What's even the point of the group and knockout stages?
Just glad Barcelona and Bayern took it easy today, no need to risk injuries against lesser teams like neverkusen with memerito and all the assblasted mexicans
Honestly Real cock it up at times, that's sort of entertaining. Apart from that the meme club often becomes /sp/'s team
let's hope for Zenit
funny how if it were 2005, Milan's crest would be in place of Bayern's in that pic
>>64112760
Yes, time moves on. Things change. Entropy reigns.
>>64112808
PSG will be the meme club this year
This is why Europa league is based
>>64112808
That's a nice way of putting it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal
>>64112760
luckily bayern isnt ruled by a fraut like berlusconi
>>64112760
there wasn't a top 3 like this in 2005. shit had more parity
>>64112760
It would be Chelsea, Barcelona and Milan
Madrid were old and shit while Bayern were on the decline and wouldn't experience any European success until 2010
http://strawpoll.me/6223521
http://strawpoll.me/6223521
>>64112906
>90s CL
>italian domination with Juve and Milan
>90s EL
>JUVE and Inter and Parma
>2000s
>Milan and Barca
not exactly parity Gianluca
>>64112919
>cd-rome
i feel bad for giggiling at that
>>64112980
but 2005 isnt the 90's at all
>>64112919
>no Bee Foul Bee option
dropped
>>64113006
i included the 90s part to preempt any "THE PAST HAD MORE PARITY" memeing
>>64113006
2005 wasn't much better than right now. Chelsea, Milan and Barcelona were by far the best teams, Juventus, Bayern and maybe Madrid were a step below and then came the rest with Liverpool memeing their way to the title 2012 Chelsea style.
Shit tier draws ruined that edition since we got Barcelona vs Milan in the group stages and Chelsea vs Barcelona in the 2nd round
>>64113025
i know, i was just too stupid to read
>>64112980
>>64113025
but there wasn't a top three so far ahead of the others in 2005
>>64112760
>forgetting england made 5 straight finals and an all england final
>>64112896
Yeah it's ruled by a fraud like Hoeness
>2006 group stage
what the fuck happened?
>>64113094
>top three so far ahead of the others in 2005
which top 3 is so far ahead of the others right now? Because Real is behind Atletico in the league and lost the head to head game and played a very close and competitive tie vs PSG that could've gone either way
>>64112980
>real madrid, barca, bayern and a meme team
>2003 milan, juventus, inter, real madrid
>2004 porto, monaco, chelsea, deportivo
>2005 liverpool - milan - chelsea - psv
>2006 barca, arsenal, milan, villareal
>2007 milan, liverpool, manchester, chelsea
>2008 manchester, chelsea, liverpool, barca
>2009 barca, manchester, arsenal, chelsea
>>64112576
>buyern dicked by Borussia Mond
>Real literally look like shit getting dicked by atletico and barca while giving up 3 goals vs shaktar
>>64113087
Juventus was totally on Brca's and Chelsea's level if not better, arsenal, united, inter, and real all had a legitimate shot at the title
>>64113140
pardon, I correct, it's actually a top 2
>>64113139
Did you just get into football last year?
>>64113139
>Rangers ever getting in a CL group again
>Rangers ever going to the knockout again
>Rangers
>>64113136
>fraud
a guy who turned its parents butcher shop into a domestical company
a guy who turned a up coming german football club into one of the most succcesful sports brands
>fraud
reply
>>64113212
no. about 5 t-b-h never really looked back before 08 CL wise
Niggas in here have no idea just how hard and how long i've wished for a Madonnina CL final
I can't help but get tinfoilly suspicious about how Milan meets Inter everytime both get past the RO 16. We've al;ready seen a Madrileno and a Der Klassiker final FFS tbhfam.
>>64113230
So he just went to jail for fun, huh?
>>64113139
The only weird things about it are Lyon over Madrid and Liverpool over Chelsea.
Lyon had a great team in the mid 00s that won the league like 8 straight times while Madrid were just a bunch of old overpaid geezers.
And Benitez's Liverpool were always Mourinho's bogey team in Europe. In Mourinho's 3 CL campaigns during his 1st Chelsea stint he got directly eliminated by Liverpool 2 times, and 1 time he finished behind Liverpool in the group stage which caused him to draw Barcelona and get eliminated by them. 10/10 on keked scale if you ask me
>>64113230
>a guy who accomplished this by committing countless crimes, shitting all over the German people and especially football fans
He's not a fraud. He's a real deal jew. And he couldn't even score a fucking penalty when it mattered. Disgrace of the nation.
>>64113225
>>64112576
In last 3 Years we had atleast 1 Team nobody considered before going straight to Finals like 2013 BVB 2014 Atletico and 2015 Juve
>>64112576
bayern only became relevant in the past 3 years you fucking mong
they are a literal meme team
>>64113191
>arsenal, united, inter, and real all had a legitimate shot at the title
And Borussia, Atletico, Juventus, Chelsea and United had a legitimate shot at winning the CL over the last 4 years of "no parity and Barca/Bayern/Madrid dominance". I don't see a problem here
>>64113314
What makes them a meme team?
>>64113230
>a guy who is best pals with the CEO of adidas who is balls deep in bribery shenanigans around Qatari WC
>a guy who is literally in jail right now because he commited tax fraud using adidas money
>not a fraud
I'm just waiting for his name to be dropped in the FIFA bribery case. If adidas is in, he's too.
BTW, where will Bayern go to train for the back half of the season?
>>64112760
>>64112980
>>64113139
>>64113152
>Milan wins back to back CL in 89 and 90
>Reaches final three consecutive years (93 - 95, BTFOing Barca 4 - 0 in 1994)
>Mid 2000s stacked Milan in the CL three times (minus getting memed by Deportivo La Coruna in 2003-04 CL)
>same for 90s Juventus, historically ranked as one the mightiest sides in all of Europe, next to Madrid and such
Italy, what the fuck happened?
>>64113275
>>64113299
that is unrealated to his finacial crimes
he did gamble at the stock exanchange and "forgot" to tax his profits and went (rightfully) to jail, which were millions
acually i even belive him that he didnt think about taxing them probably
>>64112980
more like
50s - Spain (because nobody else even knew about it and Madrid played literally whos)
60s - Italy
70s - Netherlands and England
80s - England and Italy
90-95 - Italy
95-00 - England
00-05 - Mix
05-12 England
12 - 15 - Spain
This is taking the last 16 into account, not just winners or finalists.
Because meme club of the year (Zenit) is gonna win the CL this year
>>64112912
>any European success until 2010
Getting absolutely mugged off by Milito is considered success?
>>64113371
Money ran out to pay refs
>>64113314
This.
When they reached the finals with Inter and Chelsea nobody took them seriously. It was like the CL had already been decided in the semis with Barcelona.
Who's going to be the meme team of the year this season?
My bet is Atletico. They're sneakily good, no one really talks about them and they won their group and are just 2 points behind Barcelona in the league
>>64113378
Luckily the believes of cattle fucking North-Austrians and their bandwaggoning sleeper cells all over Germany is of no relevance to the truth.
Believe in your Fleischthekenführer all you want, Seppel, you're a cult of criminals.
>>64113420
and then they won against the UNSTOPPABLE FORCE OF their league rivals dortmund who they walked past to win the league.....
and they refballed Man United out of it the year they went on to play Inter
>>64113404
Making the final after 8 seasons without a semi final appearance is a success
>>64113319
uh I can give you dortmund and atletico. barca really won it in the semis last year, and this year who could do it apart from barca or bayern?
Great. 4chan is back up. All the euros still awake?
>>64113555
no, we all went to sleep m8
That will be Wolfsburg spot. Thought it would be lovely if Chelsea were to win the CL and get relegated in the same exact season.
>>64113139
Lyon were pretty much Halal's nightmare back in the day
>>64114123
>>64113139
kek I remember when Real fans would slit their wrists any time they drew Lyon because it was a guaranteed loss
>>64113627
>blacks in charge of geography
>>64112643
They played literally whos in a game that meant nothing to them and Leverkusen still couldn't win. topkek
If only BATE got a goal. Roma don't deserve to go through either. They will get destroyed in the next round.
>>64114753
I agree about Roma but seeing all these memerito fags cry is too good
>>64113378
>called a fraud
>"yeah that's unrelated to his financial crimes"
Meme on my friend.
>>64113371
can someone seriously answer this question?
I think it's because the other Euro countries' economies stayed the same or grew and italy's economy has been regressing, so less money for clubs. Like Juve and Roma aren't even close to the spending of the top English, German and Spanish clubs now
>>64114836
>tfw people stick meme in so many words some become impossible to know what they actually mean
>>64114899
Former Manchester United's "greatest positional striker"
>>64114895
Italy banks won't give outragious loans of 500million+ to their teams where the citizens of the country (+ Europe) have to pay for like Spain does.
>>64114895
No money to pay off refs
Top clubs having to play in the 2nd tier
>>64112576
>implying Halal will reach the semis
ayyyyy lmaooo
>>64115402
But TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>64112654
>cock it up
>haven't lost a group stage game in 3 years
i wonder if barcelona will maintain the form they've had since last year. bayern could win it but their whole squad is incredibly injury prone, they have key players injured almost every single time. if they face this barcelona for a 2nd time with injuries, they will lose again.
>>64113087
2005 Juve was miles better than Chelshit top kek
If /sp/ was around 2006 how would they have reacted to Juve being BTFO and relegated?
>>64112760
In the 2005 - 2010 period it'd be Milan, Chelsea and Liverpool
And Real Madrid would be the "Muh history" loser meme
It's funny how things change in less than 10 years.
>>64118700
I don't think anybody likes Juve. Hipsters maybe. And people who like "Italian" football.
>>64118661
Except that they cheated in the league and never got far in the CL. That Chelsea team was the best EPL winner ever and was reaching the CL semi almost every single year (the one year they didn't they lost to the eventual winner in the 2nd round)
>>64118724
>In the 2005 - 2010 period it'd be Milan, Chelsea and Liverpool
Barcelona won it 2 times and made 2 further semis appearances in that period. not sure how you can not include them
Who's the most dominant club now from 2005-2015? Id say its Barcelona since they reached half of the last 10 finals and 7-8 semi appearances
My take on the lack of parity is most top-class players lack competitive drive. They would rather play with their buddies on the likes of a Bayern or Barca, cruising to an easy league title on a super team, and only have to really try in the Champions League. There's less incentive to play for an English team because you have to scrap for points week in week out.
The money doesn't hurt either.
>>64118860
>Who's the most dominant club now from 2005-2015?
There's a team that won it 4 times during that period while no other team won more than 1. It's not even a question
>>64112576
>implying Real Mad Shit is going to make it
"no."
>>64113414
>>64115054
No. Serie A has always been a shady yet continentally succesful mafia-led operation so that can't be the reason. Maybe it's the departure of the sugar daddies that's wreaked havoc everywhere
>>64112576
So Ronaldo could statpad
>6 straight years with the same six semifinalists
>/sp/ tries to tell me we aren't going through a huge lack of parity
>b-but it's only nostalgia
kek face the truth niggas
>>64120009
*same three
>>64120009
Penaldo and Messi are once in a generation talent.
Remove both Penaldo and Messi we would have parity again.
>>64120051
Let's hope so, this shit is getting boring
>>64120051
Too bad new GOAT will step up in 2 or 3 years and Barcelona continues to dominate.
>>64118860
Barcelona is to 2005-2015 what Liverpool is to 1975-1985, milan to 90's or Madrid to 1998-2003
GOAT teams m8
>>64120009
>>64120051
It's not about Messi and Ronaldo. The problem is that almost every world-class player is in either Barça, Madrid or Buyern
So if we look at semis we have
>2010 - Barça, Bayern, random, random
>2011 - Barça, random, Madrid, random
>2012 - Barça, Bayern, Madrid, random
>2013 - Barça, Bayern, Madrid, random
>2014 - random, Bayern, Madrid, random
>2015 - Barça, Bayern, Madrid, random
4 out of 5 semi finals reached by the three of them. Nah, it's not about two players
>>64120330
that's what I was trying to say since here >>64112906
but I got called a nostalgia faggot because I said that something was better some time ago
>>64112760
The state of abls
>>64120330
From 05 to 09
>Liverpool made 3 out 5 semi finals
>United made 3 out 5 semi finals
>Chelsea made 4 out of 5 semi finals
Really not that much different
>>64118865
Players would rather play in Spain because the pace of the game is slower, it's more technical and skills-oriented and you don't have to run as much. English football largely consists of players running into each other and sprinting about in the rain. It's more fun to watch, but you have fewer opportunities to showcase your skills.
>>64120527
You forgot to mention how muscular/physical everyone is in the BPL. Twinklets barely stand a chance unless they are supremely skilled on the ball.
>>64120584
>Twinklets barely stand a chance unless they are supremely skilled on the ball.
But that's true for every league. What's the point in fielding a weak, 1.70m tall manlet who can't pass or dribble past anyone?
>>64112760
No it woulds
01: Bayern, Valencia, Leeds, Madrid
02: Bayern, Barcelona, Madrid, ManU
03: Real, Juve, Inter, Milan
04: Monaco, Chelsea, Porto, Deportivo
05: Chelsea, Liverpool, Eindhoven, Milan
06: Villareal, Milan, Arsenal, Barcelona
07: Milan, ManU, Chelsea, Liverpool
Its not even close. This shit started with 2009 and Barcelona reaching every semis and 2010 and Bayern reaching the semis every fucking year.
08:
>>64120330
At the same time buyern has the 3rd best player in the world in Ribery/Robben/Muller
>>64113378
>This is what buyern customers actually believe.
You people really are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to football supporters.
>>64118219
Knock-out phase
>>64120607
Barcelona reached semis in 2008, too mate.
>>64120712
That team was a mess though. They just got lucky with the draw, they had to beat Celitc and >Schalke to get to the semis
Remove R. Madrid from that picture, the only team capable of beating a top-form Barcelona is Bayern.
>>64120607
>Leeds
Good thing I don't remember those days.
>>64120682
Not him but waiting for evidence to proof otherwise.
>>64120009
at the moment the CL is in the worst shape it's ever been in frankly, the Europa league is actually more enjoyable to watch even though no one really takes it seriously
>>64120009
>>64120051
>>64120330
I do think the problem is this Missi-Donaldo duality, not only are they ruining la liga but the CL too, when both retire and new stars that are a step below them arrive we will have better parity again.
Also, the CL really needs a strong PL and Serie A to be thrilling, as the competition is just as strong as the domestic leagues nurture it.
>>64120330
Its only six years man. Not a big deal.
>>64121164
I really cant see the current season be any different, though.
>>64120607
Valencia, Deportivo and Villareal man.... Thats impossible now in la liga. The big 3 are way ahead of the rest.
Everyone focuses on what made Barcelona, Madrid and Bayern so good but I think the bigger issue is what happened to all their competition. EPL teams going full retard on the transfer market and the massive decline of Serie A are much more responsible for Barca, Bayern and Real dominating than anything those 3 teams did. If United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Juventus, Milan, Inter etc were able to maintain their level then we'd just have 3 teams that are the best in the world and a bunch of teams that are right behind them. With how easy it is for a small upset to happen we wouldn't be seeing Barca, Bayern and Real in every single CL semi if EPL and Serie A remained at their 00s level
>>64121232
>Thats impossible now in la liga
What the fuck are you talking about? Atletico just won the league and were 30 seconds away from winning the CL, and they look at least as good as Real this season
Bayern are the odd team out in OPs pic. Barcelona and Real Madrid are going nowhere, but Bayetn could easily slip back into irrelevance when Robbery retire and Poop leaves.
>>64121256
Atletico has more or less always been right behind the two league juggernauts, so their recent interruption of the El Clasico oligarchy doesnt say much.
>>64113225
we will climb back up COYG
>>64121279
>>64121256
And Cervantes up there said "the big three", not two.
>meme team of the year
>CHATSHIT at the champions
>>64121279
Before hiring Simeone they were a mid table club for like 15 years and even got relegated once
>>64121292
I thought he meant big 3 on the European scale. Atletico don't really fit with Real and Barca, they're not in the same financial class. What Atletico has done over the past 5 years is definitely doable by Valencia, Sevilla, Villarreal etc. So don't give me that shit that it's not possible to compete with richer clubs because Atletico keeps doing exactly that
>>64120696
>>64112654
>cock it up
>have progressed to the semi finals every year for the past 4 or 5 years and have won it once
the only time they really fucked up was when they lost 4-1 to dortmund and they almost completed the comeback in the 2nd leg
>>64118835
man utd won it once, finalled another time and semid another
>>64121310
Now you remember him.
>>64121388
reminder that from next season the team which finishes 20th in the premiership will receive more money than an english team would for winning the CL. and that after paying out bonuses winning it last year actually meant that barca made a loss from taking part.
>>64113420
What ?
There was not a single person alive that bet on Chelsea to beat Bayern.
It was thought to be completely impossible by every expert that existed.
... and they were somewhat right it was probably one of the most one-sided finals in football history which ended in a miracle.
>>64121450
This is literally a lie. Barcelona got 61m for last season's edition while Juventus got close to 90m and that's not even counting the added match day revenue and potential sponsorship deals from increased club prestige. I seriously doubt "bonuses for winning the CL" cost them more than 60m
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/competitions/General/02/29/45/25/2294525_DOWNLOAD.pdf
>>64121450
Not only television rights but ticket prices make this league the richest. When I was living in London I wanted to go to Arsenal game but then ... cheapest tickets were 30 quid.
Poor imigrant can't watch his fav team play.
>>64121450
even if they did lose prize/tv money from this, the money they must get from branding and all their other sources must be insane.
>>64121520
thats why all the working class people go to lower league/non league games and all the pakistanis and billionaires go to the premier league games
>>64121515
that's what I read. can't find the link. for comparison, madrid paid their players £46m in bonuses for winning two years ago.
barca's wages/bonuses for last season were 70% of their revenue.
>In a period of Hispanic golden generations
>All Hispanic players want to play for Real/Barca
>Therefore Barca and Real do well
>Also German players great at the moment
>Therefore Bayern do well
It's not hard to figure out why. England was at it's strongest for a long while 2004-2010, and during that time English teams did well
>>64121665
>England was at it's strongest for a long while 2004-2010, and during that time English teams did well
The NT stopped being good in 2006, just as the EPL became the best league in the world. We literally failed to qualify for Euro in the same year there was an all English CL final and right in the middle of 3 consecutive years of 3 English CL semi finalists
>>64121692
The NT stopped being good because the FA was fucking retarded. We still had prime Terry, Ferdinand, Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, Beckham (sort of), Rooney, Neville, Carragher, King, Cole
All of whom were key parts of the English teams dominating Europe.
The only English team struggling in Europe, Arsenal, had no core of great English players. Not a coincidence
>>64118724
Between 2005-2010, Man United made 3 semi finals and 2 finals.
>>64121706
The only world class players who were in their prime in 06-10 were Terry, Ferdinand, Gerrard, Lampard, Cole and maybe Rooney.
Beckham was already collecting retirement pension in the MLS, Scholes was on the decline and was barely even starting the majority of United games, Neville blew out his knee in 07 and was never the same, same with King and Carragher was never a world class player.
>>64121450
Why are you taking out the calculator when talking about the CL? There's something money can't buy, prestige, just go ask City.
I just don't understand what you are trying to say here, is it better finishing 20th in the epl than winning in the CL? Not even a spastic would say this, money or not involved.
Finally, getting deep in the competition brings sponsors, branding, advertising, even foreign supporters with $ when games happen, cities change a lot with CL games as it's also an opportunity to make a visit to your neighbours. You are seriously underrating the impact the biggest club competition in the world has.
>>64121791
Tell me where is the prestige in winning the league in which 2 teams takes half the tv money?
>>64121753
Scholes had a second career peak in 2006 and was in fantastic form.
Between 2006-2010, Rooney was definitely world class.
>>64121791
>There's something money can't buy, prestige
barca and RM have been buying it for fucking years m8, what you on about?
>>64121841
Thought we were talking about the CL, in any case I never said the state of the TV deals here was good and never will as long as it continues like this.
We are trying to make it better though, a law has passed where the % for lower ranked teams was going up, it's true that Real and Barça are still getting much more than the rest though.
>>64121968
>memes
ok
>>64121993
>memes
So they don't spend hundreds of millions on players? More than any other team on earth? Money they haven't even fucking got.
>>64121290
will ye fuck
Don't see much difference in prestige between being funded by an oligarch or spanish corruption. I hate United but at least they make their own money.
>>64122009
They do, many teams do it, but money won't guarantee you success, a competent team, manager and club board will, check City and PSG, Inter was for decades the richest club in Serie A and they got little to show off, United is, supposedly according to all the pics I see here, the richest team of England and right now they are the only english team that hasn't make it to Ro16. Messi's transfer was 0 (zero) dollaridoos.
Money won't make you a strong name, or better your coefficient, getting deep in competitions will.
>>64122142
>Money won't make you a strong name, or better your coefficient,
thats exactly what chelsea did though
city are just incredibly incompetent, but sooner or later they'll come good.
>>64122074
>spanish corruption
I see this meme spammed a lot. Is there any actual proof of Real and Barcelona being by the government in an illegal way?
>>64122207
Not anymore. Try sixty years ago
>>64122207
Madrid especially have a very cosy relationship with Bankia.
>>64112576
can wolfsburg be a candidate for meme club of the year
>>64122207
Well I certainly can't prove it in a 4chan post. Remember reading detailed pieces about money movement between Real and the city of Madrid. How Barca actually works I don't know but obviously the transfer of Neymar is an example of conscious deceit.
>>64122142
It doesn't matter that Barca didn't buy Messi, if he wasn't in a team with such economic power he wouldn't stay there.Even Chelsea or City can't afford to pay his wages.
Also no other team in the world can spent so much for one player like Barca and Real do.
When City, Chelsea, PSG, United and Inter start buying the best players for 100mil euros, we will see how the Spanish teams can cope.
>>64122207
There's nothing with Barça, Real on the other hand I think everyone knows those two fishy deals. First they sold their training camps to the community for a lot of dosh, admitedly the training center was in the most expensive part of the city but still.
The other thing is that they had a 100kk€ loan from a big bank from here to buy CR, the bank argued that they gave loans to Real because they know they can pay them back + interests.... but still
>>64122593
>When City, Chelsea, PSG, United and Inter start buying the best players for 100mil euros, we will see how the Spanish teams can cope.
City, United and PSG have starting XIs that are more expensive than Barcelona's (even if we assume the most expensive version of the Neymar deal at 120m)
>>64122680
You certainly mean through transfers cause messi is worth these 3 teams combined.
Still as we saw with Tottenham a 100mil player is actually worth more to the team than 15 players worth 10mil.
Is Zenet going to be the meme club of the year?
>>64121059
Ronaldo has been shit this whole year, yet Madrid still got to semi finals and this year it seems they'll do it too, unless they face Barça or Buyern before that.
Hell, even in La Décima Ronaldo was shit. He just suddenly disappears. If Madrid is always in semi finals is because all the players they have.
And look at Barça. Messi was injured untill two weeks ago and they still raped every team they faced.
>>64121279
>right behind the two
Hell no. It's all since Simeone. Barça and Madrid used to finish with 20+ points than the third one, and that third one wouldn't even be Atlético.
I don't think you realize the magnitude of Simeone's work, and I'm not saying that just because he's argie and "Muh country"
one of the main reasons why i barely watch the CL anymore
the competition needs the English and Italian clubs to become strong again
maybe City can provide some actual competition this year
>>64113139
>Artmedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Petr%C5%BEalka_akad%C3%A9mia
Holy shit what a drop, from Champions League to fifth tier and a new, shitty 1500 capacity stadium within ten years
>>64122207
The teams are so popular that if a bank tries to claim back the money it lent them, and if that causes the club to go bankrupt (which it would if they demanded it all back at once), all the fans would boycott that bank and the bank would go out of business too. It's not worth it to the banks.
daily reminder that just 10 years ago PSV made the semi-finals and only lost to AC Milan, because of the away goal rule.
>JUST 10 YEARS AGO
>>64124014
Daily reminder that just 2 days ago PSV keked van Laal and Yanited turning them into the biggest laughing stocks in Europe.
Cheer up.
>>64124014
Cocu
Park
Farfan
Van Bommel
Alex
Gud players
>>64124244
>Van Bummer
>>64124014
>JUST 10 YEARS AGO
JUST
>>64124014
PSV is in the CL knock out stage, Milan isn't
>>64112576
Much better than it was a few years ago lad, in that 2009-2012 period it looked like no team other than Barcelona would win it every year, their odds to win it every time were ridiculous and it was a miracle they only won it 2 of 4. At least now they have Bayern to contend with which while not great is better.
>>64126993
This, basically the generation of Spanish players 2006-2012, most of which were distributed between Barca and Madrid, was way too good compared to everything else.
Something similar could be said of the germans right now but they don't seem to like winning that much. I thought after the 12-13 final that a new era of Nazi overlords was upon us but then Dortmund collapsed and no other german has stepped up to Bayern's level.
>tfw Bayern, and not any EPLEL club, is considered to be among the GOAT THREE
>>64127319
not only that, they're most financially stable as well
>>64113139
>Lyon
kek
>>64113139
>>64127523
>J U N I N H O era Lyon
I miss being a 12 year old tbhfam.
Who cares about > muh parity anyway?
The games between the Big 3 are GOAT each year, they are truly the highest, most developed form of football ever in history, and still fun as fuck to watch
They are also pretty varied
e.g Bayern raping Barca 7-0 in 2013, then Messi totally keking Pep and Bayern in 2015
>>64127319
That's not really surprising when your entire league exists just to prop up one team
>>64120103
do you know what GOAT means?
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