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Can anyone who understands cricket explain to an American how this man was able to so completely dominate the sport? And why his abilities haven't been seen in any player since?
>>64587863
he had a homegrown unorthodox technique due to hitting a golf ball with a stump for hours for fun as a kid
>>64587978
It's just that in every other major sport, there are players every decade who are just as good as the best before, if not better.
Baseball, soccer, golf, tennis, basketball, etc. all have players who can be considered GOATs throughout the history of the sport.
It seems like Bradman is the only undisputed GOAT in any sport.
>>64587863
>how this man was able to so completely dominate the sport?
Because he was a war dodger and all the cricketers were enlisted for the world war. He was the only man in the world who took cricket seriously at that time.
>>64588647
Sounds like some one is buttrefridgerated. All true goats war dodged. Jimmy Hendrix. Elvis. U just puddi m9.
>>64588062
>It seems like Bradman is the only undisputed GOAT in any sport.
he isn't the undisputed GOAT though
>>64588647
So Ali should renounce his titles?
>>64588705
Of course he is
>>64588705
kill yourself Pajeet
>>64587978
Don't forget he would hit it against a corrugated iron fence with a wicket as well, meaning he had been honing his reactions for fun for years.
>>64587863
To put it in Americlap terms, imagine halving the girth of a baseball bat and using that to hit a golf ball against a corrugated fence, meaning it's trajectory is in constant flux (forever curveball, weird pitches and angles etc.)
>>64588647
When people get to a certain level of skill and talent, they can dodge even war to continue their craft they are that good. Please think about this on your next walk to your designated shitting street Gupta.
>gets out for 0 in his last bat
>needed to score 1 run to have an average of 100
Biggest choke artist in history
>>64588727
haven't seen that macro in years
>>64588062
Anyone who thinks Gretzky isn't the GOAT of hockey is a retard and shouldn't be listened to
>>64588738
that makes it more special anon
>>64588647
there was no international competition for 4 years during WW2, and no state cricket in Australia.
He was kept out of hard wartime jobs because he was a national treasure.
Then after the war he got some kind of muscular problem because his childhood exposure to shitty 20th century pesticides, and couldn't even shave himself at times.
>>64588738
he needed 4 runs you absolute pleb
>>64588763
Like that changes anything
>>64588738
I've never gotten out for 0. I'm better than that faggot
>>64588062
Because he was an AusGOD
>>64588763
the fact you didn't know that proves you know nothing about cricket though and your opinion should probably be discarded
>>64588647
Indiabro is correct
>>64588785
those cookies look delicious
War dodger. Would be exposed worse than captain Meme Shit if he was playing today
>>64588782
The fact that you can't even quote the correct post you're replying to, shows that you should go back to Reddit.
The fact that he dodged active service during WW2 is irrelevant to cricket as his best cricketing years were the 30s. There was virtually no international cricket played from 1940-45. This doesn't mean he wasn't a coward and generally shitty person though. But then, most Australians are.
>>64588803
The fact you know how reddit works explains a lot about you
>>64588798
This is the stupidest argument
>Hannibal would be exposed as a bad military leader if he was put in control of the US army today
>>64588813
>he fact that he dodged active service during WW2 is irrelevant
He was able to practice and hone his skill, while the others got shot at and killed.
>invalided out of the army because shit eyesight and literally no feeling in his right hand
>still GOAT
top kek how can people actually be salty about this?
>>64588827
If Hannibal was so great, how come he couldn't defeat Rome and had to an hero?
>>64588824
That's the best retort you could come up with?
>>64588838
Carthage wouldn't send backup
And he didn't kill himself
>>64588830
He was basically a physical wreck from 1941. I don't think he was having cheeky net sessions while his mates died in Libya.
>>64588737
>>64588762
Bradman-the war dodger is a just a meme reply lads, I was joking. I respect him, but having never seen him play it's difficult to rate him.
>>64587863
Similar to the Babe Ruth mythos I think.
>>64588867
>he didn't spend his christmas and boxing day chatting with his grandpa about watching bradman play
step up senpai
From the look of the photo he was probably one of the GOAT at yelling at the colored help
>>64588878
Ted Williams and Barry Bonds were just as good
Test
>>64588889
ty cobb was better than all of them
Alright it's time to debunk the myth that is Bradwoman. These hard-hitting truth bombs will trigger the Ausfailian Cucket Bogans (ACB's) into a tirade of fury to the point that they will be frothing at the mouth.
First, Bradwoman is the best batsman of all-time, but he is NOT twice as good as the next batsman like his "average" would suggest. Essentially, Bradwoman made a career out of statpadding and exploiting the spirit of the game that was prevalent in the era.
You need to understand the historical context to gain an insight into what a deplorable human bean Bradwoman was. He played in an era where cricket was an amateur sport and truly was the "gentlemen's game". Essentially every single team was full of Brendon McCullum-tier Mr le nice guys. Bradmanlet not only repeatedly disrespected (and pioneered the destruction of) the spirit of cricket, but he exploited it to make himself look better. There was one famous incident where based, elite and muscular Keith Miller decided he would stop bowling bouncers at an English tail-ender because the bloke had just survived WWII and didn't need to be killed playing Paki-paddle. This made Bradmanlet chimpout at the realisation that he was the only person on the planet who took this "spoort" seriously. You see Bradwoman had dodged service in WWII and so was totally out of touch with the social mores of the era.
As a captain and player Bradmanlet jeopardised the teams performance to enhance his own. During the New Years Ashes Test in 1937, rain ruined the pitch overnight. Bradwoman decided that he didn't want to bat on it because it would ruin his average so he instead batted himself at 11 and played for the not out.
Bradwoman was the only "professional" in an amateur era and deliberately sacrificed his teams performance in order to pad his own average.
>>64588881
My grandpa on dad's side is a self-confessed cricket history tragic. Learned so much about the game from him.
>>64588992
>he is NOT twice as good as the next batsman like his "average" would suggest
There are people who averaged over 60 and many who averaged 50+, so his average doesn't suggest that anyway.
>During the New Years Ashes Test in 1937, rain ruined the pitch overnight. Bradwoman decided that he didn't want to bat on it because it would ruin his average so he instead batted himself at 11 and played for the not out.
This was a very common tactic at the time, batting orders were often reversed so that uncovered pitches had time to recover from the rain. Literally every captain of that era did it.
>Bradwoman was the only "professional" in an amateur era
He wasn't the only one, but you're right that it was still a mostly amateur era (although pretty much all the elite players got cushy jobs from cricket fans so they could focus on playing rather than work).
>>64588992
He went in at 11 to give the pitch the maximum possible time to dry out you fucking stupid cunt.
>>64589063
The guy is exaggerating anyway, he only moved himself down to 7. Incidentally it was the turning point of the Ashes, Australia came back from 2-0 down to win the series 3-2.
>>64588062
Hockey has an alltime goat to tho.
Gretzky will alway be the goat in Hockey.
For fuck sakes the man has a Jersey retired.
>>64587863
>human bean
stopped reading
>>64589123
meant for >>64588992
Its tough to compare historical greats with modern counterparts. Different training, development, equipment etc.
>Bradman or Tendulkur?
>Ali or Tyson?
>Pele or Messi?
>Chamberlain or Jordan?
>>64588992
elite truth bombs right here.
>>64589188
>Tendulkur
bait
isnt even the best player of his generation
>>64589216
literally scored all over the world.
>>64589233
as did the player better than him, Lara
what's even better is that Lara's best innings didn't come in wasted losing efforts, and he had a far inferior team than Sachin did
>>64589216
>most ODI runs
>most test runs
>most centuries
Pretty straightforward stuff.
>>64589233
POO
IN
LOO
>>64589248
>ZERO triple tons
>>64589241
West Indies of the 90s was as good if not better than India in the 90s. Nobody bothered watching rest of the match if Sachin got out early, he literally carried the team both in wins and losses.
>what's even better is that Lara's best innings didn't come in wasted losing efforts
This is just a meme reply. You don't realise how many games he has single handedly won for India because he took the game away from the start of the innings and made the wins look easy.
>>64589252
>that flag
>this sport
>>64589272
>one of only 2 batsmen with 200 in a ODI
>>64588813
t. statscunt
>>64589296
One of 4 batsmen. Sachin, Gayle, Guptill and Rohit X2.
>>64589314
Not even close.
know your stuff pal
>>64589326
My bad.
>zero Australians
>>64589272
>muh 300
So you're saying Memecullum is better than Tendulkur? Pure fucking casual detected.
>>64588992
this LITERALLY makes me poorious after years on /sp/
Bradman was GOAT without ANY cricket training whatsoever. Literally everything he did was self-taught. He also had shitty fucking eyesight that went undiagnosed for years until he tried to join the air force because of the horrible health care at the time.
If Bradman played in the modern era he WOULD have been identified as a talent at an early age and have significant investment made into his development. He WOULD have also been identified as severely short sighted and WOULD have worn contacts for his whole career. He also WOULD be using a modern bat that would turn a half assed drive into a boundary every time.
Yes, he was a cunt but he was also really fucking good
>>64588881
>tfw my grandpa is a causal who unironically kept on demanding McGrath to be dropped
>>64589372
SEETHING. Only time McGrath should ever be dropped is if he edged one to first slip on 99*
>>64589326
missing Sehwag
>>64589347
>being proud of playing on babby tier grounds
>>64589361
>being this poorious
>>64589233
Lara>Ponting>Tendulkar tbqh
>>64589418
the fuck you on about idiot
>>64589429
Well, stats and cricket experts would disagree with you. But you are a guy on the Internet, so we'll go with your baseless opinion.
>>64589446
happy to drop knowledge bombs on you at any time
>>64589456
I'll drop cock bombs on ur moms son
>>64589372
McGrath was shit, and your granddad sounds like a top bloke, unlike his weakling grandson.
it was just the era he played in
if he were to play now he wouldn't even avg 40
and sangakarra is better than all your larapontingtendulkar talk too
>>64589424
P O O
>>64589509
Sanga is pretty based.
>>64589248
right then, Steve Smith is better than Kane Williamson
Pretty straightforward stuff
>>64589627
What's your point?
>>64589648
stats aren't everything
Smith will score more runs than Williamson, that doesn't make him the better player.
>>64589627
Chanderpaul is also almost as good as Lara
>>64589662
m8 if smith continues the form he's been in for the past year and a bit he's be close to goat, let alone worse than a once in a year nz player
>>64589678
back to Fox Sports' Facebook page lad
>>64589662
It's OK to have favourites mate. Don't take it personally. Tendulkur is by no means my favourite player. At all. But he is objectively the best player of his generation for the majority of those who follow cricket. And yes, you could definitely argue that, at this point, Smith is the better batsman. I don't think he will be at the end of the day when both are retired.
>>64589495
>walk-up start in any all-time Test XI
>shit
Pick only one
>>64589694
>bait
>taking it willingly
you seemed to have picked both
>>64589691
>he is objectively the best player of his generation for the majority of those who follow cricket.
>>64589707
handsome muscular Big Strong Americans on dropping elite and intelligent truthbombs watch
>>64589711
i know you guys only follow one sport and he's your god, but from anyone who has any objectivity he's not
top 5 only
>>64589691
Kallis had a higher average, and he could bowl.
>>64589707
Forced persona guy, you don't know a fucking thing about the sport. You are truly painful. Williamson is only 25 and isn't close to his peak. He's only just become captain and will easily end up the best player from NZ of this generation. Get your head out of Aussie's ass you awful faggot.
>>64589724
Niggers
>>64588992
ACBs on pooicide watch
>>64589730
>being this poorious that you didn't get the joke
>>64589724
So now we have
>Kallis>Lara>Ponting>McCullum>Wlliamson>Smith>Tendulkur
Have I missed anything?
Hi, newcomers to /cric/! It seems you have stumbled upon our nifty old sport.
You're probably wondering: what the hell are these guys in whites doing? Why are they playing with a paddle? Is this a new meme? But did you know that cricket has been played for over 200 years? Wow! That's really something. Here's something that might help you understand the game more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_cricket
And while you're here, it's best if we introduce you to some of /cric/'s finest memes so you don't feel left out :) Here are a few of the classics:
>Is David Warner related to Shane Warner?
Referring to 2 famous Australian cricketers, this is a humorous play on words of current Australian batsman David Warner and Australian spin legend Shane Warne (spin is a form of bowling that you'll come to know and love).
The similar personalities of the two players also makes this amusing, as it's likely that they are probably related!
>Will Smith score a century?
Another delightful play on words. Here we're referring to current Australian captain Steven Smith, and the question is whether he'll score a century. However, this question is always answered with "Will Smith is an actor m8", a reference to popular African-American actor Will Smith, someone I'm sure you're familiar with!
>Daniel
Daniel is a cricket fan from New Zealand well known for his idiosyncrasies, such as his worship of progressive rock, the English County Championship and infatuation with average Slavic girls (surely a step down from the babes you have in Europe or America, haha).
It is common to reply to New Zealander posts with "hi daniel", as a reference to /cric/'s most popular Kiwi.
>Holly or Ellyse?
This is an ongoing debate as to who is the better looking female cricketer: Australia's Holly Ferling and Ellyse Perry (who represents Australia in both cricket and soccer - wow!)
There's so much more in /cric/ to offer! Stick around!
>>64589748
There's no joke there, idiot.
>>64589762
his Steve Smith GOAT gimmick has clearly been a joke since day 1
>Turdulkar
Wasn't even the best in his team during his time
Sehwag is unironically the more complete batsman
>>64589724
>average
username?
>>64589766
ffs get your faggot head out of his arse while we're at it
>>64589769
Sehwag is pretty based.
>>64589769
>le have a swing man
>good
Very Very Shit was better
>>64589766
No, you see, jokes are amusing. Parroting Australian shitposters is pathetic.
>>64589792
>this flag
>this post
PP is defined by copying mattposting
>>64589784
>Very Very Shit
>14 years later
>still LITERALLY SEETHING over that innings
jej
Shane Watson Defence Force, how can you defend that?
reminder Bradwoman literally sent his number 11 to bat on a minefield and waited like a coward until the pitch got good just to protect his precious average.
http://strawpoll.me/6419056
http://strawpoll.me/6419056
http://strawpoll.me/6419056
>>64589784
>laxativeman
>not being carried the entire time
sure thing buhz
>>64589550
>>64589691
>he is objectively the best player of his generation for the majority of those who follow cricket
Yeah because the majority of cricket followers are Indian. Thinking Tendulkur is the best of his generation is not an unreasonable opinion to have but that's a shit argument for justifying it.
>>64589784
laxman only GOATed against >us
>>64587863
please watch our sport
>>64588992
>t. Pajeet
>>64590045
it's statscunt's inferiority poomplex at work
OP here, and from what I got reading this thread, is he a case like Pele? A great player playing in an era where the competition was terrible compared today.
Still even with all of the stuff on the side to preserve his average, the fact that he has an average 40 above what is considered outstanding is just a gap in skill that, like others said, is really only comparable to Gretzky's points gap. (Even though I think Mario Lemieux is better)
>>64590096
the competition was good back then and the game was taken very seriously too
>>64590096
Pele rarely played against the best in the world and is often not considered the best player on those dominant Brazil teams he was part of. Many people would argue he was not the best player of his era.
Bradman was undoubtedly the most dominant player of his era and in the history of cricket no one has been so dominant relative to their competition at the time. How he would compare directly to e.g. the modern era is completely subjective and up for debate.
>>64590096
Ignore all Australian replies.
He played in an era where everyone had a day job and he was the only autist who take the game seriously.
>>64590189
he had a day job too, and it wasn't uncommon for players to get massive cheques for good performance, which meant that most of them worked part time
>>64587927
Literally made no sense
>>64590096
honestly it;s impossible to compare players between eras because of how different the game, the pitches, the bats and the players are these days
Bradman would have likely had trouble against guys like the Four Horsemen of the Apocalyse, Lillee and Thomo, Akram and Kahn, Lee, McGrath, Gillespie, Steyn, Warne and Muralitheran to name a few, but he would have been a much better player himself too because of stuff like >>64589361
Regardless, he was so far above the rest of the competition through nothing but natural talent, which is impressive in its own right regardless of the class of player at the time. He was a guy who taught himself everything about cricket by himself in the middle of the bush, and would play in mens teams at the age of 12, while most of the current test players would have considered a 30 in Under 13s to be a good score at that age.
Given how popular cricket was at the time and the lack of any other remotely comparable performances, it is safe to say that he was exceptional, especially given that so many of his records still stand today.
>>64587927
yeah that picture makes no sense is this a ruse
>>64590679
>>64590471
please watch our sport
>>64590679
>First developed in Seattle
you tell me
tbqh i have 0 knowledge of cricket but if this guy became GOAT by "practicing a lot for fun as a kid", cricket is a scrub ass sport for sure.
NBA guys are "practicing a lot for fun" 100% as well as playing competitively from the time they are kids and yet only a few guys are upper echelon enough to be in the GOAT conversation,even though the nba has been around for 60+ years now. What are the qualifications to become a professional cricket player aside from love of the game and knowledge of the rules? Physical strength, endurance and hand-eye co-ordination? Because it sounds like you guys wouldn't stand a chance in hell if USA, Chinese or Russian athletes actually gave a flying fuck about your sport.
>>64590700
please watch our sport it's very athletic and elite
>>64590702
just look at this coordination wow what a catch please watch our sport
>>64590702
Without having any idea what the hell I'm looking at, this looks like a sport which is somehow even less demanding than golf. What the hell do you actually do? Is it like croquet or something where you guys just play around like fancy gentlemen? Or is there an actual physical component?
>>64590715
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_cricket
>>64590714
Friendo this looks like a gangly black man with a strange gait hurling a small ball at a configuration of white metal protruding from the ground, while a man in a hazmat suit with an oversized spanking paddle swings his paddle at the ball, while another hazmat worker and a man in a Curious George costume look on. The ball appears to be hit with the spanking paddle?
>>64590730
pretty accurate.
>>64590720
Sheeeit nigga do u really aspect me to read all dat?
What's the point to the game? Do you run faster than the other guy? Do you hit the ball farther? Do you hit the ball into a certain spot? Do you try to get your player to reach a spot before the other player? Do you try to hit the ball farther than others? The fuck is the point families?
>>64590715
test cricket is LITERALLY the most demanding sport in the world
>>64590700
dodging bullets and robbing liquor stores isn't a sport.
>>64590740
please watch our sport
>>64590700
>NBA
>hand eye coordination
lmao all it takes to be GOAT in that shit sport is to be tall
>>64590740
The chucker has to knock the wibbles out of the ground before the other knocker can run 2 lengths of the strip. If a fieldsman can return the ball to the umpire in time, the knocker checks out. When 3 knockers are out, the two captains flip a coin to see who knocks next.
>>64590740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg2iBBMsY4w
>>64590748
No, but Basketball, Baseball, Martial Arts, Weightlifting, Jumping, Running, Swimming and Hockey are all sports and they're all dominated by people who are from those 3 countries for the most part. Pretty much all dominated by the USA, except Weightlifting (Russia mostly), Martial Arts (lots of places) and Hockey(snowconeworld) tbqh senpai. This sport seems like it's really only allowed to continue to exist in its current form because american blacks and crazy russian/chinese people haven't figured out that they could totally rek it yet.
PLEASE WATCH OUR SPORT I AM BEGGING YOU
>>64590782
Big Strong America: the post
Too bad Goosey isn't around anymore because he would actually bother arguing with you
>>64590793
krazykrejza is LITERALLY typing a poorious reply as we speak
>>64590765
This actually makes sense. Thanks. It looks like a sport that's perhaps only marginally more exciting than baseball (which IMO needs moar dunkz) , but I could see why its popular now that someone has actually explained it.
The rest of you shrimps should get back on your barbie before I crocodile dundee ur kangaroo asses u fuckin cunts fosters beer aborigines sniff gas jej australia
>>64590759
top ramen
>>64590758
k
>>64590782
here's the thing, out of every sport on the planet, test cricket has the widest skill gap.
Even if cricket caught on like wildlife in America, China & Russia tomorrow, it would take atleast 30 years before >you weren't complete dogshit at it.
Literally every single existing cricket nation shows that is the precedent.
>>64590782
just watch our fucking sport
>>64590782
>>64590782
caught on like wildfire*
>>64590784
that was kind of cool.
hey dicks, i'm not bashing your sport, we literally just dont' know what the fuck we're looking at and you guys are busy being "really cool international guys who are way less cocky and arrogant than those yanks ha ha " to explain it. Luckily a cool guy posted a video which explains it, so now I get it. I won't watch it because I mean come on I jerk off like 12 times a day I don't have time for multiple sports and video games on top of that. But now I know what the fuck the big deal is. Was that so hard u fuckin koala fuckers?
>>64588780
you must not be facing good bowlers then, I was taught the first 3 balls are the hardest to survive, if a good bowler gets you out playing defensive in the first 3 you just have to say well done and move on
>>64590759
He forgot to mention that you need roundie-tossers every six skippies so that the swatty-pops have to adjust to different bowling styles.
>>64590828
based bermuda
when are you lads going to be good enough to qualify for the world cup again?
cricket isnt even a sport
mangrab is more competitive
just fuck off anglofags
cricket looks fun to play but how tf can you watch it
>>64590849
generally use my tv lad
>>64590855
that was a nice 1, did the old 'took it literally' trick
>>64590849
I think the same thing about baseball and soccer, meribro (and football, because holy shit i can't hold all these commercials and constant game stoppages).
>>64589724
Kallis was a bit too much of a selfish cunt sometimes thought, but he did mellow in that regard with age. But he gets underrated by a lot of casuals because of what having a 4th seamer who bats at 3-4 and is genuinely world class there adds to a team, he balanced that south african side beautifully because they could afford to play a specialist batter at 6 while having the 5 bowlers.
>>64590869
i feel that way about baseball, not that anyone randomly plays baseball, but i only watch soccer and nba
Why is krazykrezja so obsessed with trying to prove cricket's worth to BSAs, lads?
>>64590873
I still remember all the casuals realising how good he was after he retired and they looked at his average
>>64590869
clarification - going to an actual baseball game is fun - watching one on tv is not so much. Soccer is poop, (I've tried to like your sport, rest of the world, but it's mostly standing around and occasionally a guy kicks it a few hundred feet in one direction before another guy kicks it back) and football games are filled with the dregs of society
>>64590875
I watch NBA. I used to randomly play baseball, but yeah it's not as easy because you need a pretty big group of people and not just a few to shoot some hoops.
>>64590715
in this situation you have a pakistani lanklet smashing a manlet in the face with a small leather ball at just a shade under 90mph with no helmet on. not exactly no physical component there
>>64590847
Go back to your furpuck containment thread.
>>64590813
>I jerk off like 12 times a day
You'd probably be able to fit that in around a Test match innings desu.
>itt: buttblasted pooinloos arguing against the GOAT status of basedman
>>64590901
Ouch. Happens sometimes in baseball with a much harder and larger ball travelling at slightly faster speeds (avg. fastball is about 91-2mph, some can reach 100 with fastest ever at 105), but rarely in the face.
>>64590923
>a much harder and larger ball
Can you stop spouting lies for even one second?
A cricket ball is smaller and heavier than a baseball, making it a lot harder
>>64590923
Cricket is a far more dangerous sport than boreball because targeting the ribcage and face is a legitimate tactic that is used virtually every over
In boreball they are only pitching the ball into one designated area. if it goes anywhere else it is an accident
example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQS4bV9UeTI
>>64590923
Your basically allowed to target the man in cricket. Here's Piers Morgan getting his ribs fractured (glorious) by a retired player https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePx61TkXKY.
>>64590923
it's a tactic in cricket to bowl so the ball is hitting the batsman in the ribs/chest area every ball, one reason why the sport is so mentally demanding is the constant threat in test cricket that the ball could be going for your head. basically if you have any kind of mental health problems they show up after prolonged playing of test cricket because of how that can fuck people up. a few decades ago the bowlers where arguably faster because of less cricket being played so they could go all out more often and west indies haev gone to shit recently and they where one of the best nations for producing fast bowling talent and they didn't have helmets, so death or massive health risks if you fuck up where an accepted risk of playing the sport
>>64590937
Err... a cricket ball is, according to wikipedia, cork wrapped in string, wrapped in leather. A baseball is cork wrapped in string, coated in rubber cement, wrapped in more string, wrapped in leather. A baseball is much larger than a cricket ball. They're essentially the same fucking thing except baseballs are bigger and thrown significantly faster.
>>64590942
>>64590956
>>64590958
Yeah, I'm not trying to say your sport is not "manly". Damn, you guys are sensitive. If I had a fucking UK flag this would be no big deal. AANYWAY, my point was actually the last thing I said, which is that this doesn't happen to our guys in the face hardly at all, just accidental body shots (but they are arguably more dangerous when it DOES accidentally happen due to higher speed + larger size of the ball causing more damage). Your sport is very manly and strong and you guys have very large penises. Sorry for any confusion.
>>64590977
thank you mr big muscular american
>>64590977
Big Strong American complements our penis lengths. Glorious.
>>64590960
>>64590977
>but they are arguably more dangerous when it DOES accidentally happen due to higher speed + larger size of the ball causing more damage
Not really
Baseball's are thrown THROUGH THE AIR into a DESIGNATED area. It can only vary from that marginally
A cricket ball can be bowled from a multitude of different angles and at a virtually incalculable number of lengths.
There's only a few variables when it comes to pitching a baseball. Predicting where the cricket ball is going to go and indeed how it will behave off the surface is far more difficult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK7XOt6BUnQ
>>64591008
And yet I fail to see how any of that is relevant when we are discussing the effects of being hit with the ball. Predicting how the ball will behave will help you AVOID being hit, but we are speaking of a scenario in which someone has been hit.
To my big american brain, it would seem that big fast ball hurt bigger cuz big ball hit more stuff more fast. If this is incorrect, I am afraid I may be unable to comprehend your eloquent reasoning as to why that may be, so perhaps it is best we just allow me to continue in my perpetual state of delusion.
>>64587863
Because people in 1928 weren't good at anything yet.
>>64591029
Of course if you got hit in the head with a baseball there's a good chance you could die, people have died from being hit with cricket balls, most notably Phil Hughes in 2014.
The point is that intentionally hitting somebody with the ball in baseball is a benulty, in cricket it's a completely legal and legitimate strategy to unease a batter.
>>64591138
Yup. I know. Y'all said that a ways back. Just saying that when you do get hit with the baseball, it likely hurts more since more of your body is being bludgeoned, and it is being bludgeoned with roughly equal or possibly even more force (would need to do the math on that one to determine how the difference in overall mass of the ball and the difference in acceleration work out, forcewise, but at a glance both differences (slightly below 90 mph vs slightly below 100mph and the .5 oz difference in roughly 5oz balls) somewhere in the neighborhood of 10% difference for each and since f = m * a, would probably be comparable)
>>64591029
>o my big american brain, it would seem that big fast ball hurt bigger cuz big ball hit more stuff more fast
It is like comparing having an orange vs an apple thrown at you.
Yeah the orange is bigger but the apple will hurt more
>>64591163
90 mph is not that fast in cricket, it really depends on the bowler, a fast bowler can easily bowl at you at 100+ mph but it's absolute murder on the knees as you aren't allowed to bend your arm when bowling, you have to take a run up and do some jumps to build up the force, so it's not very common these days for people to constantly bowl at their full speed in order to prolong their playing career but you will still come up against the odd 100mph ball.
Also a cricket ball is smaller, denser and solid than a baseball.
Either way I don't want to be hit by either from a professional bowler or pitcher.
>>64591178
Well, I mean... except... first - the density difference between an apple and an orange is certainly greater than that of a cricket ball vs a baseball and secondly... would it? Because, if we just go with your analogy anyway, then this hypothetical orange is not only slightly more dense than your average orange but is also being thrown significantly faster than the apple. Also, the orange is hitting more of your body because of its greater surface area, meaning more chance of vulnerable areas being struck and more of your body being impacted.
>>64591163
>>64591209
Go back to reddit you fucking retard
>>64590923
but they're thrown just outside the body, while any decent bowler who cracks 130 kph will be actively looking to injure the batsmen every fucking over
Back in the 70s there was a famous incident where an english batsmen was hit in the groin by jeff thomson who was the fastest bowler in the world. It struck him so hard his box (cup for big strong americans) shattered and the guy had to be taken off field in a stretcher and was so shellshocked that he retired from international cricket.
Hell, just over a year ago Phil Hughes was killed after being hit on the neck by a ball from a thoroughly mediocre state bowler.
>>64591182
This directly from wikipedia (I know, not a great source, but whatever)
Despite the differences in delivery action, the delivery speeds are similar for both sports with the fastest bowlers and pitchers propelling the ball in the region of 95–100 mph (150–160 km/h): the fastest recorded cricket delivery is 100.2 mph (161.26 km/h)[8][9] with baseball's record quicker at 105 mph (169.0 km/h).[10] It is the case, however, that baseball pitches near or at 100 mph are considerably more common than bowled balls of comparable velocity in cricket. The bowler in cricket is much more restricted with respect to how much he can straighten his arm in delivering the ball, and this is one very significant reason why baseball pitchers can deliver the ball faster with more frequency.
One main difference, however, is that the ball in cricket is harder and heavier in weight. The legal weight for the ball in baseball is from 5 to 5.25 ounces (142 to 149 g); whereas the ball in cricket must weigh between 5.5 and 5.8 ounces (156 and 164 g).
So... yeah, baseballs are faster. Faster record, faster on average. Faster. The ball is only slightly heavier, with the heaviest cricket ball being about 16% heavier than the lightest baseball and the heaviest baseball being about 5% lighter than the lightest cricket ball. I still maintain that the AVERAGE fastball would hurt more than the AVERAGE cricket pitch. They'd certainly be comparable in any case. We really will argue about anything here on the chan, won't we?
>>64591230
I've been on 4chan since 2006, friendo. I don't use reddit at all or have an account, though I do occasionally browse a topic when google brings me there. Please come up with a more relevant insult tailored to my specific brand of faggotry if you want to rustle my jimjams.
>>64591267
username?
>>64591291
Reread, heh. I have none.
Anyway, I've been arguing with some anonymous australians about this weird sport that I've never watched and until today have 0 understand of for a really really long time and it's past my bedtime. G'night, maybe I'll come harass your thread some more another time.
>>64591311
please watch our sport
>>64590956
Brian Close was a tough old bastard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-f5pfBgpNE
>>64591250
I'm not debating that baseballs are pitched at a faster speed and are equally as deadly as cricket balls but at the end of the day the nature of cricket makes it a more dangerous sport.
The only MLB player to die on the field is Ray Chapman whereas 4 Cricket players have died after being struck with a ball since 2009.
>>64591329
Don't forget Boucher getting blinded and that Zimbabwe guy getting epilepsy and going crazy after being hit on the head
>>64591328
I'm furious that there isn't any good videos of Holding to Grieg during that series
>>64591250
Literally missing the point entirely
The baseball isnt going at your head. The cricket ball is.
The baseball isnt coming off an uneven surface which can unpredictably alter the bounce. The cricket ball is.
>>64591355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cozSq8XC-LU
as good as we're ever going to get
>>64588889
>Barry bonds
>some souped up giga nigga is better than Babe Ruth
You need to kill yourself
Ladies and gentlemen, presenting the second best cricketer of all time: Garfield "Gary" Sobers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUVL3SqqZo
>>64591418
Sobers is the only one who can even hold a candle to Bradman and that's because he could bowl.
>>64591267
>le I've been here forever
Your posts are the most autistic and cringeworthy shit I've read on here in a while. That's saying something with all these fucktards from leddit that have migrated the last 3 years.
>>64591418
talent wise he's probably the true GOAT, he started off as a number 8 spin bowler and ended up a seam bowling genuine allrounder who averaged over 50 while captaining a team and spending the evenings of a test partying. the current west indies team aren't fit to lick his boots clean nevermind represent the same set of islands he loves so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgTNnBNWlQ0
>>64591702
also his first test century ended up being 365 not out at the age of 21, which is absurd
>>64591740
god damn it mang
>claims to be goat
>never even played T20
>mfw
>>64591029
Baseball is a shit sport. Just stop.
>>64591822
feel bad for Jason Holder, he has to carry the whole of West Indes cricket on his shoulders because Gayle doesn't give a fuck
>>64591866
the players are always looking out for themselves and they earn so much more money going to the ipl, the windies board gives them jack shit and refuse to have any flexibility or progressiveness yet sill expect them to bow down and suck their dicks. the ecb does the same thing, but pays the players incredibly well and pampers them for it so they get away with it slightly
>>64591740
Damn. That's sad.
>>64590096
This thread was a mistake.
>>64590715
You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side thats been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.
When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out.
When both sides have been in and all the men have out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game!
>>64590960
We have baseballs here in sports shops. They're bigger, but lighter and not quite as hard (at least when the cricket ball is still new).
>>64587863
Nobody except Aussies consider Bradman GOAT. He played in a time when it was basically amateur, the bowlers were nowhere near as dangerous as they were nowadays, and the pitches were batting paradises.
Put any world-class batsman from the last 10 years into the bradman's era and they'd probably dominate it too.
>>64592255
here have a reply
>>64592255
>he's fallen for the not mentioning uncovered wickets meme
>>64590977
>Your sport is very manly and strong and you guys have very large penises. Sorry for any confusion.
Best American Ever
>>64592231
nigga i understood nothing
>>64590977
BSA
BIG
STRONG
ANGLO NATIONS
>>64592318
please watch our sport
>>64587863
coz straya
>>64587863
BSA acknowledges bradman,
I came.
>>64589233
Lara>Ponting>Pooing in an actual loo> Sachin
>>64592318
Cricket is good, slippery gypsy
>n-notice BSB(big strong bogans)
fuck off ausboo
>>64588647
>not wanting to go die in a war you didn't sign up for
What an asshole that guy was. I've been wanting to go die for my nation's economy.
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>>64592473
cant be worst than boreball, ive seen some indian dudes gathering to play it every weekend in a park nearby where i go running, ill ask them where do they watch their cricket
>>64592532
They are talking out their asses. He had a severe muscular problem popping up that time plus he had bad eye sight. He was deemed invalid I think by 1942. He was like 34 by that time. He's basically the Wayne Gretzky of cricket started young
>>64592498
Yes, yes.Admire the girth of my rod
>>64587978
>>64588647
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>>64592312
Loo users only allowed. Hidden.
>>64592568
Dont listen to these cunts. 5 day test with no follow-on ending in a draw. Only someone raised on that shit won't think it's boring.
>>64592568
crichd.in
please watch it
>>64592577
>he took time and effort to single out all the indian flags in the thread
you take this shit a little too seriously 2bh pam
>>64591418
>those fucking shots
goddamn, I haven't seen a player with that much flair in years
Why did the Windies have to get so shit lads? They used to be the coolest motherfuckers around
>>64593428
Viv was one of the few batters who could actually intimidate fast bowlers, the man was a god
>>64593428
>Why did the Windies have to get so shit lads? They used to be the coolest motherfuckers around
Money and general WICB incompetence.
>>64593428
they still have their moments
>>64591328
He also played a 2nd XI game for yorkshire in his 60's iirc, he was the kinda guy you just don't fuck with because he had little to no fear
>>64593552
>marlon samuels is now 34 with a test average of 33
if he wasn't such a bullheaded convinced of himself idiot he could have been a very good batsman, by all accounts he thinks he's never wrong and doesn't make mistakes
>>64593708
>he could have been a very good batsman
you can say this about half of the Windian team
Bravo and Gayle barely play and have their form ruined by T20 cricket
Chanderpaul could still be good, but he isn't selected since he's in his forties and unironcially playing first class cricket with his son
Holder has too much pressure from captaincy and bowling to develop as a batsman
Russell played a grand total of 1 test before fucking off to T20 cricket, despite being able to bat and bowl at 140+
Then there was another guy who was hyped up as a kid and ended up ditching the sport to play baseball
It just makes me fucking mad
So much autism in one thread.
>>64593860
proxy off memespouter
>>64593890
Not your autistic Australian friend.
>>64591407
I said just as good. And everyone uses steroids
>>64590096
>is really only comparable to Gretzky's points gap. (Even though I think Mario Lemieux is better)
