Glenn Hoddle, the former England and Tottenham boss, has warned Guardiola that the Premier League will prove to be a far tougher challenge.
'He will have everything to prove in this country because it is different here,' Hoddle said.
'If you go to Bournemouth - it is not like Barcelona going to Getafe or a team down the bottom where they are scared stiff of you.
'There are three teams in La Liga. The rest are technically good teams but they all play the same way. In this country you have to earn every single point you get.'
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literally who imparting lessons lol
hes right tho
It's basically what they say with every foreigner that moves to the league. Then they ignore the ones who adapt well, and point out the ones that fail as examples of why they're always right in saying it.
>>64414876
>engladumb who thinks eplel is harder than la liga because muh cold rainy day at stoke
Poop will have Shitteh playing tiki taka possession and boring the defenses with 1 or 2-0 wins against everyone
>>64414902
This so much
pfft.
Guardiola will cruise in the EPL.
The english always try to bully scare those who are capable of making them look bad, as >>64414902 said.
>>64414902
/thread
getafe v barcelona (results)
it's obvioulsy harder to win shit with teams that aren't Barca or Bayern
Hoddle is right, klopp came in expecting to cruise through because it's Liverpool la and has done utter shite
>>64414976
>klopp came in expecting to cruise through
When did he said something like this?
>>64414976
The only "people" who expected him to cruise were delusional Liverpool fans
>mfw people got mocked for saying the same thing to van laal
>>64414876
>Leicester City
He's 100% right.
Also I love how Poop is treat as some god despite under performing at Bayern (winning the league is the absolute bare minimum)
>>64414907
>Messi can do it at a cold rainy day at stoke
>>64414911
>>64414902
>>64414912
Yeah, because Van Gaal is doing so well with Man Utd, right?
>/sp/'s premier league hate boner
>>64414876
he's right, but only because the top teams in the epl are shit, not because the lower ones are good
Glenn Hoddle is a dumbass pundit that somehow everyone in the media pegs as an intellectual. He talks like teams that are "scared stiff of you" fall apart when you play them. Nothing could be further from the truth. These types of teams are the ones that park the bus and make it getting the result you want. Guardiola lost one league to Mourinho thanks to playing bus parkers and injuries (not having his most creative players available). The major difference between every league Guardiola experienced and the Premier League is that most teams in the EPL are better players playing in caveman-tier tactics.
>>64414976
You can't cruise with a shitty squad and no time to implement your ideas and game model. Expecting Klopp to deliver the goods day one is retarded.
>>64414976
Flopp almost got Dortmund relegated, he's a meme
No doubt there will be hordes of JFs making excuses for Pep when he draws his first game at home to Crystal Palace or something.
>>64415153
He finished on 7th.
>>64415168
7th in Bayernsliga is trash
>>64415166
Pardiola>Guardiola
>>64415166
No doubt there will be hordes of britcucks making excuses when he wins the league and makes the CL semi in his first season
>b-but he didn't win the treble. W-what a flop
>>64415188
>Poland
JUST
>>64415188
>CL semi
You mean that spot where Poop got exposed for two seasons in a row?
>inb4 you make excuses for how he got BTFO by Real Madrid and Barcelona
>>64415175
k
still not "almost relegated".
>>64415207
If he reaches a semifinal with a PL team he will do almost a miracle, if we look at the recent results.
>>64415166
>loses firsr game as Barcelona coach to Numancia
>proceeds to rape Europe
A draw at Palace wouldn't be so bad tbqh
>>64415210
they were relegation tier for half the season and had to make a big climb to finish 7th
Does anyone else feel he will stay at City longer than anywhere before (4+ years)? Txiki and Soriano prepared the turf for him, he will feel more comfortable than he was at Barcelona.
>>64414902
99% of the talking points on Talksport are based on this. They still credit Leicester's success to Nigel Pearson more than Ranieri.
Isn't some division 2 team in first place in EPL?
Isn't last year EPL champion near relegation?
Parity between scrubs tbqh
Hoddle confirmed for shitposting on /sp/. I've never seen anyone outside of /sp/ that wouldn't suck Pep's pipe just for fun.
Hoddle also said cripples and retards are being punished for sins in a previous life. He said this while he was England manager and promptly lost his job. AMM (Absolute mad man)
>>64414902
Thats fair enough but Teams like Leicester, Crystal Palace and Watford all play the kind of quick, direct counters which btfo teams playing possesion.
That said I can't imagine Pep would have much trouble in England.
>>64415153
>Flopp almost won Dortmund a CL, he's a meme
>>64415377
the most based man in football
>>64415305
I guess you've never been to Manchester. It's shite.
he is right though, the premiership is maybe the only competitive league left.
>>64415456
It's competitive only because Chelsea killed themselves, they should have dominated like they did last year.
>>64415105
van gaal is not pep guardiola
+
textbook behavior
>Then they ignore the ones who adapt well, and point out the ones that fail as examples of why they're always right in saying it.
Pellegrini himself did way better than Van Gaal.
>>64415234
they had a competition to prioritize, you dolt.
Watch him replicated Barcelona and fail miserably. At Bayern he was lucky cause those midgets already were going in the right direction. City starting eleven has 6 black players. You really think these negros will learn anything or even understand? It takes years to train chimpanzee to use screwdriver.
>>64414876
>'If you go to Bournemouth - it is not like Barcelona going to Getafe or a team down the bottom where they are scared stiff of you.
How many games he played in Getafe?
>>64415574
>implying he won't loan them to cotton fields the first minute he enters dressing room
He'll have more freedom than at Barcelona m8
>>64415377
>Hoddle also said cripples and retards are being punished for sins in a previous life. He said this while he was England manager and promptly lost his job
Top kek
>>64414876
>'If you go to Bournemouth - it is not like Barcelona going to Getafe or a team down the bottom where they are scared stiff of you.
Top kek ok
Why are Brits so fucking delusional?
>POOP Guardiola
He's right though.
The other European leagues except maybe Germany are utter shit underneath the first division, quickly trailing off into village teams and reserve sides.
The Championship is one of Europe's biggest leagues by all sorts of metrics, and even below that in League One there are clubs like Bradford City and Sheffield United getting ~20k in.
Going even further, there's teams like Stockport County in the sixth tier with crowds from 2-3k. At this point, most other countries leagues are literally pub teams, whilst ours still have small stadiums and are paid.
This is a local tier eleven's ground. Tier eleven. Admittedly they share it with a rugby team but it's ridiculous.
However well he does at City there will be an upset against a third tier side in the League Cup and /sp/ will erupt.
how the fuck am i supposed to rate a league that is being dominated by Shinji Ozazaki, a literal mong, and Robert Huth?
>>64415856
You're already watching a league dominated by Spicharito and Salomon Kalou so why not.
>>64415856
The only measure that counts of course; viewing figures.
>>64415877
Chicharito scored tons of goals in his first United season though. Stop pretending he was incapable of scoring in your league.
Kalou, yeah well i guess i have no excuse for that other than that Hertha are nowhere near the top, very much unlike Leicester
>>64414876
>literally who imparting lessons lol
He won a good number of trophies and never played for a huge team
Tottenham Hotspur
UEFA Cup winner: 1984
FA Cup winner: 1981, 1982
FA Charity Shield shared: 1981
FA Charity Shield runner-up 1982
AS Monaco
French Division 1 winner: 1987-88
French Cup winner: 1991
He is correct, La Liga is internally less competitive. We're halfway through the Spanish season and Rayo, the 12th placed team, already have -34 goal difference
>>64415856
Huth has won two premier leagues, already a proven winner
>>64415803
>Hurr durr we have a gazillion clubs therefore our smaller clubs are really strong while other leagues have 1-3 teams
Explain to me how English clubs get absolutely BTFO in the CL by every other top team and completely B T F O in the Europa League by shitty clubs from Portugal, Spain and every corner of Europe
>>64415906
He had 13 league goals in his first season. He has 20 in the bundes in half a season.
>>64415964
ABE conspiracy la.
i think this whole thread resumes to a single question.
will guardiola be able to make it in a cold rainy night in stoke?
>>64415965
>he has 20 in the bundes
No he doesnt
Why do Spanish posters come here to bitch about the premier league and English football exclusively?
>>64415964
Because English clubs can't get away with playing at 50% for an entire season and that effort takes its toll when big matches come around
>>64415964
But they aren't the shit clubs you simpleton. Shit clubs don't get the chance to play in Europe.
Avergage Championship teams like Wolves or Ipswich would be able to win the Serie B, Liga Adelante or 2. Bundesliga at a canter.
>>64416014
>teams that lose in Europe are the best because it means the league is competitve
My favourite meme. Polish league is the best then, it's so competitive and requires so much effort to win that no team was able to make it to the CL in 20 years
>>64415991
Basically this.
A brit who never saw any game that is not from any other league falling for that >rainy night meme. I'm sure he's a poster in spee.
Once he wins the league as easily as he did on Germany or Spain will the EPL meme end?
>>64416009
There are 3 Spanish posters (including OP) in this thread, and none but the OP even mentioned the Premier League.
Also that is the most delusional EPL thing I've heard all week.
>>64416027
lol
>implying they could do it in cold rainy night in sant'elia
>>64416042
I never said they were the best. I said the league is difficult and it makes it harder for English clubs to perform in Europe. You don't get weeks off in the PL.
A brief review of the performance of english teams in continental competitions this season:
Southampton loses agg 1-2 to FC Midtjylland
Tottenham ties 1-1 with Monaco, loses 1-2 against Anderlecht
Liverpool loses agg 1-1 (pens 4-5) to Besiktas, ties 1-1 with Sion at home, 1-1 with Bordeaux, 1-1 with Rubin Kazan at home with 1 extra man
ManUnited loses 1-2, ties 0-0 with PSV after buying their best player, loses 2-3 to Wolfsburg
ManCity loses 1-2, 0-1 to a depleted Juventus
Arsenal loses 1-2 to Dinamo Zagreb, loses 2-3 to Olympiacos, loses 1-5 to Bayern Munchen
Chelsea loses 1-2 to Porto, ties 0-0 with Dynamo Kiev
West Ham wins agg 1-1 (pens 5-3) against Birkirkara, a team from MALTA, loses agg 3-4 against FC Astra Giurgiu
>>64416107
Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea and City topped their groups. Arsenal finished runner up to Bayern.
Pretty good.
I dunno why people get all upset about it when it's only been four seasons since an EPL side was in the CL final.
Oh no English football is finished after a slight dip in form.
>>64416047
The Premier League is a meme league and as such it's the most entertaining.
The quality may improve in time, but the meme will never end.
When english talk about foreign football it usually ends badly.theie national team hasnt won anything in 59 years, imagine how they feel about their soulless franchise league now being third best in europe. It was their whole pride.
>>64416167
It can be tough to cope with, posts like this help though.
>glen hoddle
Discarded
He's right though.
You actually get a challenge in England. There are over a hundred different clubs that have won major trophies in England.
How many in Spain? Five?
>>64416193
>Preston North End won a few titles 120 years ago
>therefore EPL is tougher than La Liga in 2015
That's some far fetched mental gymnastics
>>64416042
loving every laugh poland, at least you tried
>>64415856
>dominated by Shinji Ozazaki
no
It's being dominated by a team, including three or four really good players and minor internationals. One of which is 'mong' Okazaki.
>>64416209
>wigan, portsmouth, Cardiff have all played in the fa cup final
off the top of my head mate.
And i'm two sheets to the wind
inb4 /sp/ gets a boner because he looks better in comparison to a manager trying his absolute hardest to fuck up yet another title race with by far and away the best squad in the PL
>>64416231
He means Vardy as the mong I think, has him confused with Kane probably.
>>64416239
I think Pellegrini is just going senile tbf, he's not trying to fuck it up.
>>64415951
That's because the top teams in Spain are better. If the English midtable scrubs had to face top quality players instead of the occasionally fit Aguero then they'd get raped too.
>>64416238
>Getafe, Osasuna, Zaragoza, Betis Sevilla all played in the CdR final (some of them multiple times)
So what?
>>64416027
>and i base this on absolutely nothing
>>64416267
>the compact disc reader final
who cares?
>>64416193
clubs that won the EPLel in the past 10 years: 3
clubs that won the EPLel in the past 20 years: 4
clubs that won La Liga in the past 10 years: 3
clubs that won La Liga in the past 20 years: 5
clubs that won the Serie A in the past 10 years: 3
clubs that won the Serie A in the past 20 years: 5
clubs that won the Bundasliga in the past 10 years: 4
clubs that won the Bundasliga in the past 20 years: 6
clubs that won the Brasileirão in the past 10 years: 5
clubs that won the Brasileirão in the past 20 years: 11
clubs that won the Ligue 1 in the past 10 years: 6
clubs that won the Ligue 1 in the past 20 years: 10
>>64416047
He won't though.
I saw Glenn Hoddle at Heathrow airport on sunday morning last week ::DDDDD
thank you for reading
>>64416047
No because winning it with City when every other team is absolute shit at the moment isn't impressive
>>64416300
did he try and convert you to a more integrated and spiritual way of life?
>>64416074
>based Italy
love you guys mate
Just don't stab me when i go back to Italy for another holiday
People overrate pep far too much
At Barca and Bayern he had world class players and the budget to buy whoever he wants. The premier league dont have that, which makes it more competitive even if it isn't as good. When Pep tries to teach his players to play 'his way' he will probably end up a poor version of Brendan Rodgers and run with his tail between his legs to PSG
Bayern were better before him, barca just won the treble so they aren't exactly missing him. Guessing he will retire before he is 50 like numerous other meme managers
Do people really think England is any more than a 3 team league? Fucking deluded retards
>>64415125
this, desu senpai
>>64414902
Love how all these butthurt, mainland Europeans hate England so much.
>>64416482
>When Pep tries to teach his players to play 'his way' he will probably end up a poor version of Brendan Rodgers
>a poor version of Brendan Rodgers
>a poor version of Brendan Rodgers
> of Brendan Rodgers
>mfw this entire post
hes right desu senpai
>>64416482
>At Barca and Bayern he had world class players and the budget to buy whoever he wants.
>The premier league dont have that
It's the fucking shitty. Do you think hes going to coach Fulham? They spent 60 on Sterling and 50 on Mangala. Shit players but don't say he won't have unlimited budget.
>>64416482
>At Barca and Bayern he had world class players and the budget to buy whoever he wants.
Did he have that at Barcelona B as well? Because he coached there too and secured 1st place promotion in his first season with a bunch of 17 year old kids
>>64416482
>that flag
>this post
>>64416545
Difference is City have a mostly shite squad with only a few world class players.
Could they have a proper overhaul with FFP? (Is that even a thing still?)
>>64416555
>le polish poster who always mentions Barcelona B as though it's relevant
Has there ever been a good English manager?
>>64416555
A bunch of 17 year olds that happened to be worth more than that entire division combined
>>64416555
oh wow he won the 4th tier of spanish football with a team that got relegated the previous season
such a fucking genius
>>64416593
>his titles with Barcelona and Bayern are irrelevant because they are top teams
>his success with Barcelona B is irrelevant because it's Spanish 4th division
can't win with you people
>>64416598
And how many of them were considered world class talents before Guardiola came there? No one has ever heard about Sergio Busquets, the 16 year old wonder kid
>>64414876
>implying British managers outside of Fergie have done anything relevant in the premier league
Hoodle is an archaic retarded cunt
>>64416598
Why were they relegated then to 3rd division before he took them then?
>>64416596
The same amount of English managers have won the CL/European cup as German managers.
>>64416620
Playing a 16 year old in an U17 teams in the 4th Division isn't considered unearthing a gem. It's called doing the extremely fucking obvious.
The whole "Premier league is special, every point is hard" argument is repeated over and over, so while there might be something to it, most people are tired of hearing it. Maybe Spaniard and Italian pundits say the same about their leagues as well but such statements are less frequently translated into English.
>>64416639
He's a bit of a nut but a decent manager imo. I'd take him back over Woy anyday.
>>64416700
And winning the league with those 16 year olds is called doing a good fucking job
>>64416335
Italy a shit fãm. Come to Sardinia pls
>>64416729
That depends on the quality of the league. And I imagine the 4th division of Spanish football to be terrible given the lower end of the first division is shit in itself
>>64414957
Basically this, barca would rape the lelpl so hard there would be hotline started
>>64416729
the Spanish 4th division is a pub league anyone who invests as much money in their youth academy as Barca would absolutely walk it
city may have all the money in the world but they arn't a big club in the uk
>>64416831
All the "big" clubs suck so why would you want to be at one?
