OAK : S Charles Woodson will retire after 2015, 18 illustrious years in the NFL
SD:Stevie Johnson (groin) resumes practicing
FA:49ers waive reserve runner Travaris Cadet
SF:Report: Draughn's knee injury isn't serious
NYG:Mort: Beckham's appeal set for Wednesday
CIN:Tyler Eifert remains in concussion protocol
CAR:Jonathan Stewart not at practice Tuesday
MIN:Vikings will continue to be run-first offense
BAL:Ravens want to get Mallett starts this season
JAC:Bradley hints Robinson's injury not serious
NO:Drew Brees in a walking boot, headed for MRI
DAL:Cowboys finally place Tony Romo on IR
DET:Golden Tate feasts with two more touchdowns
Press F to pay respects
1st for pats repeat
>>64403945
>6 posts early
My wife's son told me Maziel and Keenum were Kliff babbys and sent me this?
Is it true?
>>64403945
>Packers Woodson is middle and top
>raiders woodson off in the bottom corner
>>64403945
Ed Reed > Charles Woodson > Brian Dawkins >>>>> Troy Polamalu
How many years until he's the GOAT?
>>64404034
Woodson is better than all those guys
>>64404034
>Ed Reed > Charles Woodson
jimmies thoroughly rustled
>>64404048
1/0
first for fresh autistic eli oc
Golden age of the Panther Dynasty happening Anons....
>>64404048
Is that kirk cousins or the other white qb the redskins are starting/didnt trade three picks for
>>64404020
Probably because the picture was made when he was in Green Bay. Charles is definitely a Raider first and his return to Oakland to help rebuild the team is proof of that.
Why will the Seaharpies choke first in the playoffs
nth for OBJ a bitch
Eagles 2017 hc John Harbaugh
Eagles 2017 oc Jim Harbaugh
Eagles 2017 dc Bud Foster
woodson coulda been the GOAT if he took his early years in oakland seriously
Just wait until Benjamin is back next year, panthers will have the #1 offense with him and Ted "ive learned how to catch this year" Ginn
Point-Counterpoint
If Kelvin Benjamin had not gotten injured, the Panthers would not have gone undefeated. Cam would've tried to feed him the ball too much, Kelvin Benjamin would have dropped a good number of them, killing otherwise successful offensive drives. Because he was hurt, Cam has been able.to spread the ball around more. If Kelvin Benjamin was important to the Panther offense, then the similarly framed Devil Funchess would have been been utilized much earlier in the season, developmental period aside.
>>64404111
bruh how many trips of truth does this nigga get
thats gotta be like three in four threads in a row
SJW's BFTO
OBlango BTFO
Long live the dark reds skins
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1. Panthers
2. Cardinals
3. Patriots
4. Seahawks (+1)
5. Chiefs (+1)
6. Steelers (+1)
7. Broncos (-3)
8. Bengals
9. Packers (+1)
10. Jets (-1)
11. Vikings
12. Redskins (+1)
13. Texans (+4)
14. Giants (-2)
15. Bills (-1)
16. Raiders (-1)
17. Rams (+3)
18. Colts (-2)
19. Falcons (+3)
20. Bucs (-2)
21. Eagles (-2)
22. Lions (+4)
23. Saints (-2)
24. Jaguars (-1)
25. Chargers (+6)
26. Dolphins (-2)
27. Bears (-1)
28. Browns (-1)
29. 49ers (-1)
30. Ravens (-1)
31. Cowboys (-1)
32. Titans
>>64404103
>Charles is definitely a Raider first and his return to Oakland to help rebuild the team is proof of that
>not because oakland was willing to pay him substantially more than other places
>>64404111
MAKE IT HAPPEN
>>64404170
Packers arent low enough
>>64404139
Counterpoint-Counterpoint
But now that Cam has had a very successful season without Kenji, who is to say that he won't be able to be able to run an even better offense with Kenji.
>>64404178
Charles Woodson signed a 1 year, $3,200,000 contract with the Oakland Raiders, including a $1,400,000 signing bonus, $1,400,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $3,200,000. In 2015, Woodson will earn a base salary of $1,800,000, a signing bonus of $1,400,000 and a incentive bonus of $1,000,000. Woodson has a cap hit of $4,200,000 while his dead money value is $1,400,000.
Contract:1 yr(s) / $3,200,000Signing Bonus$1,400,000Average Salary$3,200,000Guaranteed$1,400,000Free Agent:2016 / UFA
>>64404135
>Cam Newton made Ted Ginn Jr. into a NFL WR
I know that Woodson owes NOTHING to the Raiders and he has been excellent, BUT THEY STILL NEED HIM, he should go away once they reach playoffs (one more season is needed with him imo).
>>64404170
How'd you land that sponsorship deal?
>>64404170
This is literally ESPN tier
>>64404246
I will believe the Panthers eliteness if Kelvin comes back next season with better hands. If hes still droppy then the Panthers will regress
2014-2014
Contract:1 yr(s) / $2,500,000
Signing Bonus $1,150,000
Average Salary $2,500,000 Guaranteed
$1,150,000
Free Agent:2015 / UFA
>>64404010
Is it a a problem?
I miss Dion Lewis
>>64404226
Not really.
>>64404284
It's a secret.
>>64404285
I'll take that as a compliment. :^)
>>64404295
JAN 26 2015 Signed a 1 year $3.2 million extension with Oakland (OAK)
MAR 20 2014 Signed a 1 year $2.5 million contract with Oakland (OAK)
MAY 21 2013 Signed a 1 year $1.8 million contract with Oakland (OAK)
FEB 15 2013 Released by Green Bay (GB)
SEP 9 2010 Signed a 5 year $55 million extension with Green Bay (GB)
APR 26 2006 Signed a 7 year $52 million contract with Green Bay (GB)
APR 18 1998Drafted by Oakland (OAK): Round 1 (#4 overall)
Russell Wilson IS elite.
>>64404034
Why so much hate for Polamalu? He wasn't a traditional safety but he made some of the most exciting plays in recent memory. Definitely a huge impact player during his prime. Shame he flamed out quickly.
>yfw it's the gift box captcha
>>64404347
2014 incentives
70% Snaps: $1 million
4 INT: $200,000
8 INT: $650,000
Pro Bowl: $175,000
Defensive Player of the Year: $175,000
2015 incentives
Pro Bowl: $250,000
75% snaps: $250,000
>>64404328
james white niggy
>>64404347
why the hell did you list things in a descending annual manner? i'm drunk as fuck i was lost for a solid 15 seconds. why wouldn't you start with the earliest years first?
>>64404328
>dat run
That's some Barry Sanders tier shit right there
>>64404393
I know but they could have had both
>>64404419
That's the way the site listed it
>>64404436
he breaks hearts and ankles
>>64404347
At that point he's got his money and is playing because he loves the game and wants to make Oakland better.
Part of why he's so classy and not a nigger thug like 90% of black "people" in the league
>>64404451
>tom FUCKING brady just threw me the ball
>have to swag out for the squad
F.A.M.
>tfw kelce
>tfw maclin
>tfw west
>tfw ware
>tfw peters
>tfw berry
>tfw hali
>tfw johnson
>tfw houston
>tfw poe
>tfw sherman
>tfw sean smith
>tfw alex smith
>tfw all of these players are top 5 at their position
>>64403945
I beg to differ, J-Stew was at panthers practice today I view his stories on snapchat
>>64404451
> Lewis is our RB!
> Blount is our RB!
> Grey is our RB!
> Ridley is our RB!
Vareen, Green-Ellis, etc etc. It never seems to last very long.
>>64404376
played so shitty against green bay that he lost them the superbowl desu
>>64404534
>Lacy is our RB!
>Starks is our RB!
>Lacy is our RB!
>Starks is our RB!
>Lacy is o-Starks is our RB!
>>64404376
It's not hate only the truth, those guys are better than him.
God I'm so sorry but I must keep posting this because if I dont something Antonio Brown's Perfect Smile worked hard on will die
Threadly Reminder
The official franchise ranking:
Super Bowl Championship (1966-Present): 20 Points
World Championship (1920-1965): 12 Points
Conference Championship (1960-Present): 10 Points
Division Championship: 6 Points
Playoff Appearance: 4 Points
Pro Football Hall of Fame Inductee (Main Contribution): 8 Points
AP MVP* (1957-Present): 6 Points
AP Offensive POY (1972-Present): 4 Points
AP Defensive POY (1971-Present): 4 Points
1. Packers (738 points)
2. Giants (646 points)
3. Steelers (640 points)
4. Bears (602 points)
5. Cowboys (590 points)
6. 49ers (548 points)
7. Colts (502 points)
8. Redskins (482 points)
9. Rams (450 points)
10. Browns (430 points)
11a. Raiders (404 points)
11b. Vikings (404 points)
13. Patriots (386 points)
14. Dolphins (350 points)
15. Broncos (344 points)
16. Eagles (330 points)
17. Lions (304 points
18. Bills (246 points)
19. Chiefs (220 points)
20a. Seahawks (202 points)
20b. Cardinals (202 points)
22a. Chargers (200 points)
22b. Titans (200 points)
24. Ravens (152 points)
25. Bengals (144 points)
26. Buccaneers (142 points)
27. Saints (136 points)
28. Jets (130 points)
29. Falcons (104 points)
30. Panthers (68 points)
31. Jaguars (36 points)
32. Texans (28 points)
>>64404281
No, he said he would play until his body wouldn't let him anymore.
He's been in a lot of pain this season playing through that shoulder injury. I was at the Packers game and I would watch him come out of the game just clutching his shoulder every time. It's time to let him go, he's done wonders already with his leadership, but >we'll be ok without him. I would hate for him to play one more season and then have a Manning sized meltdown
>>64404518
>Kelce
Slow as shit, drops occasionally
>Maclin
Speed babby, won't do anything unless you chuck it deep or throw a screen
>west
Literally who
>ware
Literally Who
>Peters
Only good rookie DB 2bh
>berry
Wasn't he replaced by Branch?
>Hali
Won't do shit when he's double teamed
>Johnson
Who?
>Houston
Only good LB
>Poe
Muh fat DEs are elite
>Sherman
>FB
>Sean Smith
He's not Sean Taylor
>Alex Smith
Topkek
>all top 5 players
Topkek, again
>>64404170
isn't it illegal to shill shit like this on /sp/?
>Only two more weeks of allowing this shit team to waste my Sundays
ONLY 5 MORE WEEKS OF FOLLOWING THIS SHIT TEAM.
>>64404650
>Peters
>Only good rookie DB 2bh
stop this meme. Darby > Peters, unless all you do to compare DBs is look at their INT number
Could an NFL team with a losing record beat the past national championship winning college team?
>>64404762
duh
>>64404762
of course, even the worst nfl team, could beat the best college team any day of the week
>>64404735
And then 8 months of waiting for them to return only to let you down.
>>64404762
>this fucking shit again
>>64404742
>>64403749
Any help appreciated.
>>64404813
>5minutesinpaint.png
>Ron Rivera said what the Panthers were doing with the bat is no different than Reggie Bush did in terms of a symbol of "keep bringing the wood." He reiterated again that this is all "soap opera" material.
>Panthers coach Ron Rivera added the bat no longer will be used as motivation. Wants to avoid more talk about it. "it's the No Fun League for a reason," he said.
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
>>64403945
Finally a proper edition, thank you OP
>>64404784
Things might be different next year with Philbin being gone.
>>64404843
Panthers confirmed for going to get refballed
>>64403945
Who's next in line after J-stew? Artis-Payne?
>>64404843
Is anyone going to go see Concussion? Tell da truth. Tell da truth!
>>64404825
seth rogan
>>64404843
N O
F U N
L E A G U E
B T F O
T
F
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>>64404902
>Will smith's African accent
>>64404892
CAP had a decent game againts the gays Sunday.
>>64404135
Panthers already have the #1 offense without Benjamin, next year they will shatter whatever the NFL scoring record is by a large margin.
>>64404955
shulas gone tho
>>64404969
How is getting a HC gig when the Panthers are winning the owl. All the jobs will be filled before he is available.
>>64404969
>shulas gone tho
good
no panthers fan will miss a 3rd and 18 run up the middle
>>64404908
Obviously not, but I feel like the guy I'm thinking of had a minor role in some Judd Apatow flick or similar recent buddy/bro comedy.
>>64404955
>scoring 32.1 ppg this year
>record is 37.8 ppg
>one player will increase the potency of the offense that much
yeah probably not, but it's a nice thought
>>64404902
No, it looks kind of boring and every cent it makes at the box office will be put to work bullying the league into further pussification. I am somewhat interested in Omalu's account of events of though, so I may pirate it.
>>64405010
hes been better this year
hes adapted to cam
this is the first competant oline that can runblock that hes ever had
>>64403945
>Michigan
>Green Bay
>Oakland
Three of the best uniforms out there t.b.h.
>>64405068
This.
It's easy to forgive and forget with how this season has turned out, but he's lost more than a few Panthers games over the years with his questionable calls. Let another team deal with his baggage
Are concussions really that big a deal?
>>64404955
Fucking lmao
>>64405141
It's literally brain damage
>>64405068
>hes adapted to cam
it shouldn't have taken 3 years to figure this out though.
and cam calls more plays now than mike "up the gut" shula does.
>>64404843
I love being a Panther Fan
>>64405141
Yes and no tbqh. They make millions of dollars for the price of a couple of decades off of their lifespans
>>64405159
What do we do to lessen them?
>>64405141
When you actually consider the after-effects, ya.
But the NFL is treating the style of play badly instead of just bettering the equipment because the NFL is the biggest Jew in the world.
>>64405141
yes, but not as bad as its made out to be. the real threat is constant microconcussions
>>64405141
Only if you play football at a high level (upper division NCAA or professional) for a long time, or you do so while receiving poor medical care and performing poor self-care.
>>64405209
They literally have been bettering the equipment substantially over the last 10-15 years, but you can't magically dissipate all of the force of a hard hit to the head, especially when the guys doing the hitting are literally delivering more force than a fucking SWAT battering ram.
>>64405201
There is really nothing you can do, it's just the nature of the game. Some people claim better helmets will work, and it might but any kind of violent movement of the head/neck can cause a concussion and there is nothing that a more advanced helmet can do to stop that.
reminder that Lacy will play at a high level in the post season and that Richard Rodgers, Jeff Janis. Jared Abbredaris and Davante Adams will all break out as quality starters
cap this post for future reference
>>64405310
stop
>>64405385
never
ever
v
every day until you like it
r
>>64405310
Eddie Lacy is fat
>>64405463
And water is wet
Think Woodson will get in the Hall?
>>64405559
He'll be 1st ballot
>>64405570
Remind me when the last Dolphins playoff win was?
>>64405559
Should Ed Reed?
Is Joey Bosa worth the #1 overall pick?
>>64405664
yes
>>64405650
2000
>dolphins literally winless in the playoffs since tom brady came into the NFL
>>64405664
depends on what your team needs
>>64405710
>dolphins literally winless in the playoffs since tom brady came into the NFL
They're going to stay winless until he retires too, lel
>>64405664
Sure, if picking meme D linemen is your kind of thing.
>>64405710
>>64405650
>>64405570
Daily reminder that Julian Edelman has more postseason TD passes than any QB in the AFC East. (Besides Brady)
>>64405722
holy shit that is a full kcucing if i've ever seen one
>>64405722
Playoff wins by AFCE teams since Tom Brady's NFL debut:
>Patriots: 21
>Jets: 6
>Bills: 0
>Dolphins: 0
>Tom Brady has more playoff losses since he began his career than the rest of his division has wins
>>64405766
>elite
>>64405750
confirmed for armpit-shaving faggot
>>64405664
No and im a big fan of his
>>64405766
>>64405759
>>64405750
>>64405722
>>64405650
We don't appreciate him enough
We have literally been watching THE GOAT for the past decade
Along with the GOAT coach
>>64405915
>Has to cheat to win
>The GOAT
Choose one and only one.
Another thing. I'm getting tired of this same song and dance, Patsfags know exactly where I stand on all this bullshit and you damn well know I will remind you your franchise has done nothing but cheat everyone else out of winning since Tom 'Noodle Arm' Brady walked into this shit league. The rings on his fingers are all lies, even his wedding ring (you know exactly what I mean by that).
This post needs 10 replies or more or else the patriots win this super bowl and effectively shows the world their dynasty has no end.
>>64405966
sorry, this thread is actually only for use by fans of teams who have won a playoff game since 9/11 happened :)
i'm sure there's a more suitable place for you though; maybe try /r/nfl or the ESPN forums?
>>64405966
>Cryami
>>64405025
Math isn't my strong suit but that is roughly a 16% increase in scoring production, I would easily say Benjamin is more than 75% better than every current Panthers receiver so that sort of jump isn't unreasonable if he is healthy next year.
Who can stop the Panthers? The Hawks? The Cards?
They keep finding ways.
>>64405986
>dynasty
Of what? The Chinese divide their Empire into dynasties because the history is so long and illustrious. What do the New England Patriots have to claim a dynasty to? The fact that you can't even discuss their "winning" of their Super Bowls without bringing up cheating should speak enough for itself.
>"But everyone cheats!"
And that makes it ok? There is a loser mentality to the NFL. No one is allowed to talk shit, exchange banter, put down huge hits, and everything an athlete does in their private life is for some reason the public's business. But cheating? Well shit, that is just fine so long as you win it all.
How does Phillip Rivers get so many passing yards but his team never seems to score very much? You'd think they'd be at least getting more field goals. Like in the game vs the Chiefs he put up almost 300 yards but his team only got 3 points.
>>64403945
Pats confirmed for repeat.
>>64406041
Who is this body hottie?
>>64406041
Cards defense just took a huge hit and Seattle on the road isn't as good as Seattle at home so I think they will have a hard time beating Carolina. It isn't impossible for either team but I think Panthers win the NFC this year. In the Superbowl the Steelers and Patriots would both be tough matchups. I think they beat the Pats in a close game but probably lose to the Steelers in an epic shootout.
>>64405766
How cucked can one division get?
>>64406042
you're the only one consistenly bringing up the patriots' cheating allegations
anyone who's not as mad as you acknowledges that the patriots were the last NFL dynasty
>>64406047
no running game and ded WRs makes for a pretty shit red zone offense
if gates was still elite they'd score more
>>64404955
>mfw back2back 19-0
>>64406106
>allegations
You must be joking
i need beckham to win his appeal goddamnit. im in the championship round and my opponent has julio jones and deandre hopkins
>>64404843
>As for his players being accused of directing homophobic slurs at Beckham, Rivera said: "We don’t tolerate that here, we don’t. Marcus has given me no reason not to believe what he told me. He said he said nothing. I heard nothing. Several people around him heard nothing to be construed as something homophobic. I’ve seen some of the clips, but in all honesty, those clips are benign.
>"Give me some concrete evidence so I can sit down and get this taken care of. If not, let’s move on."
Coach of the Year
WHOA
>>64406167
>he'll probably win coach of the year when he has literally done NOTHING as a coach
Honestly, Cam deserves coach of the year over him.
>>64406157
That's what you get for memeing.
>>64404595
do you count only wild card as playoff appearance? or does a team get 10 for winning their division because division championship+playoff appearance?
>>64406278
>done nothing
>build one of the best defenses in the league with castoffs and misfits
>nothing
>>64406364
>implying he did literally any of that
Rivera has always been a terrible coach outside of this year. He does not get the BotD
SAY MY NAME
>Drew Brees is dealing with a torn plantar fascia in his right foot.
Matt Flynn about to get his first win as a starter since 2011
>>64406407
James Robert Cooter
>>64406156
reply
>>64406200
remember when joe montana said the 49ers should hold on to gabbert? kek
>>64406407
JIM
I miss Old Man Woodson.
>>64406413
Thats Jim Bob to you mother fucker
>>64406407
I hope he has a son with the same name who ends up becoming a QB coach
Jim Bob Cooter Jr: The QB Tooter.
>>64406403
>implying he did literally any of that
Yes, you dense fuck, he literally did. He is a defensive coach. He helped coach a cast of nobodies into a top tier defense.
>Rivera has always been a terrible coach outside of this year.
TWO fucking years ago he had a 12-4 team with a similarly lacking OL and defense. What are you fucking smoking?
4 rounds edition
>>64405559
he's a legitimate contender for best defensive player ever. maybe even best player ever, so yeah.
>>64406407
Reminder that he is only 31, pretty based to be a team oc at that age
>>64406567
>De'Runnya
Now THAT is a nig name.
Why did so many qbs die this year?
>>64406505
>this fucking retard panthers faggot saying Rivera is a good coach
lmao
>>64405559
If he's not a first ballot guy than no one is.
>>64406595
they need an updated list now that almost all of those guys have left
>>64406595
There's a defensive linesman in college named dee liner I think kek
>>64406567
>the only offensive lineman the Lions get is a center
Lol no. They need a tackle like there is no tomorrow. They already have Swanson and Ramirez at center so it aint happening. Also they dont really need an OLB either. Inside makes sense but they need DT really bad and CB over OLB. Already got Levy, Whitehead and Van Noy plus some decent depth in Josh Bynes.
>>64406567
>Saints
>draft a junkie DL in the first round
>dont draft a DB until a 3rd round project
pls no
>>64406588
>what casuals and mestizos actually believe
Reminder that Allen Robinson is fairly fucking almost elite
>>64406665
Care to explain why he isn't?
>>64406623
>this guy who assumes I'm a Panthers fan
>this guy who says Rivera is a bad coach despite all available evidence suggesting the contrary
lmao
>>64406675
Because you can't be the defensive GOAT when there at least 3-4 recent players who are better, at the same position as you, let alone LB and DL.
>>64406651
>>64406652
I wasn't comfortable having Treadwell, Jack, and Jaylon go any lower than they already are
here's another option if you want
Saints- Treadwell
Loins- Nkemdiche
Dolphins- Jaylon Smith
Jints- Myles Jack
>>64406672
Post >yfw everyone skipped Hurns and Robinson
>>64406717
And those players are?
>>64406731
>Loins drafting a dumbass that can't stop being a dumbass and falling out of windows
Makes sense since it's the Lions
>>64406736
Ed Reed, Brian Dawkins, Ronnie Lott, and Troy Polamalu.
>>64406567
>Connor Cook on the Browns
Do they have any vertical threat receivers? Only way I can see Cook being successful.
>>64406754
Only palomalu and reed come close to Woodson
>"You could make the argument that outside of Cam Newton and Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins is the hottest QB in the NFL..."
NFL Network, pls.
>>64406761
It's the Browns, they draft a QB and ruin them like every year.
Was : Kirk Cousins files trademark for catchphrase "YOU LIKE THAT?!"
>>64406567
>Shilique Calhoun lasting till the 2nd
well early second isn't too far-fetched
>>64406783
>we live in a timeline where Kirk Cousins is an actual starter
>>64406779
Lott and Dawkins were objectively better than Polamalu, so if you agree that Polamalu is better then you agree that all 4 or better.
>Somebody will draft Shawn Oakmeme future bust in the first round
>>64406595
I went to high school with Star Lotulelei, that's a big dude
>>64406809
For you
>>64406809
For whom?
so as a hawk fag I want to ask you faggots this:
will marshawn lynch coming back fuck with the current seahawks offense?
>>64406567
Will Dak Prescott even be available in the 4th round?A desperate team might draft him early.
>>64406823
Yes, boost to running game
>>64406761
Travis Benjamin if they resign him
>>64406783
He is pretty cute. I have a mancrush on him
>>64406823
If they try to force him the ball than maybe. All I want from you guys is to eliminate the Packers. You can fuck off as far as a super bowl is concerned.
>>64406823
I really don't think so.
Now if Lockett or Baldwin got injured (pls no), I think that would be the ol' dick in the ass, as they say.
>>64406825
I think he'll go higher but this is based on what I would do based on what I know about each team
>>64406826
will that be at detriment to the passing game? In terms of its success? Or will the better run game help the current pass game?
can AP/AD be considered the RB version of randy moss? will he and should he ever leave minnesota to join the patriots? will he be ringless as well?
>>64406823
if they go on full on retard about it and try to make him the focal point every drive, yes
if he's treated as a regular rb like jackson/rawls used to be, I think hawks will be able to continue score more than 24 pts
>>64406807
Anyone that unironically wears that facemask will be be a surefire bust
>>64406837
I have a mancrush on Brandon Flowers.
>>64406851
Run to set up the pass
Whats the difference between a west coast and spread offense? Both seem to be similar focusing on the passing game and spreading out the defense
>>64406908
One is a style of play in football and the other is what I did to your mom last night
>>64406924
>>64406717
>only defensive player ever to win a Hiesman
>one of 2 players EVER to win Hiesman, college championship, rookie of the year, player of the year, and an owl
>8x pro bowl
>4x first team all pro
>2x NFL leader in INTs
>2000s NFL all decade team member
>>64406924
Oh alright, thanks for clearing that up bro
>>64406754
woodson was better as a CB than a safety, and was a CB in his most elite years
why are there retards here comparing him to ed reed and ronnie lott? just started watching football?
he's still not the best corner of all time, but he's up there
how much longer until they're good. this was supposed to the year.
>>64406990
Next year, when they're in LA.
How long do you think till NO will be good?
>>64406990
See if Keenum can develop.
GET RID OF JEFF FISHER FOR FUCKS SAKE
and you've got a legit 9-7 or 11-5 team
I want to poop on a grilled cheese sandwich and force feed it to Roger Goodell.
>>64406908
West Coast
>mostly under center
>fairly even run mix of run/pass
>use short, quick throws to supplement run
>use run to set up play action/rollouts
>use true FBs and TEs
Spread (here I mean NFL spread; there are several variations at the lower levels)
>shotgun heavy
>consistently pass more than run
>use short, quick throws, especially screens, in place of the run
>pass used to open up run by forcing defenders out of the box
>little need for true FBs, and TEs often basketball-style players who are called on less as blockers
>>64406753
dude just loves smoking that roid.
>>64407053
I learned today
Ok, we all know and hate the prevent defense
But what is the prevent offense?
>>64407153
>But what is the prevent offense?
What the Browns use.
Every time I watch a Steelers game the commentators mention that it's difficult to kick at Heinz Field. What's so special about that stadium? Or is it just some meme?
>>64406157
Julio will get shut out by Norman for the 4th time in the last two years, so him a Beckham will be a wash. Not sure about combating Hopkins though.
>>64407153
>3rd and 18
>Run it up the gut
>>64407174
For some unexplained reason Heinz field has the shittiest grass on earth. And even when they replace the turf it's still shit.
It's some strange voodoo magic shit that you can't explain
Did the Steelers lose when they wore their bumble bee alternates this year? Dont they always win because it confuses the defenses?
>>64406941
>>only defensive player ever to win a Hiesman
>>one of 2 players EVER to win Hiesman, college championship, rookie of the year, player of the year, and an owl
Yeah, no one here gives a fuck about school sports, frat boy.
>>8x pro bowl
Mostly meaningless, but since you're interested Polamalu had 8, Reed and Dawkins had 9, and Lott had 10, and I believe all of them had shorter careers.
>>4x first team all pro
Again, Dawkins and Polamalu had 4, Reed had 5, and Lott had 6, and all had shorter careers.
>>2x NFL leader in INTs
Another mostly meaningless stat, but since you brought it up, Lott also led the league twice, and Reed did it 3 times while overlapping with Polamalu and Dawkins, whose run support duties didn't grant them as many opportunities for picks. And I thought Woodson only led the league once, but I could be mistaken. Reed and Lott also have a greater ratio of INTs/game fwiw.
>>2000s NFL all decade team member
Everyone I named was all-decade, all were first-team except for Polamalu, who was second.
And I was remiss to leave Rod Woodson off that list.
>>64406567
oh yay two shitty injury prone defensive linemen in the first three rounds yipee
>you're team
>have you given up on the playoffs dream yet?
>who do you plan on bandwagoning throughout the playoffs?
Falcons
Yes
Cards
>>64406982
>woodson was better as a CB than a safety, and was a CB in his most elite years
When did I say otherwise?
>why are there retards here comparing him to ed reed and ronnie lott?
Because that chucklefuck said he was in the conversation for greatest defensive PLAYER. Not greatest corner or greatest DB. Greatest defensive player. Which can't really be the case when there are a handful of DBs who are clearly better before you even start talking about LBs or DL. You stupid fuck.
>>64407299
Patriots
:^)
Patriots
>>64407153
>>64405463
a fat man that runs a 4.44 40 yard dash. stay mad faggot
>>64407307
so there are no corners better than him so you jumped to safety? neat
it's retarded to compare him to other safeties because he just wasn't as good as a safety
you could make the argument that woodson was not as good of a cornerback as polamalu/reed/dawkins was a safety, but if the point you're making is that he's not the greatest defensive player of all time because he's not even the best at his position, why not compare other people at his ACTUAL position?
you know, the one he was an all-decade first team selection at?
it's ok to admit that you're wrong sometimes you know
>>64407153
>have lead
>2nd half
>run up the middle for 2 yards
>run up the middle for no gain
>draw play for 1 yard
>punt
rinse and repeat until you inevitably lose the lead
>>64407347
this
>>64407299
I am Packers
:D
Packers (although I think the NFCCG is gonna be Cards-Panthers, and that'll essentially be the owl, with the Cardinals winning(assuming Palmer's knees don't explode))
>>64407299
Chargers
NOTHING'S IMPOSSIBLE
Jaguars
>>64407366
>so there are no corners better than him so you jumped to safety? neat
I said UNQUESTIONABLY better, and I forgot to mention Rod Woodson at first who, like Charles Woodson, played both corner and safety. Others would be debatable.
>it's retarded to compare him to other safeties because he just wasn't as good as a safety
Well how the fuck can he be considered to be in the GOAT defensive player discussion if it's not fair to compare him to other defensive players? Jesus fuck-me Christ.
>you could make the argument that woodson was not as good of a cornerback as polamalu/reed/dawkins was a safety, but if the point you're making is that he's not the greatest defensive player of all time because he's not even the best at his position, why not compare other people at his ACTUAL position?
Because you can't be in the discussion for best defensive player of all time when you're already 6th on the list of DBs, before you even add in LBs and DL.
>you know, the one he was an all-decade first team selection at?
4 of the 5 players I mentioned were first team all-decade, too. Lott was on TWO all-decade teams (second team in the 90s).
>it's ok to admit that you're wrong sometimes you know
Then what are you waiting for?
>>64407468
add.
>Because you can't be in the discussion for best defensive player of all time when you're already 6th on the list of DBs, before you even add in LBs and DL.
ergo, there is no need to waste time debating where he ranks as a corner, when he is still going to be the 6th DB and probably not in the top 15-20 once you factor in LBs and DLs.
I hope Woodson gets DPOTY.
>>64407541
>le lifetime achievement award man
I hope it goes to the best defensive player in the League this year, Aaron Donald of the St. Louis Rams.
>>64407553
>Best defensive player
>not Khalil Mack
>>64407569
Mack has been the highest graded player at his position twice this season, and the 2nd highest graded player twice.
Donald has been first 6 times, and second 3 times. And that is with him being graded against J.J. Watt and Ndamukong Suh.
>be optimistic
>lol you're delusional
>be pessimistic
>lol you're not a real fan
There is no pleasing you faggots huh?
>>64407610
>J.J. Watt and Ndamukong Suh
both have been colossal disappointments lately, and Suh has been all year
>>64407616
Fuck off, sneak.
>>be pessimistic
>>lol you're not a real fan
This only happens because you make such a meme out of being a pessimist. You're the neurotic Jew of /nfl/. You're the fucking Jeff Goldblum of /nfl/.
>>64407640
Suh has been great all year.
>>64407640
>both have been colossal disappointments lately, and Suh has been all year
By what fucking metric?
Suh is overpaid, yes, but he's still one of the best DLs in the game.
And Watt has been his usual dominant self.
tell me why we won't see a seahawks/patriots rematch?
>>64407642
I'm not sneak faggot
>Rodgers made the Pro Bowl over Dalton
How? Rodgers has been mediocre as fuck this year.
>Cheating to win the Super Bowl
good to see the NFL acknowledging the greatness of Sam Koch
