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old thread: >>64649486

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>Chelsea neglecting a literal wonderkid and selling him to me

I love them so much
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Who should I sign for my West Ham side
Iván 3,5 star pot, €10m (€11,5 with installments]
Byram 3,5 star pot, €11m (€13,5 with installments)
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>>64713382
>>64713412
Are all the negative reviews on Steam just reactions from a bunch of butthurts?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Why God, why?!
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>>64713509
Ivan
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breathe some life into ye

>>64713512

yes, they're fucking casuals who bought into the hype thinking they were getting X-TREME FIFA TM MANAGER™, not the autism enabling file that is actually downloaded and played.
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>>64713509
Byram for dat English core
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>>64713512
It's better than 15 in my opinion, haven't read any reviews and I haven't noticed any problems that 15 didn't already have. what are the guys on steam complaining about?

370 hours played so far.
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>>64713543
Got it thanks. I think I'll dl it tonight.

>64713533
All kinds of shit. It does seem rather nit-picky though. I was worried because they make it sound impossibly hard and that the AI is completely ridiculous.
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How do I change a team's name and crest? I have the In-Game Editor.
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>>64713512
Every year there's a ton of negative reviews from people who wanted a casual experience.

Ignore them.
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steal of the century
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United and 'Pool in fucking shambles, Norwich and Sunderland blazing.
What is this season.
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Aren't West Ham supposed to be a fucking talent factory?

I'm livid.
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How the fuck do I stop all these mohawks in regens?
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finally caved and bought 16. manager creator is funny. i assume everyone goes with bright green jacket, shirt and pants?
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Does it ever bother you that you're spending your youth watching little computer men play soccer

For me yes

I don't even like soccer and I've played 3000 hours of this?
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>lose match
>game crashes right after while on tactics screen
>didn't save so have to replay
>win match

I feel a little dirty
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>>64715750
No cause I'm not a fucking normie who thinks they should be drunk 24/7
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>>64715703
Download the hair pack

http://sortitoutsi.net/downloads/view/19777/released-fm16-newgenregen-hairpack-2580-new-hairstyles
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>>64715772
You something in between exists right?
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>>64713643
pls respond
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>>64715761
Divine intervention m8
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>>64715761
Keep reloading until you get the same exact result in the same match. It is the only way.

>>64715739
fucking doug stanhope
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>people paid money to watch this
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>>64715954
And then the next game this happens, all 3 goals were blooters too.
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this papi chulo worth $25 million?
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A few days before the last game of the season Dmitri Payet gets injured for up to 6 months.

Was just thinking that I was gonna have to get rid of him...
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>>64716757
It's not like I was needing him or anything :^)
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>>64716741
no
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Anyone know where I can get an OSX torrent of FM '16?
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>>64717238

http://store.steampowered.com/app/378120/?snr=1_7_15__13
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>>64715199
Based Steve Rutherford.
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help, need away tactic.

doing pretty good at home, unbeaten in the league, but as soon as I play away, I get my dick kicked in so hard it inverts into itself
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>>64717657
current tactic
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>>64717670
>starting as Arsenal
>Arteta
>Lucas
>Pelle
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>>64717682
don't forget
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>>64717713
Alaba is obviously a good signing, but I don't understand the other three at all. Are you just signing players you like?
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>>64717780
Pelle the exception. Signed Lucas because at the time, coquelin, wilshere and flamini were all injured. saw Lucas was available for half the price, as he was listed so I went for him. His value is still at around 14m so wasn't that bad.

Apart from the numerous cards (down to my tactics) he's done pretty well.

Klose was mainly to tutor the young players mental stats.
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>finishing
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>>64717321
ur stupid, thats not a torrent.
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Well I thought we would've been knocked out.
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>>64718141
>biggest shock of the first round

nice
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>>64718164
Might even make the third round.
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Hello friends.
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>>64718188
hello
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>>64718188
hey
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>>64713509

I have Iván on my Wolves save, super solid.
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>>64713509
Don't be a faggot, get Mayke.
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>1st season
>fa cup winners and promotion to the premier league
>2nd season
>mid table and semi finals of Uefa cup
wew lads wish me luck.my team is absolute shite.
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>>64718391
fucking lost 3 nil, fucking corners everytime.
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>>64718188
>mfw minifridge watches our match

very entertaining match that easily could've gone 3-3, just neither team can finish.
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Having trouble with tactics in 16. Is there any merit to not changing the team tactics at all, and just editing the player instructions?

Then just changing to attacking and stuff like that in match depending on the result?

How do you guys do it.
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Why should I ever play matches when my assman is way better than me?
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>>64718708
download other people's tactics.
Honestly i think it varies with each team you're managing and what league you're in.
Just highlight your teams strengths or what some players are good at and go from there. I always prepare def positioning though and i only train players to play the role and position im asking them too.
Then it's all about micro managing, keep praising for good form, have team meetings etc.
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>>64718863
Oh and i also rest my first eleven for one day immediately after a game, it ensures they are always over 90 % fitness for every game, then i just occasionally rest them now and again
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>absolutely on fire yesterday
>boot up fm today
>lose 3-0 to bottom-placed team in the first game

hate this meme

>>64718708
completely depends on the team desu

like I'm playing some vanilla attacking 4-2-3-1 shit on my latest save but that would never have worked on my last save.
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>win my CL group
>PSG come second
>I get Man City
>PSG get Lazio
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>>64718708
Ladies and gentlemen. _______ will be playing Four-Four-Fucking Two.
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>my player scores goal of the season
>knows someone will be seriously injured because that is how miles has programmed this piece of shit game
>top striker goes down and gone for 3 months
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>>64719031
infuririating at times this game
>sign a star player on wages i didn't want to give
>does his cruciate ligament and is out all season after one game.
top stuff.
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>>64716195
>wealdstone

nice normie facebook meme
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>>64718863
>download other people's tactics.
you can leave

>>64718708
post primary tactic
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Haven't played a FM game since 2012.

Holy shit what are all of these positions?

Half back? Water carrier? What the fuck is that???
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47 decides on my next team to manage
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>>64719292
i meant 4 or 7, shit
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>>64719284
they're meme positions for meme players
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>>64719292

real madrid
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Help me out, family members

I desperately need a good Shadow Striker.

Chuks is £4m while Pavon is £2.4m
Wages offered are about equal, though Pavon wants a shorter contract (2y/4y)
Pavon is only accomplished at AMC, and would need some positional training.
Chuks seems to have reached his potential, while Pavon still has some way to go.
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>>64719292
Catania
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>>64719371
neither of them are regens
who cares
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>>64719371
>signing africans
Pavón is cheaper and has more potential. That alone should tell you who to sign. Although, if you want a good first teamer, you should go for neither. And if you go for Pavón, don't sign him for anything under 3 years.
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>>64719234
>implying i do
it was a joke/easy bait for autists like yourself.
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>>64719496
>if you want a good first teamer, you should go for neither
Pavon is a leading player for most eredivise sides, while Chuks is a star player for most eredivise sides.
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>>64719511
Hey, I'm going to let you in on something kept real quiet these years: Sarcasm rarely works when you only have text to use.
If it was a joke, it was neither funny nor had any indication that it was supposed to be.
If it was 'bait', it was also shit because it was posed as advice.
And I don't care if you do or don't, suggesting it to others is enough of a reason to fuck off.
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>>64719551
Are those two really your only options? I'd sign Pavón if I had to choose, then. He's pure cheese.
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>>64719579
>download other people's tactics
>Honestly was the word used straight after
Sarcasm is very easily understood via text maybe i should have said 'Honestly though' to avoid people like yourself.
>If it was a joke, it was neither funny nor had any indication that it was supposed to be.
Are you being serious?
>If it was 'bait', it was also shit because it was posed as advice.
back to reddit mate.
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>>64719600
Perhaps not, but I have a limited budget (£6m) and I don't feel my rep has been boosted yet after finishing 2nd with Utrecht.

If you have any reccomendations I'd appreciate it, but Shadow Strikers don't exactly grow on trees you know.
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http://mercedes-benz-junior-cup.de/de/popup/live-stream.html
Mercedes Benz Indoor Junior Cup is back lads.
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>>64719680
Nurture a sapling from your academy
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>>64719732
>scoring using the wall

Disgusting
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>>64719732
Judging by the scenes going on now I'm guessing that was the final which is disappointing
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>>64719764
I am literally trying
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/football-manager-boss-reveals-apologise-7122663
>Harry Kane.

>We did always have him as all right but I have personally said sorry to him because there was a long period where he was on loan at other clubs and we didn't think he was going to reach the heights that he has done.

>I met him at the London Football Awards and he is known for playing a lot of computer games and I said 'we get 0.5 percent wrong, you were one that we got wrong', and he said to me one of the reasons he was trying so hard was to make sure his stats were better in the game.

>He's been a revelation for a lot of people and was just a late bloomer and was probably suited better to playing Premier League football than Championship football which is rare and usually the other way.

On top of everything here I must also greentext
>stats
Miles pls
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>>64719898
determination and mental attributes should all go up to 30 on the game. average joe's could be a decent player had they had these attributes.
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>tfw gf is coming home soon
>gonna have to stop drinking and playing on fm
what is the point.
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>>64720006
>gf not letting you drink
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>>64720030
oh she allows me to drink ,i just don't know when to stop.
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>no one wants to join my team
>all my good young players want to leave to play in a better division
>big teams don't even offer me their value
>board gets mad if I don't win every game
>Ajax wins lol

fuck eredivise I am this close to selling out
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>>64720344
are you psv
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Is it me or are good regens harder to sign in 16?
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>>64720400
Rotterdam

sure my team sucks and my reputation sucks and I've done this with dozens of saves but for some reason dutch players piss me off more than any others
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>>64720520
yeah they are boring and paceless
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>The Daily Telegraph is reporting that Cristiano Ronaldo will leave Real Madrid at the end of the season, despite the appointment of Zinedine Zidane.

>It suggests the club are prepared to off-load Ronaldo in an attempt to "create a more team-orientated philosophy at the club".
lel
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>>64720607
post this in the /trans/ thread la
it really needs some discussion
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>>64720667
I want Ronaldofag to see it and be btfo
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>>64720697
me too la
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>>64720697
Remember to include a bit about how Bale is worth more
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taking bets now
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>>64720739
hola-land takes it
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God why the fuck do clubs sell then resign players the next year its ridiculous
Utd sold Depay for £36m, bought him back for £51m
Madrid bought Morata back for £25m, sold him back to Juve for £30m
actually ridiculous.
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>>64720788
>miles
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post 'em
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>>64720739
France
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>>64720848
>LFB

Look for overlap?
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>>64720788
>Reminder that Spurs sold Robbie Keane to Liverpool and bought him back 6 months later
I mean it does happen too often in FM definitely but people who act like it never happens irl are just flat out wrong
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>>64720848
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>>64720868

cheers for the heads up mate, I actually want them as CWB's
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>>64720902
Example of capabilities
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>>64720916
>Cannot into tactics
>PortuvanGaal
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>>64720952
eh I just forgot to set them because I was building a more defensive formation before but then I thought fuck it I want possession

I can see this completely shitting itself though because >league 1
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>>64720848
this was a bit iffy but ok
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It's time to loan
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>>64720972
>managing Guimaraes
Intriguing.
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>>64720867
>defeated by Morocco
giggled
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>>64720969
>then I thought fuck it I want possession
>Peptugal
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>>64720972
>Guimarães

lel

here's mine
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>>64720848
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>>64721061
Like a wedge. Nice.
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why did my estimated value go down 30%? the club's status is better than ever and we aren't building anything major
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>>64721039
>all down the centre bus park

fucking hell lads stay classy
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>>64721061
it's like you're trying to lull the opposition to sleep
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>>64721100
after 4 matches we're 6 goals for, 3 conceded. I would settle for a truly boring game at some point soon.

>>64721083
Unfortunately we're not too good at actually passing, and the board won't give me any more money since it thinks being in the fourth division is for shitters despite it being 24th in the world (including the other three that I added).
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>bid 1.5 million for a player
>they want 2 mil
>sure why not

>TRANSFER STORY LEAKED
>Another team bids 900k
>they accept

what
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>>64721169
and he accepted their offer

I want to die
Fuck
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Rate my tictactocs
I still have no idea what role I want for DM, though
I want mine to stay back and cover for the CWB that is currently going up the pitch as the IF cuts inside to pose a danger towards the opposition goal
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>>64721282
I would change off the b2b for someone who will stay a bit further back in possession, you'll have plenty of other players forward.
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>>64721169
>>64721269
mirin consecutvie 69s
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http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-toe-poke/65/post/2781296/harry-kane-spurs-form-inspired-by-football-manager-stats

>Hurrikane
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>>64721169
>>Another team bids 900k
>>they accept
Three possible scenarios
1) They included a ton of clauses making the ultimate value at least the same as yours if not more
2) You are a biggish rep club and they figure they can afford to ask you for more but the player has been unsettled by transfer rumours meaning they are willing to accept less from certain teams that are not yet in negotiation because they know they will lose him and won't be able to bleed other teams for bigger sums of money.
3) Other team is substantially bigger than you or a favoured club of the player so whilst the club do not feel pressured to sell to you and will ask for larger sums they know refusing him a sale to that club will upset him so they are more willing to let him go there even if it does mean he goes for a smaller sum.
Also I guess a few other things like being a rival club, being in the same league, manager liking/disliking you/the other manager, existing agreement between clubs about transfers, all sorts that weigh into it.
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>>64721313
A CM(S) maybe? What about the AP and the DM?
I want a team that will stay in possession and try to dominate the match, maybe even press high up the pitch.
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>>64721422
How about that free transfer XI on the BBC eh?
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>team actually works together to score
nice
tactic is working

>>64721438
I would personally go with a CM(d) or BWM(s).
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>>64721468
CM(D) together with an Anchor Man seems a bit too defensive for my taste. BWM(S) seems like a better choice, however I do not have the right players for the role nor the money to buy a good player... Maybe if I sell someone in the meantime.
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>manure
yeah, made perfect sense to sack a manager for finishing 4th only to hire someone who got sacked from Arsenal for finishing 7th
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How do I get these buffoons to actually execute the counter
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>>64721546
cm(d) works by just sitting in the midfield when you're in possession, but basically the same as a cm(s) when you don't have the ball.

considering you'll have your three up front, plus the AP and two wing backs supporting them, I wouldn't feel as though you'd need another body up front and him doing nothing in midfield would actually be more beneficial than pushing forward (by drawing defenders out and providing an easy way to cross the ball to the other side of the pitch).

On the whole, the BWM would probably be the best bet as he would press high up the pitch, but do essentially the same as a cm(d) in offense.

I wouldn't bother selling anyone for it, just use an average midfielder who can make simple passes and easy tackles as a cm(d) and he should do well.

>>64721604
You would start by making a tactic that's not retarded.
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>>64721604
make a counter tictac
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>7/11 loan players

Now this is what I call football
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>>64721763
Dandy looking stylish with his yellow suit
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>>64721831
nice goals
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>>64721763
>15 instructions
what the fuck are you doing
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>>64720834
>>64720834
>>64720834
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damn, so close
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>>64721872
Playing sexy football, shabadadoo.
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>Dortmund and Man U agree to cut Januzaj loan short
His fall is almost as quick as his rise
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>tfw new uni
>tfw no longer neet
>tfw made friends
>tfw slowly becoming a normie
>tfw I'll soon be like Marq
>tfw will no longer be able to tribble

save me
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>>64722677
>A normie Kenyan

Disgusting
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>>64722677
>posting this image

it's too late kenya, you have been taken.
you are now consigned to only post in /cfb/ and never return to /trb/
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>>64722677
>Marq used to show girls his regens
>Kenya will show girls the goats he has slain
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>playmaker gets injured early in the game
>his replacement gets injured 20 minutes later during the same game
>replacement's replacement gets injured in training 2 days later
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>>64722917
Jurgen pls go
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TAKBIR
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>>64723370
kek
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You can't tell me that by the current definition of the offside rule that that Everton goal wasn't offside.
Refs shocking desu
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>>64723488
If he's not interfering with play, what's he doing on the pitch?
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>>64720848
I dominated ligue 2 in my first year using this, but I think my team is just too shit too do anything in ligue 1
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>You now remember when Ganso was the biggest cheese in FM
>He still hasn't escaped Brazil
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>>64723720
>tfw contemplate picking him up on every save, hoping I can save him
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>>64723720
he was never ever the biggest cheese you dumb fucking redditor
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>>64723720
He wasn't really ever cheese. I also remember him being ridiculously expensive.

He still has the same stats every year
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>>64723370
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How much time is this going to take away from my life? Tempted to start playing...
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>>64724038
all of it
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>>64724038
I'm casual as fuck.
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>it's a your players seemingly forget how to do anything match

My assman even had the audacity to claim they played 'very well'

They had 8 clear cut chances in the first half for fuck's sake
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>>64723370
Fucking leftist propaganda
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tfw you beat Mourinho's Chelsea in your 4th season 7-2 at Old Trafford with your B team

Kane
Depay Ozil Lozano
Knafi(Regen) Bazoer
Shaw Galloway Fosu-Mensah Luchkevych
Moutha Sebtaoui

Subs used: Kovacic for Fosu-Mensah, Bruno Fernandes for Knafi, Mario Fernandes for Luchkevych
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>>64725261
kys
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>>64725261
>B team
>Depay, Ozil, Kane, Shaw, Bazoer, Kovacic

shit niqqa
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>>64725261
>that
>B team

what the fuck, do you have like 20 Saudi sugar daddies
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Wew what a game
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>>64725448
Post Bismark
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>>64725519
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>>64725551
>He scored 5 goals on a final
>Yet he is this shit
Wew
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Nations' League is UEFA's best idea
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>>64725591
>>64725551
Clear he's just going to sink
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god, that smug pepe feel when you get slaughtered all game and then score with your only half chance
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>When you're getting roasted so bad even your nickname roasts you
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>>64724038

>How much time is this going to take away from my life? Tempted to start playing...

RIRIPIP
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>>64726906
>5k hours on FM12
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>>64726932
12 is good
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>>64726965
I know, but 5k hours is just wow.
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>>64726906
dayum, I thought my 3k hours on 13 was high
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>>64727009

did you fail to see the part where he said 12 is good?

>>64727114

12 is my drug.
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>>64727009
the game is 4 years old mate
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>goalkeepers injured for 5-6 months in practice

ok

OK
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>>64727171
was he hit by a car?
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>>64727217
this save makes me wish that car had killed me
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>>64727279

ayyyyeeeeee Panamabro alive and kicking sans coma
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>tfw have one tactic that works everywhere and it's wingerless
>tfw arriving at Sevilla and turfing Konoplyanka out immediately because he can't play AMC
>tfw fan backlash
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>>64727822
>not converting him to striker, centre mid and/or wing back
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>>64727904
he turns 30 in a few months and has one year left on his contract, better to cash in on him for £20m than wait on him to learn a new position
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>that one regen you bought for cheap you had no real hope for that turns out to be really good

Still has a star left in his potential too

Fucking hell
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Ripip career
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>>64728269
Ouch lad
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whats the position where you can never find a good player. where you settle for a 3 star and have 4+star guys everywhere else, and every time you lose you think it must have been because of that position?
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>>64728321
regista
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>>64728321
DM
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>>64728321
Ball playing CB

Honourable mention to wide midfielder
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>>64728321
wide mids
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how the fuck do I stop this card machine? the Sociedad game was my first in charge, he's gotten sent off 3 times in 13 games
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>>64728654
I dont uderstand the problem
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>>64728654
see
>>64729104
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>>64728654
Give him a pay raise for his hard work
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>>64729205
this
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>>64728654
Go hard or go home.
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>The creator
Collyer brothers seething right now
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>talks shit for no reason
>gets sacked after losing to us

My sides
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>>64729501
Chat Narrich get binned
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>>64729421
>played four matches including cup
>20+ fouls a game
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Is it worth adding to the collection? I noticed its on sale.
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>This crowd
>In Serie D

Nice loyal I like it
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>>64728654

sell him to another team in your league, laugh as he gets sent off twice a season against you trying to prove a point to his former club.
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>>64728654
Just edit his aggression to be a few points lower. That usually works for me.
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>>64730131
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>>64730131
>>
>this intake
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>>64730734

v normal looking to me
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>>64730783
its v shit m8
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>>64730811
yeah like most intakes
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>>64730811

exactly, what's your point?
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>>64730734
>Pep Bayern
>Tangaro Twat
>It's Obama
>Nikki Waifu
I think it's a good intake
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>>64730734
post Nikki Waifu and It's Obama
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>>64731035


>>64730837
>>64730861
maybe you guys dont even invest in youth coaching but for me that's pretty bad. I always expect a usable player at least.
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>>64731109
I invest heavily in youth facilities, scouting and investment and if I'm lucky I'll get one player I'll use once every two years
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>>64731035
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>>64731132
>I invest heavily in youth facilities, scouting and investment
>I invest heavily in investment
kek
youth coaching is the key
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>>64731225
Spain is cheese
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>>64731225
>159cm
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is there some option in the preferences i can check off to fix the abomination that is the tactics page?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_oHobvMlbU

soon
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Unbeaten at home in the league, come up against the "underdogs xD" and the memes flow
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>>64734161
Deserved imo
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>The creator of Football Manager has apologised to Tottenham striker Harry Kane for his low statistics in the computer game and says Premier League players contact him to try to boost their ratings.
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>>64731225

you do realize that intake quality is relative to the quality of your squad in the first place, right?

eventually your whole squad is going to be near world class, and then no matter how much you've put into youth recruitment, youth coaching, training facilities, and scouting, your intakes will be dogshit more often than not. much, much more often.
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Should I swap left for right
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>tfw back in the land of the living after being hospitalized
So how are things going?
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>>64735981
What happened?
We had to make threads ourselves
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>tfw you sign a player for way over the odds to replace a first team player that his on his way out
>tfw you find a better and cheaper replacement a few months later
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>>64735981
New threads have been made too slow.
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>>64735998
>>64736491
I don't want to talk about it but I once told Morz the symptoms but it is kinda life threatening so I have to be hospitalized.
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>20th of the league hasn't beaten anyone in centuries
>1st
>obviously lose
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>>64723370
>>
How long before a contract is up can you offer someone a contract without going through their club?
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>>64736753
6 months or something, it starts around the last five days of december. You'll get a reminder if you put the guy on your shortlist I think.
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>>64736546
Grats on not dying HC. Have a qt
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Here I thought I couldn't hate Jorge Jesus
But fuck, his attitude is unbearable.
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>>64728354
>>64728337
>can't find a good DM
lmaoing at ur skills
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DoF found me this, should I bang? For 2M

>>64728321
CWBs in general
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>>64736778
Strange, it's Jan and the contracts end in June but I can't do it, is the rule different between two English clubs?
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>>64736945
I don't think so. Approach to sign under contract should be available.
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>>64736832
dm != regista

>>64736945
english clubs can't approach any other player under contract with an english club.
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>>64736994
That explains it, thanks. I thought it was a 6 month deal for everyone
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