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Who would win?
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>>64586307
Browns
>college fags keep bringing up bullshit stats like all purpose
>refuse to admit professional football players even on the worst teams can bootyblast cfb
Johnny Memezel would meme a victory. You fucking bitch how could you even doubt the shut stain browns against a college level south fuck-boi dream team.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/84020-could-the-best-college-football-team-beat-the-worst-nfl-team
>Browns have 53 players that have made an NFL roster
>Alabama has 20-30 players each year that will be on an NFL roster week 1, in a good year
You tell me
>>64586307
not even close bama by a landslide
inb4 college vs pro level of talent, fsu's starters from offensive and defense 2 years ago from that title team are all playing in the nfl or soon to be. that team could booty blast the browns imagine what the bama team this year can do
>>64586447
also unlike most of /sp/ I actually back my claims up
here's that fsu team's defensive starters
>>64586307
The third stringers on the browns are an all star team of college talent from the last ten years, hand picked and trained by professional talent scouts and coaches.
Why does this question keep getting asked?
>>64586447
and here's the offensive starters
remember when johnny manziel memed all over alabama
>>64586487
Holy craps. Bears, ravens and saints? Be still my heart with those defensive powerhouses.
Next he will tell me they had PREseason all ACC players...
>>64586535
So you've constructed the 33rd best team in the NFL. And it's far far behind the 32nd still.
Grats.
>>64586585
that fsu team would booty blast the current browns no question
>>64586616
They would get blown out by the end of the first quarter
oh it's this thread again
there are maybe five players on Alabama's roster that could play on any NFL team right now
probably less
>>64586503
>Why does this question keep getting asked?
Because it makes for fun banter until some autist comes along and states the obvious. :)
If Manziel were playing that game, he'd bring the anti-Bama magic once again.
If not, it's 50-50.
>>64586307
Alabama.
Browns are trash, Johnny football sucks. Derrick Henry would run right through them
>Manziel bootyblasts Bama at A&M
>implying Bama wouldn't be bootyblasted even harder now
>>64586364
Bama has
>better coaches
>better quarterback
>better running back
>better defensive line/linebackers
>better punter/all around special teams
Browns have
>better DBs
>better kicker
Tossup:
>offensive line
>tight end
Anyone who says the browns would win is kidding themselves.
>>64586616
You're wrong.
The fact that they had NFL talent on their team doesn't account for the obvious gap between both in experience, physical maturity, and talent.
Regardless of what you think all of the Browns players are pros and were the 1% of the college teams they came from.
Even considering that all of fsu's players made the NFL take in to consideration how long it took them to be efficient at a pro level, when they were drafted (some stay undrafted before making it), and if they even started and IF they started were they even that good?
>>64586776
>Tossup:
>offensive line
>tight end
>Gary Barnidge
>Joe Thomas
>Joel Bitonio
>Alex Mack
>Cam Irving
>tossup
You're fucking daft.
>>64586776
>better runningback
That's literally it you fucking faggot
>>64586776
>better coaches
>better running back
That's it, coker is trash
>>64586882
>Bama rednecks think their RB isn't another o-line babby who won't do shit in the NFL
Alabama doesn't produce pro talent at the skill positions.
>>64586961
outside of trent richardson the rest are starting or playing big roles, ingram, lacy are starters and yeldon is in some strange time share, and cooper is a beast
>>64586961
Lacy is good when he's not hurt
>>64586307
>Bama vs Manziel
We already know how this turns out.
We just beat the 3rd best team in the nation 38-0 while taking the entire last 20 minutes off. If the Browns had to come down to Bryant-Denny Stadium to face a Nick Saban coached team it'd be a competitive game. Anybody that thinks otherwise doesn't understand the game of football.
>>64586992
Lacy is good when he pulls the twinkies out of his gullet.
>>64586776
>this is what Deep South GED trash with no NFL teams actually believe
Would be 21-0 by the end of the first quarter. 52 nfl players vs 4 nfl not even rookies.
>>64586503
>all star team of college talent from the last ten years
That's not actually how it works.
>>64586580
Jalen Ramsey is a project top 5 pick this year
All those busts on the Browns were star NCAA players. Am I the only one that remembers what Manziel did to Bama?
>>64587049
>We just beat the 3rd best college team in the nation
Fixed that. If you honestly think a team full of NFL players vs a team of 4-5 NFL players and college kids would end in anything other than a blowout, you don't understand the game of football.
>>64586535
>rashad green starting receiver for jags
>karlos williams starting rb for bills
wut
tre jackson also wouldnt be starting without a fuck ton of injuries
devonta and kelvin are the only quality starters
Everyone who thinks it would even be a competition is underage
>>64587106
Aggie here. You're definitely not alone in that regard.
>>64587102
ive never heard of a top 5 pick not being a great nfl player so were good
>>64586991
>ingram
>lacy
Fucking lel
Lacy had one good season and Ingram was gifted a typical weak schedule
>>64586487
nice
>>64586364
This. It'd be a blow out.
>>64586307
Who would win?
If you think a college team would be able to beat a pro team you are so delusional it might be considered a condition "w-well Alabama has 13-15 nfl caliber players" neat, The Browns have 52. Not to mention Nick Saban couldn't keep up in the NFL. Those run and gun college attacks that rely on out-athleting the other team won't work because everyone on the opposing team will be an amazing athlete.
The 76ers could beat Mich State
These threads are retarded.
Browns not even close most of those players especially lineman put on 15 to 30 lbs in their first 2 or 3 years. Not even close. It would have one 1/4 then be over. Pure strength those guys are just bigger
>>64587049
Nice bait m8
Browns put the score into triple digits before the end of the third quarter.
The worst pro team is still a team comprised of the best college talent.
>>64586388
>20-30
nah
>>64586307
Bama has 4, maybe 5 guys on their roster who are ready to ride the bench for a few years in the NFL. The Browns have 52 grown ass men who are actively playing in the NFL and have the size, speed, and experience to maintain that. Look at what's happened to all these seniors who start in the NFL right after college - most are shuffled back to 2nd or 3rd string or get injured.
Plus let's not forget how offended and pissed off the Browns would be for being compared to "boys on a college team." They'd be out for blood and all of Bama's starters would be kill before the second quarter.
Hell, you could take the best players across the entire NCAA and they'd still get anally devastated by the Browns.
>>64588133
The only sport where this is even a question is basketball
>>64586307
2011 alabama would beat the 2011 browns.
>>64586776
stop pushing this meme
>>64588773
No way. The only game that would be even close is '01 hurricanes vs. '08 Lions
>>64586307
roll tide bitches
>>64586776
Cleveland has:
>Adult men that get paid money to play hard and tackle hard
Alabama has:
>Kids that play FOR FREE
The Browns would end the careers of multiple college students before the game ended in a blowout with Cleveland winning.
>>64586307
OP is the reason I fucking hate Alabama fans.
Do you seriously think you could beat ANY NFL team?
Get the fuck out of here
>>64588743
>basketball
lol, fuck no
it's about the same amount of talent gap between ncaa and nba as it is with the nfl
>>64589008
literally all these players except yeldon and cooper fucking suck in the NFL lol
08 lions could beat this "team"
>>64589657
Fluker and Warmack are pretty good.
>>64586842
>better runningback
lolnope. Duke Johnson > Derrick Henry.
>>64589675
>>>
>Anonymous 01/01/16(Fri)03:42:45 No.64589
they're actually pretty FUCKiNG good
>>64586447
The vast majority of that Alabama roster would struggle to even get on a practice squad due to lack of strength, speed, and/or intelligence. Don't be a silly retard please.
>people saying the browns would win just because they are pro when half the team is busts that shouldnt have made a practice squad
>>64586307
>boys vs. men
Hmm I fucking wonder
>>64586307
browns in a landslide
also sage
>>64590017
>>64589008
all those players except maybe two are garbage tho
>THIS many people don't recognize this gets posted everytime Bama is a top ranked team
Fucking shit /sp/ how new can you be?
I think its pretty obvious that the Browns would win 38-0, easy.
The only College football team that MIGHT have had a chance at beating the worst NFL team was the 2001 Miami Hurricanes. Even then, they had many flaws that would be exposed because those players weren't fully developed on a NFL tier. They would be the only team to maybe play within 20 points.
It would have been 1-15 Carolina Panthers. But I still think the Panthers win.
Any other national championship team would have gotten absolutely destroyed by the worst NFL team.
>QB: Browns
>RB: Bama
>WR/TE: push
>OL: Browns
>DL: Bama
>LB: Bama
>DB: Bama without Haden. Browns with Haden
It's closer than you might think
I don't understand why this is somehow controversial. Alabama has the greatest football coach of all time. They have 20+ starters who will be playing in the NFL next year regardless.
I think that the Browns might get a touchdown for two, but Bama wins by at least 35.
Frankly the only team that could beat Bama is the Patriots.
>>64591679
>meme answers
If you don't think the Browns would win handily you are a fucking retard. College players don't have nearly the muscle mass of literally anyone in the NFL, Bama's offensive line would get fucking manhandled first and foremost, I'd be surprised if they got over 50 yards in that entire game.
The point that a lot of you who are pro-wins-no-matter-what miss is that a lot of the reason many otherwise equally talented players don't make it to the NFL is that they don't match the NFL physical template for a given position. This can be for being too tall, a half inch too short, arms being a half inch too short, etc. Then there's the psychological profile that each team is looking for. Doesn't matter how talented or good you are, if you don't match the mentality they want, you're not getting drafted. If you're really, really good and really really lucky, they'll ignore a part or two of their physical template, but the mental one is fucking sacrosaint.
The NFL can be this picky because they have so many people to choose from, but here's the thing, they aren't fully looking for the absolute "best" player. They're looking for players who won't be super big problems, can learn their shit, won't be problems, and can perform in the NFL style. We've only kinda started seeing them adjust this profile with the likes of Cam Newton. The NFL plays only a very specific kind of football with little change.
>>64592251
Obvious when the froze Tebow out of the league.
>>64592251
>here's the thing, they aren't fully looking for the absolute "best" player. They're looking for players who won't be super big problems, can learn their shit, won't be problems
Aaron Hernandez.
>draft prospects v draft busts
Roll tide
>>64592319
I never claimed that what they were looking for was the same thing as what they wanted, just that they were looking for a specific type.
>>64591679
>1-15 Panthers
>not 0-16 Lions
>or 0-14 Bucs
Nigga ya dun fucked up
>>64586307
It would be 90-0 Browns. These are grown men veterans on those offensive and defensive lines. It would get ugly really fast. You idiots can't actually believe that a college line could block an NFL pass rush?
The Browns would win 38-0 easy.
>19/20 year old linemen vs 28/29 in their prime NFL players
>implying any Bama rusher could get past Joe Thomas
>implying any Bama rusher could sack Johnny Football
>implying Bama could run anywhere or pass anywhere on an NFL defense
>>64592352
>You idiots can't actually believe that a college line could block an NFL pass rush?
They don't seem to understand that physically it's like having 15 year olds play against 20 year olds.
Of course they're going to be pushed around and dominated even if they're stars at their level.
Threads like this remind me why the south is shit and General Sherman didn't do nearly enough
>>64592387
How is this even a question?
Realistically, how many of Alabama's players are NFL ready, and would make an NFL team? How many of them would start for an NFL team right now? I'll be generous and say 5-8 of them, right now, are NFL ready, with 3-4 being NFL starter quality.
Now put that against an NFL roster of 53 where all of them are NFL ready, have already been groomed in the NFL, and every guy starting is at least good enough to start for an NFL team (and we know this because they have won games this season unlike the 0-16 lions who you could argue might lose to Bama because Dan Orlovsky, literally the worst QB of all time in the NFL was their starting QB) and its pretty obvious Bama loses 10 out of 10 by the score of 38-0.
>>64592429
>browns
>roster of 53 NFL caliber players
Top kek
>>64592439
Whether you like it or not, 90% of Bama's roster would get cut from the Browns right this second. By definition, they're an NFL team and have a 53 man roster of NFL quality players. Stay mad doe. 38-0 Browns all day every day nigga.
>>64586307
Out of the 42 College allstar Vs Pro Contests the NCAA is 9-31-2. These games had the best of the NCAA vs the reigning NFL champion. So does this mean that the NCAA champion could beat the worst team in the NFL? no. Does it mean they would be in a competitive game? yes. Will we see this meme every January just for College fans to circle jerk over the AP #1, absolutely.
Also friendly reminder Saban couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag in the NFL, so I would hold off anointing him as automatically victorious because he can pick a glaring weakness in an NCAA opponent. Which Mike Pettine could do.
>>64586678
But anon. A&M Johnny beat Bama and the Browns have a run D.
>>64589591
This, for all of the failures the 76ers could win a seven game series with Kentucky.
>>64591913
His Dolphins tenure would like to argue with you on his ability to win in the NFL.
>>64591875
Dline? Nigga those nfl men got like 200 lbs over a college dline
>>64591913
>this delusion
I pay top dollar on drugs to reach this amount of retardedness but your just born that way?
The only sport where the college team would have a chance against a Pro team is basketball.
>taken from article 1/2
You hear the arguments all the time. People who believe that the best college team in the country could take on the worst NFL team—and win.
People say that teams like the 2008 Detroit Lions or the 2006 Oakland Raiders would lose to a dominant college team like the USC teams of Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart or Penn State with Kerry Collins and Ki-Jana Carter.
I think this reasoning is absurd. Absolutely ridiculous.
Not only would the NFL team win, but they would win by 30 to 40 points. They might win by 50 to 60 points. They would most likely have a shutout and would probably come close to 600 yards of total offense.
Here's why: Every single college football team, no matter how good this team is, has a weakness at some position. It's probably not going to be at any of the skill positions, like quarterback, running back, or wide receiver. It's probably going to be one of the lineman or maybe a defensive back. But one of the players on the college team is going to be a big weakness.
The transition from college to the NFL is not an easy step. Fantastic players in college don't just become superstars in the NFL. Many struggle to even perform as average players.
Take Reggie Bush, as an example. He dominated the game of college football. He was one of the greatest college running backs of all time. He was so good at college football that he knew that he could go to the NFL after his junior year and probably succeed. But guess what happened?
>>64593258
He didn't succeed. Not right away. There was a point, halfway through his first season, where he ranked last in the NFL in yards per carry. And this is one of the greatest college players of all time!
Quarterback Matt Leinart is another example. He won the Heisman Trophy and a national championship with USC. But he doesn't even have a starting job in the NFL right now. He lost his starting job on the Arizona Cardinals, and this was before they were one of the best teams in the NFL.
Now take your worst NFL team. The Detroit Lions hold that honor this year. Every man on their roster has played college football before. Every man on their roster could go back to the game of college football and dominate. They could probably set records.
An NFL team is comprised of the best of the best in college football. The top college players go on to the National Football League. The rest live a normal life, with a normal job. Players in the NFL are too good and have too much experience to lose to 20 and 21-year-olds.
NFL scrubs were the best of the best in college. NFL starters were unbelievable players in college. NFL superstars were usually among the greatest players in college football history.
Your average starting lineman for a No. 1 team will not even make the NFL. If he does, he probably won't be a productive starter.
Take the sad story of Winston Justice, former USC offensive lineman. He was drafted by the Eagles and was asked to make one start in 2007, against the Giants. Defensive end Osi Umenyiora recorded six sacks against him. SIX sacks! In one game! Yes, Osi is a Pro Bowler, but it just goes to show that the talent in college is nowhere near the NFL's talent.
>>64593294
If the college guys had a chance anywhere, it would be at the skill positions. But seriously? Does any NFL player come into the league and make an immediate impact? A few do. A very few do. But the majority of players will sit on the bench for a year or two before being thrust into the game. They're just not ready, physically and mentally.
The linemen would be completely dominated. Many would sustain injuries during the game as well. The receivers would be physically dominated as well, especially going across the middle for passes. The running backs would struggle running up the middle, and the quarterback would be physically battered.
The NFL team is so physically dominant that you could take the 22 best college players in the nation and I do not believe that they would emerge victorious. Not a chance.
>>64592429
Henry is NFL ready, but he would be relegated to nothing behind a decent college line going against a real NFL defensive line.
Gary Barnidge is a 6'6 tight end with sticky fingers. Manziel would just pitch and catch it down the field with him, he'd probably end up with 7 touchdowns. People forget that even though Manziel sucks in the NFL he anally raped almost everyone he faced as a freshman in college, he's a grown man now.
>>64591875
>>64591875
>RB: bama
The fuck? Henry is just the next Trent Richardson, hopefully 4th rd rather than 1st
>LB: bama
Nah. Ragland is the only decent one they have. Orchard and dansby are both good, and Robertson and Kruger are still NFL quality. Do you even think before you post?
>>64593780
You're retarded, Henry and Richardson have nothing in common physically. Henry is like 7 inches taller than Richardson and isn't a fat ass.
38-0
>>64589704
hahaha this desu
Bama fags btfo
>>64589657
miachel williams actually did well for a rookie tackle
the sad part is the veterans allowed many of the sacks
Well the Browns dont have a reciever with hands in his gloves so bama
>>64586776
>better QB
>implying manziel wouldnt rape bama's defense for the 3rd time
>>64600017
If they played bump and run ever the Browns WR would absolutely smash them at the line and run unguarded while the D line got annihilated by the offensive line giving Johnny all day to throw.
Or they could just have the O-line make a huge gap and their 3rd string RB could cut up the middle for 10 yards or more a play.
Browns.
>>64601370
Shut up leaveland fag. your shitty receivers couldn't catch a tennis ball with Velcro gloves and your O-line is so bad it couldn't stop a red sign.
Bama wins
>>64601501
>leaveland
Yup go back to your shit fucking /nba/ general faggot
>>64601547
>browns leave shitty cleaveland
>win owl in shittier baltimore...twice
Nah, you're leaveland fag
>>64601501
It doesn't take a Clevelandfag to see that all styles of physical play would so greatly favor the Browns that Alabama wouldn't be able to do anything.
Both of the Alabama lines would be dominated all game. It wouldn't be surprising to see them get injured.
They just don't have the bodies to compete with NFL starters. Even the shitty starters.
The professionals, not the amateurs. 99% of the time.
inb4 >amateurs
>>64593294
>Now take your worst NFL team. The Detroit Lions hold that honor this year.
>Not the Browns
>Not the Chargers
Nigga the >loins have 6 wins, and aren't even ranked worst overall. Are you maybe thinking about the 08 Lions?
>>64601501
>your shitty receivers couldn't catch a tennis ball with Velcro gloves and your O-line is so bad it couldn't stop a red sign
Against professional players maybe. But Bama would be absolutely decimated physically at every front against a pro team. That's the point of saying a 3rd string RB would gash them. Despite how bad the Browns are they can score points against professionals and get sacks against professionals, and they have team wins against pros also.
One game this season they got 9 sacks in a game against the 49'ers what do you think will happen to a Junior O-line man in college with one professional pass rusher much more the entire Line?
I though only Arkansas had the inbreds?
The Browns could literally run the ball every play and win by 50+.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Richardson
I think Bama has already won
>>64592456
Realistically if we're talking about playing today and not players they are counting on developing Cleveland would cut 99% of Bama players. They might keep one of those stud d lineman and Henry, and both would be backups.
>>64589008
this team couldn't even beat ass to mouth
>>64592749
>Browns have a run D.
what?
>>64589398
>implying Bama players play for free
my sides
>the team that couldn't beat ole piss can beat cleveland
>>64586535
lol Cameron Erving plays on the Browns and he sucks at the moment. Being a future NFL starter does not mean you are at that level as soon as you enter the league, and especially not while you are still in college.
>>64586307
>this maymay
>>64591913
holy fuck i haven't laughed so hard in forever.
i fucking love alabama, but probably all nfl teams would beat them. they might beat bama. winning football is about more than just the athletic talent of the players. this isn't fucking niggerball.
i think bama could roll the browns. the browns dont have "muh 52 nfl ready players". if they had 52 nfl ready players, of average nfl caliber, they would be a lot closer to 8-8. instead they're 3-12. even if you want to call their shit players "nfl ready" they're the bottom of the barrel.
>>64586307
you're mum
Whenever I come across this discussion, I remember this bit from one of my favorite shows. It accurately depicts how I think a NFL worst vs NCAA best game would go.
https://youtu.be/vmuMJDOnIDM
>>64602141
clearly copied and pasted from a few years back dumbshit. All the points still stand.
I'd say very unlikely that Bama would win, maybe not even once. But anything can happen on any given Sunday. Shit, isn't that essentially what happened at the 1980 Olympics? Those hockey players were a bunch of nobody college kids that just beat the best team all at that were all at pro level. Different sport, but the theory is the same.
