Reminder that 2018 is likely to be Messi's last chance to lift the FIFA World Cup Trophy and become the undisputed GOAT.
>>64429372
He still will be remembered as having one only one WC with possibly the greatest Argentinian team of all time
He'll never win it.
too bad France will win it.
>implying he isn't the GOAT
>implying some meme corrupt organizations trophy means anything
>be irish
>mfw when I see a thick ass
>>64429402
Won*
>>64429412
You mean Qatar.
>>64429436
>Qatar
>2018
>Moroccan education
>>64429372
>become the undisputed GOAT
There have been tons of GOATs who didn't win it
>>64429372
>tfw Based robben never will win
>>64429463
Yes, but messi is literally the undisputed GOAT of GOAT's
>>64429463
But they are not undisputed
>le walk around the pitch all game long even though i'm only 27 man
top lel m8, he'll be 31 by then, argentina will play him as a CF and i'll honestly be surprised if he ever leaves the penalty spot during a game.
after all the shit he has to put with despite leading argentina to 2 finals i'm not sure he cares about a WC anymore desu
>le 'you have to win a WC to be the GOAT' meme
Messi is GOD, you fucking cunts. Ten fucking years playing at the highest level. Messias will win more two or three Champions League and more three or four Ballons d'Or, and you faggots can't do any-fucking-thing about it. He's the ultimate footballer, a blessing from the Universe, a gift from the gods. Get on your knees and give thanks for the incredible opportunity to see Messi play.
>>64429406
this tbqh.
>>64429768
> despite leading argentina to 2 finals
kek
>>64429770
>there are faggots who unironically think like this
>>64429770
There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is His messenger.
>>64429770
>no wc = no ultimate goat
Simple.
>>64429786
well, by leading i meant he was one of your best players in those campaigns, i'm not saying he carried argentina on his back or anything of the sort
>>64429834
>Reaching Copa America final is an achievement
More like NOT reaching it is a fucking catastrophe, like 2011 was
Hes the GOAT sice 2010. anyway, WC or not
>>64429850
(4-1)
Implying he's not the GOAT. It's not even a question. Sure I think it would be good if he won a cup for Argentina but seriously, it doesn't even matter that much
>>64429907
it does. Unlike Barsa, he's outside his confort zone .
>>64429814
shitposting
Argentina doesn't deserve Messi.
>>64430004
It's does for Argentina. For the rest of the world, no.
>>64430004
doesn't AFA do whatever he wants? Hires managers he wants, sacks players he doesn't like, etc?
>>64429402
>greatest argentinian team of all time
Underage please go
>>64429372
Not on my watch.
>>64430077
no. he wanted Tevez and they didnt add him
>le 7-game tournament decides the GOAT
He's going to disappear in the final, if they get to the final
>Messhit in big games
What goes wrong?
>>64430159
this flag this topic etc.
SYSTEM BABBY
>>64430140
this. if Tevez was in Brazil or on the field at the end of the Copa instead of Higuain
>>64430201
>tevez with the chances higuain got
Nazis would've never won tbqh
>>64430201
if only*
>>64430166
>your daughter
>her Hyman
>>64430140
But he didn't want Tevez.. or am I mistaken?
>>64430233
>believing internet clickbait maymays
>>64430186
Check Barca's trophies b4 and after Messi. He's more of a system father than baby. Even Argentina has best resoults with him since Maradonas era. Argentina was better in last years final anyway, only unlucky unlike 1986
>>64430224
>your shitposting
>outdated shit
>Maradona
Cheat to get to a World Cup final(Scored a GOAT goal though. Would've been 1-1 though without the Hand of God)
>Messi
Gets to a world cup final, but sadly loses
I wonder who's better. Hmmmm?
>hurrr he's not the best
All of you are getting coal in your stockings you fucking faggots
>>64430267
Or even worse. Argies prefer a crazy narco cheater over an hardworking humble and shy family guy. Not that I hate Diego but I don't get the Messi hate.
>>64430244
Yeah, that had nothing to do with the best ever Spain generation who won 3 int tournaments in a row, no it was all messi..
>>64429768
he's not helping in defense as much not only because of his age, but also because Luis Enrique wants Barcelona to play more direct and explore counter-attacks. Having either Suárez or Messi up front is crucial and this strategy has been successful.
>>64429372
How he king with no ring?
>>64429372
Reminder that the US has a better chance of winning the cup in 2018 than cuckentina does
>>64429372I like how the same fags who downplay messi achievements like CLs because they call him a system baby are the same fags which by some miracle messi wins the world cup these same fags would be first in line to say it was the team not messi hurrrr system baby hurrrr deep.
theres no satisfying you ronaldo dick riders , or what ever dick you guys ride, Just admit no forward is better than messi
>>64430324
Wow 3 whole players (Pique, Xavi and Iniesta) definitely carried Messi to all those trophies he won
>>64430335
it's not about defending, he's always walking unless he's got the ball at his feet. he never tries to unmark himself, he doesn't move around looking for space and more chances on the ball, nothing. ever. it may work for barcelona because they're overall much better than argentina, but doing that for an argentina side who's barely creative as it is can only be defined as complacency or straight up stupid.
that's why di maria is always one of their best players, he gives everything he's got every game and is extremely dynamic, unlike the autistic sprite-drinking manlet
>>64430324
Messi showed them the way :^)
>>64430305
>humble
He has good pr
>>64430233
>believing south american dirtsheets
>>64430004
It doesn't, did you forget AFA runs the national team?
Those fuckers can't even run an election properly.
>>64430432
I like how you're complaining about absolutely fucking nothing
>>64430505
I like how you're avoiding any actual discussion
>>64430305
There are more people who hate Maradona than people who hate Messi here
thank you based götze
>>64430224
>settlers
>>64429402
>the greatest Argentinian team of all time
Then I took a look at your flag.
>>64429402
>Argentina has a stacked team
This is my favourite meme, we are literally Messi +10 random guys. Have you seen our NT without Messi? We can't even defeat Ecuador at home
>>64430551
Mascherano usually plays well too desu.
Other than that it's an utter shitshow. Even the big names like Aguero or Di Maria always choke or get injured during tournaments
>>64430551
They aren't random guys. Our manager is retarded, that's the problem. I'm not saying I could do better, I have no idea how to fix our NT but the problem isn't the players it's how the manager is making those players play.
This topic really triggers me, I shouldn't even be posting on 4chan at this time but it makes me mad as fuck. At this rate we're not even getting to the finals next WC
>>64430224
seems like reliable news from a trusted source.
>>64430551
Looks like your players have too much pressure in NT. Good club players like Pipita, Aguero, Tevez etc play like shit for NT.
>>64430612
There is nothing we can do to fix it
Only European nations will keep winning world cups, our players only play 5 matches per year together whikle Spanish, French, English and German players play every weeks
>>64430626
That's because almost every Argie player on their NT plays Hero-ball, and it's has been like that since Maradona.
The problem is that lightning doesn't strike twice on the same place.
>tfw he'll win the cup on a cold night in Moscow
>>64429402
>that flag
>this topic
>>64430670
That is because all of our great players go to europe and all yurop coaches make them play in the same fucking position(aka. second striker-number 10-false nine). The last goat midfield we had was in 2007, with Riquelme, Veron and pre-Barsa Mascherano(he now plays as centerback).
Look at the future. Last year 6 thousand argies left to play in other countries. ¡¡Six thousand!! How the fuck do you get a team going when the players are spread throughout the world, being mostly used in the same positions? Keep in mind the last two world champions built their teams around the backbone of an already established local team(barca, buyern). Not only we do not have that, but right now we are not producing as many great midfielders as before.
>>64430305
Maradona=heart
>>64430917
More like Maradonna=cocaine
>>64431008
Therefore cocaine=heart
Judging a player based on a team's achievements is idiotic
>>64430832
>The last goat midfield we had was in 2007, with Riquelme, Veron and pre-Barsa Mascherano
>got BTFO by a literally who Brazil side
Next you'll tell me Riquelme was "the last true joy" in the national team
>>64430832
Your midfield is better than your defence and goalkeeper
>>64431167
Our defense actually overperforms on the NT. It's not a problem at this point. The three main problems are:
-Meme managers unable to work around NT schedules and create a reliable system while taking into account the best performing players instead of just big names
-Forwards constantly choking
-We don't have a single world class midfielder, the closest to that is Banega and he might go back to being a nobody in a moment's notice considering his personality.
Post rare antonellas
>>64429402
>greatest Argentinian team of all time
>HIGUAIN
lmao
>>64430591
Mascherano is shit
>muh heart
still shit
What's actually >our greatest team of all time?
It's probably some hipster ancient side like '46 or '57 but of the ones there are videos about, it's probably just '86.
Other contenders might be '91, '94 and '06 (fuck u Chokerman)
>>64431167
Banega and Biglia aren't bad.
If brazil had 2 players like them we'd improve a lot. If Thiago Alcantara wasn't a hasty cunt we'd have a proper passing CM.
Former Corinthians player Jadson is the closest we have to Banega and he isn't as mobile, fairly old as well, but is pass specialist, one that Dunga overlooked. He transfered to China due to that.
>needing a team trophy to be the single best player of all time
>>64432144
2007
>Higuain
>>64429513
Robben or Neuer should have taken the Golden Ball that cup. Why Messi finished top of the heap is beyond me.
>>64430435
You're forgetting Busquets, who many pundits have said was probably the most important cog in the machine.
For shame.
>>64438604
Busquets a shit
>>64430305
>Oh! He said it!
>>64430305
more like they prefer the narco guy because he actually played amazingly for them. messi is just an amazing player that was born in argentina.
>>64430486
this tbqh. We never heard messi speaking his mind. He just seems rather fake.
And by the way I don't like Maradona as a human being.
Messi could never do it without Busquets
>>64429764
I'm under the suspicion that the Russian flag we all occasionally spot in football threads is actually the same person. I've been keeping an eye out for a while, and I've noticed Russian posts recently have all had quite fluent English. I haven't seen a single post (so far) with unnatural sounding or broken English.
The content of the posts has been quite similar as well - no discrepancies between threads. If I'm right, you are an Arsenal fan or at least participate in /arse/, you follow Zenit in Europe, you're really looking forward to WC2018 and think Messi is GOAT.
and Xavi
>>64439441
>>64439448
Biscuits and Xabi have the 2 greatest assist of all time, it's the reason they won the world cup and messi lost his
last time i checked teams won world cups, not players.
>>64429770
>ballons d'or
Literally the most meme award in the whole fucking world.
Messi is already the undisputed GOAT
Good luck Leo!
>>64439445
Yeah in the end this is a fishwifes patio and we all know each other, we have a resident pole, fin, norwegian, serbian, croatian, moroccan, peruvian etc, usually this flags write knowledgeable posts and it's pretty easy to know it's the same person.
On my time here i've also learned that there are americans that really know their shit when it comes to footy which for all the shit they get for their >flag is a nice surprise.
>>64438593
>Robben or Neuer
Because there was a gigantic shit storm in 2002 about a goalkeeper winning the Golden Ball even though him not even 'being a player'
>>64432121
el pipa is currently the best striker tbhhnst
>>64439954
This, old people just want to hold onto muh Maradona/Pele etc because it's who they grew up with
TFW: You hate Argentina and want Brazil to redeem themselves. But you also want Messi to win a World Cup.
>>64440778
/r/soccer: the post
>>64439445
H-how and why.
>>64429513
Screw that diving asshole. The only reason the Dutch got as far as they did in the last 2 world cups was due to him diving and getting penalties.
>>64440849
Build wall paco
>>64430497
i'm sure tinelli will change things
>>64440849
Chicano detected
>>64431302
>banega
>close to world class midfielder
rosarino comegatos
>>64433414
good times
>>64431302
how do you feel about Biglia Argentinabro? He shit all over the competition back here in Belgium but yeah, that's because it was the fucking Belgian League.
Haven't seen him play a lot at Lazio and honestly don't know how high he can be rated, if he can be rated
>>64444870
not him, but i don't like biglia, i think he is pretty shit in my honest opinion
>>64444915
fair enough, was kinda surprised he got into the NT so i thought maybe he was even better than i thought but i guess not
Build the midfield around pastore an you will fucking profit
And that doesnt mean just stick him in the middle. Give him and messi total freedom and teach the team to play with them two in mind
Reminder that Argentina won't win it.
>>64429402
Even 2006 WC Argentinian NT was way better
We've had a lot of GOAT teams in terms of names, but few have actually played well together
>>64439954
This
I saw maradonna regularly on tv, messi destroys him.
>>64432144
06 By FAR. We had Riquelme in his GOD status and a young Messi ready to tear it up, also Zanetti, Cuchu, Tevez, Sorin. That world cup shouldve been ours
>>64446030
Riquelme was never close to being world class.
>Zanetti
Below average.
>Cuchu
Literally who?
>Tevez
Decent but not world class. Never has been.
>Sorin
Literally who?
>That world cup should've been ours
You mean like the Falklands?
This is some Liverpool tier delusion right here.
>>64446030
lel on paper, on PAPER, our 2006 squad was the best.
>>64446030
>>64446306
06 England was comfortably better than 06 Brazil or 06 Argentina ON PAPER.
>G. Neville
>Terry
>Rio
>A. Cole
>Beckham
>Gerrard
>Lampard
>Scholes
>Carrick
>Owen
>peak Rooney
>>64446452
England stahp.
>>64446452
>scholes
>England
>06
>2006
>peak rooney
Did you even watch the tournament?
>>64446452
>Scholes
he retired from the NT after Euro 04. Did you even watch England in 2006?
>>64446510
>>64446515
I said ON PAPER you fucking retards.
If England had a semi-competent coach that played Scholes in his best position he wouldn't have retired.
>>64446531
Scholes wasn't on the figurative paper because he retired. I'm guessing you were born in 1998 or something and are back tracking.
>>64446567
Are you actually mentally impaired?
HE RETIRED BECAUSE OF THE MANAGEMENT.
ON PAPER, HE IS TECHNICALLY ENGLISH AND STILL ELIGIBLE. HE RETIRED FROM FOOTBALL IN 2013, 7 YEARS LATER.
Can't spell it out much clearer than that you utter weapon.
>>64446609
You're trying really hard, we're proud of you, but no. You said a retired player, accept your faggotry,
>>64446609
>being this mad after exposing yourself as underage
I'm glad I don't know that feel
>>64446627
Confirmed for stupid.
>>64446641
I'm only mad with how retarded some of you genuinely appear to be. It angers me that I share a board with such fucktards. The standard is usually a bit higher than this. Really frustrated t.b.h.
He's still the GOAT to me, even if he turns into Torres.
Bumperino
>>64446097
do you even futbol, mate?
>>64432144
2002
it depends on di maria's form
>>64429372
He already is the undisputed GOAT
>>64430449
shit
i mean, i was about to argue with you, but when i read about di maría i knew this was shit bait
>>64429402
>No Riquelme. Amerifat pls go
>>64429372
That daily reminder that if he would have chosen Spanish NT he would be the GOAT's GOAT by now.
>>64458918
Clearly not
>afuero
>higuashit
>di marria
>pastor€€€
>best arg team in history
>>64446306
>t. Albertinho Barbosao
>>64430432
What the fuck are you even saying? Unless he's both attacking and defending he literally can't win the cup by himself. God, you're a faggot
>>64439445
Someone post that pic of the autist who kept tabs on uhw or whatever the trip was
>>64440849
NO ERA PENAL
>>64446609
Keeping diggin boy
>>64429770
Only thats to HGH
