Has there ever been a soccer player that's gone from an elite defender to a good to elite offensive player or vice versa? The only player that comes to mind that almost fits that description is >Gerrard
Bale was a FB at first, no?
>>66187976
Memebauer
>>66187976
About a million fullbacks started off as wingers. like the dude above said, Bale for the vice versa
He's not elite, but Schlupp or whatever his name is started off a striker and is now leftback for LESTAH
If you acccept Gerrard you have to accept Yaya Touré.
Bale was originally a left back.
Puyol was originally either a centre forward or right winger.
Cafu started as a forward
Gullit
Matthaus
Rio Ferdinand started out as a number 10, but I don't think you could call him elite in that role.
Fernando Hierro
Zé Roberto probably went back and forth from elite/good defender to elite/good offensive player multiple times during his carrer.
I'm pretty new to soccer/football.
What do you consoder the most important position? Outside of goalkeeper.
>>66189117
Centre forward. If you don't score you can't win.
>>66187960
First of all its football you uncultured swine.
Bonucci used to be centre forward and now hes elite centre back so yeah..
Thats why his finishing skills in front of goal is striker-like
>>66189117
winger
>>66189164
>>66189170
What about a middle guy?
>>66189117
For a shit team: Goal scoring centre forward/winger e.g. Vardy/Mahrez this season (These players will most likely be poached by bigger clubs and the small club will have to search for another gem to score goals for them)
For a team that wants to win a lot of shit (Barcelona, Real, Bayern): Defensive midfielder
There are no unimportant positions in football (like a Kicker in Am. Football which could easily be a job for another player in the team like QB or RB or some shit), but Fullback is definitely in my opinion the least important position.
>>66189221
They're all important but especially the midfield and forwards, just look.at barca when busquets doesn't play
>>66189221
I was just fucking with you, Mr BSA. Wingers are a meme.
"the middle guy" is pretty ambiguous, most teams have three of them all performing different roles. But yeah the creative playmaker on any team is just about the most important player.
If you actually want to learn the sport, play Football Manager. That game will force you to learn different player roles, tactics and rules.
>>66187960
is pic related pls tell me shes an athlete
>>66189117
Playmaker/No.10
Look at any GOAT list and it will be made up of mostly no.10s
>>66189221
actually, CM is really important without Iniesta or Xavi Messi wouldn't have been the goat
so its (to me):
CM(or CAM)
GK
Striker
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>>66189268
This... except about the Football Manager shit wtf m8
>>66189304
She's an instagram whore, probably been shat on in Dubai by now
Google John Charles OP
old school, but was an elite level central defender and center forward
played for Juventus for many years.
>>66189117
depends on the team, but generally elite attacking players (strikers, no.10s) are the most valued
personally i'd say GK, CB, CM and ST are broadly of roughly equal importance
>>66189393
William John Charles, CBE was a Welsh international footballer who played for Leeds United and Juventus. Rated by many as the greatest all-round footballer ever to come from Britain, he was equally adept at centre-forward or centre-back.
>>66189246
Even for a 'shit team' like Leicester the defensive midfielder was the key to success. Kante is the main reason they are at the top of the league. Mahrez and Vardy get most of the credit because of the goals though.
>>66187976
yeah, as a great man once said (some sky pundit) "fullbacks are failed centrebacks or failed wingers" then big baley proved that wrong
Matthäus started as an AM and played as a sweeper later in his career
>>66189117
Nr. 10 / CAM
cruyff was an elite player in defence midfield and attack all in the same game
Pirlo started out as a trequartista
>>66192971
this guy gets it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Crane
>>66187960
Lots of players uses to be able to play striker and centre back, you don't see it much anymore though
>>66187976
He wasn't an elite defender though.
Liberos of old were supposed to be that.
I guess someone like Hierro had top seasons as center back as well as a midfielder, I think he scored 22 goals once.
>>66189393
Came here to post this. Charles was voted the best foreign player ever at Juve, too.
drogba
>>66189246
>like a Kicker in Am. Football which could easily be a job for another player in the team like QB or RB or some shit
>this flag
>this subject
Stick to what you know
Pirlo started as a trequartista/n10
Van Nistelrooy started as a CB.
