How do we make this crap as exciting as college football?
>>64858785
take away the draft and salary cap and have the players just sign to the highest paying teams, just like in college
>>64858843
This. Let's just have a league with 5 or less elite teams like European soccer, college football, NBA, tennis, etc
Take away the pussy penalties and let Pacman Jones lead the NFLPA
Bring back the replacement refs.
MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI
>>64858843
Too bad the socialist owners and fans would never allow this
>You will never see a perfect NFL
College football is awful in part because there is no parity and in part because southerners like it
>>64859186
>No parity
>Awful
People get excited over undefeated teams, not a league full of 8-8 teams.
The 1st time i see collage football, and goddamn that was good match. I thought only faggots played that game. But it was because I only watched the NFL.
> inb4 peru gay
>>64859342
Based bro
>>64859342
peru gay
>>64858785
>absolutely no defense in the 2nd half
>exciting
That's funny. You're funny. Might as well be Arena Football tbqh
>get 12-16 billionaires
>have them organize a capless Spring football league with minimal tampering rules (can't contact anyone signed to another team, that's about it)
>put teams in markets without NFL teams (Portland, Oklahoma City, St. Louis, San Antonio, San Diego, Salt Lake City, somewhere in the bum fuck Deep South, etc.)
>Tell one of the owners to sign Derrick Henry for a rookie contract the NFL can't compete with because of its CBA
Could it work?
>>64859427
>>64859474
It's not his fault he lives in a third world country where he literally eats shit everyday.
>>64859291
So would you bandwagon the Patriots or Seahawks?
>>64859683
>put teams in markets without NFL Teams
No. They don't have teams because they can't support one. If they could, well they would have one.
>>64858948
Is that really much different than it is now? How playoff games have the Patriots, Steelers, and Packers been to over the last 5-10 seasons?
NFL could do it, just have less commercials and less penalties. The delays in the game are what make the NFL boring. Don't even get me started on all the stops in play to review plays that take one look to decipher (but end up being a 2-3 minute commercial break).
>>64859342
primitive mind
Why does college football have no parity while the NFL has pretty good parity whereas college basketball has pretty good parity but the NBA has no parity
>>64859730
Way to completely miss the point
>>64858785
College football is watered down garbage made for frat boys, Maddenbabbies, cousinfuckers, and homosexuals. The offensive schemes are dull and simplistic, yet they still score a bajillion points because no one plays defense. In any given year there are only ~5 teams worth half a shit. It's designed for the absolute dregs of society, and no one else.
LATERALS
>>64859020
Please don't use the word "socialism" if you don't know what it means.
>NFL
>privately held, for-profit corporation contracting free agents
>college football
>state-sponsored enterprise propping up a public welfare program and forcing its employees to accept vouchers as compensation
Amateur handegg succeeds partially because of lots of fast, free flowing gimmicky offenses and blitzing to cover for the lack of size, polish and quantity of skillful, quality players across teams. Remember the wildcat and option revolutions? Its use declined because NFL defenses figured it out. NFL is just more geared toward plodding play as is.
>>64860115
The point is that you want to see a league dominated by 3-4 in perpetuity, I'm just wondering which one of them you would start rooting for when the other 28 teams inevitably lost all of their fans
Move every team to LA.
>>64858785
>Hookers and blackjack.
>literally 2016
>he still watches the nflel
wwe fan by chance?
fagt
>>64858785
>Bring in replacement players. That way the games are unpredictable. Also change the rosters of each team each week.
The NFL is fine. Don't pretend like you aren't obsessed with it like everybody else.
>every game is a blowout
>zero defense
>"exciting"
Why are CFB cucks so retarded?
>>64862656
>But it's unpredictable. Anyone could win. It's my alma matter.
>>64859020
why is every single league except for basedball jewed by a salary cap
>>64859683
Would be cool to see the Arena Football league expand and move to the spring
>>64862717
Partly because a lot of the smaller market teams complained about the bigger teams buying the better players. They couldn't compete so they had to figure out a way to handicap the teams in larger markets.
>>64862785
Isn't that what makes it competitive?
Why the fuck would you enter a poker game with 1000 dollars if some faggots with 1 million can sit at the table?
If you can't win on a level playing field you're shit and relying on handicaps.
>ITT: obese sperglard neets that never went to college
>>64862864
That's the idea. The interesting thing is that there seems to be more parity in MLB than either the NFL or NBA. In MLB, going the route of the Yankees or Dodgers doesn't usually work. Teams like the Royals and Giants win because they know how to draft and build a good farm system. Hell, the crappy Marlins have won two WS titles. Meanwhile in the NBA and NFL, you pretty much have the same teams in contention for the the title.
>>64860136
This, college is shit and defense is nowhere to be found. The offense are usually memes and their strategy and schemes are no where near being the same depth as their counterparts in the NFL. College is just too boring and games always seem to be high scoring. I'll take a low scoring game were both teams don't break 20 over one were they score 40+ points and all 3 phases show up to play not just the offense. The other problem with College ball is how significantly unbalanced the teams are.
>>64862979
>autism
>>64862984
Go back to watching your shit ass college games. Evrything I said is true, you can't even deny this. Let me guess you also enjoy high school ball.
If the NFL was like CFB you dumb faggots would constantly be screeching about meme plays, meme offenses, meme QBs, etc etc
Why can't we just enjoy the games. CFB can be very exciting at times and it can also be very boring. The same is true of the NFL. It's just a damn game. If you don't like watching the NFL or CFB then don't, no one is forcing you to.
>>64859774
Last time the league made it easier to sign great players it led to the stupidest NFC domination ever
Cowboys haven't gotten close to a SuperBowl because they can't buy players anymore
Now it takes skills , competence and good coaches to lead a team to a SB which is why out of the teams that made it to the owl in the 90s
Only 49ers , Broncos , GB , Pats, and some other team I believe I don't remember have made it to the superbowl since
Another thing is I never got the "college sports is more exciting meme" why turn the sport into apehoop? Big numbers = exciting Now?
College football is for sad manchildren
>>64863222
>That plus Jerry Jones screwed over Jimmie Johnson. Then decided he should be the GM.
>>64863272
I never understood why Jerry did that
Honestly the Cowboys were held together through jimmy and it showed after the third bowl win most of the players just didn't give a shit anymore
And jimmy isn't even aknowledged by Jerry to this day
Fucked up owner , fucked up organization
>>64863301
>all jerry had to do was stop taking credit for shit he didn't do
>couldn't even do that
we're talking about the same man that fired tom landry
>>64863350
Let's be fair here
Tom paid his dues and Jerry just bought the team
iirc he wanted to completely reboot the franchise because it was going down in the dumps along with the city of Dallas.
Better to let tom "retire" than ruin his legacy some more
>>64858785
no padding.
>>64863301
Jerry Jones isn't a humble man. He hated how much attention JJ was getting for the Cowboys' success. It probably also had to do with the fact that JJ was a control freak like Parcells. Jerry didn't like this so he fired him and hired a more agreeable coach in Barry Switzer. Just to reinforce that point, we have to remember that as soon as Jerry bought the Cowboys he fired the GM and even the legendary coach Tom Landry. He did that largely because he wanted to be in charge and run things his way. The problem again is that Jerry doesn't really care what anyone thinks and will do whatever he wants despite what his team actually needs. It's ironic because once JJ left,the Cowboys talent grew tired, and some of them even left to play for the 49ers because the owner was a lot nicer to the players. I can only imagine how many Super Bowls those Cowboys would have won if Jerry hadn't fired JJ.
>>64859774
>>64859774
SB winners from 1981-1995
>49ers (5)
>Redskins (3)
>Raiders (the only AFC win over NFC. it was against the redskins)
>Bears
>Giants (3)
>Cowboys (3)
compare that to the Brady era 2001-now
>Patriots (4)
>Bucs
>Steelers (2)
>Colts
>Giants(2 over NE)
>Saints
>Packers (over Steelers)
>Ravens
>Seahawks
Despite that Pats dominance and the ever present Steelers and Packers it is still more varied than years past or the NBA/NCAA which has had LeBron and Bama at the top for 6 years.
>>64863222
Yes, High scoring=exciting, Defensive games=bad. That is why the NFL cracks down on Defense, to spin the scoreboard and bring in viewers. The only thing that stopped the Arena League from success is being filled with nobodies and clearly looking like a feeder league.
>>64863301
Free agency killed that team. Because they had to pay Emmit they lost their number #2 WR Alvan Harper. and so on down the line.
>>64863350
Landry was 3-13 in the season before Jerry took over. 1-15 in the season immediately after. Jerry Jones confirmed idiot.
>>64862984
The difference between college and the NFL. The Browns CAN beat the Patriots if they played ten times whereas Arkon (not even the worst Div 1 team) would struggle to even score in all 10 games.
>>64862665
>Anyone can win
Unless the pollsters don't like you that is, or you don't get the benefit of the doubt like the SEC currently
>>64863043
Anon, you haven't been paying attention, everything is a meme now.
>>64863123
Because College purists are mad they are not as popular and NFL fans feel threatened by their older but less successful brother
unrelated but because of the 50 years of pre-NFL stat padding Yale and Princeton still hold the most titles with Bama a distant 3rd
People tend to call an NFL game boring, in part because they want to see 40-38 scoreboards. The reality is that when you try to implement that fast paced, explosive Offense in the NFL it doesn't work, Coaches and players are way too experimented for that kind of nonsense. Of course people think the NFL is boring. Not every game is gonna be a shootout with a lot of points. Also the rules are different, and that's a problem because rookies need to adapt fast. I prefer the NFL all day every day. Salute!
Start by reducing # of commercials and fucking get rid of berman
>college football
>quarterbacks run more than they pass
>when they do pass, it will hit the reciever right in the chest but the dumb little fucker drops it anyway
I enjoyed college football when I went to state but now I see it as garbage
>>64864497
Case in point: the Eagles were as close to being the Oregon Ducks as possible for three seasons and they couldn't buy points for half the season
>>64864520
Don't watch ESPN pregame and halftime. Solved.
>>64864944
Its like when the annoying chicago guy comes on mlb network. Sometimes ur too late to change the channel and then BOOM they hit your ears
Harold Reynolds too.
>>64864624
An example of a college QB still playing like a college QB, Johnny Manziel.
Why are college uniforms better looking than the professionals?
multiball
>actually considering college sports worthwhile
Ironic that those with the theoretically highest education in the US are apparentely also its biggest retards. No wonder their country isn't going anywhere anymore.
>>64864944
Seriously this. I can't stand the talking heads from every network. If there isn't an actual game being played I'm on another channel or away from the TV. Not sure how people watch all the pre-game crap.
Widen the hash marks.
It'll encourage more teams to go for it on 4th down rather than kick at an angle. It'll encourage greater variety in play calling since they can't start in the middle every time.
Seriously, why haven't they done this already?
>>64864989
>traditional
>most schools don't fuck up a classic, tried and true design
>Oregon looks like Nike had diarrhea all over the field every week
>>64865074
Not to sound pretentious, but most foreigners genuinely do not understand the college sports culture of the US.
>>64865074
This >>64865096
For all the euro banter of
>no Sport Culture
>Teams are too spread out
>Why support a team that will leave you
They ignore the one facet of American sports that is akin to their own. But then again I forget, American's are not allowed to have culture because Europe said so.
>>64865143
>But then again I forget, American's are not allowed to have culture because Europe said so.
back to reddit with you, anon
>>64865189
>Le Reddit Bogeyman.
>>64858785
>550 yards on offense and losing
>exciting
OP if you want more scoring watch basketball
>>64860136
/thread
>>64862923
>my NFL team doesn't have cheerleaders
>other people must not enjoy them
>>64858785
have the league stop fixing/rigging games
people still watch the NFL? lol
>>64865224
That's low for college. They hit 700 on the regular.
>>64865297
NCAA first.
>>64865304
Here is your (you)
Stop making the best players play for the worst teams
>m-muh parity
You get guys like Watt, Megatron and Suh playing their whole careers on mediocre teams. This is not good for the league.
Now the next generation of wasted careers has begun. Beckham, Donald and Mack wasted on shit tier clubs.
>>64865437
it is to give the shit teams a chance. If we just gave the best players to the best team that just turns a NFL team like recent New England into Bama. While making the rest of the league the MAC
>>64865492
Soccer is like that and it's 20x more exciting
>>64865379
>this delusion
>>64865499
LOL
>>64859291
Not when it's the same fucking teams over and over and over again.
>>64858785
College football isn't as exciting as the NFL, though.
We just came off the worst bowl season in recent memory.
Even rivalry week was a bore.
>>64865504
>>64865499
Baiting this hard.
>>64865519
Oh look OSU has been good for 50 years and is good again, I am shocked.
>>64865531
Because the games didn't mean anything because 1 team was really good while the other was middle of the road. add to it the playoff was pretty much set excluding the B1G.
>>64865531
maybe the worst New Years bowls in history. I think the closest game was still a 20+ point blowout. It's a shame, because most of the early bowl games were actually really good.
Let's argue about favourite colour next.
You all are dumb as shit.
>>64859774
The last 7 Super Bowl champions have been different. Arizona and Carolina are the front runners this year, which would make it 8 in a row.
>>64865661
blurple is best color
>>64865661
Never doubt the stupidity of 4chan
>>64865696
I like it but prefer lavender.
>>64862979
And college being shitty like this is leading to a worse product for the nfl. Now the option is prevalent because you can score a ton of points on undisciplined kids with it rather then teaching good football.
They keep sending up these glorified running backs that haven't thrown a solid pass in their life and they continue to suck even with the easy mode modern nfl rules.
How do you make the NFL interesting? The team that wins the game is the only team to get paid that week.
>>64865741
Yeah man it's a shame that those mobile unproven college qb's are holding guns to these GM's head and making them draft them.
>>64865661
first day on /sp/ anon? here is what threads we we have
>USA vs The World
>the thing I like is the best and you're wrong for liking anything else
>bait with the team/athlete of your choice
>game threads which are really just shitposting about the game in real-time contained to a thread.
>Spam threads after an event to celebrate/rub it in
>things used to be better
>forced meme of the month.
please enjoy your stay.
>>64865781
The quarterbacks don't, but college coaches do. There simply aren't any options outside if them anymore. Yeah we got Luck, but other then that?
>>64865781
Good fallacy. But pro style QBs don't do well in College. They are either hand-off junkies or go to small/loser schools.
>>64865817
a pro style qb won the national championship last night.
AJ McCarron has looked great in his few starts.
First double the roster.
Second get a kicker who comes from a different sport.
Despite having over a hundred players, only 3 are competent on defense.
>>64865837
>one game over 300 (last night)
>RB has more carries than he does pass attempts
>not a hand-off junkie.
okay.
>>64865868
Running is a big part of football, you fucking faggot.
>hurr durr why did they keep giving the ball to the heisman winner derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Coker is 6'5" and has a solid arm. He's the definition of a pro-style qb and someone will pick him up.
>>64865837
Checks McCarron's Bama stats he threw even less. They both played almost a full NFL season with Bama here is where McCarron's Bama stats rank him in 2014 23rd Between Kyle Orton and Teddy Bridgewater. Coker's 2015 2erd between Tyrod Taylor and Bridgewater.
>>64865895
He was the Heisman winner because they kept feeding him. Also if you look at Alex Smith living off the running game isn't a bad thing.
But you are missing my point. pro style QBs don't go to big schools to throw, they go to hand off. They go to small schools to throw.
>>64865895
He'll be like a 5-6th round pick and probably be a back up for a few years, get a chance to start, fuck up and then get cut. But at least he won the championship!
>>64865954
23rd* not 2erd
>>64865963
Also this McCarron was a fifth rd pick, how many flashy option QB's got taken before him because he was stuck handing the ball off?
>>64865954
They kept giving him the ball because he was a workhorse and people couldn't stop him. You're retarded.
>he only won the heisman because he got a lot of carries
For what purpose did he get a lot of carries? Maybe because he couldn't be fucking stopped?
Plenty of pro-style qb's go to big schools to play ball.
Protip: Running the football is more important than passing the football.
>>64866001
Says the league that has Brady winning with jobbers and how many titles does AP have? How about Dickerson? Barry Sanders? I think you have to go back to Emmit Smith for a team that used the run to win.
>>64866042
You have to be able to run the football to set up the pass.
>>64866064
No, no you don't. See 2014 Broncos or pretty much every Peyton team.
>>64863379
this is inevitable, but not for excitement purposes
>>64862923
desu just about everyone in the US goes to college for a year or two since guidance councilors push it so fucking hard these days. they also get kickbacks for every admission
>>64865094
>expecting anything else from a DUDE WEED state
>>64858785
>How do we make this crap as exciting as college football?
By having shittier defenses.
>>64859774
>How playoff games have the Patriots, Steelers, and Packers been to over the last 5-10 seasons?
Static divisions, where certain teams continue to be shit year-in year-out. Periodical realignment could help mix things up.
how about the nfl goes to a ranking system to decide the champion like college football. ESPN would be good at it.
>>64866188
So using that logic New England has won every title since Brady took over.
NFL is a pathetic snoozefest. Been that way for years now. Way too much refball and too many goddamn commercials. Goodell ruined the league years ago. It's target demographic is literally NASCAR tier now and the stadiums are full of drunken, obese, inbred trash.
College ball will always be the patrician's preferred blend.
>>64866219
15 yard personal foul penalty for tackling Tom Brady
>>64866219
fyi more game stoppages and commercials in college than nfl
>>64866219
>implying Wild Card weekend
Were you not entertained?!
>>64866264
>giving a shit about commercials
Thats when you get up to grab another beer, refill the snack bowl, take a piss, flip to another game to check the score....
Why do you faggots cry about commercials so much?
>>64866219
>college ball will always be the patrician's preferred blend.
Lmao this guy's not from the south
>>64866302
>being too poor for NFL teams
>>64866219
>drunken, obese, inbred trash
That's mostly Bengals fans.
>>64866001
starting QBs this season
Carson Palmer USC-RB Reggie Bush
Matt Ryan Boston College Small school
Joe Flacco Delaware Small School
Tyrod Taylor Virginia Tech running qb
Cam Netwon Auburn Running QB
Jay Cutler Vanderbilt loser SEC school
Andy Dalton TCU played for them when they were an un-respected independent
Johnny football A&M Running QB
Tony Romo Eastern Illinois Small School
Brock Os Arizona State
Peyton Tennessee
Brady Michigan couldn’t keep the starting job (also a running team)
Matt Stafford Georgia spread
Blake Bortles UCF Small School
Alex Smith Utah (an option team)
Drew Brees Purdue loser B1G school
Kirk Cousins Michigan State
Sam Bradford Oklahoma (A running team)
Blane Gabbert Missouri spread
Derek Carr Fresno State Loser school
Phillip Rivers NC State Small School
Ben Roethlisberger Miami(OH) Small School
Russel Wilson Wisconsin Running QB on a Running team
Ryan Tannehill A&M
Teddy Bridgewater Louisville
Jameis Winston Florida state running QB
Marcus Mariota Hawaii
Bryan Hoyer Michigan State
Eli Manning Ole miss spread
Andrew Luck Stanford
Ryan Fitzpatrick Harvard
How many good qb's went to a big title game playing school? 3?
>>64865768
that'd be great. players would actually put effort and be heartbroken about a loss more than the fans. too bad it's impossible with all the union stuff in the way.
>mfw the 2008 lions wouldn't have gotten paid once
>>64866406
Yeah that pesky union, that without would have left the player still playing for min wage and working in the off season.
>>64866491
>entertainers should be paid millions
Anyone remember the days when Tim Tebow was considered to be good?
I sure as hell don't.
>>64865499
LOVING EVERY LAUGH
>>64866537
He retires with a winning record and a .500 playoff record. He was pretty successful despite being trash
>>64866518
Nice bait Italy, but going back to dead ball era talent levels is not entertaining.
>>64866363
Let's see. Peyton won a national title. Brady beat Alabama in the orange bowl. Winston won a heisman and a national title. Same with Cam Newton. Manziel won a heisman. Stafford and knowshon were the best Georgia team of the last 20 years. Sam Bradford won a heisman.
Not to mention conference championships and all that other shit won by those guys.
What the fuck is your point again?
>>64866710
>lists 3 running QBs
Peyton I give you
Brady couldn't beat out Drew Henson and sat behind Brian griese
PRO style.QB's GENERALLY go to lesser known schools or are handcuffed to a RB they hand off to at bigger ones. Because they can't drop back 40 times like the pros because their line can't pass block and they have maybe 1 half decent receiver.
>>64859683
hasn't this been tried several times before? xfl, usfl, etc.?
>>64866710
You missed Bradford having DeMarco Murry on a team that knew how to use him.
>>64866808
Yeah. I'm sure Romo chose to go to Eastern illinois fuck nigga A&M western tech instead of Alabama because he wanted to pass more.
Or maybe
He wasn't good enough in high school for a big school to notice him, and developed his game at the college level and continued to get better at every level.
Some talent peaks sooner than others anon.
And watching a game where they throw the ball 40 times is fucking boring as shit. Run the god damn football.
>>64866835
Any NFL-lite that pops up either gets absorbed (AAFL AFL) or folds within 10 years (USFL, XFL, Arena league the first time NFL Europe)
>>64866862
>no World League
>not going wild over the Montreal Machine
>>64866852
The NFL team you this weekend is the Seahawks (32 in pass attempts 2nd in rush)
>>64866895
Didn't think I needed to list all of them Canada.
>>64858785
More commercials.
>>64867024
This, I watch football for the commercials, not the game. It should be for every min of game clock 5 ins of commercials.
>>64859002
The only game I've ever left early was a replacement ref game. Week 2 Den @ ATL. It was almost 11 PM by halftime and Atlanta had the game wrapped up. I said fuck this, I'm not cruising through Vine City at 1 AM.
>>64866896
fuck you. russel is elite
>>64859002
>Bring back the replacement refs.
Oh shit completely forgot about that. That was hilarious.
>>64867254
My apologies I pulled last year up
This year is 28th and 3rd. Chiefs pass less but Seahawks run more.
>>64867321
Looking over it even further the this weekend Panthers Seahawks game should make >>64866852 cream yourself in excitement as the Panthers run the most and only threw 13 more passes than Seattle all season.
