Who is the greatest Goalkeeper of all time, and why?
For me it is Gigi Buffon.
He has just been so good, for so long, he won a world cup, he's an amazing shot stopper, as well as my inspiration to become a goal keeper.
lot of goalkeepers have been very good/had great records, but I think I agree with you about Buffon being the best
joe hart
If your answer isn't Lev Yashin you don't know shit about soccer.
Ter Stegen
>>64063605
Buffon
>>64063666
nice trips Satan
anyway at Yashin's time goalkeepers were fucking terrible, the fact he stood out doesn't really mean much
Buffon is the only correct answer
>>64063666
>Soccer
but yeah nah Buffon is the best.
>>64063666
>Lev Yashin
I hate these hipster answers, just like Pélé. You can't compare today's football with those ancient times.
Plus, you're probably some 20-something faggot who didn't even live through their time.
>>64063643
Why do you think that? He's been terrible at world cups, very overrated imo.
Vardy
1. Nóia
2. Buffon
3. Schmeichel
Buffon is the coolest though.
>>64063666
>soccer
american on holiday in germany i presume?
>>64064011
What does this chart mean?
It's that Russian guy
>>64063956
Yeah nah back to the Balkans, cunt.
>>64064011
>Yuros using commas and periods completely backwards
>>64064039
http://spielverlagerung.com/2015/01/09/in-depth-player-analysis-manuel-neuer/
Some meme-metric comparing how many goals does a team suffer when a GK is playing to how many goals it suffers when he isn't.
Which fails to account for how good the team's reserve goalkeeper is. Still pretty interesting.
>>64063605
Taffarel
What about Rogerio Ceni? He just retired but this dude was an absolute legend
>>64064107
eh.
He was a 7.5 in his prime, but that was over a decade ago. Not even top 5 brazilian keepers in the past 30 years (Marcos, Taffarel, Carlos Germano, Júlio César, Diego Alves, Hélton, Dida, all better than him at actually goalkeeping instead of taking meme-FKs).
He's been total shit for like 5 years.
Casillas
1 world cup
2 eurocups
3 UCL
5 ligas
2 copas del rey
>>64064230
Casillas has always been a system babby, playing in teams with unlimited money/talent and even then he managed to be the weak link at times.
Stat padding != skill
Buffon was actually the strongest/top3 player in each of the teams he's played in and a most definitely a difference maker.
>>64064288
>at times.
At any time after 2010.
Fuck's sake, Allah Merdrid would've won last season's La Liga and keked Barça's treble if Topor hadn't personally costed them 12-15pts.
Buffon is a great keeper but he has always been in the shadow of Iker.
Ucl 2000--iker
Ucl 02--Iker
wc 06-->gigi
Euro 08 -->iker
Wc 2010-->iker
euro 12-->iker
Ucl 14-->iker
>>64064331
reflexbabby with horrible technique desu
as soon as he got old and lost those reflexes, he was EXPOSED precisely due too his poor technique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFoBsRuKyWQ
Zubi/Cañizares were better desu, and Valdéz almost as good
>hipster opinion
Yashin
>babby opinion
Neuer
>pleb opinion
Kahn/Casillas
>normie opinion
Buffon
>patrician opinion
Schmeichel
>>64064347
>brazil, nation of goalkeepers imparting lessons
kek
He s finished now but he is the best in the history
ps.zubi cañizares >iker
you are crazy my nigga
>>64064331
Buffon could've probably moved to Barca and keked iker 24/7 for the next 10 years but decided to stick with his team when it got relegated, took pay cuts and helped them rebuilding all the way to the CL final.
Again, stat padding != skill.
>>64064391
>spain talking shit about anyone else's goalkeepers
lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8TNVUSWodE
#MourinhoWasRight
the scorpion-kick guy
>>64064391
>spain, nation of literally no one until 2008
Taffarel, Rogerio Ceni, Julio Cesar, Dida shit all over your goalies desu
>>64064418
Actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZr1XIBq1cw
Buffon never committed this many blatant errors.
>>64064402
>implying that valdes is bettert than casillas
>>64064014
it's Juergen
>>64064427
What does this have to do with anything, Ramon?
You guys are making it sound like Casillas should be considered GOAT solely because he won more titles and I''ve been merely reminding you that Buffon could've moved to literally ANY big team in Europe when Juve sunk because of the fixing scandal and won just as many cups as Iker.
Besides, it's a retarded argument no matter how you look at it.
>>64064422
>British ignorance
no ty
>>64064466
not to mention, Kahn, Zoff and Schmeichel were better GK's than Casillas by a long shot.
>>64064402
Iker shits over Buffon any day of the week? Italy and Juve have historically been defensive sides while RM have had attacking minded players in their back four, i.e. Ramos who's half a WB playing CB and Marcelo who thinks he's a winger
If anyone was stat padding it was Buffon
Schmeichel
>>64064486
>dat flag
>football
lol fuck off you kangaroo-screwing redneck
Gordon Banks desu lad
>>64063605
>best goalkeeper in history without one of these
/sp/ humour
>>64064511
neither Messi nor Penaldo have a World Cup either.
Your point again, Nestor?
>>64064518
ronaldo -messi is another debate,va-lentino
>>64064534
No, Messi doesn't have a world cup, but Pirlo does. Does that mean Pirlo is better than Messi?
Don't get me wrong Pirlo is world class, but simply because he has a world cup does not make him a better player than somebody else.
>>64064331
>that hug after a 4-0
>>64063605
I'd vote Buffon as well because national team success plays such a big part in how a player is viewed, otherwise I'd pick Petr Cech.
>>64064518
Spain wouldn't have won their WC without Casillas
Italy didn't need Buffon
>>64064610
>Italy didn't need Buffon
NIGGA YOU WHAT
2006 Buffon was more important than Cannavaro. Arguably the greatest GK WC performance of all time.
>>64064610
>Italy didn't need Buffon
>>64064610
>Italy didn't need Buffon
australia pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRKA_ldZV-U
>>64064610
lmao
>>64064374
>fact, not an opinion
pic related
i always thought buffon was a fucking amazing keeper.
then i started watching Serie A. any mistakes he made were practically forgotten by the media before the final whistle of the game. also found that most people who were sucking his dick were just repeating what they heard from others or were basing it on a couple of matches they've seen him in.
its not that he was bad. he was still fucking great. but the way the media whitewashed and/or quickly forgot his lesser performance and mistakes made me question peoples consensus on him. it became all the more evident how peoples opinions are affected by the media when people started chewing on casillas in his final years at madrid.
hes definitely in highest tier of keepers in history though.
>>64064645
REEEEEEEEEE
>>64064766
Buffon underperformed as hell in the late 00s and early 10s.
He only regained his form a couple years ago and he's still not what he was from 99 until Calciopoli.
But he's still GOAT regardless.
>>64064610
It's actually the opposite, nigga
>>64064766
Buffon in 2006 is the best GK of all time though
Somebody earlier mentioned Lev Yashin, it's gotta be him.
What a fucking legend lads
>>64064645
I like how 95% of those shots are directly at him. Who taught australia how to shoot?
>>64064610
it's like you didn't watch the 06 world cup. owait you probably went off sport after we btfo you the previous summer at the cricket you filthy abo
___is the best goalkeeper ever, according to Google:
Manuel Neuer 247k results
Joe Hart 245k
David de Gea 238k
Iker Casillas 232k
Petr Cech 209k
Gianluigi Buffon 111k
David Seaman 68k
Edwin van der Sar 63.5k
Oliver Kahn 56.7k
Wojciech Szczęsny 54.8k
Peter Schmeichel 51.9k
Jose Pinto 46k
Jorge Campos 24.2k
Lev Yashin 19.6k
Rene Higuita 17.9k
Rogerio Ceni 17.7k
Fabien Barthez 17k
Dino Zoff 13.6k
Andoni Zubizarreta 11.7k
Sepp Maier 10.3k
Jose Luis Chilavert 6.56k
Claudio Taffarel 6.4k
>>64064912
>de gea
>hart
Stopped reading
>>64064919
let's face it, you stopped reading much earlier
>>64064930
what did you mean by this?
>>64064930
well they're the 2nd and 3rd names, he probably wasn't too invested in your post yet tbqh
>>64063666
>t. person who definitely saw lots of his games 100%
>>64064919
if you combined the talent of every american goalkeeper in history it would still be only as much talent as Hart has in his flaccid cock
>>64065017
Howard in the WC: Single-handedly carries his awful team to the Round of 16 while breaking the record for most saves in a single game and in a WC.
Hart in the WC: you have 1(one) point
Also Keller > any english GK in the 90s, up to and including >Semen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8A9VcF7s-c
>>64065048
Brasil my greatest ally
>>64064810
pretty debatable. his world cup was great, but first half of his year is marred by the scandal and the second half he spent in serie b conceding once every other game or so against garbage opponents.
But buffon is a greasy italian mobster.
Iker didn't have an able deputy
Robben would easily take the ball past Valdes or Reina in a 1v1 situation
Buffon's best games came before the final
>>64065048
Please he had one good game, meanwhile he's extremely average in the prem and Hart is goating it up winning titles left, right and centre and single handedly winning a duel against Messi in the CL
>>64065094
>joe fart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICre_Ys8-YM
"it's not on" lad
What about Jan "the man who fired Alf Ramsay" Tomaszewski?https://youtu.be/Vi9vZCo215w
>>64063963
>You can't compare today's football with those ancient times.
yea, humans were biologically diferent then. they surely could not adapt to today's game.
if you are to bash the vintage football choices, do it simply because the people choosing them nowadays didn't watch them. doing it because 'hurr, football was too different then' is dumb and assumes that these great players, who often had impressive technique (you can't take that off them) and natural fitness, could not adapt to higher pace and pressing.
but like in music, people's perception is highly influenced by novelty, and looking back, most of that is washed out, thus making antique football look bad. but you have to be specially stupid and entitled to think people were impressed by their quality for no reason.
football's had sensitive changes, but not so many changes. it looks better now, but that's due to speed and coordination, only.
bad players could get used to that.
talented and intelligent players would have no hard time playing today.
be it pelé or yashin.
>>64065123
Goalkeeper is the most error prone position in football, you could put together one of these videos for every keeper on earth, including the current best kepper Neuer, there would probably be one for Howard if he was at all relevant.
