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>le fancy ball control man
>le go missing for 90% of a season but no one remembers man
>le 1 fancy dribble/pass per 5 shit games man

Is there a bigger fraud in modern football than this man?

Because he lucky scored a few important goals he's really fooled people into thinking he was anything above a top 20 midfielder of his generation.
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Hell laurdup and inesta are a class above this faker just off the top of my head. It makes me mad people watch a few youtube clips and think he is the undisputed goat. there were always better players in his goddman teams, Nedved was much more important to juventus.
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inb4 fedora dog
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wew
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This man won more international trophies than the whole country of England did in it's entire history
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>>64491416
I guess if trophies is all that matters any random shitter that was lucly enough to be carried than a good team is better than messi?

Fuck off you shitter. It should be embrassing to even have this meme attached to your country.
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>>64491416
Wes Brown won more CLs than Zidane.
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>>64491559
>zidane
>meme

oh boy shitposting just reached a new level
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>>64491559

>all this mad

Fact: Trophies = championships = a metric of quality. Superlative quality at that.

Why is England so shitty at everything?

Let's review:
>soccer
>rugby
>racing
>boxing
>Maintaining a global presence
>dentistry

Don't forget to renew your TV license, Reginald Mahmoud Al-London.
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>>64491801
Mexico is worse at all of them.
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>>64491801
build wall, pedro.
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>>64491801
>literally the fattest nation
>literally living in poverty
>shit at sports

How are you even getting internet? haven't you got lawns to mow?
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>gr8 all season but flops when it matters
vs
>invisible all season but goat when needed
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>>64491801
in the next post i'm predicting you will mention bencharito the best athlete you have produced, the only sport you are relevant in is forming cartels and beheading
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>>64491842

>implying I'm mexican and not vacationing, posting via hotel wifi

But even so
>implying Mexico isn't home to some of the world's best athletes and isn't vastly larger than England

Especially in boxing.

Nice try dude. The world cannot expect quality anything from a place where Mohammed and Muhammad are the 1st and 10th most popular birth names in its capitol city.
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>>64491186
>Is there a bigger fraud in modern football than this man?
scholes
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>>64491186

>le go missing for 90% of a season but no one remembers man

But you rememeber? You watched all his games against Bologna and Getafe then?
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>>64492073
I will assume you're an Amerifat and let you know that America is worse at all of those, as well as Mexico. Glad to see you're giving your family a visit for crimbo though.
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>>64491801
>soccer
mexico's greatest achievement is losing to the netherlands
>rugby
lmao
>racing
Has a mexican't ever won the F1?
>boxing
You're alright at boxing.
>maintaining a global presence
You're really good at fence hopping too, I must admit.
>dentistry
Not even going to talk about this one.
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>>64491916
>>64491950
>>64492023

Did I strike a nerve? Be careful what you say, I might report you to Her Majesty's Royal Police who will imprison you for racism and anti-social behavior.

No amount of slurs against Mexicans (I am not even Mexican lmao) will change the fact that England is a fucking joke in Athletics and went from the Sun never setting on it to a cucked island, of which half wants to leave.
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>>64492152
>Has a mexican't ever won the F1?
Being curious, I looked it up. Mexico's greatest F1 achievement is winning a GP. You can't make this shit up.
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>>64492170
It could be worse, I could be mexican and live in a poverty striken shithole where i fear for my life everyday.
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>>64491842
>this defence mechanism

If you didn't watch Zidane play from at least his Juventus days (pre 2000) then your opinion means fuck all.

Zidane isn't the best of all time, but he was certainly up there while he was playing compared to others of the time.
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>>64492270
Sounds like England in 5 years once Sharia kicks in
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>>64492270

I might give a fuck if I was Mexican. It's beautiful here, but I really wish I could live somewhere that it rained all day and I wasn't allowed on the streets unless I was wearing my government-issue Burqa and had my streetwalking license in my pocket.
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>>64492303
Dont you have to get shot somewhere? also
>american in a football thread
top kek
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>>64492319
Either way you are fat and not worth my time.
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>>64491186
Wrong picture m8

FTFY
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>>64491781
Im not saying he wasnt good, he was world class and had amazing technique. but it is seriously popular opition that he is top 10 all time with is an isult. He was invisible for games at a time and even the madrid fans started to boo him at one point. He was lucky to be bailed out by others like inzaghi. Everyone cites his WC's but forget the fact he was often invisible too, until he got lucky in finals. Players like Henry, viera, ribery were all more important. He also has weak stats (not saying stats are everything) but against other great midfielder it speaks volumes.
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take away his lucky CL blooter and he'd only be remembered for the WC headbutt
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>>64492366
Your country is literally becoming a caliphate

>Brit in any thread on any topic

Christ, you're pathetic. I can just see you right now, midnight in your little slum with your yellow buck teeth in the dark staring at the glowing computer screen with your disgusting fingers and scrawny body

Ugh, you're fucking disgusting
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>>64492614
your country is literally becoming a ghetto, are you posting to keep yourself busy while jamal quintin ladanian the third is drilling your wife and his kids are spending your money?
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Where did this new Zidane was shit meme come from? Is everyone on this board underage?
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>>64492784

I don't think people are saying he's shit, most acknowledge he was brilliant at times and consistently good. Just vastly overrated (top 10 all time footballers) after retiring like le fake quotes man

At least that's what I think is going on here
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>>64491186
shaking my head
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>>64491374
Zidane was elite
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>>64492761
>your country is literally becoming a ghetto

>no you!!!!!

Great comeback

Take a shower you disgusting fucking pig
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>>64491186

And yet he was better than any player in the history of English football
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>>64492959
He was also richer than every Colombian combined.
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>>64492923
I was attempting to show you how poor your argument was but clearly it went over your head you inbred fuck
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He was good but he was never on the level of even someone like Modric in terms of consistency
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>>64492998

>What are drug lords
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>>64492998

>Zidane was richer than Pablo Escobar
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>>64493075
Escobar wasn't rich, he just had a lot of money
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>>64491801
I could never make a post like this because I know my country is shit and the UK is definitely better. How can a mexican do this? Do you literally have no self-awareness?
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>>64493106
I don't know how to respond to this
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>>64492998

>being this mad

What does wealth have to do with this thread anyway
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>>64492073
>vacation
>in Mexico

It'd been better if you just admitted you were Mexican
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>>64493002
>show how poor your argument is by saying "no you!!!!"

Fucking lmao, what a pussy you are. Cry more you little pussy

I can smell your pussy tears from here, faggot

>s-s-s-stop being mean!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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>>64493210
Same here man
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>>64491559
>this bitch nigga doesn't understand that in order to be in a winning team you have to do your fucking part or u get benched
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>>64493262
TBF, everyone does vacation in Mexico. I mean MTV used to have their spring breaks in Mexico. Now that doesn't mean anon is somehow not Mexican, because he probably is
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>>64493271
you're saying pussy a lot, is it because jamal is inside your wife's, or is it your sister?
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>>64491186
Hello darling
first and foremost, I just want to tell you that I love you.
Why don't you join me in /nba thread. Football is so trashy nowadays to be honnest.
Honnesty is something unseen in football for ages.
Why there is still no video referring while FIFA is so loaded of cash, tell me my love.
I kiss your ass cheeks
Best regards.
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>>64493555
>apehoop
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this brit shitposting about footy is near the amerikek level, or they're just jealous that they never produced a player like zizou
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>>64493641
Shut up 7-1

Check 'em

you cucker cuck clock tick tock clock cuck
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>le score a few 35 yard blooters man
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>>64493750
shut the fuck up you fat fuck, go eat some greens you morbid whale
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>>64493106
tumblr bob marley pls go
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>>64493579
Hello my beloved soulmate.
It will help me a lot to have more explanations from you.
I love you .
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>>64491801

You can't really shit on another country about any of those things when you are joke-tier yourself at them. Especially not when those brit fucks have the world heavy weight boxing and f1 champions.
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>>64494055
there is no competition in F1, only richfags plays it it is not even a sport to be honnest.
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>>64494318

I'm not going to weigh the relative merits of race car driving with you. I'll just point out that he tried to shit on the UK for racing, which is fundamentally flawed.
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>>64494381
I agree with you when you said that this fucking mexican is a wanker.
But racing is like sailing, women sports, winter sports, disabled sports are fucking irrelevant because there is no competion. Even mandrama is more relevant my dear friend.
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>>64493880
Make me, 71

Check 'em again you cucker cuck suck fuck
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>>64494718

I agree entirely, Pierre.
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>>64493106
>>64493210
>>64493277
wow man searched for a jpg. or gif for 10mins, but I could not come up with a reaction
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>>64491636
tbf wes brown wasn't terrible most of the times but on the way he became permacrock
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Lampard career goals: 262
Zidane career goals: 125
Lampard goals per game: 0.29 with several seasons at West Ham
Zidane goals per game: 0.18 playing for title challengers only
Lampard 20 goal seasons: 5
Zidane 20 goal seasons: 0
Lampard 10 goal seasons: 12
Zidane 10 goal seasons: 6
Lampard league titles: 3
Zidane league titles: 3
Lampard domestic cups: 6
Zidane domestic cups: 0 (zero)
Lampard intertoto cups: 1
Zidane intertoto cups: 2
Lampard UEFA Cups/Europa Leagues: 1
Zidane UEFA Cups/Europa Leagues: 0
Lampard Champions Leagues: 1
Zidane Champions Leagues: 1
Lampard CL final goals: 1
Zidane CL final goals: 1
Lampard CL goals: 23
Zidane CL goals: Not even listed in the top 50 all time
Clubs Lampard is all time top scorer for: 1
Clubs Zidane is all time top scorer for: 1
Lampard red cards in world cup finals: 0
Zidane red cards in world cup finals: 1

I'll let you make your minds up
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>>64496530
do scholes next
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>>64496530
>goal stats for midfielders
>team stats

why'd you even try?
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>I don't rate Zidane
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>>64495045
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.


I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type 7-1 and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the picture. The "epic" 7-1 webm, isn't it? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan posting about a match that happened a year and half ago. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic fat fuck NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "7-1 7-1 7-1 7-1 kek cuck." You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.
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>show up for 3 seasons
>become a shit Ben Arfa/Taarabt for the following 10
>people claim he deserves to be considered one of the greatest players of all time

Same is true of Ronaldo de Lima too
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>>64497012
i can only imagine what would you be saying if he was a brit, the fucked up teeth he already have
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>>64495194
Let me provide friend
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That Zidane is overrated as fuck is someone that saw more than 3 of his games knows, but here in sp all this underaged will tell you that you're wrong because they saw a youtube video
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>>64496530
>Lampard intertoto cups: 1
>Zidane intertoto cups: 2
>Lampard UEFA Cups/Europa Leagues: 1
>Zidane UEFA Cups/Europa Leagues: 0

lel

Zidane UEFA Super Cups: 2
Lampard UEFA Super Cups: 0

Zidane Intercontinental Cups: 2
Lampard IC Cups/FIFA CWC: 0

See? I can also play this game.
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>>64497154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T56TnDnmARg
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>>64497592
My flag also means that he played in my stupid country every week and I had plenty of chances to watch him play.

But show me more youtube videos please, it will make me stop thinking that those who rate him are underaged youtube peasants
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>>64497592

>you now remember william gallas
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>>64497592
>spain says everyone who rates Zidane does so because of youtube videos rather than watching him live
>post a youtube video (of a pretty irrelevant goal) to prove him wrong
are you literally retarded?
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>>64497642
... and it's goodbye spain !
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>>64497736
Your words hurt me Muhammad.

Now you consider that I'm catalan and I've enjoyed all Spain loses like nobody else
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>>64497719

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek
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Zidane was a really great player, the whole 'is he a GOAT' discussion or the TOP10 lists or whatever is just media shit. So he might be "overrated" by the mass public but anyone who knows about this sport should recognize Zidane's greatness.
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>>64496530
Holy shit I can't believe you took the time to type that shit out

Face it, Zizou was a bigger talent than anything England has ever produced
The fact that he won a WC and then carried his team to another WC final in his last season is enough to make him a legend
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>>64491186
shaking my head on this OP. 2bh
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The only really overrated player in history. Literally a good marketer and an awful player.
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>>64497719
see this >>64497789

not only he might be butthurt of that goal and thus
won't be objective talking about him, but worse, he is a barça fan, i'm sure they are not
the most objective people talking about madrid players. read between the lines faggot ;)
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>>64497930
He's handsome though. That's all that matters.
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>>64497789

Relax, Munir. He's just trolling.
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>>64497961
>a valid point is null because the poster MIGHT be biased at a pretty irrelevant goal scored against his NT
still retarded
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>>64491186
>being this mad Zizou literally btfo Englel in 2004 euro after Englel were up 1-0
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>>64497965

Its what it all boil down to desufam
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>>64497961
Don't be so sad my algerian friend, stop implying stupid things please. If it helps you, he's as overrated as Iniesta, but stop implying stupid things Karim, remember that you belong to the religion of peace.
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>>64498200
>Iniesta
>overrated
tons of people call him a Xavibabby who can't pull his own weight
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>>64498097
the only retard around here is you.
that post was more of a troll/ballbusting attempt, then he really revealed that his (irrelevant) opinion is biased, because he's a fan of madrid's rival.

go play with your father's dick son.
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Official list of overrated players:

>Gerrard
>Casillas
>Riquelme
>Higuaín
>Dida
>Forlan
>Ballack
>Kaka
>Ribery
>Buffon
>Tevez
>Totti
>Berbatov
>Falcao
>Di María
>Agüero
>Ballotelli

The rest is irrelevant
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>giving a shit about soccer
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>>64498200
>>64491186
>>64497719
>>64498097

Pele: Zidane is the master. Over the past 10 years, there’s been no one like him, he has been the best player in the world.

Cesare Maldini: I would give up five players to have Zidane in my squad.

Xabi Alonso: What he could do with a football is a dream for most of us.

Marco Materazzi: Zidane has won that award because of what he has done on the pitch. He was the best… I have always admired Zidane…
In fact, I have one of his shirts in my closet. We exchanged our shirts after a Juventus vs Perugia game.

Marcello Lippi: Zidane is probably the best player there has been in the past 20 years. France have recovered the best Zidane and they have progressively grown throughout this tournament.

Rivaldo: I really enjoy watching Zinedine Zidane. His elegance of movement on the pitch and his skill are uncanny. Apart from being an impressive player, he is also very humble and very likeable as a person. A great man.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic: Zidane is from another planet. When Zidane stepped onto the pitch, the 10 other guys just got suddenly better. It is that simple.
>B-But what about tha barça fan's opinion

fucking 4chan virgins man.
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>>64498552
>Paying attention to the most plastic fanbase in the football universe
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>>64497930
You presumably posted this to try and offend but it is a commonly held opinion in England.
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>>64496907
>7-1
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>i don't rate zidane
>mfw
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>>64493106
>you
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>>64492152
Fucker, you better not talk about dentistry because you'd get your ass embarrassed, what the fuck you even know about it? Tons of Americans come to Mexico because of its dentistry, and I bet it's not only because its cheaper, not one of those fat ignorant racist fucks would put a feet on this country if it was only because a matter of money.
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>>64492784
Yup
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>le overrated hothead sandnigger
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guys can't we all just get along?
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>>64500471
I wish
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>>64492152
what you negros dont even have a fucking F1 racer and yet you talk shit
lmaoooo
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>>64493555
WITNESSED. TRIPS OF TRUTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>64492005
Said the most irrelevant country in football

kek
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>>64491801

>gui'varch is one of the best footballers in history

Mexico logic.
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>>64492998
Man you're retarded
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I am more interested in this "Laudrup was better than Zidane" meme. How and when did that start?
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>>64491186
0/10
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le hyperbolic brit face
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>>64491186
>look it's this thread again

Why does England hate him so much that they keep on posting sit about him. it's not like he's still playing. I mean maybe he's overrated, but fans of the team he's won championships remember him fondly, do you guys hate the fact that people like him?

Is it because he's french? Do you think you and france still have a rivalry. inb4 algerian
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>>64492516
Cristinaldo

> No fancy control, can't dribble for shit anymore
> Scores in 90% of games against small teams, goes missing in big games

Yet is still the bigger fraud compared to Zidane. He's not even top10 player anymore, the only thing keeping him top of the voting lists is his image & retarded fans.
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>>64506592
>says the eternally obsessed autist
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>>64497012
Clearly you're a 12yo who's not seen either of them play.
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>>64506459
Its literally true. So are inesta, xavi and pirlo.
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>>64498552
Is Zidane the French Paul Scholes??
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>>64491186
>daily reminder that Zidane threw a World Cup away due to being unable to handle the banter
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>>64506924
>daily reminder that the Netherlands have NEVER won a WC despite having some of the most stacked teams ever
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he's a top 10 player of all time
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>>64491186

Zidanes goals and assists were utterly irrelevant.
Nobody could control or dominate a game like Zidane could.

He was a pleasure to watch, and made an absolute bitch out of basically everyone who tried to mark him.

His control was unrivalled at the time with the exception of Ronaldinho perhaps, and he managed to do this whilst smoking a few fegs at half time
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>>64506714
>two GOATs in one pic
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Do people unironically say Zidane is the GOAT ? I can see him maybe being top 10 for some people but not even the thickest nostalgia glasses would make him the GOAT.
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>>64498552
>When Zidane stepped onto the pitch, the 10 other guys just got suddenly better.
this.
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>>64508168
Why did he only win 3 league titles and 1 CL in 10 years of playing on world's best teams then? His Juve and Real teams were by far the most talented in the league, so if Zidane made those 10 guys even better they should walk the league every year. It doesn't really add up
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>>64497012
at least he was a GOD for 3 seasons. Baldy is probably the Thomas Müller of this generation. Great at what he does but you only see that spark of genius like three or four times the entire season.

Modric is currently the heart and soul of Halal's midfield, but he will never be held in such high regard as Zidane because he can't trap the ball with his penis twice in his lifetime. Also, Zidane had an amazing team wherever he played.
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>>64508194

Serie A then had actual parity, something that doesn't exist these days. And Real Madrid became a mess after the 02/03 season.
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>>64515534
Not every leauge is bayernwinslol or leliga. Epl is goat this season.
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>>64515534
So, if Serie A had so many great teams that prevented that stacked Juve team from winning the league then I guess that means they dominated the CL? Wrong, every team other than Juve amounted to shit in the CL and most of them got BTFO in the group stages.

>And Real Madrid became a mess after the 02/03 season.
Why didn't he make them better? The poster I replied to said "When Zidane stepped onto the pitch, the 10 other guys just got suddenly better.
this.". Why didn't he make his 03-06 Real teammates better? It's not like they were complete scrubs, they still had Casillas, Carlos, Figo, Beckham, Ronaldo and Raul.
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>know 60 old people who watched pretty much all the WCs/Euros/CLs and ocassionaly Premier Divisions, especially Serie A when it was miles ahead of EPLEL since 70s or 80s
>majoriy WILL tell you Zizou was an excellent player, not the best ever, but one of the well deserved GOATs
>15 year olds contrarians on /sp/ will tell you he's 'le not even top 10 MFs'
hmm, tough choice, tough choice. I think I'll go with /sp/, all are former athletes or football experts in here.
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>>64498241

>Buffon
>Tevez

Explain family
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>>64519083
and I think too many autists read that one german blog about Zidane where some autist goes on to describe how Zizou's MF style is repetitive, predictable and inefficient. This is up there with that one other heavyweight boxing blog that proves that statistically Wladimir Klitschko is like literally godly the best HW ever.

Remember kids: never trust statisticians, they will always manipulate the data to come to a result they want or otherwise how would their contrarian blog get enough views?
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Platini was more overrated

France has never produced an elite player but lot of people rate them to be amongst the best in the world
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>>64519216
henry, zizou and cantona are pretty elite. The French are definitely overrated though
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>>64519248
Henry was the best player they've ever produced and he played half of his career in shite leagues like the French one, American one or English one
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>>64519275


Eplel wasnt meme tier when henry was there.
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>>64519311
0 (zero) champions leagues
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>>64519275
Aye, the Argentinian one is definitely higher class. EPLEL was best in earlier-mid-late 00s and Henry was a top scorer there when competition was pretty tough.
Even today EPLEL is the best, albeit only marginally.

>>64519317
I hope you realize that winning a CL is a result of playing in a good team. Since quite a long time now, a single talent, or "THE ONE MAN" will never win the CL by himself or even influence it so much.
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>>64519317
U wot?
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>>64519347
I think he's saying he never won a CL with Arsenal
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>>64519347
We were talking about his time in the "English" "Premier" League

>>64519339
>Even today EPLEL is the best
Sorry, I must discard your opinions, "Moldova"
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>>64519387
which one is better, Federico? Name it concretely
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>>64519421
The Spanish league
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>>64519378
>>64519387
It's a legit knock on him then, I'll admit that. Those early 00s Arsenal teams were stacked and definitely underachieved in Europe
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>>64519147
He also said riquelme
He must be a River fan.

>tevez
>the guy who won trophies in almost every club he's been
>overrated

>buffon
>overrated
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>>64519436
the top spanish teams are better than the EPLEL top teams
the mid table spanish teams are worse than the EPLEL mid table teams
the bottom spanish teams are also worse than the EPLEL bottom teams

and the mid table spanish teams are percentage worse than the EPLEL mid table teams than the top Spanish are better than English top, so I don't know.
I'll give you credit for not naming any other one though. As I said, EPL is still marginally better, because of tougher competition and a higher level of equality. Besides, Madrid and Barca are the teams with the highest investments, of course they are going to be better.
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>>64519506
>the mid table spanish teams are worse than the EPLEL mid table teams
>the bottom spanish teams are also worse than the EPLEL bottom teams
'no'

The objective way to compare middle table teams is the Europa League and Spaniards also dominate it
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>>64519506
I like how the only two arguments for EPL still being the best are "b-but more people watch it" and a completely unverifiable claim that a team like Bournemouth would beat a team like Sociedad.
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>>64519598
I think he thinks bottom English clubs are the best bottom clubs in the world because English football is so shit than bad clubs defeat top clubs quite often

That doesn't mean the bottom clubs are good but shows the top clubs are a joke
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>>64519598
I didn't make either of those arguments
>>64519539
last year only. If you base "recent" on 1 year only history, sure. Remember that Liverpoo is a mid table team this year around and they got a chance at winning the whole thing. Or Spurs, but those are higher up I guess. Or Manure-soon-to-be-mid table team
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>>64519706
>I didn't make either of those arguments
Except that you literally did

>the bottom spanish teams are also worse than the EPLEL bottom teams
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>>64519706
The point is, all Villarreal, Valencia, Atlético or Sevilla would defeat United, Spurs or Liverpool
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>>64519727
oh, my bad.

>>64519747
can't be sure until we see what awaits us in 2016
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>>64519766
Atletico is better than all the eplel teams
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>>64493224
Oy vey
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>>64508194
>Why did he only win 3 league titles and 1 CL in 10 years of playing on world's best teams then?
gotta love how that argument is always used against zidane and never against ronaldo
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