So we hear all day about how Brady is a system babby and all that good jazz. Why do we never hear about Belichick being a Brady babby? After all, he had a losing record in Cleveland and a losing record the first year in NE without Brady at the helm.
>>64258920
Because that would require /sp/ to give credit where it's due.
He did wonders with Cleveland despite the record and did well previously in his other minor coaching terms
>>64258968
his defensive plan to shut down the bills' offense in super bowl xxv is in the hall of fame
he's a defensive wizard, but he needed someone to run the offensive side of things
>>64258920
Because this is /sp/
>>64258920
went 11-5 with cassel m8
>>64259017
and 5-11 with Drew Bledsoe (5-13 if you count the start of next season)
>>64259017
>get 5 less wins with exact same personnel
>this is supposed to prove something
but hey, thanks for posting
>>64259029
where as peytons team got 13 less wins
>>64259041
Curtis Painter is a special kind of retarded though.
>>64259041
Why do you feel the need to lie on the internet to prove your point?
The Colts went from 10-6 in 2010 to 2-14 in 2011. That's an 8 win difference, and the franchise was literally trying to lose games on purpose in order to get Luck
>>64259051
sorry i got the years mixed up, 9 wins then almost twice the amount of bradley
>>64259041
it was actually an 8 win difference
in a season where the starting QBs were:
>a previously retired 38 year old titans reject
>a QB who only completed above 55% of his passes in 2 out of his 14 career games played and who threw for more than double the amount of interceptions as his passing TDs, and averaged less than 6 yards per pass attempt for his career
but yeah, the two situations are super similar and should be compared frequently
Bellichick is a Brady babby, not the other way around. The quarterback makes the coach, not the other way around. Any suggestion to the contrary is absurd. How soon we forgot the hoodie got shitcanned by the Browns.
>>64259088
this would imply cassel isnt complete dog shit
it would also imply it was only the qbs and not also the dog shit coaching and supporting cast which peyton dragged through every season
>>64259101
yeah a QB who threw for less than 2k yards his whole career is really comparable to a QB good enough to hang around the league for 10 years and even go to a pro bowl
you've really mastered this whole equivalency thing haven't you
fun fact: in matt cassel's worst season in KC, he threw for more yards, the same number of touchdowns, and fewer interceptions than curtis painter did his whole career, all while starting only 8 games
but yeah curtis painter===matt cassel the situations are completely the same wow what a coincidence that is
>>64259122
nice strawman
>>64259137
nice fucking argument o'flaherty
you're basically trying to equate one of the worst starting QBs of all time with a career backup who had a year where he was a top 10 QB and a couple other decent years
the two just aren't similar at all in talent level, but your entire argument hinges on the idea that they are
so what now? got any more spicy "facts" for us today?
>>64259155
>you're basically trying to equate one of the worst starting QBs of all time with a career backup who had a year where he was a top 10 QB and a couple other decent years
no im not, thats why youre strawanning
>>64259165
ok, so matt cassel is bad enough that if brady wasn't a complete and total system baby the pats would have gone 8-8 in 2008? is that what you're saying right now?
that's a pretty good approach
remember, correct me if i'm wrong, because i really want to know your true feelings on the subject
>>64259165
>>64259101
>>64259041
fuck off patty. irish shitposting is the worst
>>64259099
>Brady played defense against the Rams
Bellichick is definitely a system babby
literally did nothing in cleveland. Brady has carried him. Plus he needed to film teams practices.
Really sad to see.
>>64261580
>Plus he needed to film teams practices.
It doesn't help Brady to know what defense is being run?
>>64261419
>Belichick led the game winning drive with 0:50 left
If that game had gone to OT Rams would've won. Patriots couldn't stop them in the 4th
Guess who's keeping offenses in check while waiting for Brady to get his shit straight
>>64261621
Is there a game winning drive if the defense doesn't hold the greatest show on turf to 17 points? The Rams averaged over 30 points per game that year. If they hit their average, Vinatieri's field goal cuts the deficit to 10 points instead of giving them the win.
>>64261683
Oh, and in addition, the defense was responsible for 7 of the Pat's 20 points. That allowed a team whose offense could only muster 13 points to win the game.
