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Upcoming MMA events:
December 10 - UFC FN: VanZant vs Namajunas
December 11 - TUF 22 Finale: Mendes vs Edgar
December 12 - UFC 194: Chris "The Chris" Weidman retains his belt
December 19 - UFC on Fox 17: RDA vs Cerrone II
January 2nd - UFC 195: Lawler vs Condit
First for the potatoes getting exposed
>>64060356
1st for Queen of Heem
>>64060387
Look into my eyes little man
DEY DON'T ____ LOIK I ____
>>64047359
>>64047427
>>64047552
>first time I heard of it
>Look it up
>MMA Drama
>Frank Grillo
>looks bretty gud
Is it really shit guys?
>>64047808
Gym Bullies are the absolute worst.
>>64050441
Nope thats me.
>>64056926
>Natural meat
>disgusting
go eat some more hamburgers fat ass
>>64058069
This triggers me so much. I wish wrestlers just focused on jiu jitsu more. Not even subs just to advance and hold better positions.
Guys this is happening in my town and everyone is like hell yeah I'm gonna go.... I'm just like who gives a shit? he's shit lol.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/74785524/ufc-star-james-te-huna-to-visit-invercargill
HAVE I BEEN WRONG YEH
HAVE I BEEN WRONG YEH
>>64060356
>being the OP
>not posting the embeddeds
just heem yourself lad
EP 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL33me6jGO4
EP 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yvvNTPBaKU
EP 3 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJwY_MnRyk
EP 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY2jIlzRUfE
first REAL post for /kissedbyarose/
Lads I literally just woke up thinking it was December 12
Was all hyped and shit then reality hit me, pretty gutted desu
>Mfw in a week UFC 194 will already be over
Time to get hype for UFC 200 afterwards I guess...We might never see a card this stacked again ever.
>>64060473
im going to bed right now im hype to wake up and be closer to dec 12thst
>>64060501
>UFC 200: McGregor vs St.Pierre
>>64060469
this is exactly why I'm glad she got her shit literally kicked in
>>64060555
>trips speak truth
Guys Sara McMann is really cute.
>>64060555
UFC 200: Jones vs McGregor
>>64060501
>being sad before it even happens
Heem yourself my kek
>>64060589
>here it comes
>>64060473
why would we skip over cards. by friday shit will be going so fast.. we have last tuf episode, FP car, finale, 194. that' alot of drama, one good heem will make time fly as you rant on. Imagine the trash talk at the tuf finale between tam and connor. imagine the main/comain winner's interview f they wint he fightpass card, should be hillarious either way
You could find and watch 1 fight for every fighter fighting on these 3 cards, should eat up at least 1 whole day
>>64060501
After this weekend we'll get hype for RDA vs Cerrone 2. That's a good fight in and of itself, plus the card has JDS vs Overeem on it. After that we've got a few weeks break but then Blood King Lawler vs Condit is on in early January, then Dillashaw vs Cruz after that. We've got plenty to look forward to m8
>>64060589
>>64060590
Do they have child sized caskets for men that small?
/i hope a curent champ or a champ from this month will fight again before july, could be a massive dry spell if they all are awaiting 200.
>>64060501
just a few more days until McGoat loses and Ireland heems himself
its gonna be great
>>64060623
Corner men for women fighters are so touchy and pervy. It must be a dream job for them.
>>64060661
feels like any day now we're gonna see a corner man jerk off over his wmma fighter to spray cooling liquids upon her face and chest
>not joining the team
>2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f94KqUORcvU
>>64060590
normies think mcgregor could beat rockhold in a fight
>putting TheChris in charge of losing
>>64060399
>cat will never sit on your face
>>64060721
RDA would wipe the fucking floor with McGregor fyi to be perfectly honest family.
>>64060661
No he fucking wasn't. He was a teammate helping her fix her fucking fight kit when she hadn't noticed. I've had female teammates do the same to me when my shorts were pulled down after a BJJ tournament match and I've done the same for them. If someones gear is fucked up and they're minds in the match you just fix it for them. Nothing pervy about it at all you non-training autist.
>>64060695
<yyeeeeessss???!!!
>>64060755
What did you just say to me? Come say that to me in my gym and I'll embarrass you in front of everyone you little twerp.
>>64060772
I'll have you know I have over 300 confirmed heems
>>64060432
>Is it really shit guys?
I enjoy it.
>Tfw had a nightmare that I was browsing Chris' Sherdog and it read 13-1
Woke up shaking.
>>64060772
*flicks jab* *loads up an overhand right*
>>64060766
shit.
>Yeeessss?
>>64060792
(can't wake up)
List of fighters/fights forgotten due to the ABSOLUTE epicness if this fight week.
ufc fight night
>Johnny eduardo vs aljamain sterlin
>Jim miller vs michael chiesa
>tim means vs john howard
TUF
>mendes vs edgar
>barboza vs ferguson
>Joe mother fucking Lauzon
ufc194
>Holloway vs Stephens
>Maia vs Nelson
>Faber
>Makdessi vs Medeiros
Hold me /sp/ I've never been this hyped about anything...I don't know if i can wait much longer.
>>64060852
best thing, is usually some undercard fight steals the show
>>64060852
Oh shi nigga, there's a fucking Russian on the card to...jesus fucking christ.
>>64060852
gonna be pretty cool to see all the Irish fans cheering for our bro Faber
>>64060870
I bet Johnny eduardo vs aljamain sterlin steals it...I really might be more excited for that fight than any other. HUGE fan of eduardo.
>>64060567
Who, betch?
>>64060755
>>64060772
>>64060782
>>64060800
I would eliminate you all in 35 seconds flat.
>>64060876
The Irish like Faber now?
>>64060713
Mcgregor looks only slightly smaller....
>>64060909
yes because up is now down and left is right...
>>64060887
yeah was my idea, edwardo, jim miller and holloway for showsteallers.
wonder if raging al will be on embedded. with chris and sterling fighting
>>64060909
He's a nice honest chap and well able to banter
>>64060996
He's a 43 year old skater bro.
Do you guys realize how cheap it is to hire shitposters?
You can have an Indian or Phillipino person shitposting for you 12 hours a day for like $2 an hour, seriously.
I just want you guys to realize that this is reality. I'm not >implying anything.
>>64060990
I think miller subs chiesa, holloway works stephens...honestly how does sterlin do against eduardo? I don't know much about sterlin, but if Eduardo keeps it standing I think he wrecks him.
>>64061019
Define shitpost, fellow heemer.
>>64060501
I was getting kind of bummed today. Aldo is probably going to win, the McGoober will probably get ridiculed very hard.
I'd miss him
>>64061019
It's Filipino, you mong
>>64061069
it's flip to be entirely frank in this moment with you
>>64060501
We never see an mma event like this (3 fucking days of fantastic fights) again, because of injuries etc etc...how we got here with no pull outs is a fucking miracle. Be happy /heem/er, and always remember it.
>>64061064
Aldo probably won't win unless his stand up has improved or McGregor's has dropped since fighting Mendes. Conor is at another level on the feet.
Where is predictions bro?
>>64061085
It's not going to be the same without Michelle waterson
Never forget.
>>64060956
Conrads torso and head are half the size of The Chris'
Anyone know where I can see the video of Rory walking out to "Can't Touch This"?
>>64061037
Whatever you want it to be, if you're the one writing the checks.
>>64061106
Connor gets hit in the head a lot my friend. I don't think he will completely outclass Jose as you say
>>64061085
I hope to god I am not busy on those days or I have to stay up or wake up at ungodly hours.
>>64061119
You know, based on how pwned Tecia got on TUF, she could lose to Jocelyn.
>>64061155
You people keep saying that yet the only visual damage he's ever took in his whole career was the gash from mendes.
>>64061158
>not clearing your schedule for fights
>not snorting cocaine to stay up to watch the fights
Exactly how deep do your beta roots run?
>>64061118
Check last thread
>>64061184
Yeah but he still gets hit in the head a lot, he rolls with the punches and usually doesn't take them on the chin, but he still gets hit.
>>64061184
So much this.
This is Joe Duffy after he beat McG in ~30 seconds.
Joe won, everyone knows that, but... his face doesn't not tell a story.
>>64061184
brain trauma is not visible. he got hit hard by chad. i still think he handily wins the standup though. aldo is visibly physically diminished.
>>64061184
Because mendes was a step up from his normal competition. Aldo is better on the feet in my opinion.
Who knows though
Pea Head hit Connor a lot, it's free on YouTube if you want to see
I wish the UFC would clearly mark the time the event was starting and auto convert into my timezone.
>>64061189
dude I got social obligations...I will see if I can clear shit but I dont want to burn any bridges.
>staying up all night
Dude I nearly ruined myself staying up 40 hiours last week watching fights. I dont think I can do it for 3 days. Is it all literally back to back? I might have to get some power naps in.
Hey guys, I've been thinking about the sponsor problem in the UFC and I've been trying to come up with a solution to this problem.
How can the fighters keep their sponsor and still be compliant with UFC rules?
Naming their fight-ending combos after their sponsors.
>Rogan: You caught him with a good couple of shots here, let's take a look at your handy work, sir.
>Anon: Yeah, I call that the ADIDAS Special: left uppercut, right hook.
>Rogan: Earlier you pulled off this slick guard pass into side mount and almost got the arm triangle locked in, walk us through it.
>Anon: This is a move I hit in practice on guys all the time, I call it the CONDOM DEPOT Special.
Pretty much anything can be labeled a sponsor name. What do you guys think? Smash or pass?
The contrast between Sage and Pfist on Embedded is hilarious.
>>64061219
>brain trauma is not visible
Isn't it? You never notice when someone takes a stiff shot?
I wonder if when Conor moves up the walk though punches is still going to be as effective, because he might be able to do that for most FWs when he's still got reach, but his physical advantages would be diminished against the bigger competition and they'll hit harder.
Not saying he's going to get heemed every time or anything, just that he might not be able to disregard big punches as much.
>>64061225
Seems like you could pass it off as 10th Planet stuff
>>64061222
>in the U.S. its thur, fri, sat back to back to back
>considering missing literally the best event ufc will ever put on
Seriously...your betaness
>>64061239
Not necessarily.
There are people who have no brain trauma and get hurt easy. And there are people who clearly have Brain trauma like Hendo or in Boxing James Toney and they used to take a great shot.
>>64060876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M1P4eSvlfQ
>tfw you'll never run the UFC and make all the calls
>>64061254
I will catch Namajunas and the Aldo fights for sure.
The only one I will c0onsider skipping is the TUF finale because I have not seen that season yet and I might need a break.
>>64061239
of course, what i'm saying is that even if a hard shot doesn't visibly affect you, brain trauma still occurs. i shouldve said it's not [always] visible. conor undoubtedly took incurred some in the chad fight even though he never appeared rocked.
>>64061276
>missing mendes vs edgar
>missing barbosa vs ferguson
>missing joe lauzon
ahem, I shall still call you a beta
>>64061276
They're all on in the middle of the day just watch them later that night if you're busy what the fuck man
>>64061294
like I said it depends where they start so I can nap between them.
>>64061263
to be clear, any blow to the head will cause some degree of brain trauma. it's actually repeated subconcussive blows (that generally would have zero immediate visible effect) that are the biggest cause of chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
>>64061302
>They're all on in the middle of the day j
the way the other guys are making it seem is that I need to stay up for 3 days straight
like I said the UFC doesnt mark the time on their website.
>>64061276
Frankie always put on a good fight. The Swanson fight was cathartic despite being repetitive. Would recommend watching since its free
>>64061028
sterling has a winning streak at BW, him and almeida. caraway and a bunch of the top faggots are dodging him, dodson and almedia. I could see him fighting barao next
>>64061323
got fightpass anyway I always liked frankie.
>>64061323
loved his spinning kick to backfist perfectly back to a balanced stance. you could gif it and it'd loop perfectly
>>64061263
Interesting point. I meant to say that one should be able to see when someone is getting hurt in a fight.
When someone takes a hard shot to the chin I guess there's brain trauma, isn't there?
Do you think that some people are less likely to get KO'd from the *exact* same shots at the exact same angles?
>>64061324
Barao is at FW now
I watched a bit of him...I don't know how his takedowns will be against Eduardo. Looks to me LnP is his only shot if raphael didn't sub him sterlin wont and Eduardo will knock him silly on the feet.
>>64061276
>missing any fight
come on, fight fan, get with the program!
>>64061346
Yeah people with big dense heads require more force to move IF they don't have pre existing issues
Getting hit in the head is bad that's why everyone at AKA is going down the pooper
>>64061346
people can't be hit at the exact same angle because they dont have identical heads with identical bone structures. the way the punch lands will always be different in some way minute way. but to your point yes some people are just more or less resistant to being knocked out.
I regularly get 100+ upvotes for taking jokes on /heem/ and posting them on r/mma.
>>64061400
Pretty cool!
Brehs for only $200/month I can roll around with DC, Cain, Rockhard, and Khabib
How cool would it be to "accidentally" injure them? Khabib and Cain specifically
>Jack Slack, Luke Thomspson SBN, Robin Black, Firas Zahabi and all the other great MMA analysts are picking Conor McGregor
>the Las Vegas oddsmakers concur
>but no, Jose Aldo is going to win because some mouthbreathers on 4chins don't like the way Conor McGregor acts at press conferences
>>64061475
That settles it! No need to fight
>>64061475
who did paige pick
>>64061475
I actually think Conner is hilarious. I Just think Aldo is more well rounded.
>>64061475
>Firas Zahabi picking Conor
That never happened, stop the wishful thinking
this is it, we're monday. The final week.
#pumped
>>64061504
>has never submitted anyone
I think I want to kill myself lads. What the fuck do I do?
>>64061535
This means that there's no chance for injury barring freak accidents at this point, they stop hardcore fight training camp a week out IIRC
>>64061548
Look at pictures of Sage
>>64056880
Looks fucking delicious, especially with seasoning. Too bad the the only things we have to hunt down under are the things that hunt us.
>>64061548
Best chance is buckshot in your mouth. Most people flinch at the last moment, so it needs to be in your mouth so you can't vagina out.
>>64061507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUlQ7qS5ClU
It's quite clear he's favoring Conor and thinks the only way Jose wins is if the legendary WEC beast reappears
>>64061548
Pay whores on Chaturbate to do what you want pham.
>Tate, therefore this comment is MMA related
>>64061548
You stop blogposting on /heem/
>>64061548
you a NEET? If so, don't be that. Problem solved.
NEET life = depressing, lonely and ambition killing.
>http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/12/6/9855720/pfister-on-northcutt-im-sure-hes-juicing
Should Cody fight fire with fire?
>>64061548
Why do you want to?
>>64061548
wait til Sunday m8
>>64061560
Not at AKA I bet you DC and Cain are on top of Rockhard hitting him with a tire iron
Like, grow up, gawd
It's fight week lads
>>64061580
is-natty.png
>tfw cheeky fight week injury incoming
>>64061603
Literally no one liked Vanilla Ice after about 2 months.
Source: Am really old guy.
Vanilla Ice mod? The fuck?
>>64061633
Nope doesn't happen fight week, weeks out.
>no stupid sauna incidents
>no struve heart type issues
We are clear
>>64061652
Not the newbies. I browse the last page looking for cute new girls and make them my bitch for a bit.
>>64061664
Did you notice the poster in the background?
>>64061652
my dad just saw me looking at this
thanks asshole
>>64061668
Not until you pointed it out
>>64061676
>>64060721
he would
what'd I miss that just got deleted
>>64061548
don't do it bro. you'll make your mum cry.
best part about MMA is watching faggots you dont keep their hands up get heemed. Shit technicians go home
>>64060433
I'm sorry that you live in Invercargill
watching the pride 2003 elimination, god tier card desu, true champions unlike today.
>>64061700
so gentle
>>64061700
http://archive.4plebs.org/sp/
>>64061271
>faber mad as fuck
kek
What's the gayest thing you'd do with Rockhold?
>>64061839
vibrate my tongue on his prostate
>>64061271
Kek at Faber get mad at 0:26. Conor broke him already.
>>64061839
Touch his balls
>>64061475
>Robin Black
Sauce?
>>64061869
You're gonna have to log some hard minutes in the Google, matey...
>>64061475
The fucking experts also thought the Pats would win today and they fucked up. Those same faggots thought Ronda would win too.
Is pride 2003 elimination the best mma card in history? it's got all the best fighters as well as young dana commentating the chuck lidell vs overeem fight (ufc vs pride). Dana has a 50k bet on chuck and isn't rich yet.
>>64061879
Robin picked Holly.
Speaking of Robin Black, he did an interview with Weidman over lunch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f94KqUORcvU
>>64061869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEirDh8T2k8
@9:42
>>64061910
Not to mention the fact that it was the most casual of the casuals who thought Ronda would beat Holly in 10 seconds.
>tfw you suspect Robin Black posts in /heem/
>>64061951
yeh but Aldo hasn't got the holes in his game that Conor can exploit. Not like Ronda and Holly. So the fight isn't clear cut
>>64061968
He already posts on reddit, he might well be here
>>64061968
He came up in conversation, because someone (me) mentioned mma analysts, and how some are usually wrong.
>>64061951
It's easy to spout this shit after the fact
If Holly slipped and got subbed you'd call her a can. Fuck off captain hindsight
That being said Rockhold has zero chance.
>>64061982
It was easy to spout it before the fact.
>>64061990
How much did you win
>>64061995
More than you lost.
You guys are really overrating these analysts.
you now remember parlaykek
>>64062004
Proof
I want Aldo to sub McGoober and then retire in his post fight speech, telling Dana and Reebok to go fuck themselves.
>>64061982
Anyone FightFan who watched the Betch fight knew that Ronda's striking was shit, even though she got the ko.
Best UFC walkouts?
>>64062020
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PfsyLLeULkY
>>64062020
https://www.instagram.com/p/--1JTkELzL/
>>64062005
>tfw used to watch the fight network now probably won't anymore because Ramdeen and Black are in the UFCs pockets
>>64062015
Listen. I can bet a Million Dollars on McGoofballs. It won't make him win, but he will.
I can bet my vagina on Rose and it won't matter one bit, but she will also win.
All this "ZOMG DID YOU BET ALL YOUR MONEYS ON THE MAN WHO YOU THOUGHT WOULD WIN" nonsense is just that.
>>64062016
I don't think everyone knew she wouldn't be able to take her down at all, Obamas dad.
Did you think you'd ever be this hyped up for a featherweight fight before McGregor came along?
>>64062032
Then why brag anonymously you fucking pea head
>>64062055
Where did I do that
>>64062060
Bitch please
>>64062051
Aldo vs Edgar got me really hyped.
That was a superfight imo
>>64062026
badass
>>64062028
wat
>>64062032
>my vagina
At least you acknowledge that you're a pussy. Shut the fuck up or I will legitimately delete your chin.
>>64062043
Correct.
>>64062082
>>64062067
This is the post that caused the controversy >>64061951
On fight day, most people here thought Holly stood a chance. Maybe you two fags were busy posting on facebook.
I really think Aldo wins.
If Conor loses, he will move up to 155, beat a guy like Eddie Alvarez or Nate Diaz and magically he's just as big as ever before while shit talking another Brazilian champ who was never a draw.
It's win/win for the UFC. Dana won't be too bummed.
>>64062032
>I won more money than you lost
>bragging about betting is stupid
100% certified woman wrote this
>>64062094
You still going on faggot? I suggest you honestly shut your shit talker before I delete it permanently.
>>64062020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIX4ZiKJw6U
Literally any of these
>>64062094
Come close so I can smell your pussy, NostraDumbass
>>64062096
>>64062105
>>64062103
here's your (you)
>>64062094
>most people here thought Holly stood a chance
Really? Because I seem to remember you all insisting she was a can.
>>64061839
let him hug me, maybe,..
>>64062102
who has signed the most posters?? murr maybe?
>>64062109
você vai morrer homenzinho
>>64062102
Just realized I haven't seen Miller and Chiesa in the Embedded ONCE.
>people don't realize Conor is the odds favorite because the oddsmakers know all the casuals are going to dump money on Conor
>>64062133
Weird complaint
>>64062143
Aren't the odds based on the bets?
>>64062148
How? They're the co-main event.
>>64062148
Miller is actually pretty cool. He's like Cerrone except not a fake tryhard wannabe redneck but an actual redneck who does lots of DIY and outdoors stuff while not acting XGAMES XTREME about it.
Is Cowboy still the same guy that got lit up by Nate Diaz? Or has he improved?
>>64062173
No one from New Jersey is cool. I'm from Endicott
>>64062207
Obviously pandering
>cheers
Fuck outta here
fuck cody pfister
>russian rapist face
>has cats
i don't think i need more to dislike him, what a cunt
>>64062207
Who cares who this guy picked. Even the best handicappers in sports are wrong a lot. Wanna know who else picked Holm to win? My kid brother who didn't even know who Holly was before the Ronda fight.
>>64062221
PUNCH A HORSE, SHITBREATH
-Cody
>>64062212
It's ok, you only have to hang around here for a few more weeks.
Welp, I just tried to post a WebM from Aldo/Mendes but I can't post it because I get an error saying that the webm is subject to a copyright claim and I should refrain from posting it.
>>64062231
Are you the same guy who wrote cringe about winning Internet arguments a week ago?
Cody Pfister.
>>64062230
fuck you cody , i hope sage heem's you and does a meme flip again
>>64062245
Go put on all black and walk a dog fgt
>>64062245
Nah, I got this. Pretty confident too.
>>64062252
>training for THE SAGE at a Zumba/Yoga facility
Miesha's actually getting more attractive with age.
My grandma says Conor will win by 4th round TKO after trailing 29-28. She's never wrong.
>>64062263
That's what $8k a fight gets you. Hopefully beating Sage will get me a prelim spot on a PPV
Bree's Stephen A. Smith is reporting that Tom Brady sent Giseles agent a text that said Aldo has more experience but will slip on spilled ice between the 4th and 5th million dollar baby style
What are you fucking casuals? I knew chuck Liddell would lose dancing with the stars I predicted the scores
>>64062252
good luck than, do a meme backflip if you win
>>64062221
come on, he looks like a /heem/ regular.
Support Cody, Sage is the ultimate frat bro.
>>64062283
você vai morrer assaltante cavalo
>>64062266
not really
but she isn't aging like milk like most women
Anyone going to Vegas for the card?
Who would you rather fug
Miesha or Paige?
aldo wont make it past 4 minutes
>>64062337
Conor McGregor got me hot for Irish kekolding. Want to fuck my girlfriend?
>>64062286
ikr he totaly looks like he belongs here
on the other side, sage is a dude i wish i was when growing up... the marital arts competing n stuff , anyway changed my mind about cody after watching the last fight night blog... the hair coment made me kek
>>64062294
>too scared to threaten in english
lmao
>>64062345
shes probably trash man
>>64062332
Paige, younger tighter sliz
I looked into Weidmans eyes, he's scared
There will be one exchange
Rockhold is going to take his head clean off
>>64062348
Come close little man, I want to smell it
Who /Aldo+Romero/ parlay here
who /r̶s̶p̶c̶t̶ the toe/ here
YOU COULD STAND ME UP AT THE GATES OF HELL
>>64062382
Weidman can live with losing to Rockhold, Luke can't live with losing to Chris
>>64062242
>a week ago
>>64062366
smell my farts senpai
Jon Jones admitted to smoking a lot of weed.
Does this prove that weed is harmless?
He is the GOAT
>>64062391
can't wait for the aka feels. first dc, then cain now rockhold.
after all the trash they talk, they all cry
>>64062413
>harmless
>literally nearly ruined his life
>>64062408
I'm not here to take farts, I'm here to take over
>>64062418
that whole you can't get addicted to weed. my step brother had massive problems quitting, he went through wicked withdrawl
>>64062420
Tey don't stink like I stink
>>64062418
>weed made him drive drunk and crash into a pregnant woman's car
>>64062437
>wicked withdrawl
can't get phisicaly addicted from weed
mentaly sure, you can get addicted on pretty much anything
>>64062446
He wasn't drunk he was smoke marihuana pea head
>>64062452
it was physical. lo of appetite, headache etc.
>>64062446
Is this supposed to sound implausible?
>>64062461
>implying stoners are playing with a full deck
Dey tink like child tink
>>64062418
who?
>>64062472
George Sotiropolos you pea head
https://sqor.com/posts/bb73ed9d-3d0f-4bfd-8e33-1b4d9392f480
masterful mewment here