You may only post in this thread if your country has a chess player in the world top ten.
>>64561265
Anand just keeps dropping :(
Poor Vishy
>>64561286
I believe he will be back with full force by the time of the 2016 Candidates Tournament. Remember how convincingly he won it last time.
>>64561354
I hope so. I like Anand
>a wild frenchman appears
We do, apparently
Wrong board mate.
>>>/tg/
>nakamara
>caruana
>so
>american
>having any less than THREE (3) top 10 chess players
What's it like to be from such an irrelevant country?
>>64561432
He's the oldest player in the top ten by more than five years, and still one of the very best. His performances in Shamkir and Stavanger this year were excellent by any standard. It wouldn't be out of place to see a third match for the World Championship between Carlsen and Anand.
>>64561498
Maxime Vachier-Lagrave is one of the most interesting players in the world elite.
>>64561533
Giri is perhaps the most dangerous player who might qualify for the World Championship match this year.
>>64561555
>you
>asshealthy
>>64561555
Alright Mohammed.
Nice trips though fag.
>>64561265
Superior game here
>>64561647
Is this Street Fighter or Othello?
>>64561584
>this year
The next year, of course. I appear to think it is 2016 already. I'm terribly sorry.
>>64561713
are these like the guys that suck at Go so they play this instead?
>>64561595
>>64561628
kek
KEK
>>64561793
>US stealing talents of all fields from foreign countries to get shit done
That´s how the US fucking works Ahmed.
>>64561793
>>64561825
You forgot to compliment Ahmed on his cool clock.
>>64561793
So is flip? holy shit a SEAmonkey rep
who /strongestracelivinginamerica/ here?
>You may only post in this thread if your country has a chess player in the world top ten.
>country is no good in any sport
>has to brag about a childs game
>and their number 1 is actually a flop
>>64561793
>Nakamura's mom is American
stay salty England
Oh wait you arent allowed to post in this thread
>>64561793
The information provided is incorrect. Caruana was born in Miami, USA. The image is poorly edited, probably by the poster himself.
>>64561862
What are you guys good at? It´t sure not MMA or football. Dancing maybe?
>>64561862
kek fuck off João your people are too stupid for chess.
Do all these guys compete in 1 tournament or is it single matches?
>>64561584
really? i never even heard of the guy. still thats pretty cool i guess.
>>64561943
See >>64561793
>>64561929
>not on top 10 either
>>64561929
>>64561951
There were two notable events in December: the London Chess Classic and the Qatar Masters Open.
The London Chess Classic was a ten-player tournament in which everyone plays everyone once, and fielded Carlsen, Giri, Aronian, Nakamura, Caruana, Vachier-Lagrave, Anand, Topalov, Grischuk and local hope Adams.
The Qatar Masters Open had more than a hundred participants, among them Carlsen, Kramnik, Giri and So.
Carlsen won both events, but had to play a playoff both times (against Vachier-Lagrave and Yu Yangyi, respectively).
>>64561956
He went through the Grand Chess Tour unbeaten and is not only the youngest player on the list, but also the only one with a plus score against Carlsen.
>>64562013
>There were two notable events in December
>notable
>norway
>>64562013
just looked him up, he's russian tbf. i dont think dutch people are smart enough for it.
>>64562013
Thanks for the info my man, any idea when the next big event is?
>>64562042
Look up Max Euwe and Jan Timman.
>>64562051
Tata Steel in January. The favourites are Carlsen, Giri and Caruana, with several dangerous outsiders.
>>64562097
Here is the full list of players.
Norway bro could you give us a tl;dr version of the current top 10 players (or at least the important ones) and how they might fuck up Carlsen?
>>64562241
In order of live rating:
Kramnik: master of positional play and the man who dethroned Kasparov by the turn of the millennium. Is old and not quite as good as he used to be, but terrifying when he is in form. Not qualified for Candidates, in spite of his position on the rating list.
Giri: The youngest player on the list has never lost to Carlsen, and apart from a quick win when Giri was 16, they have drawn all their games since. Extremely solid. Qualified for Candidates by average rating in 2015.
Aronian: Very creative, universal style. Has outplayed Carlsen more times than anyone else, according to Carlsen himself, but has a tendency to be unable to finish him off. Beat Carlsen in their last encounter. Qualified for Candidates by wild card.
Nakamura: Never beats Carlsen. Qualified for Candidates.
Caruana: One of the few people who beats Carlsen with any semblance of regularity. Has several nice wins, but a negative overall record. A WC match between these two players would be very exciting. Qualified for Candidates.
More to come.
>>64562349
MVL: Extremely strong tactician and calculator. Shows good form. Not qualified for Candidates, which is a shame.
Anand: Living legend. Performances vary between slightly disappointing and truly stellar. If he has a good tournament, he might very well challenge Carlsen in a match. Qualified for Candidates as former finalist.
Topalov: Highly unpredictable. Perhaps the best attacking player in the world, though not quite as good in defense. Had a terrible tournament in London (+0-4=5). Has beaten Carlsen twice this year, though the first one was on time in a dead lost position. Qualified for Candidates by average rating through 2015.
So: Very solid. Only played against Carlsen four times (one loss, three draws). Not qualified for Candidates.
Also qualified for Candidates are Sergey Karjakin and Peter Svidler. I consider them outsiders in a tournament where all other players are favourites, and should they win, a match against Carlsen would be very tough.
>>64562349
>>64562471
Cool information thanks. So who is most likely to give Carlsen a hard time in your opinion?
>>64562471
The two other players I think deserve mention are Alexander Grischuk and Ding Liren.
Grischuk started the year above 2800, but has dropped down to around 2750. He's strong in all phases of the game, but has an unfortunate tendency of getting very low on the clock. He lost against Carlsen in the final round of the London Chess Classic, in a game which could have gone both ways.
Ding Liren is the best among the upcoming Chinese players, and younger than Carlsen. He was in the top ten for some time this year, but fell out of the list just this month.
>>64562518
Giri. He's the youngest, he's the only player with an undefeated plus score against Carlsen, and he's the highest rated player qualified for the Candidates Tournament (assuming live ratings, not official ones).
Is there any russian prospect?
>>64562880
Vladislav Artemiev is one to look out for. He's the third youngest player in the top 100.
>>64561265
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Why are Spaniards and Spaniard descended people so much better at chess than what one might expect?
Honest question, what is their secret?
>this is a 10 in norway
>>64563015
there's no secret. chess is mostly just for people who are autistic and being a chess master is not reflective of your intelligence although smart people tend to play chess. ask yourself why these chess "geniuses" never go on to accomplish anything of note with that genius. it's because they play a fucking board game.
>>64561555
>all Americans have British surnames.
>>64563015
examples
How big is the gap between a master and a grandmaster?
>>64562935
Do you think he can reach top ten?
>>64563131
>all them huehues ITT
You looking for new fields to be relevant in?
>>64563113
Define "master". FIDE has several titles. Candidate Master (CM) must have achieved a rating above 2200, FIDE Master (FM) above 2300, International Master (IM) above 2400 and Grandmaster (GM) above 2500. In addition, there are other requirements called "norms", certain tournament performances that are required for the titles.
>>64563131
It is possible, but difficult.
I know I'm not allowed to post, but I'm really excited to see Giri play in the Candidates Tournament.
I can't think of a single game of his that I didn't enjoy. Probably the most interesting player in the last 10 years.
>>64563111
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Spanish_chess_players for a small list
>>64563076
But that's still beside the point, you might expect Spaniards to excell at football or handball, but maybe I'm just really wrong here
>>64563015
>>64563341
Spain and the Latin American countries are actually not that good at chess. Only Cuba has a player in the world elite and a good team. Spain and Peru also have a strong first board player as well as promising, young players to fill in the rest of the team, but that is more or less it.
>>64563469
Then I was mistaken in my belief, got it.
Also, in your opinion, what "countries" are indeed surprisingly good at chess?
>child's game played by autists
pass.
>>64563549
Armenia springs to mind. They have a population of only three millions, and is the most-winning Chess Olympiad nation after 2000 (Armenia has won 3, Russia 2, Ukraine 2 and China 1).
>caring about a game where a program running off a cell phone can easily curbstomp the top human
Go is the superior game.
>>64563549
I don't know if it's surprising, but USA and Russia are pretty damn good. Norway has Carlsen, which is incredible from such a small country.
Ukraine is really, really strong.
France, Armenia and Hungary are all pretty good too.
>>64563264
I'm a regular here, m8. Comfiest thread on /sp/. Shame i don't know much about chess, but norgebro is always patient and helpfull.
>>64563269
I didn't know there were multiple tiers of master. I was talking about skill gap, though. Could a player rated 2500 beat a 2700 without it being a fluke?
>>64563587
So you would rather watch a car race because they will be always faster than humans?
Stupid argument.
>>64563611
It happens, but it is also depending on what you would call a fluke. For instance, Yannick Pelletier (2571) of Switzerland has beaten both Nakamura and Carlsen this autumn. Are these two games flukes, or just somewhat unlikely results that still happened?
>>64563577
Interesting. I wonder what makes Armenia in particular excel, but maybe this is just a short-lived golden phase.
>>64563591
USA and Russia being top tier is not surprising at all. Neither is Norway having an elite player though Armenia, Ukraine and Hungary do come as surprises
>>64561555
>Not a single Anglo in this entire list
lmao
>>64563653
why dont they make 2 supercomputers play eachother?
wouldnt that yield the perfect game of chess?
>>64563664
I think that if it happens every other tournment, it's not a fluke
Caruana is considered american now? What happened?
>>64563743
He recognized America's superiority.
>>64563692
Chess is very popular in Armenia, much because of Tigran Petrosian's success.
>>64563732
They do that all the time. It's interesting to watch.
>>64563741
Upsets happen.
>>64563743
He transferred to the US this summer.
>>64563732
>wouldnt that yield the perfect game of chess?
m8.........
>>64563732
Would always end in a draw
>>64563732
No, Chess is in EXP-time, EXP Complete without the 50 move draw rule
We cannot possibly hope to ever build a computer in this Universe that plays the perfect game of Chess.
>>64563762
>>64563766
>>64563797
See for yourselves. There are several decisive games.
http://www.chessbomb.com/arena/2015-tcec-s8f
>>64563812
The fact that some positions can be calculated to reach an endgame in Weakly polynomial time doesn't mean that all, or even most can.
Chess is very much impossible to solve even with all the rules to draw the game, it is at least PSPACE-hard
>>64563812
For those unwilling to look through all the games, Komodo beat Stockfish 9-2, with 89 draws. Interestingly, 5 of the 11 decisive games were won with the black pieces.
>>64563938
>look through a few games
>all this en passant
>and none of it makes sense
I need to git gud :^(
>>64564709
Do not worry, these computer vs computer games tend to confuse very strong players as well.
This is the best computer vs computer game I have ever seen:
http://tcec.chessdom.com/archive.php?se=7&st=2&ga=29
>>64561793
holy FUCK this asshurt
>you will never be so bootyblasted that you edit a wikipedia page and take a screenshot of it to fuel your saltiness
Should I feel bad for favoring Svidler as an American? I also really don't care for Nakamura as he tends to be a crybaby among other things.
>>64561565
Honestly with Carlsen being as good as he is that counts for at least 3.
Also kek at Topalov's rating after his disaster in London.
>>64564893
No, Svidler is not only the underdog in the upcoming Candidates, but also a really nice guy. I met him at the 2013 World Cup, we looked at one of his games from the tiebreak against Ushenina.
>>64561793
Ummmm, Michael Adams is only #20. What are you doing posting in this thread?
>>64561793
g-go So!
>>64564811
BTFO
>>>/asp/
Even mandrama is more of a sport than this.
I just wonder how strong the American team would be if Gata Kamsky managed to regain the strength he had just a couple of years ago.
>>64562471
>Peter Svidler
Based Svidler still there I know he won't quality for the world championship but I hope he's on commentary.
>>64571704
I like how the rest of the list changes so much but carlsen remains unreacheable
