So... continuing the old thread.
Also, a question. How can a N.1 status affect N.2 driver? Shouldn't they have the same car and same engine? Other than team orders, I can't see how some could have their performances so deeply affected.
I'm specially referring to Eddie Irvine in 99, for example.
>>64254575
http://www.fastcompany.com/3029762/how-a-popular-two-letter-word-is-undermining-your-credibility
>>64254690
So, I just read that autistic article.
Priority for new and replacement parts, the car is inherently designed towards the needs of the number one drivers, one-way setup work (number one gets to look at your setup if something is awry, good luck doing it the other way around), general psychological influence.
>>64254575
Well, the Number 1 status is not limited to just team orders.
In most cases, the Number 1 driver also gets first pick on new development parts of car and engine (which happens to this day, when only one of a new part is available), they get the best strategy, and perhaps most importantly, they get a lot of influence on the direction of development of the car.
So, when the hitherto Number 2 gets full backing of the team, they can finally set up the car to be ideal for them.
Taking your example of Eddie Irvine and '99, James Allen writes of an example - Ferrari had a new spec of rear wing development, which Schumacher tested. He didn't particularly like it, and it didn't make much difference to lap time, so Ferrari shelved it.
Then, post-Silverstone, when Irvine tested the wing, he immediately went half-a-second faster. It was a case of the new development suiting the style of Irvine but not Schumacher. Had they put on the new wing, Irvine could have done much better from earlier in the season, but since the development of the car was focused on the number 1, the number 2's performance suffered.
>>64254904
So, how was it?
>>64255211
So so
>tfw no Schumi ;_;
>>64255822
I still have some hope to see Schumi back in the paddock visiting old mates in some 10 years :(
>>64256232
even if it's the mika dragging him around in a wheelchair
>>64256232
>>64256232
>>64256238
I would literally cry tears of joy if he got well enough for this, Tbh.
>>64256232
Michael Schumacher (1969-2016)
>>64256706
Who will be first. Murray or Schumi?
>>64248745
Never. I was close, but I never quite was able to push the button.
>>64255180
>Well, the Poo status is not limited to just designated shitting streets.
>>64256232
It's because of people like you that he is still suffering in that bed
>>64254575
Do you guys actually spend time watching this glorified procession?
Literally every other motorsport is more exciting, even turn left. It's run by a manlet scumbag who sucks off the highest bidder.
Go watch the start of the WEC race at fuji this year and come talk to me about how there's more overtaking in a few laps than a whole f1 season. F1 would've pussied out of even racing because there's some rain.
Anyone who only likes f1 and no other motorsport literally knows nothing about motorsports.
>Despite this overwhelming amount of evidence that f1 is fake and gay, someone will try argue.
http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/news/2015/december/jaguar-returns-to-racing.aspx
>>64258403
wtf is this livery lol
>>64258403
Noice
>>64258372
Here's your (You).
>>64258372
Yes, manbabies watch F1 all the time.
There is WEC around and people watch F1.
In 2015 + 11 + 15
No wonder this thread is full of filthy indians. By the way,
>>64258429
POO2LOO
>watching the meme series WEC
>not knowing about the eternal bubble of endurance racing
>British Wehrlein
>>64258546
and Nico still gets dominated by him
>>64258372
you should've asked why companies throw so much money at it instead
>>64258592
>companies throw the same budget of Toro Rosso on LMP1
>have better marketing income from it than in F1
>>64258598
>have better marketing income from it than in F1
Oh my god, this nigga is actually serious. Comedy gold, my man.
>>64258626
Feel free to go to Audi and ask them how they feel about racing on
>meme racing
rather than
>Formula Mercedes
>>64258633
Yeah, I am certain the company that has dominated LMP racing for 15 years now may have positive feelings about it. Now, about Toyota, Nissan etc., well, needing to ask them is pointless. I'll just rub the inevitable news pieces regarding their withdrawal from WEC under your nose when they arrive near the end of this century.
Endurance racing is simply not economically sustainable because it fails to appeal to a mainstream audience. Just study the history of the late World Sportscar Championship and you will see the future of the WEC.
>>64258666
>Yeah, I am certain the company that has dominated LMP racing for 15 years now may have positive feelings about it.
Thanks for agreeing with me, my point stands.
>>64258666
And by century, I meant decade.
Do the black nations like Brazil, Argentina & South Africa bandwagon Hamilton?
>>64258546
He talked about that in the bbc season review and he said something like Matt Damon wasn't there yet so Ridley Scott told Hamilton that he can try and act out that scene and he really enjoyed it, that was the high point of his weekend and when he got to the paddock everything started to go down.
>>64258697
>the nigger is actually from the Islamic Kingdom of Bongistan
>>64258697
I wouldn't say I like him, I appreciate his respect for Senna, but 2008 still brings a bad taste to the mouth.
Our media (Globo) tries to push him for the casuals as a the hero because
>he's mixed just like us
>>64258717
But he's as black like you guys right. I mean it's not like Bruno Senna is coming back & Rubens was the ultimate #2 driver. Brazil hasn't got much to cheer for so might as well get something close to your roots right
>>64256840
murray. he's what, 90? schumacher will live for a long time, unless he takes the dignitas route.
>>64258730
>like you guys
TOP KEK
>Alonso
Can't fabricate this shit
http://www.foxsports.com.au/motor-sport/formula-one/f1-fiat-chrysler-considering-bringing-alfa-romeo-brand-back-to-formula-1-competing-with-ferrari/story-e6frf3zl-1227646142368
please make it happen,
get one of those useless teams out of the way
>>64259360
>2017 could have Mercedes, Ferrari, Alfa Romeo & Aston Martin and Renault
We /1950s/ now? Wasn't that the last time when these many manufacturer-backed teams were on the grid?
>>64259410
Ferrari, Honda, Toyota, BMW and Renault literally 7 years ago?
> designated shitposting newfag
>>64259432
since mercedes had shares in mclaren that makes it six manufacturers
>>64259410
>>64259432
And that does not include McMercedes, too.
And Spyker in 2007, but they had customer engines.
>>64259410
>We /POO2LOO/ now? Wasn't that the last time when these many indian-backed Rajeets were on the designated?
>>64259432
>>64259448
I meant that particular combination of manufacturers. I worded it extremely poorly. My bad.
>newfag
I've watched all seasons live since 2000, and all previous seasons dating back to '84 from the megatorrent.
>McMerc
>manufacturer
They were a works team, but not a manufacturer.
>>64259445
25% shares. I'd argue it's not enough to be called a manufacturer team, but that'd undermine Aston Martin being considered one too.
>>64259521
aston martin is literally just sponsorship money. if the deal even goes through they'll be just as much a manufacturer as infiniti are, i.e. not at all.
>>64258666
>be me
>go to Le Mans
>fucking huge corporate events for all car makers
>audi showing that the lights they developed for their Le Mans cars are now on their road cars
>audi and Toyota talking about how hybrid systems are now in road cars
Meanwhile in f1
>we'll instate rules about team spending but let redbull spend double anyway
>Ferrari propping up new teams to get extra testing time
And I'm not arguing that more people watch f1, I know that's a fact.
I'm pointing out how ya'll need to watch legit racing series like WEC, supergt, motogp, gt endurance racing, v8 supercars, btcc rather than the shitshow that F1 calls "racing" every 2 weeks.
>>64259558
I'm aware, which is why I can't question McLaren Merc being a manufacturer, even though I personally think 25% shares aren't enough.
I just thought it was an interesting coincidence that Merc, Ferrari, Alfa and Aston as major names were last in F1 in the 50s.
>>64259603
>ya'll need to watch legit racing series
Fair enough, and I'd say most of us already do.
>rather than the shitshow that F1 calls "racing"
Why 'rather than'? Why not both (which is the case for most people in these threads anyway)?
>>64259603
>legit racing series
>motogp
Pick one
>>64259621
Aston Martin did not compete against Mercedes and Alfa Romeo in the 50s.
>>64259656
Forget it. My point was that the last decade that list of teams existed in together was the 50s.
An irrelevant coincidence which for some reason I found interesting.
>>64259499
You are a newfag in /f1/, poo2loo.
Besides, do you have to reply to every comment in every thread? Jesus...
>>64259698
>shit on streets
>thinks he can talk about f1 on the internet
>>64260014
>Besides, do you have to reply to every comment in every thread?
Yes. Yes I do. Simply because it triggers you.
>>64260277
Get a room you two
this Brazilian's obsession with the Indian is pretty sad 2bh
>>64260314
So true. I'm getting tired of this shit. (pun not intended)
Maybe they should start their own thread. Or just meet in some chatbox.
>>64260314
It was funny when I first noticed it starting up again about 3 threads ago, but I don't want to hear two weeks of
>Poo2loo
>HueHue
The Brazilian's obsession is just creepy
thank god I have them filtered
Most annoying people in current /f1/ power ranking:
1. The Hue
2. The Poo2Loo
3. The Stop Bullying Me
4. Loserbernd
GAP
5. Friendly Reminder (although I'm sure that it's 3-4 Germans with the pasta these days)
>>64260884
teach us your ways Hungarybro
>>64260997
>3 out of the top 5 are German
What can we conclude from this, gents?
>Pray for the Michael
>>64260997
0. Ahmed
>>64258413
It will change
>>64260997
Personally I find Dorftrottel like you to be most annoying.
>>64260997
Indiabro is only annoying when he's responding to the Hue
>>64261214
>which is all the time, since The Hue™ is posting poo2loo every 10 minutes
>>64260997
there are annoying brits but there are disguised by the good brits, like me
Do you guys think we will get any closer to engine parity next year?
Really hoping to see more than one team fighting for wins next year.
>>64261377
No, not really. MWL for another whole season
>tfw wwe is less predictable than f1
>>64261377
Ferrari might get closer, since Mercedes will (hopefully) be getting diminishing returns on their developments now. But to overhaul Merc would still be a tough ask. and even to compete with them will only be possible for the works team.
Renault is a bit of a puzzle for me; they were the clear second best last year, and fell back massively this year.
Honda will win nothing.
>>64261452
Overhauling Merc is not a tough ask if compared to pooing in the loo just for once in life, if you are Rajeet.
>Ron Dennis today cuts an outdated and out of touch figure. Again, in Abu Dhabi, he said that he hated “tweeting and all the other social media. I think it’s not the way for the future.” As a wise Paddock sage noted, these words on the future seemed to have come from a man living in the past. One who, until very recently, did not really understand what an email was and told people he needed to contact that he would do so by sending them “an internet.”
Well memed Ron, well memed.
>>64261532
Is he the majority stakeholder of McLaren Group? Or is the rest of the advisory board as clueless as he is?
>>64261613
I think the Bahraini consortium holds the
majority (around 50%), with Ron holding 25%. Dunno about the rest.
>>64261613
>clueless
Friendly reminder when Whitmarsh was running shit in F1, he unironically hired Perez.
>>64261642
I think the Indians shit on streets on their majority (around 50%), with rivers being 25%.
>>64261642
on Wiki it says he owns 75%
not sure if that's accurate though
>>64259603
Most people posting here do watch both, calm your shit man
>>64261653
The only thing negative about Perez is that he was too fast on occasion and triggered Button.
>>64261654
Yeah, Wiki claims he bought back the Bahraini shares at the end of last year. But I remember reading that the deal fell through because it depended on Ron bringing in a certain amount of money to the team via sponsorship deals, which he failed to do within the specified timeframe.
Not sure how true that story was, though.
>>64261685
Him only scoring 23 points to Button's 66 before India (when the car got a bunch of great upgrades but Button started having shit luck) was far worse than that.
>>64261685
that and the fact he's a shit driver, and so is button
>>64261356
you're not fooling anyone Nige
>>64258413
LOOKS GUYS LOOK HOW AWESOME ELECTRIC POWER CAN BE IT'S LIKE TRON AND THOR HAD A LIGHTNING BABY OH IT'S SO COOL LOOK AT ALL THESE NEON COLOOOOORS!!!!!
>>64261653
Why the hate on Pajeet, famm?
>>64261953
>cars still can't shoot each other with lightning bolts during the race
shit 2bh
>>64262144
Come to think of it, that would be a great way to encourage clean racing, but conductors on the cars, and if cars behind another come closer than a certain amount, charge could be transferred in a visually exciting way, also promoting overtaking.
Like a more THORSOME version of DRS!
I just watched 2012 abu-dhabi
Jesus fuck its like it was a different Raikkonen. Pls come back old gimi ;_;
>>64261421
I feel like I need to say something about this. I see people posting this like its the end of the sport. Not specifically your post but it happens mostly on places where retards aren't afraid to speak, like reddit.
F1 will always be prone to have boring during races. F1 is not a spec racing series, there will always be a big performance difference between cars, bigger than what driver ability can compensate for in most cases.
Faster cars will most likely always qualify in front of slower cars. During a race, without any unpredictable element, this will cause the fast cars to distance themselves, and slow cars to fall behind, and this happens all around the field.
This is purely the nature of the sport. If you want to watch cars passing each-other all around go watch Indy-car or something. Please don't come here and force your spec bullshit to F1 like less aero and spec floors and any other shit to make cars slow just because of overtaking. This is not what F1 should be about
Thankfully FIA agrees with that. I cant wait for 2017.
>>64262726
I can agree with this, i like F1 for the amount of TECHNOLOGY it adds to racing.
I think the only reason why people want to ban certain aspects to racing, is to bring it down to the lower levels of other teams. Which is fine and all, but that just prevents the main goal of the 'sport', and that is to go inhumanely fast.
Though it is frustrating to see a mediocre driver dominate the field simply because he has the better car though.
>>64262826
>Though it is frustrating to see a mediocre driver dominate the field simply because he has the better car though.
Agree, but that is just how it is. Challenging for the title is a privilege among the F1 drivers, not a right.
>>64262726
The problem is that in the past, teams were able to freely improve their cars week to week. Now there is this token shit and any aero changes need approved etc.
Of course the best teams would still be the best, that doesn't change even in a full spec series like Indycar. But the simple possibility meant you didn't have to brace for a full season of near identical results and novelty could happen not because of rain but because a team made a daring improvement (that everyone subsequently copied). I think the double decker diffuser was the last case of such a thing.
>>64262917
not only that, but when a team breaks through with large improvements.
It creates a huge shit storm, and it makes it enjoyable to watch again.
>Ford will never hate Ferrari with a terrible passion again
>>64262889
I completely agree with you
>>64262726
I disagree.
F1 is about building the fastest car given a formula. If part of that formula dictates spec parts to improve the racing then so be it.
If manufacturers want to piss away money developing hybrid tech then let them do so. But there needs to be a low cost alternative to keep teams around for them to beat.
>>64263079
Fuck off, "low cost" regulations are the very thing killing the sport. Most of the "low cost" rules force the smaller ta to spend more money than they otherwise would anyway. It's a joke
>>64263101
The only thing that's a joke is the cost of these new engines.
>>64263079
To a certain point, i think you are correct, but with technology. Especially newer ideas, they will always be more expensive. And as time progresses, it becomes cheaper.
If they were to give only dimension regulations, that is where the imagination and creativity stems from imo
>>64263071
you have good taste in cars
>>64262726
>F1 will always be prone to have boring during races.
Nope. Opinion discarded.
>>64263079
Regulations are welcome but when you start making cars slow because of overtaking you're doing it wrong.
Priorities are:
1. Fast cars
2. Everything else
>>64263121
t-thank you. such an elegant livery. poor peter revson - would-be revelon heir. same goes for piers courage and courage brewery.
>>64263221
my favourite part of that era was there were no barriers.
And if there were, there was very little of it. Monza was scary as fuck
>>64263121
>>64263071
>>64262967
>>64263221
look like silly mario kart cars lmao
>>64263287
they slid around like them as well
>>64258810
>not enjoying you paid holiday with included trackdays, masseuse and lots of cash
>>64261802
Lots of cars running fuel tonight lads
>>64258413
>>64261194
I loved 2000-2004 Jaguar. Such a shame they were shit.
>>64258810
>Roberto Merhi
>50.000
how? isn't the minimum wage for an F1 driver set at €150.000 per year?
>>64260314
>>64260425
>Karun Chandhok vs Ricardo Rosset
>>64263775
reminded me of this
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/48914/1/jaguar-one-of-our-diamonds-is-missing.html
>>64263809
>minimum wage for a driver
What
>>64264206
unions
>>64259410
Agreed, imagine in a few years:
Mercedes
Ferrari
Aston Martin
Mclaren-Honda
Renault
NASCAR team
Audi or Porsche
Alfa Romeo
Williams
That's a lot of relevant names that will surely make the competition more fierce and exciting. BMW will want to jump in as well if all their competitors are doing it.
>>64264242
Does the GPDA have any power? There aren't any regulations about minimum salaries as far as I can google, I'll be happy to be proven wrong. I can't even find who all the members of the GPDA are except for the chairmen and some articles about Kimi and Max not being in it. Even if such a regulation existed, many of these drivers are essentially paying their own salary via personal sponsors.
>>64264531
Also Mehri didn't run a full season, which may factor in, if there is a minimum salary.
>>64264575
it might be like a quarter back, after he plays a certain amount of games, he can no longer be red shirted
And I think the soul purpose of the GPDA is safety, not so much salary or politics
>>64259603
>Including Touring cars as 'legit racing'
The BTCC has been shit since 1998
Why are British car brands so shit?
>>64264662
they dont because none of them exist anymore excpet for a taxi company
>>64264662
At least they have brands
Also I think many of their companies are neat and make cool sports cars
>>64264654
1999 desu.
>>64264694
Well that was the first year after the 1998 peak.
>Got in home in time for Smash
Fuck yeah
>>64264727
2000 was shit.
>no volvo, renault or nissan
>class b championship
modern btcc is like indycar. just not the same.
indycar is at least watchable. but cart was the eternal goat, and battered formula 1. in my eyes anyway.
>>64264677
That's exactly what makes me so curious. They have a lot of talent for sure, most of f1 is based there. They even created a lot of what we consider a modern car, but still, British brands are nothing compared to Italian/american/German brands.
I'm back lads
>>64264881
Many of them focus on making niche cars like Ariel, Caterham, Ginetta, Radical and Ultima. Even their larger companies that are owned by cogomerates focus on niches rather than selling to the lowest common consumer. I don't know the history or why that is, but the economy/lower priced market is dominated by Toyota and Volkswagen so there seems to be no point to trying to re enter it.
>>64265058
*conglomerates
>tfw never catch typos until it is too late
>tfw autocorrect is fucking useless
>>64265058
>>64265082
VW was created on the selling point of making sure everyone had a car. Similar to beginnings of Ford.
Toyotta has made a huge profit in the past making reliable cheap cars that could compete with upper situates. They are/were similar to Chrysler when they were good/decent.
>Sources said that an Aston Martin board meeting last week had concluded with directors leaning towards a decision not to re-enter F1 for the first time since 1960.
FORSKINDIA BTFO
>>64265461
Daily reminder the """""Aston Martin""""" in the GT scene is just Prodrive doing their thing.
>>64265461
Booooooo
>>64265461
My email campaign of sending them public shitting videos paid off!
>>64265671
nice
>>64264662
god focused all his energy on saving the queen rather than the industries
>>64265925
i blame the EU
>>64265950
I blame the men in brown suits at British Leyland who flew our whole industry too close to the sun in the 70s.
>>64265975
the black and tans?
or """"Eco friendly''''''''''''' people
>>64265531
>>64265993
This excessive quotes shit is retarded pls stop, you aren't a 13 year old girl.
>>64266008
sorry ill add more satire next time
>>64265461
>people genuinely thought aston martin would buy into force india
>people genuinely thought aston martin would give force india mercedes-level budget
>people genuinely thought it would make force india competitive
>>64266046
I don't think Aston's total revenue could even match Merc's F1 budget
>>64266099
they're spending a shitload on electric powertrains too
>>64266126
Shit. James bond is going to ride a electric car in the next movie?
>>64266156
He'll probably be in a genderfluid phase too.
>>64266168
atleast they wont tarnish Daniel Craig
Next Bond will be Bailey J
>>64266126
>Aston Martin vs Jaguar vs Audi vs Renault vs Citroen in Formula E
I would be okay with is
>>64266168
>>64266231
>Implying it won't be Nicki Minaj who also will be the new Doctor in DW
>>64266249
>the 100 year formula
>>64266266
Bond gotta have a dick mang
>>64266313
Fuck of cis shitlord
>>64266313
Laverne Cox then
>>64266313
I've got some news for you
>>64266323
>>64266231
>>64266354
i for one welcome our new overlord Bailey Jay
>>64266231
TOP FUCKING KEK:
>There was the interview with Danish television that he asked to start again after forgetting the name of the team’s young GP2 stand out Stoffel Vandoorne. They couldn’t of course. They were live. And so Ron compounded his error by talking up their other young prospect, Nick. Nick Heidfeld
put ron in a care home desu.
and from cuckcedes:
>The investigation has shown no reason to believe that information has been transferred to Ferrari nor have any of the court documents made any allegation regarding any inappropriate conduct by Ferrari
>>64266637
>Nick. Nick Heidfeld
oh ron, you senile devil
>>64266637
He's showing a lot of promise in Formula E, I for one think he might be the most promising young talent since Susie Wolff
>>64266929
I dunno, that young Jacques Villeneuve fellow looks pretty quick
>>64266008
Misread your post and thought you said 'excessive quotas' with respect to the 'black and tans'.
>>64266249
I'm not gonna be happy until Tesla is sponsoring a FE team.
So who's most likely to be a future champion?
>Stoffel Vandoorne
>Kevin Magnussen
>Fag Verstappen
>Alexander Rossi
>Pascal Wehrlein
>Roberto Merhi
>Rio Haryanto
>Carlos Sainz Jr
Obviously the last 3 are just for the lulz
>>64268845
Basedstappen as long as he doesn't go to the Fernando Alonso School of Changing Teams
>>64268845
>MAD MAX
>Vandoorne
>Mehri if he's kissed on the arse by the Mercedes angel while they're still dominant - watch him take Choco Senna's seat when Lew Lew leaves to make music videos with Snoop Dogg
>Carcrash Sainz Jr is underrated; if he got lucky with a car and lucky with points he could end up with one in a Button/Hill/Villeneuve kinda way
>>64268845
Sainz is good, he has a better chance than most of those on that list except maybe Verstappen and Vandoorne
>>64268876
>tfw Alonso never won a championship with Ferrari
>>64268845
>no reechardo
>no buttass
>no kiwiyacht
Most entertaining team of the year?
Top Racing Memory: Nick Heidfeld almost being killed by Prost in the first ever ePrix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG1VPss4LKI
No moment in racing I've witnessed has captured me like this prime overtake attempt
>>64269615
To be fair from a Formula E/Agag perspective I think that may have been best thing ever.
They got so much fucking coverage on all news channels because of that.
>>64269667
Could you imagine if Heidfeld got potato'd though that would've absolutely killed that league in the first race.
>>64269667
>>64269679
I couldn't believe it when I first saw it, Heidfeld flipped like 3 times in the air and landed on a concrete barrier upside down, on another day he could have just as easily died
>>64264803
>cart was the eternal goat
Damn right, Britbro.
(Not being a homer here, just appreciating great racing.)
>>64269615
did Prost get any punishment for that? that looked blatantly deliberate
>>64269679
>got potato'd
>>64269997
Yeah, I can't remember exactly what but he did, his dad probably yelled at him to kek
>>64269893
Based Menard's liveries
>>64270280
alain just knows that ayrton would've done it do him if he ever had the chance
>>64269997
He got a 10 place grid drop for the next race.
>>64269615
Dude should have hit that motherfucker in the mouth with a tire iron for that bullshit...
how do i filter brazil
>>64269893
>>64270294
One of the last pictures of Greg Moore, too - that was just before the crash that killed him.
Four wide at 240mph...if a racer has to go out, that's a pretty ballsy way to go.
>>64271260
>That crash
>>64271260
>>64271389
What killed him? was it the g force? Was it hitting the wall with the head at +150 km/h? was it the rolling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tl-6oqN0i4
>>64265531
But that's the same as saying Jaguar winning Le Mans in 88 and 90 was just TWR doing their thing. Nobody remembers it like that.
So lads, I finally got through rewatching the 2010-2014 seasons, what seasons should i watch next?
>>64271927
You must be tired of hearing Hamilton and Vettel
Watch Le Mans with Steve McQueen in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be3-J9XtJCw
>>64271927
'97 or '98. Or maybe 2003
>>64265671
You forgot your Indian proxy, m8jeesh.
>>64263409
>blue and yellow livery
what the fuck were they thinking about
>>64272364
they knew they'd be signing alonso
>>64254690
>brogrammers
>>64272752
>you now remember Narain Karthikeyan
>>64266637
Did he actually say Heidfeld?
If not, he probably meant Nick de Vries. One of there young drivers in FR3.5.
>>64272854
heidfeld was also a mclaren test driver back in the day
>>64272718
That reaction of Smedley. Pure gold
>>64272162
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POO2LOO desu senpai.
Jenson is standing on the big building at the Abu Dhabi circuit. He wants to demonstrate how safe it is. He claims that if you fell you would simply slide to the bottom. He feels so strongly about this he is willing to use he daughter to test the theory. He drops her. At first she slides, but then the angle becomes too steep and she begins to tumble. She lands awkwardly on a pile of pillows and is pronounced dead at the scene.
lame webms tbqh
>>64272718
>tfw that crushing feeling I forgot to buy ice this morning
>>64271927
heh, i'm doing the same, starting from 2014 working backwards until the files are no longer HD and almost done with 2013 (just watched Korea and it was fairly entertaining despite that track's awful reputation)
after that, gonna start with Schumi's rookie season and work up to where i left off and then finally chronologically from 1978
>>64272718
Been watchin F1 on and off for about 3 years now, how long will Haas last you lads think?
>>64273965
gene will have a stroke at monaco 2017 and the team will collapse after his immediate death
>>64273983
Will Grosjean carry the Haas-Ferrari machine or die by it?
>>64274004
Gutierrez surely isn't going to be scoring points
>>64274242
What do you think their ceiling is for 2016, a top 7 finish or two? Can they even achieve that much I wonder, everyone seems to think Haas is gonna get wrecked and I can't really disagree
>>64274268
I think they will be slightly better than expected, competitive lower midfield at worst
>>64274317
Its a dallara chassis . I'd keep my expectations for now tbhfam
>>64274317
most of their hirees are from marussia and caterham
won't be competitive lad
>>64274340
>>64274355
I'm putting a bit of stock in the fact that Haas as team has a solid racing background and the fact that they received some Ferrari International Assistance
I accept the fact that they will probably suck major assholes but my spirit and optimism will not be broken
>>64272364
Im not sure, they only had it blue for two races in 1964 though
>Haas F1 will never have this livery
>>64274390
haas exploiting the wind tunnel loophole was 100% to benefit ferrari's 2016 aero via testing as many parts as they like rather than to benefit haas in any meaningful way, as those 70 ferrari employees who were briefly on the haas payroll are not in any way shape or form involved with the design of the haas car.
their car will be shit, their pitstops will be shit, their strategy will be shit, esteban will be shit and the us will have yet another failed team.
>>64274417
whoa lad, let's wait until they fail to throw them into the fire, an American team will be good for F1
>>64274408
i love that the people who design those concept liveries never took the time to realise that ferrari have a strict policy of never allowing customer teams to put ferrari logos on their car
instead you just see the prancing horse plastered everywhere they can manage to cram them into
>>64274439
If Haas helped Ferrari cheat the least they could do was let them use the pony tbqhwymf (to be quiet honest with you my friend)
>>64274408
The yellow paint is actually kind of good looking, though I would have gone with baby blue
>>64274439
>Americans in charge of giving a shit about foreign nation policies
>>64274446
Nah. That is not how it works m8. Its a brand thing. Ferrari is ultra-excluisve. The only car that can ever carry a Ferrari logo is a Ferrari.
>>64274436
not doubting that, gene is just in way over his depth and believes that five or six strong employees will mean the team will be competitive while ignoring the need for the 150+ others who are integral for having a functioning unit.
>>64274417
>Being so negative
What's got you so down f.a.m?
>>64274446
>>64274468 is exactly right. the only customer team to ever carry ferrari logos were NART and that's because they were literally works ferraris
>>64274499
>>64274468
I know, just shooting the shit, though I do hope they keep their Black and Yellow livery
>>64274470
I think they know they're gonna be shit they just don't want to say it so they can gather more hype/fans, either way I'm sure Haas-Ferrari will bring us some laughs
Would f1 be better if the grid was replaced entirely by Porche factory drivers?
Mark Webber
Earl Bamber
Nick Tandy
Patrick Long
Patrick Pilet
Brendan Hartley
Timo Bernhard
Jorg Bergmeister
Neel Jani
Roman Dumas
Wolf Henzler
Michael Christensen
Marc Lieb
Richard Lietz
Frederic Makowiecki
Kevin Estre
>>64274571
Nope, some of them have only driven Porsches for the last 10 years.
>but
>Would a category make entirely out of Porsche LMP1s, GTEs and GT3s be better than F1?
Yes.
