Who is the best player in world football right now? Excluding Ronaldo or Messi.
For me it has to be Neymar.
>dont fucking say Nicklas Bendtner
>>64063344
>Excluding Ronaldo
Neymar's better than Ronaldo right now anyway.
>Le empty step overs man
>>64063355
I agree.
>>64063355
He needs to work on his penalty conversion rate and tap in game. His current numbers are far too low to compare to one as great as cr7. Also he doesn't do enough stepovers and skills.
>>64063355
>right now
No hes better in general. In 2 months or 2 years Neymar will be better
>>64063377
>doesn't do enough skills
>has 5 star skills on fifa
You right there mate?
>>64063387
I remember all the real madrid fans calling him overrated 2 years ago lmao
If we exclude Messi and Penaldo. it's probably Neymar or Suarez.
>>64063397
All of /sp/ called him overrated. It's a joke that they only take him seriously once his 'stats' look as good as ronaldo. His general play was always better.
perparim hetemaj
>>64063409
People didn't look at his dribbles completed, chances created, pass accuracy.
It's so cringeworthy when people base a footballers ability on their goals/assists total.
hazard
bale
kane
sterling
aguero
de broona
>>64063419
Well most people don't sit down and watch the games they shitpost about sadly. They just look at facebook memes or highlights.
I think neymar is already better than ronaldo.
Suarez is also better
>Scoring tap ins in an uncompetitive league makes you one of the world's top players
What has my beautiful game become? Also noticed that it's cretins who call football "soccer" to be the ones who makes these empty headed threads
>>64063423
I know this is a shitpost but kane and sterling? Really? You britbongs make me laugh every time.
>>64063416
You took mine serious? haha
>>64063397
neymar is quite overrated though, still better than ronaldo and if it wasn't for messi he'd be the best player in the world, and in a few years he probably will be.
but to be fair the world has been lacking players the likes of diego, ronaldinho, real ronaldo and such for a long time now, excluding messi ofcourse which is at that level for sure and if he performs in a fucking world cup and wins it once and for all he'll probably be the best ever, so far he's trailing behind but within the top notch tier of all time.
cristiano ronaldo, had he not been the way he is personality-wise stat padding for statistic recording history glory, getting angry when a teammate scores instead of him and whatnot, would be at that level too, like when he played at manchester united.
it's a shame really.
>>64063435
Thats what ronaldo did for united and he won the balon dor. Neymar can actually beat players though.
>>64063435
If tap-ins are so hard to score, why doesn't everyone score them. Ronaldo just has a footballing brain. Sure he sits in the 12 yard box waiting for the ball, but if he scores 40 goals a season, maybe everyone should do that.
>>64063439
EA's garbage doesn't register as a video game to me. Took me awhile to realize.
>>64063435
Dives and flops around like a poncy cunt too. No wonder spics love him, that's all they do.
>>64063377
>and tap in game
Funny thing is apparently Ronaldo has had an awful shot conversion rate this season.
>Ronaldo
when will this meme end?
Which were the 5 best transfers over the Euro summer?
>>64063489
where is messi?
1. Messi
2. Suarez
3. Neymar
4. Donaldo
>>64063505
Only has 4 league goals this season.
>>64063409
>implying he isn't stil overrated like any boy wonder
pretty good player though
>>64063344
>Excluding Ronaldo
why would anyone count him?
>>64063446
>ronaldo scored tap ins at utd
you obviously didn't watch him when he was at utd if you actually believe this
>>64063525
On his day he is an amazing player. You can't take that away from him. Yes he scores a lot of pens, but still a very skillful player.
>>64063566
he was when he played in england, as I stated here >>64063442
I was quite a cr7 fan back then, I loved him, and I thought he was going to be on the top10 all time players but this past 5/6 years he's been literally shit.
penalties being a big part of why he's shit nowadays.
you can't take that away.
>>64063344
>Neymar
TOP KEK
pls explain the hate for penalty taking, whats he meant to do? not take them?
Anglos actually think "Ronaldo" in "Cristiano Ronaldo" is a surname, right?
>>64063355
*tips fedora*
Suarez is better than Neymar
>>64063597
yeah m8, they call david luiz "luiz" the same way.
or roberto carlos "carlos" and such.
you get the gist.
anglos are fucking retarded when it comes to taking in other culture's stuff like words and names.
>>64063608
Also they call Luis Enrique just "Enrique", kek.
>>64063435
He scored 10 goals in the UCL. Nobody apart from Messi or Ronaldo has managed that past 5 years.
>muh supporting act
Doesn't matter. Look up his goals, he beat Neuer 1v1, he blooted some great solo goals and had several tapins without taking single penalty last season. His the real deal. Go praise your Harry Kane you muslim dirt eating homonerd.
>>64063586
??? You don't think he's one of the best players in the world?
For me it's Alaba. Great defensive positioning, great reaction time, very efficient offensively wether he crosses or shoots the ball.
I don't know why people only rate forwards. If you consider the whole game of football, LB and RB are the most impressive of all players.
>>64063608
argies are retarded when it comes to taking islands near their coast off a country with an army and navy 6000 miles away
>>64063613
they call David Silva "David Silver"
and they write "barça" as "barca" with the excuse of "we don't have a cedilla"
they have a fucking "s" though, just why
>>64063624
This, Alaba can also play in the central midfield and as a CB
>>64063344
Right now? Jamie Vardy.
He's carrying a shit team to the title in one of the toughest leagues in world football.
>>64063634
no we're not, we literally took them with extreme ease, our government at the time was a very negligent dictatorship that didn't really care about keeping the islands or taking them in the first place, that's why they sent kids to die in that war and couldn't hold it.
>>64063644
why is he called "Chat Vardy"? I haven't been keeping up with PL for 2 years now
>>64063621
>Nobody apart from Messi or Ronaldo has managed that past 5 years.
>>64063649
took them and held them only as long as it took the antiquated british navy to turn up and kick them off
VARDY
A
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D
Y
>>64063653
Someone was giving him some grief over social media I believe and in response he said something along the lines of 'Chat shit, get banged' which is British slang for 'If you talk shit about someone expect to get punched/beaten up'
>>64063751
thanks britbro
>>64063719
your antiquated navy kicked 18 year olds that never held a gun in their lives prior to this incident off of some islands.
how can you be proud of this?
>>64063344
Neuer or Alaba
>>64063653
fuck off newfag. Chat shit get banged
>>64063763
>dindu nuffin
>>64063621
Mario Gomez scored 12 in the 11/12 season
>>64063796
would you take responsibility for the nazis?
>>64063763
Not proud since I had nothing to do with it, I just think it's fucking hilarious your joke country couldn't hold the islands against a shitty old navy and airforce from 6000 miles away, your shitty culture is incapable of forming a successful functioning modern state of any kind whatsoever.
You think it's funny we don't understand latin american naming convensions? I think it's funny you can't drink clean water out of a fucking tap. Get your fucking shit together.
>>64063763
Reminder our boys literally deployed to the falklands on cruise ships
>>64063858
>You think it's funny we don't understand latin american naming convensions? I think it's funny you can't drink clean water out of a fucking tap. Get your fucking shit together.
I haven't seen anything get destroyed this badly since the sinking of the Belgrano.
>>64063832
my country does
>>64063832
Germany denounce the Nazis and any claims they made.
Argentina worships the occupiers and continues to claim ownership of the islands.
>>64063877
Imagine the piss ups they had on the way to the falklands? Literally the goat lads holiday
>>64063489
>Tfw Bas Dost, Ruben Castro, Nolito, Ighalo, Lucas Perez, Aduriz, Muto, Batshuayi, Javi Guerra, Moukandjo, Kalinic and Agirretxe are literal Whos
Nerman deserves the balloon door considering he filled in for Messi during messi's injury. And Despite the injury, messi has done more than ronaldo.
>>64063624
>>64063641
Is Alaba a complete defender or is it too early
>>64063984
Maybe to plebs. I don't know all those names, but I know most.
Muto to Mainz is an underrated transfer desu.
>>64063344
De Bruyne.
>>64064012
Suarez has been more important to barca tb.h familia
>>64063624
I agree that Alaba is world class, but generally LB and RB don't see much competition and most of time are the weak point of a team. Look at Marcelo who is widely considered to be one of the and he is horrible at defending. Also Alves who has been one of the best RB the last 5-10 years is known for his attacking skills, not defensive.
Nat Borchers
>>64063597
>>64063608
>implying anyone should care enough to know the specifics about your poverty language
>>64063624
Nah, LB and RB are the easiest positions to play. You have the least expected of you basically. You aren't the last line of defence like the CBs, GK and won't always be blamed if you stayed up to attack when the other team breaks and scores, you aren't expected to score or assist all the time like attacking players nor are you expected to be a good playmaker.
>>64063598
>it's 2015
>almost fucking 2016
>and he thinks that penaldo is better than nerman
>>64063635
because in english it's obvious barcelona has a soft c, you don't need an accent to tell us
Messi, and it will be until he either gets a serious injury that hinders his style of play like what happened to R9, or when he gets too old.
Suarez is no.2 right now though for me
>>64063858
what?
those are all opinions, which by the way are wrong, my country, wether you like it or not, is pretty much developed, stop getting so angry over the internet because someone points out your stupidity.
>>64063954
>the first country the nazis invaded was germany
sure you do
>>64063981
>Germany denounce the Nazis and any claims they made.
we also do that, the de facto government literally faced the law in their trials for crimes against humanity.
the claim over the islands was there long before them and we will still want them back, it was always peaceful, they just decided to invade for no particular reason, they were just fucking around, all the while literally massacring their own people.
you should learn more before you do such retarded statements.
>>64064111
soft c only works before "e" and "i", not "a", "o" or "u"
the only exception is facade which is taken from french and it was adapted wrongly the same way barça is.
>>64064135
>we're stupid because we don't understand the naming conventions from every culture on the planet
What are the standard naming convensions in Burundi bruv?
>>64064135
>pretty much developed
So it isn't developed then? Thanks for confirming
>>64064166
But barca is just a shortening of barcelona, so its clear how to pronounce it
Alaba is a jack-of-all-trades, master of none.
I'd sooner take Alba or even Marcelel.
>rating Argies and treacherous muh malvinas sympathising South Americans
Abs disg
1. Ronaldo
2. Lewandowski
3. Muller
4. Sanchez
Non Chilean and Guyanese south americans are sneaky and degenerate and only achieve things in football because the corrupt referees allow them to cheat their way to the 'top'. These refs are enabled by FIFA and UEFA, (who are proven to be corrupt so don't even try to deny it) who have an anti British, pro malvinas agenda.
>>64063624
>If you consider the whole game of football, LB and RB are the most impressive of all players
"No"
>>64064206
>Alaba is a jack-of-all-trades, master of none.
>I'd sooner take Alaba
>>64064168
I have no fucking clue, but there aren't literally hundreds of extremely famous players from burundi anyway, so it's not that relevant, you do have a lot of brazilian players, if it was just one I'd understand the confusion, but it's well known that they use either nicknames or just their names and not their surnames.
>>64064185
no, barce would be a shortening of barcelona, barça is a nickname, and the fact that it is or not clear how to pronounce it is not what we're discussing.
the proper writing is.
if I was to write "internashonal" instead of "international" you'd know how to pronounce it but it doesn't make it right.
Clearly it's Mahrez. I'd like to see these meme players like Messi, Neymar etc. take a team like Leicester City to the top of the league while making a former non-league striker look world class in the process.
>>64064235
You need glasses, friend.
Who will win the golden boot this year? Messi and Ronaldo aren't overwhelmingly the best stat padders this season, so someone like Obama could even win it. Even Vardy would have a chance if Leicester played European football.
>>64064283
Missi's 3-month injury already completely fucked up his stat-padding his year, he'll win this Balloon Door on GOATness alone.
Nerman is just as overrated as Rolando.
>>64064295
>he'll win this Balloon Door on GOATness alone.
that and a treble
>>64064307
The same can be said for Muller desu.
>>64064283
Still wouldn't rule out Ronaldo. He's bound to get a few more 4/5 goal games against the cannon fodder.
Ozil. Is form is unreal right now its just ABAs who would think otherwise.
>>64064295
The Balloon Door should be renamed the Messi vs. Ronaldo award, because it basically goes to whichever one had the better year, regardless of other GOAT players like Suarez, Neuer etc.
>>64064338
>ABAs
lel
why would anyone even BE an ABA?
you need to win titles to have ABs
>>64064241
You are the one who wanted it to be written with an s
>>64064349
Balloon Door is literally a popularity contest anyway. Try and look at Lewandowski's votes and tell me if you still take this """""award""""" seriously.
>>64064371
Agreed, the old FIFA WPOTY award was literally more respectable; At least NT coaches couldn't vote for players they coach.
The current award is borderline nepotism.
>>64063858
Modric or Ozil for me.
Modric is insane, the guy very rarely makes mistakes. When he's gone you really feel it as the team doesn't perform nearly as well.
Ozil has always been one of the better attacking mids. He has been carrying Arsenal for a while now feeding the strikers great chances. Too bad they can't finish for shit.
>>64064357
because you don't have a ç, if you don't have a ç then it shoud be written with an s, it's a fact, I didn't make that up, it's not a caprice.
we don't have a "ç" and we have to write it like picrelated
CLINT DEMPSEY
>>64064371
It should be voted on by a small group of people, about 10 or so, who's job it is to watch all the top leagues and cup competitions for the whole year.
Because the current voting system is a farce. It's clear just looking at the results that players just vote for their m8s, and some clearly don't pay attention to football outside of their own team and just pick who's popular or whoever has the highest numbers. All those 1st place votes for Ronaldo prove this, because i can't see how anyone who watched him for all of 2015 could put him in there.
>Iniesta never won the WPOTY
>Michael Owen did
>>64064448
Owen won the Balloon Door, which is enough to say how much of a joke it is, but not WPOTY.
>>64064448
Laudrup and Henry never winning is a bigger travesty
Is Hazard playing bad this year because his butt got too big? I was watching him Saturday and he is literally unable to make quick turns due to his wide hips and overall looks slow and un-agile.
>>64064463
I can understand Laudrup. For all his greatness, he never had a specific year in which he was outstanding, Cruyff even famously said he never gives his 100%.
>>64064241
>barce would be a shortening of barcelona
>"Barce"
Top kek, I must remember to use this in the future.
>>64064481
what's funny about that?
>>64064460
Oops you're right. I just assumed that WPOTY was what the Ballon d'Or used to be called
>>64063452
if everyone had a team supporting them like C.Ronaldo has, everybody would score those tap-ins
>>64064241
>I have no fucking clue,
lol you fucking thick cunt how can you not know that Umbogo is pronounced with a particular emphasis on the 'm' regardless of whether or not the accent is present?
>>64064283
it should be Suarez and I HATE the cunt, can;t argue with his ability though
>>64064702
see the shit we put up with?
>>64064702
we weren't discussing pronounciation.
you think "luiz" and "carlos" are surnames.
>>64065018
it was a trick question m8 Umbogo is a given name not a family name hahahahahaha you fucking thick twat
>>64065018
>we weren't discussing pronounciation
>>64063635
>>64065064
it's not the pronounciation that I was pointing out in that post.
it's one thing to pronounce things from another language the "wrong" way, it's ok, because you don't have to know that language, but actually believing that his surname is the english word for an element of the periodic table is fucking retarded.
I've actually seen british posters on /sp/ WRITING "david silver"
>>64063621
Zlatan scored 10
>>64065112
How do you know what they do and don't believe? Acting all high and mighty and superior over something as petty as names and pronunciation makes you look like an utter retard when your country is an absolute shithole with the economy in the fucking gutter.
>>64065157
the fact that you think that my country is a shithole is what makes me superior to you since you're an ignorant fuck 2bh
>>64065183
one of my m8s lives there with his wife and he can't fucking wait to come home because he knows what it's like to live in a first world country, I don't blame you for thinking it's great because you don't know any better
>>64063344
>right now?
Nerman, and I'm counting Ronaldo and Messi too.
>>64065224
I've literally been to england, it was alright, not that much of a difference 2bh
>>64065310
>not that much of a difference
There's literally thousands of differences and most of them favourable differences for Britain. Probably the only thing argentina has over britain is better weather which is, not coincidentally I might add, nothing to do with it's people whatsoever, if it was you'd have some of the worst weather on earth.
>tfw it only took so much for argentineans to engage defensive mode and start laying bait calling neymar overrated because him and suarez managed to make messi's absence unnoticed, with reymar being the protagonist this entire time
yes, he's young, hugely talented and brazilian
just give him 1~2 years and he'll tower over messi before he starts to decline.
>>64065438
I like Nerman but Suarez is better bruv
>>64065438
But Suarez is better than Neymar
>>64063858
>I think it's funny you can't drink clean water out of a fucking tap. Get your fucking shit together.
all I see is wrong opinions.
if you are inclined to respond my post with cheap 'i am different opinions', don't bother.
neymar is the second best player in the world. only messi is superior.
>>64065336
you're too angry m8
pls relax
we are better than you deal with it
>>64065438
I'm that "argentinean that engaged defensive mode" and called neymar overrated, and yet your opinion is literally the same as mine.
>>64065513
>>64065538
m8 its over you got btfo
>>64065538
I didn't call neymar overrated. I don't think he is. I didn't imply he is.
How can the two things be the same?
Dumb argentinean, can't even logic.
>>64065438
>just give him 1~2 years and he'll tower over messi before he starts to decline.
messi is going to be 30 by then, how isn't he going to start to decline?
>>64063355
This.
>>64065574
let me brake it down for you:
me:
>Neymar is still better than ronaldo and if it wasn't for messi he'd be the best player in the world
(you):
>yes, he's young, hugely talented and brazilian
me:
>and in a few years he probably will be (the best player in the world)
(you);
>just give him 1~2 years and he'll tower over messi
literally the same.
btw as of today he is actually overrated, which doesn't mean he's bad, you know.
>>64065607
a professional player only declines about age ~33.
that's the age at which great european players tend to retire still 'looking good'.
30 is the peak of mind and body of a professional player.
If messi don't overdo the soda he'll prolly be alright then.
>>64065635
Internet warrior, you lost, get out.
You're coming from a frame you say he's overrated.
I'm coming from a frame I say he's not overrated and that such claim is fruit of nationalist defense.
Our opinions aren't identical, neither symmetrical.
Stop being vicious over internet debates and fuck off already.
>>64065711
Physical peak is 28 on average, when testosterone production starts to decline.
>>64065751
ok, endocrinologist friend
>>64065784
source is Anabolics by William Llewellyn.
>>64063363
>England's brave Kevin Bigcross has more World Cups than Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Suárez and Robben put together
>talking about 3rd best player
>mfw not robben
>>64063355
>Neymar's better than Ronaldo right now anyway.
So are 30 other players
>>64066381
Nah, Ronaldo is easily top 10
>>64066356
>le always injured man
>3rd best player
It takes time for a misunderstood, creative mind to truly create a masterpiece. The pressures he faces to pay rent, put food on the table, while keeping his girlfriend happy in their small studio apartment is incredible. The criticism from his family to give up his dream and get a real job like his pal Laurent.
That's why I get the feeling that we truly misunderstand the greatness of Giroud.
He's not a ruthless goalscorer.
He's not a speedy trickster.
He's not a footballing genius.
He's a creator.
He's a friend.
He's a wingers' wingman.
He's a truly beautiful being.
He's a true artist in poverty.
Every match is his canvas.
His delicate flicks and deft touches could be the finishing touch of the latest masterpiece.
His body, flawlessly chiseled thanks to years of hard work, are his greatest tools.
He protects his fellow artists from local gangs.
He's been beaten but never broken.
He's been cheated but never hopeless.
He believes in his art.
He will create the next great masterpiece.
>>64063344
BENDTNER
ALL WE NEED IS
NICHOLAS BENDTNER
