Should student athletes be paid?
for sports that sell out stadiums like college football and some baseball teams yes.
For sports that get 20 people in the stands like womens rowing and mens track and field no
>>64548798
with cheerleader pussy
They do, scholarships. You know how much university costs are? Plus I doubt a lot of them could even get into college on their grades alone.
My solution, no scholarships. All walk-On from guys who actually got into the school.
Assuming they are in revenue sports that generate profits, then yes. It's called capitalism.
>>64548828
This too, their huge stars. They get tons of pussy and free college. That's payment.
>>64548821
Or pay them all and just make it a fraction of ticket sale revenue or something. Essentially the same thing but you can market it as "fair"
>>64548842
>le doesn't understand rudimentary economics man
They're not forced to play.
It's all voluntary.
>>64548843
yeah I can understand not paying for the shit sports that nobody cares about but is is pure jew fuckery that college football coaches earn millions on top of millions and TV deals go for millions and they expect the kids to play for free
>>64548835
Never would happen though because universities lose their sweetest plum
It's a shame though because you are 100% right
Yes, a big name team like Alabama will have maybe 3-4 players drafted every year into the NFL. Think about the thousands of kids who have played football their entire lives, to get to that college, work their asses off, and an injury completely shatters their NFL hopes. Well now they can't play football, and have nothing to fall back on. No one is talking millions, but at least a manageable sum considering how much money a university makes off of ticket revenue.
>>64548859
which minor league team call football players go to in order to be NFL ready again?
>100's of thousands of dollars worth of a college degree they couldn't get unless they played sports
>fuck women constantly. Lots of BLACKED going on in college campuses in the USA.
Now you want to give them even more.
At the very least, they should be able to use their own name to make money. Endorsements, Autograph Signings, Video Game Appearances, etc., should all be permissible. Literally cannot think of an argument for why it shouldn't be allowed.
>>64548836
With very few exceptions, virtually no women's teams generate profits. If male student-athletes are paid a stipend or salary and females aren't, there will undoubtedly be claims of Title IX violations.
>>64548882
>100's of thousands
>here's an arbitrary 60,000 dollar semester tuition, which half of it goes to our football program and its coaching staff
>you play for free though
>>64548891
why are universities fucking safe spaces with "gender nondiscrimination" the real world does not work like that and no body goes to WNBA games because they are not fun
>>64548882
>hundreds of thousands of dollars given away
Of the billions of dollars of revenue generated by these athletes.
Face it, the only reason you don't want them to get paid is because you don't want to see a bunch of young, mostly black men getting rich.
>>64548903
It will, those are the future leaders of the country.
How the fuck do they "make money" since they have "school" and are travelling weekly..
>b-but scholarship
Give them some money desu
>>64548907
>Face it, the only reason you don't want them to get paid is because you don't want to see a bunch of young, mostly black men getting rich.
Most college players are white though.
>>64548898
I think part of the reason NFL players are fucked is because they go from making 0 bucks a week to making 70,000 bucks a week in the NFL.
Most minor league baseball and hockey players dont chimp out with cash because they remember making $100 bucks a week with the Jonestown Jags in the minors
>>64548891
Probably so. And they'd probably get tossed out of court, since paying WNBA stars much less than LeBron James is legally permissible.
>>64548925
Most minor league baseball and hockey players aren't black.
>>64548917
yeah muh scholarship is just indentured servitude
>>64548934
minor league baseball is like 50% Dominicans and Venusians though
Doesn't matter. This thread doesn't matter. It won't happen.
Yes. Realistically the degree they are being paid with is going to be half finished and in something useless like criminal justice. Fuck the NCAA.
>>64548925
Precisely, like shit, reward these kids for throwing their bodies out there with some chump change with the university. What's like $200 a week to your starters?
>>64548946
I meant they're not African American. Also, you pulled that number out to f your ass.
>>64548946
>Venusians
What?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venusians
In science fiction and ufology, a Venusian is a native inhabitant of the planet Venus.
>>64548956
criminal justice is giving them too much credit.
Some schools literally have "general education" degrees where they just admit their athletes took a chop suey of whatever "classes" would keep them NCAA eligible
>>64548956
>the black players major in criminal justice en masse
>>64548977
phone fucked up i meant niggas from venezuela
>>64548888
This. Even if the college isn't paying him, there's no reason a player shouldn't be able to sign an endorsement or earn money from another source.
>>64548985
Criminal Justice is the athletics degree at my D1 school. Every school has one.
Get rid of the NCAA
Add a minor league
Bam problem solved
>>64548998
There's a damn good reason why. The NCAA won't see any of that money.
>>64549002
I wish this could happen, but there is way too much money being made for that to happen.
>>64549002
Then colleges lose a major revenue source. They don't want to solve the problem.
Also, I doubt the Columbus Riverhawks will generate as much interest as Notre Dame.
>>64549002
the problem is minor league teams can fail and have to relocate if no one goes to games. NFL cucked cities into funding minor league teams that can never relocate
>>64549002
>>64549023
>>64549026
How about Colleges and Universities just host the teams, without having to go through the motions of acting like the players are actually students? Like, a player CAN be a student as well, but they could also just be an 18 year old who's a great Left Tackle who's playing for the Stanford Cardinal, but isn't attending the school.
>>64549032
Yeah, I think it's a good system. But I'm someone who doesn't care about the players wellbeing though.
>>64549002
no one wants to watch minor league football you tard
>>64549051
people watch fucking high school football, are you high
>tfw the four CFB teams go on strike tomorrow and won't play until they see a cut of that billion dollar TV contract
That would be interesting lads.
>>64549056
Yes. Exactly, they watch HS football and college football. Not minor league or semi pro football.
>>64549041
No because my tuition still supports a team I don't necessarily have any interest in.
>>64548919
I don't think you and me are watching the same college football
>>64549056
Colleges and high schools have a century of tradition behind them. Who wants to see the Ohio State Buckeyes disbanded and replaced with the Columbus Xtreme?
>>64549059
>all lose their scholarships to make a point
>>64549067
He probably goes to a D3 school.
>>64548930
There's a difference between being a professional sports organization and being a college that has to act in accordance with the NCAA's bylaws. Title IX specifically states that women shall not be denied participation in or benefits of any educational program or activity receiving federal funding. There's a solid argument (for public universities, at least) male student-athletes receiving money is a "benefit" of those athletes' participation in the sport; thus depriving female student-athletes of the same benefit would be in violation of Title IX.
>>64549056
because my local pride and history go BHS DRILLERS.
>>64549041
I would prefer the AFL just expanding and every NFL team having an AFL arena affiliate that they sent all their prospects too
No. NCAA gives their profits to schools so they can pay for all the other sports that don't profit.
Athletes get paid via free education, boarding, medical, and traveling to exotic locations sometimes (Hawaii, Bahamas, etc)
Very simple concept. Players always want more.
>>64549079
AFL is almost a different sport. Send them up here, CFL is alot closer to NFL rules
>>64549075
>>64549067
So, we're only talking about division 1?
The NCAA is in charge of DIV 1, DIV 2, and DIV 3
>>64549073
And the universities, bowls, and ESPN lose millions of dollars because the games weren't played.
>>64549090
Yup, lose lose
What's your point? Think they'll strike and be welcomed back next semester? Fuck outta here
>>64549086
>can pay for all the other sports that don't profit
And why exactly should workers that are part of a profitable business have to forfeit their wages to fund a business that loses money? Especially when their bosses earn millions.
>>64549086
I'd honestly support a low but livable wage for them and give them "tickets" for college enrollment. Basically they play full time and once they're done depending on how long they played they're entitled to X amount of years redeemable tuition only at that college if they actually want to study for real, instead of waste time at some shite communications course.
>>64549100
Maybe, maybe not. It worked for Missouri this year.
My point is that it would cause the system to come crashing down, because it would probably inspire other players and programs to do the same thing.
>>64549113
The Power 5 conferences recently agreed to provide student-athletes a "cost of attendance" stipend, starting some time in 2016. This will vary from college to college, but will generally be between $3-5 thousand a semester. This will be on top of whatever scholarship they get.
>>64549120
Worked in Missouri because of race baiting and white guilt. If it's strictly a protest for personal profit it won't work.
>>64549088
nah
bring back NFL Europe and all it's shittyness
Ok, they can get paid but no more athletic scholarships ?
Deal?
>>64549108
Schools arent a business. NCAA is not the athletes boss. It goes athletes<school<ncaa
>>64548798
no, if college athletes had to be paid they would cut every program except men's football and basketball
>>64549130
Why not? That's what strikes are, disagreements over how to divide profit.
The universities, conferences, bowls, coaches, media, etc. would be facing the real possibility of a loss of billions of dollars in revenue. That would get them to the negotiation table.
Not to mention the fact that most (or at least a high percentage) college football players are black, and virtually all the administrators, etc are white. There is a race angle that would definitely be played.
>>64549161
>schools aren't a business
kek
>>64549161
>Schools arent a business.
Problem is that a majority of universities' athletic departments operate at an annual financial loss or, at best, barely break even. It sounds great to say, "hey, set aside 6 million dollars to distribute among the athletes," but in practice, doing so would likely result in jacked-up tuition prices for the rest of the student body.
>>64549161
>schools aren't a business
Sure do make a lot of money for a non-business.
>>64549175
Good!!! Make white and Asian students pay double the tuition cost and give black players who couldn't get into the school unless they played a game time of cash.
I want to see what happens lol
>>64549175
>jacked-up tuition prices for the rest of the student body
That's been happening rapidly for 30 years, and big time sports are only a small reason for it.
Anyway, don't blame the sports that make money. Blame the sports that no one watches.
>>64549161
>Schools arent a business.
>>64549171
>>64549172
>>64549177
I'm not going to get into here but just Google " Why schools aren't a business" . I understand why a lot of people would think they are though, but it's not, it's an establishment of learning not business transactions.
>>64549161
>Schools arent a business.
>>64549214
>>64549214
>He's doubling down
>>64549234
how the fuck does that not make it a business?
what are "business transactions"?
last time I checked a university is an organization that sells a service and hires both people to provide that service and people to maintenance the organization
for all intensive purposes we should treat them like businesses despite whatever technicality some blogger you read found
>>64549161
>>64549280
meant >>64549214
not >>64549234
>>64548879
Sounds like they go to school to prepare for a future carrier. Just like everyone else. Oh, wait they go for free.
>>64549357
Stop it, these are too clever.
>>64548798
No, but handouts should be allowed and the NFL should have a minor league so niggers don't have to play school to get into the pros.
>>64548925
Of course doing something sensible like taking a basic financial courses or just talking to a professor about who they could recommend for wealth management is impossible on university campuses.
>>64548798
Yes.
>How?
Conference revenue sharing.
Salary cap.
FIXED IT BRUH
>>64549155
This would be hilarious.
>get 100,000 / year to attend Notre Dame
>buy a corvette instead of pay college bills
>forget it's taxable income
>prepare for NFL from legendary inmate coach Aaron Hernandez
>>64548798
Yes
It's called the recruiting process
why? Theyre already getting fast tracks through college other people have to shell out thousands of dollars for, and they voluntarily sign up for football
not to mention whatever endorsements theyre getting from commercials
>>64548930
This is probably the stupidest post I've ever read. I'm not even sure you took a moment to figure out what title IX is.
>>64548798
"get paid" is a complicated term. If you mean having contracts like in pro sports than no. But like royalties form jersey sales and other shit like that then yeah. if you want to just pay them like pro athletes then just high school kids go pro.
and also don't restrict them from switching schools. And don't take scholarships away if they suffer injuries.
>>64548798
You just wait in tell Berny Snaders is president free weed, collage and student athlete get paid to play.
#feelthebern
>>64550171
and it sucks apparently
>>64548876
still has that college education
>>64548888
this
>should student athletes be paid
No.
There's too many undeserving hands that'll be reaching for their slice of the pie. Women's water polo and weird shit like that don't deserve to be paid since they're leeching off the money maker college football and college basketball programs.
College football and college basketball should change into a legitimate minor league system for the pros and separate from universities.
There's a lot of money to be made there no doubt, but in this current system if players are allowed to be paid you'd have to pay every student athlete.
Or the easy fix is to allow all college athletes to make money off their likeness. Video games, commercials, endorsements, etc. That way the free market can decide what they're worth and shitty athletes in sports nobody watches won't be taking their money.
>>64549067
Are you retarded or do you honestly think football is the only college sport that exists? Not to mention that if they go pro, they'll be making millions anyway, you made a huge moot point out of your pure BBC cuck obsession.
College football has more racial parity than the NFL, mostly because white students actually use their scholarship as an opportunity to get a degree and decide to not go pro. These athletes are getting free degrees, from schools where tuition is in the the tens of thousands, along with free room and board. They're paid far more than the kid who had to take out loans or needs to maintain good grades if they have an academic scholarship.
>Universities are institutions designed to help the athletic and economic development of retards instead of fostering actual learning
>people will defend sinking millions into athletic programs and full ride scholarships
>meanwhile students who will actually do something worthwhile get half the financial aid and educational support while they pay 60,000 a year
>abloo bloo bloo the poor poor athletes don't have a salary with their free degree they didn't pay for
College sports should be abolished
>>64552339
the history behind it is just too much senpai
No fuck them. All they have to do is play a game a few times a year and they get a free ride and several perks. The as repayment for this kindness they fuck around as much as possible on campus and don't pay attention in classes but still get by. College athletes are nobodies until they go pro. The school makes an investment in them and then recoups the money by selling merchandise. That's how it should be
>>64548798
With real money? fuck no the mentally retarded fucks already get a free "education".
>>64548828
This.
Here's an idea. Anyone whining about getting paid and aren't appreciative of the free ride are now denied entrance to universities. No longer do they have that required platform to reach the NFL. Then the colleges just take the new line of athletes willing to play for an education and all teams are still on even ground and competitive. gg to the whiners because you are now working at Taco Bell
>>64548898
At least at my university (big basketball team) the team is paid for through donations and gifts, not our tuition.
All top tier football and basketball recruits get paid under the table
>>64548835
That's how the Ivies do it, at least in theory.
They get paid thousands and thousands of dollars in free tuition money. Fuck them
Sure, in non-refundable on-campus-use-only income, like money added to the purses on your student ID card. If they're basketball or football, they're already getting free tuition, free dorm, free meal plan, and other benefits.
>>64548798
No, they are already getting more than half of their education paid for
They can get paid more even if they remove free tuition.
>>64549041
Sounds too much like common sense burgerland, what if someone's freedom gets impaired by your non-communist ideas?
They won't
Because of Title IX
>>64548835
Sure, pay them $1,000/week and take away the scholarships. Everyone wins.
They do with scholarships and merchandise. When i was at college all the players had new Adidas clothes everyday.
>>64548842
i get free college from financial/merit based aid
and i get free pussy because it's college, everyone gets laid
but i dont have to take classes and bust my ass on the field. they should be paid, they rack in millions for my school
>>64550073
niggers literally are not on campus except for football practice
>>64549370
AAA baseball players make 40k a year cut these kids a check and quit pretending they go to school
Think about it. Wouldn't it be somewhat beneficial for college players to get paid. I mean, if they players start earning, let's say hundreds a week won't it weed out those players who have no self control and immediately go into drugs or basically get caught up in some bad money choices or something. Therefore the more responsible players will go on into the NFL so there'd be less wasted picks like Blackmon from ruining draft picks. Idk just something I've thought about
>>64552039
the NBA has the D league for their minor leagues NFL has NOTHING
>in this thread
a bunch of idiots who think the vast majority of Universities actually make money on any sport at all. Including football.
I bet you clowns think the NCAA just rolls in money too
Not by the school, but by something like selling autographed memorabilia I see nothing wrong with benefiting financially from.
>>64548798
They should get an NCAA-set percent of revenue from sale of merchandise bearing their name and likeness
>>64548798
Not million dollar salaries, but enough to live off of.
I still don't know why people can get scholarships for dumb sports that no one gives a shit about like water polo, and why my tuition money should be going towards paying for those scholarships. Communism is dumb.
>>64560275
i had no idea someone could be this dumb, then i read your post
>>64560275
>implying sec on cbs
>I care about the income that is generated by Chads that make fun of me and would bully if they had any chance
This is the biggest cuck thread of the week desu.
I'm a D1 Track and Field athlete at a small school. Athletes should absolutely not get paid.
Athletes get an incredible amount of preferential treatment already. Earlier scheduling of classes, free shoes/shirts/other misc. Gear, specialized weight rooms, extended due dates on papers/projects(Depending on professors), the list goes on.
Scholarships are more than enough for athletes. We are given the opprotunity to come to school and learn, as well as competition in our respective sports. Athletes should be happy with that, I know I am.
>>64560157
>and i get free pussy because it's college, everyone gets laid
>you get pussy
This thread is absolute gold
>>64549000
mine's television and film
>>64569043
>>64549000
African-American & African studies or Communication at Ohio State. You can actually look up the majors of everyone on the roster: https://directory.osu.edu
Even Cameron Johnston, the Aussie punter, is in sports industry education. Pic related
why does the NCAA even need all that money.
book sales alone should keep the entire structure running fine.
literally wtf they have so many time slots for amateur ball.
i just don't fucking get how you can change one fucking word in a book from year to year and force you to buy the new edition.
seriously what in the fucking shit.
>>64548835
I kinda like this idea, then no one school would dominate a sport
They should not get paid because they already have scholarships but the NCAA should not regulate the stuff they do outside of sport. They are adults ffs why can't they get endorsements and ads if they want
>Yes, I'd like a higher tuition to subsidize a sports team
