Daily Reminder that Arsenal will never win the league again, or the CL, until this senile old bastard is finally sacked.
>hating on based Wenger
He's exactly like Ferguson
(except without the success)
>>65760877
If he wasn't such a stubborn faggot, he could have at least two CL titles and a handful more league wins.
>>65760898
based dutch bro
>>65760898
>(except without the success)
That's the whole point.
He's a man more concerned with frugality or with "finishing in the top four" than he is with winning a major trophy.
He doesn't have the hunger of an Alex Ferguson, of a Jose Mourinho, of a Pep Guardiola. He's an old man who wants to play "beautiful football" or some bollocks like that. Guess what - "beautiful football" doesn't win you fucking trophies.
OP is right. Wenger is a hack. Arsenal fans are so fucking delusional about him.
>blaming him instead of the board that cucked him for literal centuries
he is doing just fine given how little money he gets to spend
>>65760959
>"beautiful football" doesn't win you fucking trophies.
Well it does, you just need good players to achieve it.
>>65760986
they've had money for 3 straight summer transfer windows now and all he signed were 3 rejects from Barca/Real/Chelsea + his usual meme youngsters.
All after the big talk of Arsenal finally having the resources to compete with the top teams
>>65760877
If he doesn't win either the FA cup or the league this year, I reckon he's out. If they were going to win it, it would have been the year when everyone else choked. He's too happy with aiming for fourth, he should be aiming for first.
>>65760877
Quick reminder that this senile old bastard may yet win the league and FA cup this season.
All this while playing Flamini and the Coq in DMC.
Genius.
>>65761015
>He's too happy with aiming for fourth, he should be aiming for first.
But the board seems content with getting 4th and getting BTFO in CL ro16
I don't see Wenger leaving Arsenal until he's retired from football.
>>65760959
There was a time when Arsenal, post Invincibles, still played the best football in the country. But they haven't had even that for years.
I hope he stays, Arsenal could be a real force if any competent managed them.
>>65761026
>may yet win the league
lel
Man$hitty, as inconsistent as they are, still have more of a chance than Wonga's Arselels. To say nothing of Spuds and Lester.
Wonga is just too old and beta to create a winning team anymore.
>>65760986
1. Don't allow yourself to be cucked
2. They have actually spent plenty, that's not a valid excuse.
>>65761026
Coq is good.
Flamini on the other hand wouldn't be good enough for Lille.
if arsenal sacks wenger without having a major renewal of the squad they'll become a midtable team.
>>65761063
>inconsistent
man city went complete shit after poop was announced as next manager. they will probably remain like that for the rest of the season.
>>65760986
>le arsenal can't spend money meme
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3172642/Arsene-Wenger-sign-wants-200m-bank-m-glad-didn-t-buy-Raheem-Sterling-says-Arsenal-director-Lord-Harris.html
http://www.justarsenal.com/arsenal-cash-reserves-near-200m-big-january-transfers/44459
I remember arguing with arsecucks shortly after this piece of news came out, as they wildly claimed they could now attract any player in the world other than Messi/Donaldo, and they'd play for them.
Then Wonga proceeded to sign nobody but Cech in the transfer window.
top KEK
http://fuldans.se/?v=tpoljgeecn
>>65761063
Odds to win the league this season:
Arsenal: 6/4
Man City: 7-1
>>65761139
Man$hitty aren't exactly shit.
They're the ultimate flat track bullies. Their record against small teams is as good as their record against top teams is awful.
>>65760959
Wenger is the sort of person who prefers the journey to the arrival at the destination.
This mentality is what is holding the club back.
>>65761161
Reminder that betting odds are calculated on how much money betting house can make off specific bets, and there's way more suckers at the Emirates and worldwide than at the Emptyhad.
>betting odds meanschances of victory
Hahaha oh wow.
>>65761113
This
Wenger leaves, Arsenal finish 8-6th and become Liverpool / United irrelevant midtable team
GK: Cech
LB:
CB:
CB: Koscielny
RB:
DM:
CM: Fabregas
AM: Ozil
LF: Sanchez
RF:
ST: Benzema/Morata
I reckon this could have been the foundation of a great, title winning Arsenal side if Wenger had bothered to poach Fab from Barca instead of letting him go Chavski, and actually made the effort to buy a top class striker instead of persevering with that poncey big-nosed meme faggot.
>>65761205
and nothing of value was lost
>>65761199
Oh sweet, looks like you have a great chance to make lots of money with a bet on Man Shitty then - why don't you put your shanty on it?
>>65761223
Lad Arsenal just need a world class DM and a solid striker.
>>65761223
Giroud is the perfect man.
6'4
Amazing body
Good looking
Intelligent
French
Good fashion sense
Fantastic hair and beard
Plays professional football at the highest level
Everyone who hates him is jealous.
>>65761285
too bad he's shit at the one thing that matters to me - being a good striker
>>65761285
Why are English so gay?
>>65761285
Now if only he was a good striker
>>65761285
he really is a poster boy
>>65761277
Dm is fine. We need people who are clinical in front of goal. The chances converted ratio is laughable. Wenger out for saying giroud was good enough.
How the fuck do people think Arsenal has a chance of winning the league or CL when man per man they are probably third best in the league. Arsenal is not a top tier team and will never be a top tier team.
he shoulda fucked off years ago
>Arsecuck
>But United has more money we can't keep up
>Literally struggling to finish 4th
>But Chelsea has more money
>Literally fighting relegation
>But City has money we simply can't keep up
>Pellend gave up and Aguero can't do it alone
>Some fucking Leicester is on top of the league
>A fucking Spurs have change to win it
All your main rivals are handicapped and even now you can't win the league. Wonga is a hack. Either accept Arsenal is strong mediocre EPL team or win the league and then talk how great and big you are. There is literally no excuse for Arsenal this season. Every other manager would have 10 point lead by now considering how big boys are all underperforming but nope even now Arsenal is yet again choking. Worthless piece of shit club.
>>65761149
his recent bigger signings have been good tho
>>65761149
£200m is for ALL expenses, not transfers. I love how you fucks ignore that.
>>65761571
That is the shittest excuse ever. If Chelsea aren't in Top 4, somebody else is mathematically. Lester and Spurs are having a great season. It happpens in football, just like Chelsea aren't (or weren't).
>le no excuse
There is no excuses being made, football is football, if you think results are preordained you're either a faggot or a theist, though both are mutually exclusive.
>>65761300
>>65761398
Just because he's not Suarez/Messi/Neymar/Aguero/Ronaldo level it doesn't mean he's not good.
I would take him over Rooney, Benteke or Vardy any day desu.
>>65761718
He's doing the very bare minimum that is required though. Any striker would score a dozen or so goals in that Arsenal team and he does that, but little else. They are in need of someone who can get at least 30 in all comps and 20+ league goals.
>>65761667
Who the fuck is Leicester City? Arsenal has been 4th how many seasons now? They are veterans. Some nobody Italian reject manager just came and is wooping the league. Leicester players are literally whose while Arsenal according to their fans and media have one of the finest young talent in the world. Can't see this over hyped talent doing jackshit atm. Arsenal has great season every year until they collapse cause Wegner is an idiot manager. Great managers don't allow this to happen for 7 seasons in a row. Maybe next year eh? New signing and what not. Problem isn't the players. Great managers can kill almost every talent or bring out the best. Wegner can't do neither. Wegner does enough to get 4th so his Muslim fans could enjoy European football and travel a bit.
>>65761718
well no wonder Arsenal is mediocre, you guys are happy with a striker which has Europa League level. Rather than scouting and looking for good youth players or saving money to buy a good expensive CF Arsenal always buy rejects than have been proven to choke in the most important situations.
>>65761015
>FA Cup
Literally meaningless
>>65761026
>may yet win the league
Come on mate, don't lie to yourself
>>65761060
Exactly, when he was 10 years younger. He's too old now. His hunger has gone. I think it's the same with Pellegrini t.b.h. although he managed to win the league, perhaps because his club insisted on buying, buying and more buying.
>>65761198
Exactly my point
>>65761667
>>65761825
How many teams without sugar daddies have won the PL in the recent years? Its been chelsea arsenal and man United. Even if there is a team pulling an underdog story, the team with the most money wins. Arsenal don't have the players to win the league, and the best managers go to the best teams. Simeone, Mourinho and Pep will never go to Arsenal because Arsenal is not a top tier team . Wenger belongs in a team like Arsenal. Good but but not elite, just like arsenal
>>65761838
>greatest domestic cup competition in the world
>meaningless
>>65761640
Nigga it's cash reserves. Nothing to do with revenue.
>>65761902
>a team with a CL budget put his bet shot on winning a cup thats meant for Europe League teams level to win
Is like Juve was happy by winning just the Coppa Italia or Madrid by winning the Copa del Rey. If thats the best objective you guys are interested to win, dont come post here like you were some kind of big club.
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LMcCox5.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
>>65761902
>greatest domestic cup competition in the world
>>65761902
City LITERALLY committed suicide in the cup, willingly, because that's how little it means to them and the rest of the big clubs. That shows how much of a meaningless competition it is, and it's only because those teams don't care about it that Arsenal are able to win it.
>>65761828
>Rather than scouting and looking for good youth players
another issue, wenger has completely lost it when it comes to finding promising players
seriously, how many times did he say "I could have signed [any current good player]"?
>>65762019
Name a better one.
>>65762035
>because that's how little it means to them and the rest of the big clubs
And yet it's pretty much always won by the big clubs.
Don't confuse the FA Cup with meme dogshit like the League Cup or the Copa del Rey
If Arsenal had Chicharito instead of Giroud, they'd be first desu
>>65762055
protip: there isn't a better one, because national cup are meaningless. No top teams bothers about domestic cups.
>>65761223
what happened to Danny "world class" Welbeck la
>>65762180
>No top teams bothers about domestic cups.
At yet it's the top teams that regularly win them.
>>65762198
He was never world class?
>>65762055
fa cup is a shit tier mickey mouse local competition. It's so important city literally threw it away two days ago without thinking twice
>>65762080
>And yet it's pretty much always won by the big clubs
''''''''''''''big''''''''''''''' clubs tend to win domestic competitions
>dogshit like Copa del Rey
at least in copa del rey you'll play against recent CL winners or finalists/semifinalists, unlike the fa cup, whose last year the final 4 were reading, villa, liverpoo and arselol. That's how '''''''''''''great'''''''''''' the fa cup is and how ''''''''''''big''''''''''''' the teams playing it are
Any competition arselol can win is not great, let alone greatest
>>65762042
>seriously, how many times did he say "I could have signed [any current good player]"?
Enough times to make him the worst talent spotter EVER.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/arsenal-xi-could-been-4455482
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/arsenal-transfer-window-xi-team-7267767
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2923275/Cristiano-Ronaldo-Lionel-Messi-Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-superstar-XI-players-Arsenal-nearly-signed.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11222371/Arsenals-missed-XI-the-star-transfers-they-missed-out-on.html
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-toe-poke/65/post/2260550/ronaldo-messi-zlatan-pogba-pique-but-no-di-maria-wengers-nearly-men-arsenal-xi
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3134279/Arsenal-missed-transfer-XI-Geoffrey-Kondogbia-Lionel-Messi-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Superstars-nearly-signed.html
http://sabotagetimes.com/football/arsenal-the-superstar-xi-wenger-nearly-signed
It's not even funny anymore, just pathetic. Wonga actually was tipped on those players, scouted them then decided they weren't good enough for his team.
>>65762205
the point is they win it because all the big teams have the larger squads to play multiple competitions. And if they lose, nobody gives a fuck. Shit, Madrid got disqualified from the Copa del Rey, and they barely whined about it.
>>65762302
It's not even true most of the times. If you ask Wonga himself he'll say the old "almost signed him", but in many cases the player wasn't even close to.
>>65762269
>fa cup is a shit tier mickey mouse local competition.
It's not, furthermore I asked you to name a greater domestic cup competition in the world and you have still refused to do so, you strawmanning spic faggot.
FA Cup winners of the past 25 seasons:
1991–92 Liverpool
1992–93 Arsenal
1993–94 Manchester United
1994–95 Everton
1995–96 Manchester United
1996–97 Chelsea
1997–98 Arsenal
1998–99 Manchester United
1999–00 Chelsea
2000–01 Liverpool
2001–02 Arsenal
2002–03 Arsenal
2003–04 Manchester Unite
2005–06 Liverpool
2006–07 Chelsea
2007–08 Portsmouth
2008–09 Chelsea
2009–10 Chelsea
2010–11 Manchester City
2011–12 Chelsea
2012–13 Wigan Athletic
2013–14 Arsenal
2014–15 Arsenal
>b-b-b-b-but the big teams don't care about about le fa cup, they never win it
>>65762080
>And yet it's pretty much always won by the big clubs.
You mean like Pompey and Wigan?
Furthermore, notice how Man U won it only ONCE since and including the 99/2000 season, and yet in that space of time they won the league EIGHT times
Big teams don't fucking care.
>>65762316
That's because the CdR is a fucking joke. We're talking about the FA Cup, you greasy cunt.
>It's an Arsenal pretend the FA cup is anything special to big clubs episode
if arseanl had fired wenger in 2006 they would be one of the best teams in eurpe atm
but nope, they got >le buy teen and play like shit for 10 more years to win shit only
>>65762439
Mate just give up, this is truly pathetic
>>65762457
>pretty much always won by big clubs
>qualify this by posting the fa cup winners from the past 25 seasons
>all but TWO are won by big clubs
>"hurr durr but le pompey and le wigan won it"
>somehow this is thought of as a valid rebuttal
>"hurr durr big teams don't fucking care"
>clearly there in fucking the record books that they do
>>65762515
Lel. You mean you've been fucking BTFO and have no valid retort, you ignorant piece of shit?
>>65762540
Jesus mate take a chill pill
>firing a guy who puts the club in the green every years.
As long as there are profits they won't fire him.
Arsenal needs an oligarch
>>65762627
>gets absolutely arse ravaged with facts
>has no comeback
>"m-m-m-mate you need to take a chill pill"
>>65762645
>Arsenal needs an oligarch
Why? They clearly have money, pay great wages and are attractive without the need to rely on an individual to bank roll them.
the big teams usually win the FA Cup but there are shitters in the semis and in the final almost every year.
we've had Cardiff, Hull, Aston Villa, Stoke, Portsmouth etc in the final recently.
it seems like the big teams don't care until they reach the QF and think "ah well, why not win it if we got this far"
>>65762681
>and are attractive
yeah, that's wihy Le Invisible Turk is desperate to leave after being lured by the false promise of top silverware
>>65762439
>2003-04 Manchester Unite
>>65762805
>Le Invisible Turk is desperate to leave
Says who?
And if you think a big prestigious club like Arsenal that plays CL football every year and pays big wages aren't attractive, then your as daft as shit.
who /NLDnerves/ already?
>>65760959
Because winning a major trophy in the modern football age means spending out your asshole and spiraling into risky debt. When the finances of football finally crash arsenal will be far ahead.
It's getting pretty boring though
>>65762911
>Because winning a major trophy in the modern football age means spending out your asshole and spiraling into risky debt. When the finances of football finally crash arsenal will be far ahead.
bullshit, Barcelona, Madrid, United etc all greatly reduced their debt in the last 5 years and won trophies.
>>65762960
But they still blew shit loads of money which was kinda the point.
>>65762585
>>65762666
Except I gave you your "valid retort"
Man U won the FA cup once in the time that they won the league EIGHT times
Pompey won the FA cup and have never, ever challenged for the Prem, same with Wigan
Arsenal have won it the last two seasons and they're shit
The FA cup is a second-class competition that managers might try and win if a) they happen to be on a good run and b) nothing more important (e.g. the league or Europe) is more of a priority and c) their job is on the line and a bit of second-rate silverware might convince the club to keep them for a bit longer.
I really don't know why you're arguing for this mate, I mean I like the magic of the cup, but face the fact that it just isn't a very important competition.
>>65762911
Many clubs have been successful and not been ruined by debt (yet), e.g. Man U, Chelsea, Man City.
Also, Arsenal have TONS of cash to spare, more so than most clubs, so they could buy a few players before debt is even a possibility of becoming a problem.
>>65763097
and Arsenal have the resources to at least compete with them.
there are also teams like BVB, Juventus and Atletico that achieved great European and domestic success while being much poorer than Arsenal. Meanwhile Arsenal can't make the CL quarters for the 6th (SIXTH) year in a row
>>65763119
>Except I gave you your "valid retort"
No, you didn't. The statement was that big clubs pretty much always win the FA Cup, as proven with the records that clearly show this.
Blabbering on about Pompey means absolutely fuck all, you cretinous shit. as no one said big clubs win it EVERY year.
>b-b-b-but man utd only won it once when they won the pl eight times
Yes, because they're the only big club in England. Dickhead.
>>65763182
True, but those three teams you mention have hardly been consistent in the CL. It doesn't excuse Arsenal though, they certainly have a manager and the resources to be doing better than they are. It's kinda bizarre and I guess frustrating for some to seem them not doing so.
>>65763208
Why the fuck are you so mad? Were you bullied at school? It's okay mate, the big kids can't hurt you any more
>>65763287
Because /sp/ is infected with illogical strawmanning retards is why I'm mad.
>>65763323
Well I ain't constructing any sort of strawman mate, I'm just saying the FA cup is a meaningless competition
Which it is
>I'm just saying the FA cup is a meaningless competition
And you'd be wrong.
>>65760877
He should quit.
>>65763379
No, You are wrong.
The League Cup holds the same merit as the FA cup to big clubs now.
>>65770098
This.
The big teams win the League Cup 90% of the time as well, doesn't mean it's important. Overall, the domestic cups only hold real weight when you can win the treble
>>65770120
>big teams win the League Cup 90% of the time as well
this, big teams tend to win domestic cups. Bayern won pokal, barcelona won cdr, juve won copa, etc. Claiming that makes the fa cup more noteworthy than other countries' cups is ridiculous. Big teams tend to win against smaller teams in tourneys they enter, how surprising and unique of the fa cup
>>65770187
>Claiming that makes the fa cup more noteworthy than other countries' cups is ridiculous
Because it is. The FA Cup is the greatest and most prestigious domestic cup competition in the world. No one said it carries the same value as the league, or the European Cup/Champions League, but it pisses all over joke comps like CdR, or Pokal.
The League Cup is rubbish, and has always been. It was invented purely to give teams that had been knocked out of the FA Cup an opportunity to participate in a cup. It could disappear and no one would give a shit.
500m people worldwide watch the FA Cup Final, but some greasy spics and thick Abos think it's means nothing. lel.
>winning silverware is irrelevant compared to generating revenue and gaining more exposure in new markets
No wonder clubs treat fans like shit with that attitude
>>65770265
>500m people worldwide watch the FA Cup Final
hahahahahah, no they don't lmao. Last season's final was watched by 9m people in the UK (peak on BBC and ITV combined). I highly doubt there are 491m JFs who watched it
>>65770342
Yes they do.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/398586/More-than-half-a-billion-people-will-watch-FA-Cup-final
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SPORT/football/05/28/oldest.cup.competitions/index.html?eref=rss_latest
>>65770265
Only in your mind. Nobody oustside england thinks the fa is anything special other than the random domestic cup every country has, that's just marketing, like when people say the premier is the best league in the world and then their teams get slapped around in international competition. At least when you enter cdr you play against CL and EL winners and top teams, when you enter the fa cup you play against reading, villa and liverpool. It's a local cup, every country has its own
>>65770326
Winning silverware is a joy, thinking the fa cup is anything special compared to other domestic cups is ridiculous
>>65770404
You play against EL and CL winners in the FA Cup too, you thick spic.
You've still yet to name a greater and more prestigious domestic cup competition than the FA Cup.
>Nobody oustside england thinks the fa is anything special
Half a billion people say otherwise.
>>65770399
>fa cup final watched by more people than cl final
how can you believe this shit? lel
>>65770436
Even the managers don't give a fuck about the fa cup. At least Messi, Neymar, and Suarez play their domestic cup
>>65770440
>i think the fa cup is shit therefore everyone else in the world thinks the same
Prove it wrong, spic.
The FA sell the rights to over 100 nations, it is without question the biggest, most popular, most prestigious domestic cup competition in the world bar none.
>>65770436
>You play against EL and CL winners in the FA Cup too
lel no you don't, you haven't won those competitions in a few years, not even gotten far enough
>half a billion
No surprise you think fa is this great prestigious tournament if you also believe such retarded claims
>>65770468
>greasy spic pellegrini plays reserves against chelsea therefore every manager in england doesn't care about the fa cup
Yet again, Ameritards show why they should be banned from football topics on /sp/
>>65770478
Do you really believe the fa cup final has more viewers than the cl final? Yes or no. I want to know if I'm actually talking to a mentally handicapped person
>>65770486
>lel no you don't
Well obviously not this season, spic. But clubs do play them when they are CL and EL champions.
Does this give value to a domestic cup, no.
>No surprise you think fa is this great prestigious tournament if you also believe such retarded claims
Then prove it wrong. The reports are there that state the global audience figures and there are very many of them.
>>65770505
Again; prove the claims wrong. That's all you need to do.
>>65770523
Don't pussy out of the question, do you believe the fa cup final has more viewers than the cl final? Yes or no
>>65770544
Pussying out like you keep doing when I keep asking you to name a greater, more prestigious domestic cup competition, or repeatedly asking you to prove wrong the claims that the FA Cup Final is watched by a half-billion global audience?
Whenever you're ready, spic.
>>65770555
>he still won't answer the question with a simple yes because he knows how ridiculous the claim is and doesn't want to be laughed at even more
top keks, at least grow some balls and stand by the claims you make
For reference, uefa website puts the 2013 cl final global audience in 380 million, but some ''''''''''''people'''''''''' believe the fa cup final had 500 million viewers. I'm sure you also believe it when the tv ad tells you the ''''''''''premier'''''''''' league is the best league in the world
Btw, there's no way to compare two domestic cups since they never come across. The only comparison can be made when the participants of such competitions meet in other competitions and we know how english teams have fared against spanish teams in international competition recently.
Wenger dies.
A) arse slips to 5th place for the next 2 seasons. The players Wonga left are just not good enough. The board can't find a good replacement and they go the Liverpool way. Most of the bandwagoners leave. The ones who stay reach insane levels of delusion as arsenal is now replaced by Tottenham
B) arse hire a specialist in winning. He clean up Wenger's mess and brings a good DM and a striker. They win the double next season and the CL later while playing ugly football. Somehow, injuries stop. Wenger revisionists clash with the new cart of American bandwagoners. The specialist in winning leaves and poop comes in. Repeat 15 years of getting cucked by Tottenham
Which scenario would you prefer?
>>65770655
I've stood by the claims, every single one, and backed them up with reports from news outlets and facts. If you disagree with these figures then it is for you to prove otherwise.
I don't care what the CL Final global audience figures are, it's utterly irrelevant to the claim you are making that no one cares about the FA Cup outside of England and is, yet again, more bullshit strawmanning from a creepy weirdo incapable of actually arguing the points made.
Again; prove the claims that the global audience for the FA Cup are not what had been stated, and name a domestic cup competition greater and more prestigious. If not, go back to sleep, you lazy, greasy spic.
>>65770725
>I've stood by the claims, every single one, and backed them up with reports from news outlets
fucking kek
you've posted one article from 'The Express', a trash tabloid (read: unreliable source). The burden of evidence is still very much on you.
I just did a quick search and cant find one single reliable source which backs your claim up.
>>65770725
and looking at The Express article, they also provide no sauce or refernce. best as I can tell they've pulled that 500m number out of their ass.
it's clickbait and you're an uttermoron for falling for it.
>>65770755
>i disagree with the facts therefore the source is unreliable and i'll also ignore the cnn link because i cannot dismiss them in the way i can the express
Lel.
Take you pick, Abo.
https://www.google.co.uk/#q=fa+cup+final+worldwide+viewing+figures&start=10
>>65770725
>you lazy, greasy spic
lel I love how you keep adding insults the more pissed you get and you still haven't answered yes or no, probably to avoid the final humiliation of being exposed as a someone who thinks the fa cup final has more global audience than the cl final. Really, think about that claim for a second. If it were true the advertising and winning money for the fa cup would be huge compared to the cl, which nets ~75m to the competition winner
It's ok, though, I'm just happy with yesterday's game result
>>65770801
fucking kek, you're FURIOUS damage control is absolutely hilarious. don't worry I can pick apart that CNN "article" just as easily. All that article references is a decade old FA "estimate". Again, it provides no reference to the actual source of this so-called estimate.
I'd love to see the the ACTUAL source of this ridiculous claim because as yet I haven't seen anything other than religion-tier baseless and grandiose claims.
If you think your irrelevant domestic cup, the same competition SAF didn't feel was important to enough to bother fielding a side, pulls a larger audience than the UCL, you are UTTERLY delusional.
Tell me, lets say the FA Cup actually does pull 500m viewers. Why isn't the TV and prize money 100x what it currently is?
>>65770797
The FA have deliberately rearranged the FA Cup Final to appeal the global audiences much to the chagrin of English fans. They do so because of hugely popular and growing markets in the Middle East and Far East, which has seen them sell the broadcast rights to over 100 countries. It is, whether you or the lazy spic think otherwise, unquestionably the most prestigious domestic cup competition in the world.
I'm off to work now, maybe you can provide some actual facts to refute anything that I have posted by the time I come back.
>>65760877
I will kek hard when wenger out and Arsenal down into the abyss of english football.
>>65770853
Prove the figures regarding the FA Cup Final global audience wrong, that's all you need to do. I have no interest the the CL Final figures as I never disputed or challenged them. They're irrelevant.
>>65770853
You know what he is don't you.
He supports some lower league literally fucking who club and the FA Cup is the only time they are even remotely relevant if they happened to get drawn against a big team.
That is why he pretends that his shitty cup is 100x more relevant than it actually is.
>>65770882
>i picked a big successful team to 'support' in a country i don't live in because i think this makes my views on a sport i don't understand more valid and worthwhile
>>65770878
kek
KEK
K E K
This is LITERALLY like an American bible-thumper saying "P-PROVE JESUS DIDN'T COME BACK FROM THE DEAD"
You are a parody at this point
>>65770904
I don't support any shit English team
Even if I was going to do that, I'd probably pick a club that can make it past the first knockout round of the European Cup
kek
KEK
>>65770905
>uefa makes claims regarding the global audience of the cl final
>"yes, these are correct"
>fa makes claims regarding the global audience of the fa cup final
>"no these are wrong and stoopid cos the express reported them"
>>65770912
>I don't support any shit English team
No one said you did, you bandwagon, glory-supporting Abo faggot.
>>65770918
>uefa makes claims regarding the global audience of the cl final
>"yes, these are correct"
Yes because I can go onto their website, look at the figures and examine the empirical method they used to calculate it
>fa makes claims regarding the global audience of the fa cup final
>"no these are wrong and stoopid cos the express reported them"
Again yes, because this doesn't actually exist. Show me where on the FA website this is because I google searched it and it's make believe.
>>65761139
I read "shit after poop" as if it was a turn of phrase, good laugh.
Hey can someone tell me the last time a DfB Pokal winner got knocked out of an international competition by an English team?
>>65770958
The FA's website state the global audience for the 2005 final was 484m. It stands to reason given the increased global population, interest in the sport, money and promotion that this figure will have increased, hence the estimates of a 500m global audience.
>>65770976
>bayern munich win the CL therefore this makes the dfb-pokal a great competition
>>65771015
>The FA's website state the global audience for the 2005 final was 484m.
Oh really. I don't suppose I could trouble you to provide me with that link?
Oh wait you can't because it doesn't exist.
>>65771027
>doesn't exist
http://www.thefa.com/thefacup/more/history
I'd like to know what empirical method used to calculate CL Final audience UEFA provide that apparently anyone can go onto their website and see.
>>65771015
who are you quoting
>>65771030
>roadcasting The Cup
>Just 10,000 tuned in for the first televised FA Cup Final. In 2005 the viewing figures topped 484 million!Click here.
so then I actually click the link
>404 - File or directory not found.
The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
Sorry one completely baseless line off of a website doesn't constitute evidence.
>>65771058
It's pretty fucking clear, Fritz.
>>65771066
its not clear to me
>>65761063
>there are people out there who think spurs, a team who choke every chance they get to finish above arsenal are more likely to win the league than arsenal
I SHIGGY DOGGY DIGGY
>>65771062
>Sorry one completely baseless line off of a website doesn't constitute evidence.
Like on UEFA's website?
Of course there's no "evidence" there never actually is, they're estimates, you dumb bastard.
Just because you glory-supporting fickle football fans pick the big teams to 'support' then change your mind when another comes along you like better, only care for le big games, doesn't devalue or undermine competitions you don't care for, especially when they have a historic and prestigious appeal fair-weather clowns like you will never understand.
I'm looking online and getting numbers like 3.5, 9, and 10.5 million viewers for different finals. If they did pull 490m+ viewers this is a very worrisome drop off of viewership.
>>65771184
Those are UK audiences.
>>65771192
oh so 400 million people outside of the uk watche the fa cup
>>65771209
there are lots of asians and south americans watching (prolly not 400m tho)
