Seriously, if that goal against Arsenal didn't prove that this man is the best striker since R9, i don't know what will. Not to mention the pass for Neymar's goal
>>66242107
>Seriously, if that goal against Arsenal didn't prove that this man is the best striker since R9
Aubameyang is better
>>66241791
it's branaldo, and it always will be
>>66242107
or last season's demolition of city and psg, or his two assists vs bayern, his goal vs madrid, his goal vs atletico this season, his goals against everybody, etc.
>>66241791
>Suarez is the best striker in history.
Disagreed, but I consider him top 5 all time
>David Villa is second right after Suarez and better than Henry, Totti, Drogba, Fatnaldo, Eto’o n shit
Disagreed, he might be better than them as a pure finisher but as an overall player - not even close
>Casillas has been shit since day one
Not exactly shit but he has always been massively overrated
>Liga and Bundesliga teams are currently better than Premier League teams
That's correct and not at all unpopular
>Thiago Silva is currently the best defender in the world
In 2013, right now he's not even close
>World Cup 2014 was the shittiest WC of the 21st century
The rigged shitstain of a World Cup in 2002 was worse
>Busquets is the best DM in history
I agree, he's magnificent
>Falcao and Torres have always been overrated even in their primes
Agreed
>Michael Owen is a poor mans Fred at best, never deserved a Ballon d'Or
That's not unpopular, no one thinks he deserved that Ballon d'Or
How is Owen in any way comparable to Fred? They're nothing alike.
Dumb frogposter.
>>66241791
Suarez can't play simple passes.
>>66242130
You now remember Suarez scored a goal after nutmegging David Luiz.......twice......on the same match
Shevchenko
>>66242142
They're both shit.
>>66242116
>>66242140
Try to prove me wrong for Suarez though
>>66241791
>maybe
>hell no
>no
>yes
>maybe, he didn't defend so good against Costa
>implying 2010 wasn't shit and 2002 utter shit
>yes
>hell no
>no
>yes
You are also a cuck for not stating your opininon outright
4/10, biggest fuck-up was not rating prime Torres closely followed by Villa and shitting on Deco
>>66242142
>How is Owen in any way comparable to Fred?
They're both shit
>Lampard is the best English player ever
>Prime Ronaldinho is the best the world has ever seen
>Buffon is the best keeper in history
>Raul stopped scoring his he grow out his beard and hair
>Makelele was so fucking shit
>Luis Figo was shit in Real Madrid
>Beckham was shit at Real Madrid
>Seedorf was never ever good
>No good club is a low spender
>David Silva is the best player in Premier League
>Counter attack football is inherently a better tactic than tiki taka
>If you haven't scored after 10 passes and you aren't Barca, you should just give the opponent the ball
>>66241791
>i am 15 years old: the post
Marco van Basten
>>66241880
Unpopular opinions la
>>66242207
>Lampard is the best English player ever
I started watching football in the late 2000s : the post
>Prime Ronaldinho is the best the world has ever seen
Are you even trying ?
>Buffon is the best keeper in history
True
>Makelele was so fucking shit
True
>Luis Figo was shit in Real Madrid
True
>Beckham was shit at Real Madrid
He always was
>Seedorf was never ever good
True
>David Silva is the best player in Premier League
That's weak bait m8
>Counter attack football is inherently a better
tactic than tiki taka
True
>>66241791
>t. History began 10 years ago.
Suarez wouldn't even be in top 10 of best strikers in History.
>>66241791
Reminder that R9 single-handedly carried an Inter full of past-their-peak has beens (Baggio, Djorkaeff Zamorano), lazy cunts (Recoba) and absolutely no defense to a 2nd place finish as bad as Liverpool's 13/14, all of this during PRIME SERIE A.
You can make an argument that Suárez is the best striker in modern football but in no way he's better than R9. He's top 5 with Van Basten, Romário, Batistuta and of course, Ronaldo.
You are clearly underageb&.
>-David Villa is second right after Suarez and better than Henry, Totti, Drogba, Fatnaldo, Eto’o n shit
Ridiculous opinion, you must have started to watch football in 2010.
>-Casillas has been shit since day one
2000-2010 Casillas was a solid keeper with great reflexes. Overrated but not shit at all. You're just too much of a newfaggot casual to know this. Underageb&.
>-Liga and Bundesliga teams are currently better than Premier League teams
>-Thiago Silva is currently the best defender in the world
>-World Cup 2014 was the shittiest WC of the 21st century (>Muh 7-1 >Muh 5-1 >Muh Missi)
>-Busquets is the best DM in history (Try to prove me wrong, protip you can’t)
All obvious things. More news at 11, etc. Underageb&.
>>-Michael Owen is a poor mans Fred at best, never deserved a Ballon d'Or
Obvious that Owen never deserved it, but Lyon Fred and Owen were completely different strikers, you faggot underageb&.
>-Falcao and Torres have always been overrated even in their primes. They were shit to begin with. Pick 20 strikers better than them in their primes (21st century), protip that’s quite easy
>-Deco was total shit and overrated as fuck
Just completely wrong on all accounts, also underageb&.
>>66242203
>>66242173
>I don't know poor man's means
Cool.
Work on your English, boys.
>>66242140
this, tbqhwym8
I can't actually believe that I'm reading this from a bong
>>66242207
>Luis Figo was shit in Real Madrid
>>66242238
>True
He was literally the best offensive player of the Galacticos era, you underageb& faggots.
His ridiculous assist record wasn't broken until Messi came along.
He was a monster in 99-2003. WAY more consistent than Memedane too.
kys memelords
>>66241791
>hating on english players is an unpopular opinion
what have you been smoking jamal?
>>66242054
Sturridge's goals won more points for liverpool than suarez's and were on average against teams higher in the table, but yeah stat-padding against norwich makes you goat...
>>66243133
Are you actually trying to suggest that sturrshit is better than suarez?
>>66243133
>Sturridge is better than Suarez guys, I tell you
>>66243159
Not him, but no. Sturridge played a huge part. As did Sterling, and it was Gerrard's final season as a good player (before the slip of course). The reason they finished 7th the following season is because Lambert and Balotelli were their strikers.
Unpopular opinion
>PSG - Man City will be entertaining
>Real Madrid will lose to Wolfsburgh
-Rooney is the best striker in history. Try to pick another striker better than him when it comes to dribbling skills, short pass, work rate, overall speed, acceleration, long shots, shooting power, ball control, positioning, vision… (Protip: You can’t)
Thomas Muller and Zlatan Ibrahimovic are overrated shit
Kevin Prince Boateng and Andrey Arshavin are two of the most talented player ive ever seen who didn't become GOATS
>>66243308
And he will start with England in the Euro.
(protip: and you all know it)
The best striker in the world can score with long range shoots.
How many goals like this has he done?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRg2bQiv6xY
>>66241791
I don't think even Brits pretend Owen deserved that ballon d'or
>Rich owners pumping millions and millions into clubs is a good thing
>the allegiance to a certain club is a very arbitrary choice
>Anyone can play full back
>Brazil will never win WC again
>Real Madrid won't win CL for another 10 years
>Copa Mundial boots are highly overrated and overpriced
>Draw games that isn't a knock outround should go straight to penalty shootout
Swansea will get a top 4 spot next season.
>>66243364
pls no
>>66241998
> Torres > Villa
Wuuuuutttt
Villa is the best striker Spain has ever had (except for the original Luis Suarez)
>Try to pick another striker better than him when it comes to dribbling skills, short pass, work rate, overall speed, acceleration, long shots, shooting power, ball control, positioning, vision
Ronaldo easily. The only thing i'd give Suarez is work rate.
>>66243463
I remember it being greeted with a sense of confusion in england
>>66243655
Villa was better for longer, but 2008 Torres > Villa at any stage of his career.
Also OG Luis Suarez was a midfielder
>>66241791
>I started paying attention to footbal in 2011: The Post
- No, that was Ronaldo, and isn't even close. Top 5 of course, but not goat
- Very underrated yes, but nowhere near. Villa was at his best when he only had to worry about scoring, the other ones did great lots of things beside scoring (passing, pressing on deffenders, setting other players for scoring)
- He relied a lot on reflexes, when they went to shit, he went downhill. But was one of the best from 2002 to 2013
- That isn't unpopular, that's a fact
- Maybe two years or so ago, right now it's Godin
- 2002 was way worse, lots of refball everywhere
- It's either him or makelele
- >I didn't see them on his peak, so they were always shit
- See above
- Kahn got cucked hard that year
Atletico Madrid is overrated, Liverpool tier
Mahrez is better than Bale
>>66242207
- "There wasn't english player before mou went to chelsea"
- Yes and not
- Time will tell
- He was always shit
- You've got no idea of soccer
- See above
- See above
- See above
- Sevilla, Athletic, Leicester... Money doesn't solve all problems
- Top ten yes, top five maybe
- It's funny that you think this way and think that makelele was shit, you need a really good defensive mid to play counter attack. Also possesion football > all
- If you can get the ball after 10 passes of your rival, you don't deserve to get the ball
>mfw suarez isn't even a top 5 uruguayan striker
>>66243732
>Makelele
It's like you're not even trying, señor
>>66242207
>>Prime Ronaldinho is the best the world has ever seen
Literally fuck your own face you potato nigger.
>>66243351
Muller is underrated if anything
Lahm is overrated as fuck.
>people saying Suarez is a top 5 GOAT striker
Kek, this recency bias is getting ridiculous.
>>66244272
Name better ones in the past 30 years. You literally can't name more than 5, if any with the exception of R9 and maybe Van Basten.
>muh pre-70s football
No...just no
>>66244272
>people saying he's not a top 5 GOAT striker
Kek, this nostalgia bias is getting ridiculous
Ronaldo, van Basten, Henry, Suarez and Romario
Messi's golden ball in WC 2014 was totally deserved. Any other player was better than him, although Argentina played like shit.
>>66244338
>no Gerd Müller
Henry > Suarez
>>66244338
>No Gerd Müller
>>66244362
one of the GOATs of his era but >70s football
I thought Drogba was better at hold up play, free kicks, volleys, and in box airial ability, defense and offense. But i dont think drogba is a better over all player. He is to slow. Everyone else was a pace baby like Torres and Falcao, Eto'o & RVN was a great poacher. Obviously based ADP and Ronaldo never fucked your bitch
>>66244364
This meme will never end, will it?
>>66244338
>Romario
>Le lazy but deadly man
I'd take Suarez any day
>>66244394
he literally was in the early 2000s though
Atletico Madrid's playstyle is more disgusting than Chelsea 2012
Football fans are such hypocrites it's ridiculous
Michael Laudrup is the best player ever (or at least most talented ever)
>>66244463
>Atletico Madrid's playstyle is more disgusting than Chelsea 2012
No, Atletico are genuinely brilliant defensively and a joy to watch. Chelsea 2012 just put 10 men behind ball and relied on opposition to miss 5 sitters and a penalty every game.
>Football fans are such hypocrites it's ridiculous
True, like any people who are emotionally invested in something
>Michael Laudrup is the best player ever (or at least most talented ever)
No, but he is the best #10 of all time
>>66241791
>Deco was total shit and overrated as fuck
hahahaha. No.
>patrick vieira is the greatest box to box midfielder ever, and his talent was wasted at arsenal
>jari litmanen was the best player in the world for a moment
>makelele was fantastic
>paul pogba is going to be the best football player in the world in five years
>neymar will stop getting better and lose it when messi and suarez leave
>keylor navas has never been good, he is playing the season of a lifetime and he is still average
>bonucci is the best defender in the world
>>66245117
Pakinninnnnennnnennännnenkkannnannnnen, please leave
>>66245117
>neymar will stop getting better and lose it when messi and suarez leave
Well, Neymar still has 7 years of being a goat then , which is kinda cool
>>66245788
>and lose it when messi and suarez leave
It's almost like I'm implying that he will get worse.
>>66244463
>Atletico Madrid's playstyle is more disgusting than Chelsea 2012
lolno. There were times when Chelsea just hoofed the ball forward to no one. At least Atletico try to counter-attack.
You can really talk about goats if you are 30+ years old and have actually seen most games not just some fancy youtube compilations.
>>66246457
>seen most games
Oh Germoney.
/sp/ actually occasionally knows what theyre talking about, as opposed to being completely clueless
>>66242207
>Makelele was so fucking shit
>Luis Figo was shit in Real Madrid
Its posts like these that make me realize im a little to old to be talking to the 20 - 25 year olds on this website.
>Lampard is the best English player ever
>Prime Ronaldinho is the best the world has ever seen
Go back to unclogging toilets please.
>Seedorf was never ever good
No one ever rated him as a GOAT. He was the kind of the player that was consistently exceptional but not quite elite, and this was enough to land him in not one, but 4 separate CL favorite squads over his career.
>>66243289
I hope you right mescalbro.
>>66243351
Muller pulls a long of the strings in games. He's a genius if not a savant.
If Messi did not exist in this era, Suarez would be blatantly the best player alive. His biting and bad temper have gotten him so much hate over the years, but he is unbelievably talented even without the ball at his feet.
Romario and originaldo are the best strikers ever
I think Suarez actually had a bad game vs Arsenal. Aside from the goal obviously. He was fucking up a bunch of other great chances all game.
>>66243351
>Müller
>Overrated
No. Underrated if anything.
>>66241791
American-tier post. Stopped reading after 6.86 sec. Sage.
>>66247810
Thomas Muller is shit! He has the first touch of a womens footballer and the passing ability of Chicharito, he just makes a few good runs and lucks out literally Harry Kane tier.. So many technically better German Wingers i seen over the years
>>66243159
no just that that liverpool team was a fucking good team going forwards and the reason they did so shit the next year was not just cos of suarez leaving but also cos sturridge was injured, suarez didn't drag a mid-table team into a title challenge, he took a side that would of finished top four without him - gerrard was brilliant that year, as was coutinho (this was before he became score a blooter every ten games man), sterling, sturridge, fucking joe allen and jordan henderson played quality that season etc.
Also just pointing out that, whilst suarez is obvs the better player, sturridge was often more decisive, the fact he scored 21 goals in 29 games (with quite a few of those games being sub appearances cos of coming back from injuries) without netting a single hatrick demonstrates how fucking consistent he was in 13/14.
>>66241791
>-David Villa is second right after Suarez and better than Henry, Totti, Drogba, Fatnaldo, Eto’o n shit
What the hell?
>Pirlo has been overrated since he grew a beard.
Before his beard, nobody talked about him. Despite the fact that he is a good player. Still, he is overrated.
>Jamie Carragher was a good CB
I thought he was crap
>>66242099
Great selective memory but Liverpool won a bigger percentage with just Sturridge.
Also Sturridge scored against bigger teams and his goals won Liverpool more points.
>>66249710
>Great selective memory but Liverpool won a bigger percentage with just Sturridge.
13/14 Liverpool with just Sturridge - 3W 1D 1L - 2,0 points per game
13/14 Liverpool with Suarez - 23W 5D 5L - 2,24 points per game
now piss off, Suarez was the top scorer of the league, the 2nd top assister of the league and won the most penalties in the league
>Sturridge scored against bigger teams
Oh yeah, that 1 goal in a 5-1 trashing vs Arsenal sure carried them to the title. That entire team is mid table garbage without Suarez.
Rooney is unironically the best striker Manchester United and England have ever had.
>>66241791
>World Cup 2014 was the shittiest WC of the 21st century
It was far and away the best thanks to actually having goals and entertaining games and not being completely fixed
>Suarez best striker in history
Depends on what your standard of that is, he's certainly one of the best runs, hasn't accumulated a career worthy of being close to best ever
>David Villa is second right after Suarez
Stupid
>Casillas has been shit since day one
Even more stupid, this is another opinion that /sp/ loves to regurgitate for some reason because Mourinho didn't like Casillas or something dumb like that
>Thiago Silva is currently the best defender in the world
That mantle changes about every other month, defenders are incredibly inconsistent or injured over the past few years
>World Cup 2014 was the shittiest WC of the 21st century
2002
>Falcao and Torres have always been overrated even in their primes
Not at all
>Deco was total shit
Stupid
>Michael Owen is a poor mans Fred at best
Stupid, didn't deserve the award though
Suarez isn't better than prime R9. Heck, R9 at times even in Real shined better than Suarez (Old Trafford hattrick for example).
Today I will remind you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B--iCCQhbR0
his first game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXsg5Xsg3C4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB8Hf9K0yDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtaTmYboaFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE774yQX6uQ
>>66242207
>>Makelele was so fucking shit
bait so obvious this whole thread should be made illegal
>>66242104
This even furthers your point, but Clyne didnt come in until this season. They still had the fearsome Glen Johnson during that 13/14 season
>>66241791
>-Suarez is the best striker in history.
Brazilian Ronaldo.
>-David Villa is second right after Suarez and better than Henry, Totti, Drogba, Fatnaldo, Eto’o n shit
Is this bait? Villa? Totti? Come the fuck on. Also, football existed before the 21st century.
>-Casillas has been shit since day one
He was good for many years. Maybe overrated, but not "shit" by any stretch of the imagination.
>-Liga and Bundesliga teams are currently better than Premier League teams
The top teams, sure. But mid-table and below, PL is stronger.
>-Thiago Silva is currently the best defender in the world
Would be easier to agree if he was in a team which actually ever has to defend.
>-World Cup 2014 was the shittiest WC of the 21st century
The group stage was great, loads of goals. What do you mean "muh 7-1/5-1"? Those were legitimately amazing football matches. WC 2010 was by far the worst of the 21st century.
>-Busquets is the best DM in history
Claude Makelele. How a frog like yourself doesn't recognise this is beyond me.
>-Falcao and Torres have always been overrated even in their primes. They were shit to begin with.
Horrendous bait.
>-Deco was total shit and overrated as fuck
Deco was a class midfielder, did you only watch him at Chelsea or something?
>-Michael Owen is a poor mans Fred at best, never deserved a Ballon d'Or
Owen was a very good striker pre-injuries. 2001 FA Cup Final, Argentina goal in '98... can you honestly imagine Fred doing that shit?
Arsene Wenger is genuinely one of the best managers of the past 20 years.
>>66252903
>best
most consistent*
I rate zidane
>>66252943
It's strange. He went from consistently delivering trophies in the first 10 years of his tenure to consistently delivering failure in the rest of his period.
>>66252970
Well it didn't help that the invincibles pretty much all declined at the same time, it was an impossible task to replace them all. Also having to sell their star player every summer to pay off the stadium.
>>66241791
>Suarez is the best striker in history
Ibra (maybe not as clutch but even more complete), Fatnaldo and Pele were all better
His real peak was at Liverpool (last season), and that was the only time he should've been a Ballon D'Or contender.
>David Villa
Not even gonna explain
>Casillas has been shit since day one
I don't know if shit, but definitely not close to the level he's supposed to be
>Liga and Bundesliga teams are currently better than Premier League
Not unpopular
>Thiago Silva is currently the best defender in the world
Godin is better
>World Cup 2014 was the shittiest WC of the 21st century (>Muh 7-1 >Muh 5-1 >Muh Missi)
opinions desu
>Busquets is the best DM in history (Try to prove me wrong, protip you can’t)
Good player and an above average tackler, also has good defensive positioning, nothing more
Xabi
Makalele
Diarra
Gattuso
I do agree that no one can fill his spot at Barca
>Falcao and Torres have always been overrated even in their primes
Yes
>Michael Owen is a poor mans Fred at best, never deserved a Ballon d'Or
No, yes
>I'm a 15 years old Barca fan who recently really got into football and think I know better than everyone else : The Post
The thing i find most incredible about Ronaldo is the fact he'd suffered 3 serious knee injuries at just 23 years old. Look what happened to the likes of Owen, Kaka, Torres, Falcao etc. when they did their knee, they were instantly finished as top level players. Ronaldo meanwhile comes back after 2 years out and wins the WC, WC golden boot, Ballon d'Or and scores 30+ in his comeback season.
>>66253179
>I literally got baited into replying point for point: The Post: The Jew
>Luis Suarez
Literally a rich man's Roy Makaay.
>>66242104
>clyne
Autists who dont know what theyre talking about
Had Suarez kept his ass in England that nonsense couldn't possibly take place in your mind.
The team he plays in and who he plays with made your mind.
>David Villa
>better than Henry and Eto'o
>better than fucking Ronaldo
this is not unpopular, this is just plain wrong.
I don't understand why people hate on bandwagoning.
There's nothing wrong with following and supporting a team purely because you're fond of their playing style. It doesn't have to be some long held tradition
The best striker in histroy is Miroslav Klose
Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi are the best players in history. the way they dominate modern football for such a long time will be remembered forever.
Yuros are incredibly fickle and irrational when it comes to this sport- the biggest frontrunners in the world. It's all hyperbole. They make it impossible to enjoy.
They are consistently of the opinion that if you are not in the top 1% of everyone, then you are shit. Unless you win the league every year and are the greatest in history, you are "shit."
Take OP for example. Torres in his prime, Iker Casillas and Deco might not have been the absolute greatest, but they were pretty good. Certainly not shit. They were still better than a vast majority of all players.
>>66242207
says Makelele, Figo at RM, Seedorf were no good. this is incorrect. you can argue the were overrated, but saying they're bad players is just plain wrong
>>66241791
prime villa was easily the best striker in the world, he literally won the world cup alone when spain was ready to go home
I agree with falcao being overrated (shit with river desu) but torres was impressive with liverpool back then
busquets looks good because being DM in barcelona is the easiest position in the world, you only have pass sideways and dive
>>66254511
>he literally won the world cup alone
"he literally won x alone" has got to be one of the dumbest sports related phrases
>busquets looks good because being DM in barcelona is the easiest position in the world
oh, ok. I didn't realise you're retarded
>>66254048
Following a club and enjoying their success, pointing out problems with the club and joining discussions? Sure no problems here.
Claiming you are a supporter of the club and demanding change (wenger out for example,) wearing team shirts and trying to start arguements with rival clubs for no reason other than (oh "we" hate them right?) Fuck off.
The reason why most people are so hostile to bandwagoners is that alot of football clubs are tied to cities and communities which foriegners will never understand the history behind or be part of. The same also applies to bandwagoners here by the way who are even made worse by their shite excuses ("Oh my Dad worked in London once so that means I support Chelsea!")
>>66241998
Villa in Valencia was legit with Mata and Silva
- Dimitri payet is the best midfielder in the Prem atm
- West ham will be challenging for a top 3 spot next season
- Reece Oxford will become England's goat midfielder
>>66254630
>Getting this bootyheated about bandwagoners
You're probably just really sour grape about the fact that your shite club (probably West Brom) has no bandwagoners. I can say this with authority as someone whos been a lifelong BVB Borussia fan since 2011.
>>66249312
I was in Spain during the 2012 Euros
No joke everyone was talking about Pirlo more than their national team
It was tournament that overrated him but he's still a class player
>>66254747
I love how United fags cry about Paki bandwagoners in one thread and then proceed to claim that Manchester United are the biggest club in the world because they have the most fans in another
>>66254848
>le classy fans who appreciate Pirlo while their own Xavi and Iniesta rekt everyone on their path
Pirlo is one of those players that brings the reddit out of people
The EPL circa 2005 has killed Englands chances of ever winning a WC again.
New TV deal will only make things worse and will even hinder Clubs in the champions leauge.
Spains era of dominance is starting to fall.
>>66254996
>Spains era of dominance is starting to fall.
How's that unpopular? Their team peaked in 2009 and they failed to progress from the World Cup group stage since then. It's been over for 2 years
>>66255088
I was on about both club and country.
They're on a high now but when Barca loose their unstoppable Midfield and Forwards the torch will probably be passed on elsewhere (likely Germany.) Not only that but the amount of FP regulations are being to fuck them over with both RM and AM being handed transfer bans for the same shit Barca pulled two years back.
Zidane is massively over rated by the general public.
He's good, but the fact that he's always up there with the true GOAT's is pretty laughable.
>>66255202
>when Barca loose their unstoppable Midfield and Forwards
well that's going to take 3-4 years. The only midfielder/forward that they'll have to replace in that time is Iniesta whose role is smaller with each year.
>the amount of FP regulations are being to fuck them over with both RM and AM being handed transfer bans for the same shit Barca pulled two years back.
Those transfer bans have fuck all to do with FFP regulations, it's irregularities in enrolling youngsters for the academy. They just signed some kids they were not supposed to.
>>66243289
>Real Madrid will lose to Wolfsburgh
I'd kill to have this happen. Watching Ronaldo melt down would be great
>>66241791
>-Liga and Bundesliga teams are currently better than Premier League teams
how is this an unpopular opinion?
its an objective fact
ireland will not win the euros
>>66254511
nigger spain had a fucking stacked defense and even more stacked fucking midfield, but Yes david villa was extremely consistent and clutch through out the tournament
>>66250099
Now that's unpopular
>>66255211
its that sensual first touch of his. 12 year olds and manchildren everywherre (me included) were entranced by it
>>66242114
>le tap in man
>>66244383
>Drogba
>better freekicks and volleys than Suarez
LOL
Peter Beardsley is one of the most talented players ever
>>66250099
>Rooney is unironically the best striker Manchester United and England have ever had.
/thread. You just can't make a statement any more controversial than this
>>66259287
>>66259760
>implying i'm wrong
>>66259982
That statement of yours is more unrealistic that Rooney's hairline m8
>>66249933
well avg. 2 points a game is easily top four form not midtable, as was there form at the end of the 12/13 season when suarez was suspended.
Suarez was the reason liverpool challenged for the title but, Mingolet; Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Flanagan; Gerrard, Henderson, Lucas/Allen; Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge, would of made top four.
If sturridge wasn't injured they would of made top four last season - his movement allows space for the likes of coutinho, sterling and lallana who are actually good players. Liverpool's win ratio with sturridge in the team is fucking fantastic.
>>66249933
His goals did win more points though, first three games of the season were 1-0 sturridge.
Zidane is the most overrated player of all time
>>66252852
Even at Chelsea, Deco won player of the month a few teams
>>66264174
*times
>>66241791
>-David Villa is second right after Suarez and better than Henry, Totti, Drogba, Fatnaldo, Eto’o n shit
I appreciate you put this in second, so I know I don't need to read the rest of your shitty opinion
>>66254074
/thread
>>66264311
>Seven
>One
>>66242054
>almost
>>66243351
>Zlatan is overrated
This is not an unpopular opinion
>>66241791
>Suarez and Villa are the best and second best strikers ever.
>Busquets is the best DM in history
>Owen never deserved a Ballon d'Or
LMAO
I can sense this is babby's first year watching football and they've decided to bandwagon Barcelona.
Don't you have some niche cartoonist to go shoot up, Muhammed?
>>66267597
>Country : Australia Soccer Club
>>66241791
Top Kek how underage could you possibly be? It's almost like your first football match watches was in 2010
>>66241791
One giant bait thread by some bored frog. You got a lot of people buddy. Good thing 4chan is the only place you can post these opinions otherwise you'd be laughed at and called a clown irl
>overrating Suarez this hard when he hasn't been on top for even that long
lol
might have to do with the fact that Xavi and Iniesta have been styling for so long the topic must have gotten boring
but Pirlo had a sweet tournament run there with Italy all the way to the final
>>66269055
>overrating Suarez this hard when he hasn't been on top for even that long
t. started watching football in 2013
Suarez has been world class since 09/10
>>66250099
>best striker Manchester United
Van nistelrooy was united's best striker.
>>66269107
>started watching football in 2013
Nice try kid. And no he hasn't been world class at Ajax and no one cared about him until after the 2010 World Cup when he punched the ball out of the goal line. Massively overrated by kiddies like you who probably play FIFA all day. Calling him the best striker of all time goes to show you haven't watched enough football to know that you need more than just two good seasons to earn that kind of title. He's not even better than Rivaldo.
>>66269280
>it's an american thinks his opinion on football matters episode
>>66269964
forgot webm
>the footballing world is miles behind all the other big sports
>Americans getting into football is one of the best things that can happen to the sport's level
>>66241791
>>66242207
being 13: the thread
>>66269280
Suarez will forgive this on judgement day
>>66269964
He's right though. Suarez is not a GOAT striker contender, not yet anyway.
>>66242247
except for the Thiago Silva meme this fucker is right
>>66269280
>hasn't been world class at Ajax
m8...
>>66270194
the GOAT striker - no
of the all time greats - definitely yes
>>66241998
suarez literally carried liverpool to almost win the PL, if it wasnt for slippy g and other incompetent players of liverpool
>>66243133
Yeah except again it is big merit of Suarez who provided him with the assists.
Remember, Suarez was top assists that season too
>>66248923
>>66243273
gerrard was fucking shite, he scored pens and had good set piece delivery but he was awful in open play
>>66242054
>almost
>Suarez almost won the Premier League
>Brendan Rodgers almost won the Premier League
>Steven Gerrard almost won the Premier League
Xabi Alonso has always been overrated - poor under pressure, not good enough defensively, and his meme long shots basically never work.
John Obi Mikel is one of the best DMs in the prem
Kompany is utter shit (not sure how unpopular this is), although Otamendi is actually ok
Buffon is the best and most consistent keeper in history
Scholes is the best english player in history
Luca toni is the best italian number 9 of the last 10-15 years
isco is better than james and bale
ozil is not good enough to start for germany internationally
>>66272034
The difference is Rodgers and Gerrard almost won the Premier League thanks to Suarez and instantly went back to irrelevancy once he left.
>>66272042
>Kompany is utter shit
This is supposed to be an unpopular opinions thread
>>66271808
u wot m9
are u hi
>>66272109
I think Sturridge's injury also had something to do with it. Their strikers were Lambert and Balotelli ffs, they were lucky to finish 7th.
>>66272042
>Xabi Alonso has always been overrated - poor under pressure, not good enough defensively, and his meme long shots basically never work.
He was world class in his prime
>John Obi Mikel is one of the best DMs in the prem
Based on what? The 10 appearances he gets every season?
>Kompany is utter shit (not sure how unpopular this is), although Otamendi is actually ok
Kompany when on form is one of the worlds best centre backs. City's defensive record without him is relegation tier.
>Buffon is the best and most consistent keeper in history
agreed
>Scholes is the best english player in history
You fell for the meme. He's not even in the top 10.
>Luca toni is the best italian number 9 of the last 10-15 years
Vieri was better
>isco is better than james and bale
all three are overrated shit
>ozil is not good enough to start for germany internationally
Ozil is one of the worlds best playmakers. Who should start ahead of him, Gotze? lol
>>66280250
>Kompany when on form is one of the worlds best centre backs. City's defensive record without him is relegation tier.
Too bad he hasn't been on form for more than a couple games since 2012
A team of Roy Keanes, Paul Scholes' and Joey Bartons would be far more entertaining than a team of MSN style and ability.
>>66253179
>Diarra
are you on drugs? this single thing invalidated your whole post
>>66241791
>Liga and Bundesliga teams are currently better than Premier League teams
YES
>>66241791
so much win
suarez highly underrated
casillas highly overrated
>>66247420
Luis Suarez was unironically the best player in the world in that season for Liverpool
>unpopular opinion
>>66241939
> I rated injury prone players
>>66283708
>implying Suarez doesn't belong with the Keane's, Barton's and Scholes'
>>66287523
Rare flag alert
>>66241791
When you say Suarez is the best striker in history, you mean in terms of ability and game impact right? Because even though he may be the greatest striker of all time in terms of skill and what he brings to a team (he isn't quite), results matter. Although I agree, Suarez is THE most complete striker who ever lived, but he isn't the greatest striker who ever lived.
Point I'm getting at is, Messi is undoubtedly one of, if not THE greatest technical player to ever live (perhaps only Maradonna and Cruyff compare from the modern age), but he isn't the greatest player of all time. The greatest player of all time would have won his team the 2014 WC, or the 2015 Copa America. The greatest player in the world wouldn't only play well for his solitary club, but drag his national team over the line when it matters.
Messi hasn't delivered on the biggest stage of all, the international stage, that's what separates him from the true GOATs who delivered for both club and country like Beckenbauer, Maradonna, Pele, Charlton, Zidane, Pirlo, Iniesta, Buffon, Gerd Muller etc etc.
As for strikers just off the top of my head who are still higher up the GOAT list than Suarez
>Raul
>Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima
>Gerd Müller
>De Stafinio
>Drogba
Just off the top of my head. Only one man on that list tops Suarez in terms of talent, but the others over their entire career delivered big when they were needed most. Remember how Suarez didn't score in the last 3 games of the season for Liverpool?
>Raul
Performed at a consistently high level through different era's for the best part of two decades and won a fuckton of trophies during Real Madrids most successful era in history.
>Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima
Won his country the world cup even after a near career ending injury. Perhaps the most skillful player to ever live, invented the modern #9 role
>>66289586
>>66241791
>Gerd Muller
Delivered for club and country over his entire career and held the record for most goals scored in a calendar year until beaten by Messi a few seasons ago
>De Stafinio
Won 5 European cups and 8 league titles for Madrid, and also held the Real Madrid club goal-scoring record for around 50 years
>Drogba
Delivered for club and country consistently for nearly a decade, one of the most consistent big game players in the last decade. Scored in nearly every final he ever played in. Won his team the European Trophy.
On the field Suerez runs rings around all of these guys apart from THE Ronaldo (when fit), but he hasn't single handedly delivered enough in big game moments to currently call him the true GOAT.
That's just my opinion
>>66289586
>this flag
I started to greentext every retarded point you tried to make but it's just too much
>>66289698
Sweet, I win then
Hey, remember the 2010 WC where tiny NZ placed higher than England? Me too.
England stopped being relevant to world football in the 70's, stop acting like you're an authority.
>Claims to have Invented football
>has 1 wc
topkek
>>66289888
>remember the 2010 WC where tiny NZ placed higher than England? Me too
this literally never happened
>>66289586
Suarez is not the most complete striker, Ronaldo is. And no mention of Van Basten or Henry but somehow Raul and Drogba make the list..
Also who the fuck is De Stafinio kek
>>66241791
>Suarez is the best striker in history.
+1
>David Villa is second right after Suarez and better than Henry, Totti, Drogba, Fatnaldo, Eto’o n shit
-1
>Casillas has been shit
+1
>since day one
-1
>Liga and Bundesliga teams are currently better than Premier League teams
+1
>-Thiago Silva is currently the best defender
0
>World Cup 2014 was the shittiest WC of the 21st century
-1
>Busquets is the best DM in history
+1
>Falcao and Torres have always been overrated even in their primes
+1
>Deco was total shit and overrated as fuck
need more input. define shit. during his career, i'd say he was overrated based on his public standing, but nobody talks about him anymore, so it evens out. i'd give this one a 0. overall, good unpopular opinion bro.
>Michael Owen is a poor mans Fred at best
this is a good unpopular opinion, i have no input, so i'd be neutral and give you a 0.
overall, you scored +2. good stuff, i guess.
>>66241791
>>66293535
OP, upon further inspection, looks like you're a barca fan. this explain the suarez and busquets things. i'm a leaning barca fan too so i think i may have given you unwarranted +1s there. so your unbiased score is 0.
this is pretty good score, considering it's an unpopular opinions thread.
but gotdam that villa comment.
>>66289142
Really? Football's pretty popular in Vietnam, and while it isn't one of the more common flag's it's not like it's some Oceanian country with a population of 1500.
>>66241791
>-World Cup 2014 was the shittiest WC of the 21st century (>Muh 7-1 >Muh 5-1 >Muh Missi)
that the WC 2002 was the shittiest WC in the recent history isn't even a opinion, it's a scientifically proven fact.
South Africa was a lot less entertaining than Brazil
>>66243591
>Anyone can play full back
yes.. badly, not at all well
>Draw games that isn't a knock outround should go straight to penalty shootout
gtfo usa
>>66296465
fucking pep and bzzzzers ruining it
>>66296465
and don't forget about the vuvuzelas, that fucking sound 90 minutes per game
>>66289586
>Drogba
>DROGBA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Drogba#Career_statistics
>In b4 strikers don't need to score goals
lol at drogba.
he's not a legend. he's a club legend. that's it.
>>66296517
>>66296560
>muh statpadding
When you have half an hour watch the YouTube video of all Drogba's goals for Chelsea. 06-08 in particular is absolutely unplayable. So many absolutely insanely good goals, the sheer power of the guy was frightening. His turn and volley against Liverpool in 2007 was better than any goals scored by Suarez or Aguero in the PL.
Not to mention his big game goals record, he scored in all of these:
>2005 league cup final v Liverpool
>2006 FA cup semi final v Liverpool
>2007 league cup final v Arsenal (2)
>2007 FA cup final v Man United
>2008 league cup final v Spurs
>2009 FA cup semi final v Arsenal
>2009 FA cup final v Everton
>2010 FA cup semi final v Villa
>2010 FA cup final v Pompey
>2012 FA cup final v Liverpool
>2012 Champions League final v Bayern
Literally the best big game player of the modern era, and he was a world class finisher in general, with multiple PL golden boots, beating Ronaldo to one.
Not rating the guy as one of the very best is madness.
>>66296696
these were all in the PL right?
cool.
reminds me of pele going to the MLS
>>66296696
Oh, forgot to add 2012 FA cup semi final v Spurs too. He's the king of Wembley tBh
![tumblr_inline_nt0vm22PRG1spsojg_400[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jUBpMoK.jpg "tumblr_inline_nt0vm22PRG1spsojg_400[1].jpg")
>>66296696
>Literally the best big game player of the modern era
>post a list of fa and league cup goals against eplel teams
and I love drogba
>>66296712
Dunno what you mean by this, are you implying he wasn't good in the PL? He got multiple golden boots, scored against the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool and United many times, and is in the 100 club. He didn't even take penalties, either.
>>66296730
The years he dominated those 'eplel' teams were the years when English teams dominated CL semi final line ups and literally always had a finalist. We're not talking current shit PL, we're talking Fergie era PL, a team which he bullied in mutliple occasions.
>>66296696
>Big game goals record
>Nickelodeon Cup finals against meme teams
I should have mentioned Champions League semi finals too. I can recall a handful of those down the years, including one against the GOAT Barcelona. Speaking of Barca, he scored against them a bunch of times, but Messi (who I won't deny is better) could never do it back.
>>66296793
I don't see your point, they're still finals, and no one else has a record like that in them. Also, those meme teams were part of the PL when it was the strongest league in the world. 8 English teams in the CL final in 8 years, plus multiple ones in every semi final line up.
>>66296768
only 4 of those games are from the years eplel teams dominated cl semifinals (2006-08).
And I love drogba and don't think stats make him any justice
>>66296755
im implying the PL wasn't good. even cristiano left once he felt he had enough with the PL.
>>66296836
2006-08 is massively under selling the PL. Look at my post above yours, there was an English finalist every year from 2005-2012 with the exception of only 2010. 2005, 2007, 2008 and 2009 all had mutliple English semi finalists, and that's just the ones I can remember off the top of my head.
>>66296836
Not to mention 4 different English teams make up those CL final appearances. Has any other league had 4 different teams in finals in such a short span, let alone with 3 of those teams winning it too.
Can we change the thread title to 'Retarded Opinions'?
More accurate.
Saurez gets pocketed by Turtlesacker on a regular basis.
HAHA ITS EURO TIME.
WHATS UP YA FUCKING WANKERS
Suarez is fucking shit.
At Liverpool wasn't better than than Torres.
In his best ever EPL season, he struggled to look better than Danny Sturridge playing in the exact same team.
At Barcelona he wasn't better than any of their previous strikers (Henry, Eto'o, Villa, Zlatan).
In the PL he was comfortably outplayed by the likes of Rooney (who was nowhere near his peak) Aguero, Costa, Bale etc. etc. etc.
He's won fuck all barring the customary 'win everything with Barca' year which literally any player could do.
He's a liability with his behaviour.
And some retards on here have the balls to call him the best of all time? Are you fucking high?
It shouldn't be an unpopular opinion, but then again /sp/ is pretty retarded when it comes to football. Go to any dedicated fan-forum and nobody will share this view. It seems to only be /sp/.
£71 million was a great deal for Liverpool. He's worth half of that.
I can name at least 20 superior forwards in the game today.
Seriously don't get it, is it because /sp/ likes controversy? The whole racism thing and the biting nonsense? Is that what gets you guys excited?
>>66296883
m8, you specifically talked about epl dominating semifinals in cl, and those were the years of the games you listed
Last ten editions:
2004/05 2 epl in semis
2005/06 2 liga in semis
2006/07 3 epl in semis
2007/08 3 epl in semis
2008/09 3 epl in semis
2009/10 4 different leagues
2010/11 2 liga in semis
2011/12 2 liga in semis
2012/13 2 liga 2 bundes in semis
2013/14 2 liga in semis
2014/15 2 liga in semis
>>66297070
>muh Barca and Madrid
How does that negate his point? What he said was accurate. The EPL dominated Europe from 2004-2012. They had more teams in the last 4 than any other country.
Learn to fucking read.
>>66297047
>>66260011
Nah you just a tswizzle-tier hater, check his records.
>Ronaldo
>Totti isn't even a 9, Eto'o was a beast (better than Villa for sure, maybe not better than Suarez) as were prime Adriano or prime Ibra
>Agreed. reflexbabby good only for highlights reel
>duh, that's a fact not an opinion
>Barzagli nigga. Bonucci and Varane are better as well
>nah, 2002 and 2010 were way worse, it was entertaining enough
>it is indeed difficult to find a player as good at both tackling and passing, but i think Rijkard and Beckenbauer (he played libero, but nowadays he would definitely be a DM) are still better
>true, Torres was decent but not that good
>true
>true
>>66297216
you dumb fucking ital, no wonder the mafia went to shit.
next time, atleast quote who the fuck you're replying to.
fucking european niggers.
here is one for england
Rooney is your GOAT. Can't deny that.
>>66297047
That's not "unpopular", that's retarded.
Jack Wilshere would be the best midfielder in the world if it wasn't for injuries.
Torres was a one season wonder. Outside of that one season he was an above average striker but never great. Negredo tier.
>>66297615
Maybe you missed
>It shouldn't be an unpopular opinion, but then again /sp/ is pretty retarded when it comes to football. Go to any dedicated fan-forum and nobody will share this view. It seems to only be /sp/.
You fucking spastic.
>>66243308
In b4 >bait
Rooney is a legit top 10 player when in form.
