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Furpuck:Forward - Wayne Gretzky**
Furpuck:Defenseman - Bobby Orr
Furpuck:Goaler - Dominik Hasek/Martin Brodeur

Mandrama Technical Ring Ability - Bret "The Hitman" Hart
Mandrama Draw - "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
Mandrama Mic - Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Mandrama Hardcore - Mick Foley
Mandrama Hardcore Hipster Special - "Sick" Nick Mondo
Greco-Roman Wrestling - Aleksandr Karelin
Freestyle Wrestling - Buvaisar Satiev
Folkstyle Wrestling - Cael Sanderson
Badminton (doubles) - Mathias Boe and Carsten Mogensen

>Kahn
>not Buffon

Stopped reading there

>>64313324

I forgot there'd be a bunch of children allowed to stay up late... what with their holidays and all.

>Baresi
eh, many would say Beckenbauer or Maldini

>Clough
lel, irrelevant era of Football, it's SAF

>Ronnie O'Sullivan
>not **

>Federer
>le win most titles against shitters man
>le is Nadal gone man

>Navratilova
why not Serena?

not gonna read all that but upvoted

>>64313362
Kahn = meme
Buffon = not meme

what is so hard to understand about this?

Luciana Aymar for Field Hockey

8 time player of the year, world cup, etc

18-1

I'm a bit perplexed by this. Some of these have multiple categories (like soccer and >mandrama), and then some (like basketball) only have one. Overall it's pretty accurate but it could use some revision, in my honest lad opinion.

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ebin post :DDDDDDD:DD

Team: 2011-2015 All Blacks

>>64313528
meant to quote>>64313482

>>64313441
>eh, many would say Beckenbauer or Maldini

But those who know say Baresi.
>lel, irrelevant era of Football, it's SAF

1) SAF was a dirty, manipulative slug who carried a lot of favour with the FA

2) Manure spend more than any other club in the 90s and the club only got rich because Murdoch and Edwards paved the way to turn club football into a franchise system.

3) Clough beat the best of the best and if not the best of the best then those who beat the best of the best. With a shitty second division club. Twice. Would have done it a third time were it not for literal refball (Derby v Juve).

If you even mention the two in the same breath then you are not fit to comment on the matter good sir.


>Ronnie O'Sullivan
>not **

Henry was better technically. It isn't an open and shut case hence no **

>Federer
>le win most titles against shitters man
>le is Nadal gone man

Nadal came and went under Federer's watch.

>why not Serena?

Because Navratilova was more accomplished.

>>64313470

Thanks

>>64313482
>Kahn = meme
>Buffon = not meme

Neither of them are memes.

>>64313485
>Luciana Aymar for Field Hockey

Added

>>64313502

Split Basketball into tangible categories (with your nominations) and I'm happy to oblige.

>>64313593

As someone who knows very little about soccer but a decent amount about /sp/ Kahn is (or at least was) absolutely a meme

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>Oliver Kahn

so basically yelling the loudest makes you GOAT? lol ok

There is only one true GOAT and we all know who that is

>>64313640

Has any world-class goalkeeper NOT been a meme on /sp/?

Buffon is an exceptional creature for sticking with Juve when they ate a disproportionate share of the shit sandwich and he's rightfully respected for same.

But that doesn't in and of itself make him objectively better than Kahn.

Besides, Kahn was GOAT before /sp/ even existed.

>>64313593
>Split Basketball into tangible categories (with your nominations) and I'm happy to oblige.

I'd go with something like this.

>Basketball (offense) - Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
>Basketball (defense) - Bill Russell
>Basketball (overall) - Michael Jordan

Good list tbqh

What are the ** for?

>>64314059

oh right never mind, I'm blind

>>64314018
>>Basketball (offense) - Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
>>Basketball (defense) - Bill Russell
>>Basketball (overall) - Michael Jordan

Added

>>64314059
>>64314076

It's cool bro.

Anything that looks a bit off to you, let me know. (Especially re;- GAA/Hurling)

WRC - Loeb

>>64314111

For Hurling there are only two options, Shefflin and Christie Ring. They are from completely different eras so it's like comparing Messi and Pele

For football you could get 10 different answers from 10 different people. There isn't really one guy that stands out as the GOAT. Canavan is certainly worth a mention anyway

>>64314340
>WRC - Loeb

That's unconventional car driving, right? I'll add but can anybody think of a funny name for the style?

>>64314375

So I'm best off leaving Sheffin and Canavan up there really...

Any of the other sports that could do with a review?

>>64313284
>Boxing (heavyweight) - Muhammed Ali**

Not as great as Joe Louis or Sonny Liston.

>Boxing (p4p) - Sugar Ray Robinson*

Not as great as Marvin Hagler.

>>64315260
>Joe Louis
meme boxer who beat up more cans than Tyson
>Liston
got beat so bad the first time by Ali he gave up within a couple rounds the 2nd time

>>64313284
>Andrew Johns
>not Peter Stirling or Ricky Stuart.

I'm so fucking sick of 80's/90's kids.

>Bekele over Gebrselassie

Hmm, big call

>>64315415
>Peter Stirling

Wasn't that the era when a bunch of fucking literal Welsh sheep farmers made the several day journey to the southern hemisphere and taught you how to play rugby?

Or am I just making shit up here?

>>64315479
>Hmm, big call

I thought so too. But I made it.

>>64315354
>meme boxer who beat up more cans than Tyson

He fought in a relatively strong division and handily dispatched all opponents, you can't deny his GOAT heavyweight status.

>>64313284
>Cricket (fast bowler) - Curtly Ambrose

can you stop this meme?

sure he was great, but he wasnt even the greatest West Indian of that era

Malcolm Marshall was the greatest bowler across all conditions.

Also include another category

Cricket (all-round) - Garfield Sobers

Seems incredible we have one of these lists and Sobers isnt on it

>Richie McCaw
He's not even the best flanker. Probably the GOAT captain, but Dan Carter was more important to that team. Dan Carter is the GOAT AB but probably not the GOAT Rugby player. Don't know who'd that be. Ella literally changed the game in a way not many else have. So did Lomu.
>Andrew Johns
This is factual, Darren Lockyer was always surrounded by GOATs as was Wally Lewis. Andrew Johns found success despite his surroundings. Irrelevant though as JT is retiring as the GOAT.
>Ali
Is this list a meme?

>>64318627

How many sub-categories does cricket need? It's not like the sport is relevant anywhere outside of the commonwealth.

I will add

Cricket (all-round) - Garfield Sobers

But Ambrose remains. Leggit > Smash > Howzat!!!!

>>64318708
>Richie McCaw

You had me going for a second but just for mentioning Lomu in a serious conversation, along with your general impudence, McCaw remains and I've created a new slot for

Fly half - Jonny Wilkinson

>Andrew Johns

Glad we're agreed

>Ali
>Is this list a meme?

He was the greatest, then he got took down a peg, then he destructed the indestructible Foreman.

I'm not his biggest fan either and his behaviour towards Frazier was deplorable at best.

But he was the greatest.

Pretty sick list desu

Can't imediately see anything that needs changing.

Here's your (you)

>>64313284
I just agree about Brian Clough because of his based movie.

>>64319765

Can you believe his family hated it?

They say it portrayed him in a bad light.

>>64319788
Yeah I read about that, absolutely ridiculous. They should be relieved it wasn't garbage tbqh

>Senna
>GOAT
Anon (2015): How to Identify Plebs, 4th Edition

>>64319807

They would shit bricks if a film was made from one of his more official biographers in his darker days

>Play away to Luton
>Lose
>Some car is blocking the bus's exit
>Clough storms off bus
>Goes to office
>Grabs car keys
>Drives car several blocks away
>Climbs back on bus
>On motorway
>Tells driver;-
>I think I just stole a car
>Turn around
>Back to stadium
>Walks to housing block
>Collects car
>Puts it back
>Gets back on bus
>Passes out
>Wakes up in Nottingham at two in the morning unaware of his shenanigans

>>64319816

Who do you put ahead of Senna during the supafly era?

>>64319842
kek, sounds credible enough

>>64313593

Clough spent significantly also, the sums were just less inflated. The manipulation and media aspect of the management are part of the job, only people who know fuck all about football think not.

>>64319850

It was actually from a journalist who followed him through the eighties. Clough gave him his blessing too,

I had the book but I left it at an ex's a while back. It was a present too... It shouldn't be hard to find though. The author's first name was Duncan. I remember that much.

If you can get your hands on a copy, it's well worth a read.

>>64319859

Clough challenged the media head on and was an open book with them. It was one of his flaws if anything. Besides, he had little to spend at Forest compared to Leeds, Liverpool and United (as well as Villa and City in between). He put all of his eggs in one basket with Trevor Francis.

>>64319850
>>64319885

Here it is

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Provided-You-Dont-Kiss-Me/dp/0007247117

>>64319885
>>64319893
thanks family

>>64319908

np

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>>64313284
Best player I've seen in each sport:

Handegg
Tom Brady

Hock
Alex Ovechkin

Niggerball
LeBron James

Rounders
Barry Bonds

Divegrass
Luis Suarez

Cagesport
Anderson Silva

Sprint
Usain Bolt

Tenni
Serena Williams

Wheee
CM Punk

Face Punching
Floyd Mayweather

Porn
Lex Steele

Politics
Donald J Trump

Rap
Kanye West

Pop
Tay Tay

Best Coaches

NFL
Belichick

NBA
Popovich

MLB
Francona

NHL
Babcock

Divegrass
(RIP) Mouyes

>best manager
>not Sir Alex Ferguson

cmon m80

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>>64319933
>Politics
>Donald J Trump

Have to stop you right there.

You've misspelled Josip Broz "Tito"

>Be WW2
>Nazis overrunning my country? Ustaše and Četnik cucks killing their own people? I'm not having that shit.
>Forms Partizan resistance.
>Gets backed into a corner. Certain doom awaits.
>Fights out of said corner leaving no man behind.
>Fuck that. Doesn't even leave his dog behind.
>Frees, forms and solidifies Jugoslavija.
>Stuck behind Iron Curtain
>Stalin tells him to dance to the Moscow tune
>Tito tells him to fuck off
>Stalin sends his best KGB agents to kill Tito
>Tito kills KGB agents and calmly tells Stalin to stop trying to kill him
>Stalin doesn't listen to BASED Tito
>Tito kills Stalin
>USA say "Here's Marshall Plan monies, be our fwend"
>Soviets say "Take our monies, be our fwend"
>Tito says whatever, takes the money, builds his country and forms non-alligned treaty with Egypt, India, Algeria and so on...
>Turns Jugoslavija into a first world socialist state despite isolation from both superpowers.
>Free housing, education and healthcare for all citizens - 100% employment
>Jugoslavs enjoy more days holiday per year than any Western nation
>Jugoslavijan science programme sells rocket technology to the highest bidder - USA or USSR, Tito didn't give a shit so long as it meant money coming into his country.
>Healthcare so advanced, people from Germany, England and France went to Jugoslavija for surgery.

>>64319940

The case for Brian Clough has already been explained and confirmed half Czechoslovakia bro.

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Firstly, AFL is the name of a league, not the sport itself, and second the real GOAT is this man here.

>>64319954
>Best player I've seen in each sport:
>I've seen

>>64320154

Firstly, it means nothing else. Anywhere. In the world. Secondly, that's not Gary Ablett Jr.

>>64320160

I never said I saw him. I just said he was a better politician/statesman/strongman/man than Trump.

>>64315479

Bekele is faster and more successful. The only thing Geb has over him is a longer career.

>>64320241
Are you fucking serious idiot? Do you refer to American Football as 'NFL'? No it's just fucking retarded.

And Matthew Lloyd is GOAT. This is all the evidence you need, kid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWrMogi_6ME

I would split cycling into more categories

All round - Merckx
Grand Tours - Contador
Sprinter - ???
Track - ???

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>>64320241
this britbottle knows what's up

>>64320833
Cash Grablett isn't even as good as James Hird.

Bumping for fellow britbottles who are too cool for the catalogue.

>>64319649
Dan Carter ABSOLUTELY shits over Wilkinson, not even close, and hasn't been since 2005. Just a reminder that Wilkinson, playing in the Lions (all of the home nations combined) got absolutely fucking destroyed by Carter and the ABS 3 games in a row, Dan Carters best performance of all time being in one of them

Absolutely everybody this era views DC > Wilkinson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLQSc1sp4dE

>>64313482
wow americans just love to be retarded

>>64322862

M8, as I said, I posted JW as a retaliation to the dumb cunt's impudence.

Presumably, Kiwi's don't into banter like Aussies do.

>>64318708
It's funny. Everybody in NZ Says McCaw > Carter, outside of the contrary.

Hansen even explicitly said McCaw > DC, fyi :^)

>>64322911

They sure do.

Ah well

Football (forward) - Lionel Messi
Football (midfield) - Diego Maradona
Football (defence) - Franco Baresi
Football (goalkeeper) - Oliver Kahn
Football (manager) - Brian Clough*
Rugby Union (#8/Captain) - Richie McCaw
Rugby Union (Fly half) - Dan Carter
Rugby League - Andrew Johns
Cricket (bat) - Don Bradman**
Cricket (fast bowler) - Curtly Ambrose
Cricket (spin bowler) - Shane Warne
Cricket (all-round) - Garfield Sobers
American Football (QB) - Tom Brady
American Football (RB) - Barry Sanders
American Football (WR) - Jerry Rice
American Football (defense) - Lawrence Taylor
Baseball - Willie Mays
Baseball (no negro era) - Ty Cobb
Boxing (heavyweight) - Muhammed Ali**
Boxing (p4p) - Sugar Ray Robinson*
MMA - Fedor Emelianenko
Horse Racing (human - flat) - Bill Shoemaker
Horse Racing (human - jumps) - Tony McCoy**
Horse Racing (trainer - flat) - Vincent O'Brien
Horse Racing (trainer - jumps) - Martin Pipe
Horse Racing (equine - flat turf) - Frankel
Horse Racing (equine - flat dusty carpet) - Secretariat
Horse Racing (equine - jumps) - Arkle
Basketball (offense) - Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
Basketball (defense) - Bill Russell
Basketball (overall) - Michael Jordan
Car driving (deathcrash era) - Jim Clark*
Car driving (supafly era) - Ayrton Senna*
Car driving (faggot era) - Michael Schumacher
Cycling - Eddy Merckx*
Golf - Jack Nicklaus
Tennis - Roger Federer
Tennis (women's) - Martina Navratilova
Rap Battles - Supa Hot Fire
Track (sprint) - Usain Bolt*
Track (distance) - Kenenisa Bekele
Stickthrow - Uwe Hohn*
Stickjump - Javier Sotomayor*
Darts - Phil Taylor
Ski Jumping - Matti Nykänen
Snooker - Ronnie O'Sullivan
K1 - Ernesto Hoost
AFL - Gary Ablett Jr.
Ski and shoot - Ole Einar Bjorndalen*
Cross Country Skiing - Bjorn Dæhlie
Pool - Efren Reyes
Billiards - Raymond Ceulemans
/fit/ - Magnus ver Magnussen
Hurling - Henry Shefflin
GAA Football - Peter Canavan

Polo - Adolfo Cambiaso
Badminton - Lin Dan
Squash - Jahangar Khan*
Table Tennis - J.O. Waldner
Lacrosse - Jim Brown
Sumo - Hakuhō Shō
Enginebike - Valentino Rossi
Swimming - Michael Phelps**

Furpuck:Forward - Wayne Gretzky**
Furpuck:Defenseman - Bobby Orr
Furpuck:Goaler - Dominik Hasek/Martin Brodeur

Mandrama Technical Ring Ability - Bret "The Hitman" Hart
Mandrama Draw - "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
Mandrama Mic - Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Mandrama Hardcore - Mick Foley
Mandrama Hardcore Hipster Special - "Sick" Nick Mondo
Greco-Roman Wrestling - Aleksandr Karelin
Freestyle Wrestling - Buvaisar Satiev
Folkstyle Wrestling - Cael Sanderson
Badminton (doubles) - Mathias Boe and Carsten Mogensen
Field Hockey - Luciana Aymar


Will actually be dropping Mandrama after this post as it simply doesn't belong here.

I am open to suggestions for other sports and positions in existing sports.

>>64318627
Name a better bowler than Ambrose
Note: the four horsemen were worse
Note: Lilee and Thomson were worse
Note: Pakis are always worse than Windies

>>64323240
Glenn McGrath

>>64323581
Came to this thread to post this. Glenn is the GOAT fast bowler.

>>64313284
Andrew Johns. Get fucked.

There are 5 better players just in his position.

Don't believe me?

Allan Langer
Brett Kimmorley
Cooper Cronk
Johnathan Thurston
Stacey Jones

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>>64323581
of the last few decades, yes and he was slightly better than Ambrose, but Malcolm Marshall was LITERALLY faster, more aggressive and almost as accurate and as good at getting movement out of the ball.
He also has the superior BBC

>>64325476
fuck me, I forgot how gorgeous Marshall's action was. It's probably second only to Lillee's in terms of aesthetics

>>64325554
that's because Marshall LITERALLY stole Lillee's action when they toured Australia

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>>64313284
>Football (midfield) - Diego Maradona
lolololololololololol, etc.

>Baseball - Willie Mays
Be serious.

>Golf - Jack Nicklaus
No.

>Boxing (heavyweight) - Muhammed Ali**
NO.

>MMA - Fedor Emelianenko
NO.


OKAY, either you are 65+ years old and getting sentimental about atheltes from yesteryear, or you copied this list from a site made by a 65+ year old guy who was sentimental about atheltes from yesteryear.

>>64320807
sprinter - cavendish
track - hoy

>>64320805
>you are this mad

>>64325935
Canada, your opinion on anything sports related is as useful as a Canadian doing anything sports related.

>>64313303
>Bobby Orr over Nicholas Lidstrom

>>64323798
>Kimmorley

top lel

>>64313284
>Stickthrow - Uwe Hohn*
no.

Zelezny is the GOAT

>>64318627
kek m8, this pom posts this same retarded list every month and despite numerous people calling him out on his poor cricketing knowledge, he will always leave ambrose there

>>64322862
Mehrtens > cartlel

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The tennis one doesn't hold water unless you count

>The tennis tour had a unified circuit of tournaments that everyone was mandated to play
Even though the ATP stretches back to 1973 there was a bunch of other tours competing against it back then, the WCT and ITF to say the least. Many players were banned from tournaments for not toeing the line and a lot of players skipped whatever and only played the tournaments when they wanted. It wasn't until 1990 that the ATP got their shit together and players started regularly playing the same tournaments

>Grand Slams all carry the same weight
Highly arguable, especially with the Australian which only got credibility when it moved Melbourne in 1987.

>Grand Slams are all mandatory tournaments that you can't skip
This didn't happen until 2000, a lot of players still skipped the Australian even players like Agassi who was one of the most successful players there.

>All Grand Slams were a consistent surface
They've changed over the years, US Open was Grass, then Clay in 1975 before becoming the Hard Courts in 1978 we know today. The Australian was Grass and then became Hard with the previously mentioned move to Melbourne. All this had an immediate effect on who won or lost at those tournaments. Most controversial being the changed at Wimbledon to 100% rye grass in 2002. 2001 saw a final between two big serve-volleyers (Ivanisavic-Rafter), 2002 suddenly saw two baseliners (Hewitt-Nalbandian) and has been the case ever since

>Grand Slams have 32 seed draws
This changed in 2001 which meant that the best player in the world could no longer theoretically draw the 17th best player in the world in the 1st round. Draws have become much easier for the top players to make into the later rounds.

So all this happened after 2001...hmmm who came along after that to take advantage of such homogenization and consistency... Oh wow it must be the greatest player ever