http://www.businessinsider.com/brazil-world-cup-stadiums-one-year-later-2015-5
What's the deal with FIFA making countries waste all this money on stadiums that they don't even use after the WC Tournament? Granted some are being used but there's some that's already in decay and being used as a bus depot LEL.
On top of that the corrupt FIFA only asked for 8 and HUEHUEs built 12 footy arenas. Thoughts?
The local BR leagues, divisions and life after the tournament should of been taken into account. Some people are retarded with money that's not even theirs
3 billion in public money kek
Why do you only blame FIFA? The Brazilians in charge knew what they were getting into, it allowed them to give shady contracts to their friends and all sorts of things. This is why many people were protesting
This is why you should only hold the world cup in the US and Europe.
Most other countries simply don't have the ~14 stadiums with sufficient capacity standing around and be useful after the world cup.
>>64592615
>fifa give the wc to a country for a nice bribe
>government gives the stadium construction to their construction friends for a nice bribe
>the construction companies build the stadiums and make great profit margins paid by tax payer money
>if the government wants more bribe money and more profit for their contruction friends they build more stadiums than required
>the tax payer pays for construction and maintenance and makes no use of it
>they end up abandoned
>fifa is richer, government is richer, construction companies are richer, the tax payer is poorer
>>64592677
we do
>>64592677
Some stadiums are hit and some of the new ones are big misses. Atleast Brazil has a decent league to support some of them. Others just look retarded in hindsight. But when you build stadiums in the middle of no where what do you expect?
http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup/4/blog/post/2492597/brazil-world-cup-stadiums-symbol-of-dubious-legacy
>>64592677
Please make exception for Japan, shots of waifu in the stands makes everyone happy :3
>>64592690
no one really wants to go to mexico though. except for places like cancun and puerto vallarta. and your neighbours avoid all of your border areas like plague
>>64592615
Construction firms give R$ 100.000.000 as campaign donations.
Federal Government gives them 4 extra stadiums
Both win and the plebs get fucked once again
>>64592690
I didn't say all other countries, just most.
The joint Japan/Korea bid was also alright in terms of stadiums being used after the cup, at least compared to what 'exotic' world cups usually lead to.
Never ever trust a French-speaking international organization.
They're universally corrupt
>>64592650
Corrupt Brazilian government + corrupt FIFA = this problem
>>64592729
MSF?
The Brasilia stadium will gonna get a team soon but the amazonia one it was a mistake from the start.
>>64592615
it's just brazil being brazil
proper countries can make a use of those stadiums, see Switzerland, Austria, Germany, even fuckign Poland
>>64592708
but you are wrong, mexico recives over 10 million more international tourists than canada every year, so yes people do want to come to mexico, you are just a secluded snownigger faggot that really believes he will die if he ever steps outsude of its frozen tundra
>>64592767
Even south Africa is still using their stadiums. They aren't being filled to the max with fans, but at least they aren't being left to dilapidate.
>>64592743
International Red Cross too
>let's build stadiums in the middle of nowhere and away of all the biggest teams and greatest markets
I mean, Amazonia? really? at least teams with a national fanbase try to send their games in these places.
>>64592800
If they are in any way related to the American red cross, then they've got blood on their hands too
>>64592785
>Even south Africa is still using their stadiums
hardly at all, and with attendances of less than 10% of their capacity. They are a huge money sink in maintenance, they simply can't sustain themselves. South africa is in the same situation as brazil, and many other olympic/worldcup hosts.
>>64592806
Estadio Nacional Mane Garrincha
Arena da Amazonia, Manaus
Arena Pantanal, Cuiaba
Those three alone were ridiculous from the start. They still don't have pro teams. Whatever bullshit side that plays in all three on a normal basis attract 1000 fans each.
These are all new constructions
Anyone have pictures of the Greece olumpic stadiums with overgrowth?
I guess BR never heard of expansion teams
Only white and northeastern Asian countries should be allowed to host the Olympics and World Cup.
>>64592907
What about Italy or spain?
>>64592842
>and with attendances of less than 10% of their capacity
wew
kinda like some of our 2011 Copa America stadiums
>>64592907
You need to stop saying that crap. Just align stadiums with good local teams and crowds. It's not hard
>>64592859
Portugal also fell for this meme by building stadiums in places with no teams for Euro 2004, more than half became moneysinks in an already poor as fuck country.
>>64592708
Bro, Mexico is a great place to visit, and not just the resort cities. World cup there would be cool.
>>64592806
rio de janeiro and sao paulo should have had 2 venues each for the wc
>>64592930
Why didn't you retards put liga teams in them?
>>64592927
this, HUE just went full retarded building stadiums in the middle of nowhere and shit
It can happen anywhere. When Chicago had the bid for the olympics, they had a plan for a brand new olympic stadium, with no plans for the future use. The mayor and his cronies just wanted to dip into that taxpayer money
>>64592924
it happens to almost every major sports event host. And I'm sure it's the same in plenty of european/asian/american countries. They simply try to hide it as much as possible, claim they are still benefiting from hosting the event 5-10 years after and only admit it was a failure when it's impossible to deny.
Can't wait to see the Qatar stadiums host games with 20 people attending after the world cup
>>64593112
Yep, Salt Lake City was a disaster
Atlanta too, though their olympics were considerably cheaper, both cities and their respecricw states are still feeling effects of all that financial loss.
Sure they found permanent futures for the facilities but that hasn't changed the ridiculous losses
>>64593070
i dont get it, preetty much all of the fscilities for the 2011 guadalajara pan american games are still in use, pan american baseball stadium is now used for los charros de jalisco (wich didnt ecisted until 2014), the pan american rugby stadium is now used for american football, so is the field hockey one, the only place with problems are the pan american villas wich where to be sold as apartments after the games but theres some legal issues there keeping them from being sold
>you will never be a corrupt politician who uses the people's tax money to become rich and powerful via pork contracts for events
>you will never get away with it
why even live
>>64593070
it was even better in madrid:
>they applied for the olympics 3? consecutive times, one after the other, for like ~10 years
>meanwhile they started building plenty of shiet for the olympics they had not won yet
>by the time they applied for the last olympics plenty of the olympic infrastructure was already old and needed repairs/renovations and it was mostly unused
>they didn't win the olympics after the huge money sink and ridiculous 3 time bid
>constructors got paid to build shit
>government got their bribes from constructors
>IOC got their bribes from spanish government
>there were no olympic games in madrid
>tax payer paid for it all (still paying maintenance) and got nothing in exchange
lel
>>64593051
They had some sense and will use three of them for the olympics
>>64592615
FIFA asked for 8 stadiums, our former president Lula wanted and built 12
>>64593011
We did, its just that some were in places where the teams were legit garbage like Algarve, Leiria and Aveiro, bottom of the division/2nd division teams with like 100 supporters for 30k capacity stadiums.
>>64593070
Olympics are a different beast because in reality, virtually no city outside of maybe New York, London and Tokyo could possibly utilize all the state-of-the-art facilities current Olympic games require.
This system of just giving the games to any big city worked 100 years ago when you just needed some stadiums and a pool, but nowadays it's just impractical.
Which is why there's talk about no longer confining the Olympics to a single city, but a whole country. Sad for the olympic spirit with the olympic village and such but what can you do.
>>64592690
Fuck off.
>>64593205
>tfw no more dreams of gymnastics teams lodging across the street from the bodybuilders
JUST
>>64593284
How does that happen
>>64593307
bad politics
>>64593284
UFCK
>>64593197
Why is your former president so corrupt?
>>64592905
Our leagues don't work as franchise-system. a new team can be created at any moment by it's owners and start to play from the lowest division but the problem is:
>no fanbase to attend the games
>without a solid fanbase not enough money to pay the stadium rent in these places
In fact those cities have a pro-team but pretty small to play in such expensive stadiums.
>>64592690
You know what Mexico needs to build?
>>64593427
They need to build me some tacos al pastor, it's lunch time
>>64592615
Why are you blaming FIFA? We don't have the money to host a WC so we don't ask them to do it. It's easy enough and entirely Brazil's fault.
>>64593427
hey man leave erbschen out of this
>>64593268
the good old days
Use stadiums for other sports too , like cricket and rugby lol
Fucking weddings & birthday party's are patethic
>>64593473
you call him that? im not a big futbol fan but ive heard chicharito finally made it out of the bench and is actually doing a good job
>>64593545
He's about to pick up a bundes golden boot. Just shows you how shit that league is
>>64593427
A WALL
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>>64593545
Nobody calls him that, just a literal translation of Chicharito.
And yeah he's doing very well. 22 apps and 19 goals, 5 of those in the CL.
>>64593572
Nah he's way off, however if he joined Leverkusen in the summer break instead of after the start of the season he might be competing for it.
Also he's quality, United and Real just never utilized him properly.
>>64593572
is he really that bad? i mean a lot of people hate him but if he gets picked by big clubs constantly even when he isnt the main star he has to be doing something right
>>64593469
Now you see why there was protests? Could of used that money for these >>64592859 towards something else and still meet FIFA requirements
>>64593545
That's their translation of little pea
>>64593654
I better see a serious inform FIFA 16 card for him
>>64593539
NFL IN THE JUNGLE FUCKING WHEN
>>64593768
What would the team name be?
>>64593608
noice, bro is from Guadalajra and its always cool when a homeboy makes it
>>64592627
>should of
>>64593829
the gauchos?
>>64593861
Oh I'm sorry that my president isn't as crupput as yours. I can't even use your stupid ducking stadiums in FIFA 16
>>64593829
Amazons
>>64593656
it's not that bad, he's probably just a shut in white guy who doesn't watch any league but EPL.
>>64593910
>should of
>crupput
Take a break homie
>>64593768
they are too busy sucking on the brits cock trying to make them like football, at last it seems that they will bring back nfl games to mexico, they havent done so since 2007
>>64594011
I don't even get why they're trying to appeal to the brits when they have rugby. NFL will never be taken serious outside of North America
>>64594069
It's Goodell's vanity project
He wants to be THE guy in charge when the NFL expands to England and when LA gets a team again.
USA should have its own soccer world cup ran by the NFL and MLB commisioners
>>64594069
they know they have an already big and established fanbase in mexico, and one of the biggest sports venues in the world, any game they play here will get crowded, and if they bring either the steelers or the cowboys the franchises with the biggest fanbases here they would cash in triple of whatever they do with the jaguars at wembley
>>64594248
I don't know why we don't stick a team in Mexico City. Its not like the Cartel is THAT dangerous to be able to take on the NFL. The timezone difference won't be retarded like it would be with England.
Reasons that the 2014 FIFA world cup stadiums are empty
1. Brazilians are black and black people can't swim so they are scared the stadiums will become flooded with Brazilian tears again
2. Brazilians can't trust themselves to go into a place with advertising boards everywhere without stealing them to make favela houses
3. The stadiums are too high up and make the players on the pitch look like termites which makes the Brazilian chimpanzees hungry so they have to go home
4. Brazilians can't go through the stadium turnstiles without getting overexcited and confusing them with branches because they are stupid monkeys
5. Brazil will always be poor because trying to become rich involves turning a corner economically and the last Brazilian who tried to turn a corner was Senna and he ended up dead in a wall
90001. FIFA did something wrong.
FIFA is pure and incorruptible and I will not hear this bullshit. The world cup was given to Brazil and they wasted it. FIFA did not make them waste money. If you have a party for christmas and make too many Yule Logs and end up throwing all of the Yule Logs away you do not blame your grandparents for attending Christmas. This is the same but the stadiums are probably less secure structurally than a room temperature chocolate log because Brazilians are pathetic monkeys.
>>64594333
>last Brazilian who tried to turn a corner was Senna and he ended up dead in a wall
savage
>>64592677
Hold it wherever, just tell the host country to build functional stadiums. They don't need to always outdo the previous event for some stupid reason. Let the athletes make the magic.
Same goes for the Olympics, it wouldn't be so balls hard finding hosts if they didn't all feel the need to blow the budget building brand new Iberian facilities. A bare bones safe, functional luge track isn't that expensive
What drives me the most mad is 1) choosing Manaus instead of Belém provided they decided to have all regions participating -- Belém has 2 major teams that have actual local support (Paysandu and Remo, plus Tuna Luso), no one knows any relevant team from Manaus at all. 2) building a new stadium in São Paulo when Morumbi and Pacaembu already exist. 3) Making a new stadium in Recife when Arruda and Ilha do Retiro already exist. 4) Constructing a stadium in goddamn Cuiabá.
Most of this shit could have been avoided if we didn't have a weak, small and lazy opposition. Never do away with your two-party systems, amerifats and britburkas. Seriously.
>>64594333
>the last Brazilian who tried to turn a corner was Senna and he ended up dead in a wall
Duuuuuuude
>>64594333
I can't help but feel like someone got a Swiss proxy just to make this post.
>and the last Brazilian who tried to turn a corner was Senna and he ended up dead in a wall
kek
>>64594386
Sorry m8 our system is already basically 1.5 parties, we are fucked
>>64594299
now a franchise in mexico does sounds far off (although a london one is downright retarded), i just want to have the international series back, shit maybe even expand it to both guadalajara and monterrey but conaidering stadiums on those cities have a capacity of barely 50k i dont know if the nfl would find it attractive
>>64594333
why you gotta be like that
brazil was a good cup for switzerland
Why can't I use any of these stadiums in EA FIFA?
I think FIFA should test the waters in a lower profile, but still soccer crazed country, and not require to build new stadiums. Put the World Cup in Serbia one time. Play some games in a venue that holds 6,000 instead of 60,000. Take the game back to it's roots and play a world class match on a pitch with a fucking barn next to it.
It would be the best World Cup of all time.
>>64594610
>this flag
>this post
>>64594644
>mfw a kraut ate sausage near me
>>64594610
Hold a World Cup in the Netherlands.
Guaranteed cosiness.
>>64594596
Because EA does the bare minimum and only models a few stadiums per country
>>64594672
What's wrong with sausage
>>64594716
Hell yeah. I'm into it.
Have Spain play South Korea here.
>>64594822
that cant be a pro stadium, right?
>hues invested $3 billion in 7-1
is there a greater cucking in the history of sports?
>>64594386
and destroying maracanã. omfg i hate new maraca
>>64595089
That time Odysseus came home in disguise and Penelope had an archery contest to determine who would get their dick wet next. Odysseus won though Penelope didn't beleive it was really him but they fugged anyway. She's a sloot
>>64592987
they could have just built 8 new stadiums instead of 12
>>64595253
But then how would the government officials be able to give corrupt construction contracts to their friends and get a cut
did brazil make money for hosting the world cup after all is said in done?
>>64595459
It cost brazil 15 billion
The cup brought in 4 billion in revenue, but only a minor portion of that revenue actually stays in Brazil
>>64593398
He's a commie mafioso wannabe with delusions of grandeur who legit wants to turn Latin America into the next USSR.
>>64595459
No, not even close. But the world cup is a tiny part of the cause of primary deficit that has lead to recession.
R$26bi spent across 7 years versus an -official- deficit of R$32bi just in the presidential election year of 2014, and an estimated deficit of R$120bi in 2015 (big part of it, ~R$70bi, should belong to masked 2014 budget).
>>64592677
We could, if they didn't build them in meme places.
>>64593885
>the gauchos
>literally 4km away from gauchos
>>64593315
And a lot more ( resource based economy, extremely bureaucratic, weak middle class etc.)
>>64594333
I must say that I was thinking that your post was a really weak banter until you stepped up your game with the "the last Brazilian who tried to turn a corner was Senna and he ended up dead in a wall" BTFOing
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>>64592924
u wot m8? Argentina spend almost nothing in stadiums, except for the Kempes but Talleres and Belgrano attendace is almost 70% every week
>>64593167
some countries/cities just go full retard
>>64595716
>>64593398
>considering Lula as corrupt
>>64594333
>Brazil will always be poor because trying to become rich involves turning a corner economically and the last Brazilian who tried to turn a corner was Senna and he ended up dead in a wall
