>never once scored 20 league goals in a season
>considered an english legend
why are we so shit lads?
>This guy won the ballon d'or
I can't believe this shit
>>66102122
>treble of meme cups
>far from top scorer in the prem
>better than la liga & ucl top scorer
top meme
>>66102122
He was the og walcott meme
>that argentina game tho
I'm convinced that the entire Ballon d'Or voting that year was just a huge ABE conspiracy so that people could meme about us 10 years later
>>66102122
Injuries ruined him, his pace was literally insane ~18-21
>>66102122
English media and the discerning public love to overhype their players until they inevitably fall, so they can mock them.
They're the biggest promoters and detractors of their own players, which is why they ensure England never achieves it's potential on the global stage.
>>66102358
>English media and the discerning public love to overhype their players until they inevitably fall, so they can mock them.
>muh english media bogeyman
so it was the english media that gave him the Ballon d'Or?
>>66102122
And he wasn't English either.
Like most top teir English players he is actually Welsh.
>>66102852
>Cheshire is in Wales
u wot m8?
>>66102863
Isn't it in Wonderland?
>>66102852
Cheshire is practically Manchester lad
Fuck me the amount of 15 year olds that never watched prime Owen in here.
Owen was a fucking beast back in those days, not just scoring goals but in all round play, back then strikers didn't score goal a game because defences were actually decent.
Also Owen won the Ballon D'or because he was a beast for England that year.
>>66102139
National performances > club performances
>>66102852
Giggs is english
>>66102122
>considered an english legend
lol, no he isn't; Ultimate Team is not real life m8
He's hated by most of the country though
>>66102122
You're splitting fucking hairs. He scored 18 twice in consecutive seasons, and 19 twice in consecutive seasons.
And he's one of England's top goalscorers of all time.
Fuck off.
He was great but no Alan Shearer.
He wrote a really good soccer skills book.
No other player can match his ability in book shilling.
>>66103122
what did england win that year?
>>66102122
Because he made classic post-comedy like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD-LjX_K9Cg
>>66107523
i know estonia don't play international tournaments but there wasn't one on in 2001 m8
>>66102122
Because he taught kids to believe in themselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_q-C9g8x3w
>>66107326
>He scored 18 twice in consecutive seasons, and 19 twice in consecutive seasons.
is that supposed to be impressive or something? Austin, Benteke, Michu, Lukaku and Dempsey scored 18-19 Premier League goals in recent memory.
Harry Kane is already a better goalscorer than he was
>>66107603
He did it in a time when defenders were much better
>>66107739
lol no, late 90s EPL was crap. United were the only team that did anything in Europe
>>66107603
>Kane
His first season was nothing but tap ins and being fed the ball. His second season is marginally better but he not a good dribbler or has good technique all of which Owen had
>>66107955
lolyes.
Look at the number of goals scored now compared to early 2000s, it's because of the decline in defending
>>66102122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZWE4thApfE
>>66108196
Or the quality of strikers have improved, you mouth breather.
>>66112263
>Ronaldo, Henry, Batistuta, Shevchenko, Vieri, Crespo etc.
don't think so m8. Suarez, Aguero and Lewa are the only ones who can compare.
>>66108196
It's a number of things. I think the shift from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 is the main factor. Back then the two CF would share the goals, now teams focus on one main goal threat being supported by inverted wingers.
>>66102852
Why is Ramsey so good yet so shit? He seems to have just regressed from the player who scored 16 goals in the league before christmas a couple of years back, what are you doing wenger
>>66112470
He is a shit player who went through a good spell rather than vice-versa.
He was injured for more than half his career, he's the english Ronaldo
