Fuck all of these winning teams, /futility/ thread, Lions/Browns/Bills fans get in here and talk about how the football gods hate these franchises and want their fanbases to suffer eternally. Bungles, Chorgers, and Viqueens fans also welcome.
Vikings finally getting their ring this year.
>>63980468
Can we be invited?
>last owl win 30 years ago
>QB hell
>our best franchise QB is unironically Jay Cutler
>trestman era
>>63980482
Teams will just stack 8 in the box during the playoffs, and Teddy can't win it all on his arm. It'd be cool to see them win the division though.
>>63980507
We were in a superb owl not too long ago man. And we've had some good seasons. There are still a lot of teams perennially shit below us
I don't know what to do anymore family that is mine.
We fucking had it 23-21 at 0:00 but kekron sold it too well.
>>63980523
If it's that simple why don't teams do it now to beat them?
>>63980468
Have the Lions ever even been to the NFC Championship game? I think they made it in 91 and got BTFO by the Redskins, but I'm not sure if that was a divisional or not. Either way, that was my first year watching the NFL playoffs. Things were looking up for the Lions then, lol.
>>63980507
>won multiple superbowls
fuck off 2bh
>>63980532
One that we lost to chicken parm. Woooow.
>>63980547
>bears
>multiple superbowls
uh
>>63980507
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE
>>63980537
teams in the playoffs are good, good defense would confuse teddy badly
>>63980550
They just weren't seduced by sexy rexy. it happens.
>>63980556
He's including our dozen pre-mergers.
What do you call a baby owl? We won multiple superb-those
Th-they're definitely going to win on sunday and keep the season alive, right? Just because >we're starting some guy who was literally signed off the street at right tackle against Watt, it doesn't mean they're screwed, r-right?
Loins fan here. I've got hope for the future now that Martha is the owner and might actually make good hirings. Bill Ford was the one consistent factor over all those shit years and he's gone now.
I hate to lose to the Packers anytime but it was probably the best thing because now Caldwell is less likely to come back and I can just relax and not worry anymore about what happens this season.
>rename the Browns to the Cleavland Owls
>change jersey colour to black & white
>make logo a fierce looking Owl swooping
There I just fixed the browns
>now prefer the taste of razor
>to the taste of cake
>>63980600
Blsck and white is already used.
>>63980600
Why do they call it the Browns anyway? I mean wtf is a Brown. Sounds like a fat stinky shit or something, which is I guess accurate for their franchise.
>>63980468
Who /Packers, Steelers and Patriots/ hwew?
topkek fuck off losers, you will always ve losers
>>63980585
Browns/Bills/Lions won multiples of those too, they don't count for much.
>>63980624
they're named after Paul Brown aka the GOAT coach
>>63980624
Dudes name
What about jest fans
Everyone is always so mean to us ;_;
>>63980468
Fuck you guys. We used to be a force to be reckoned with. Look at us now, wtf has become of this franchise? It's not like we've had a few bad seasons, we've had them non-stop. I seriously can't remember the last time this team had a season that was considered good. Even with Marino we couldn't win an owl and that's just fucking sad.
>>63980792
>paying donkey kong suh $120m
L M A O
>>63980792
>fans
>in miami
>>63980507
You fucks were a top tier team in the mid 2000s
>tfw the Lions would be 6-6 right now if the refs did their damn jobs properly
>>63980597
Normally a loss by the Packers wouldn't bother me too much but the shit that happened last night was the most blatant bullshit I've ever seen in football. That game was fucking ours and the refs took it away with their incompetence.
>>63981583
I seriously don't know why the NFL hasn't made a policy that negates wins in the case of bad calls.
>>63981614
nigga, your coverage team lost you that game.
you were outmanned in the endzone on a play you KNEW had to be a hail mary.
what the fuck?
>>63981614
I don't think I've ever seen the lions win off of blatant refball but I can think of 6 different times where it directly affected the outcome against us. Do teams actually pay the refs to beat us? Why does this always happen to us?
>>63981636
Packers had blatant holds on defenders so they couldn't make a catch attempt but there's supposedly no flag for holding on a Hail Mary.
>>63980545
Yeah Lions didnt have to go to the wildcard cause they finished 12-4. Won the divisional and proceeded to get raped by the R******* in the NFCCG. Barry was held to like 40 yards.
>>63981662
The universe could never allow a Bills v Lions superb owl, since then one of them would have to win.
>>63981614
I blame the coaches for the loss. The Hail Mary is the easiest thing in the world to defend and they did a horrible job of it. They weren't prepared at all.
There was no facemask but it's easy to see why the ref called it, from his perspective it looked like one and the league doesn't allow penalty reviews for whatever reason so what can you do.
>>63981688
Who knows, the Lions might win a Super Bowl if they ever managed to get to one.
>>63981657
>blatant
>>63980600
Owls are gay dude
I'd prefer the shit jokes to being an owl
>>63981583
>>63981629
>you now remember that the Lions were unironically in the Wild Card last year
>you now remember that the sole reason they lost was because of refball that the league admitted to the next day
>waaaah the refs lost us the game
>no, it wasn't the fact that we only scored 6 points in 3 quarters
>it definitely wasn't because the defense allowed 27 points in the 2nd half
Wew lad
>>63981768
>the refs allow something illegal to happen that results in a loss
>no it's your fault that the refs did their jobs incorrectly you should have seen it coming
>>63981652
>Do teams actually pay the refs to beat us? Why does this always happen to us?
Last season there was some controversy over the referees openly hanging out with titty dancers / escorts in the Dallas Cowboy's party bus prior to the game, which was won by Dallas who had several questionable and a couple of flat-out crooked calls in their favor.
>>63980468
is BLL the new great broship??
>>63980550
chicken parm in his prime with marvin harrison in his prime.
JUST
16
YEARS
SENPAI
>>63981239
This
no one has mentioned the titans?
>>63980593
We've been done since the loss the Jacksonville
>>63981701
>penalty reviews
I'd love to watch 8 hour football games.
>>63981836
One play dude. One play. The Lions had that game in the palm of their hand with a 20-0 lead against a struggling and anemic Packers offense. The Lions blew that game, plain and simple. The hail mary and the questionable face mask call won the Packers the game, but the truth is it should've never even gotten to the point where the Packers could actually win the game.
>>63984562
That's true. One bad call/play shouldn't hide the fact that they blew a 20 fucking point lead
>tfw generally too successful to be in this group, but still never win any meaningful games
Being an Eagles fan is awful.
>>63980507
fuck off you went to the owl in 2006
>>63980468
Could any long time Bills fans tell me what it was like for the community when they lost 4 super bowls in a row? Was there mass rage after the first couple of losses? Did millions of people just stop being Bills fans? Has the Buffalo area recovered after 20 years?
I just can't imagine a community surviving after such immense disappointment.
>>63980537
Packers did and it wasn't even close.
>>63981629
Because changing the outcomes to games because of hurt feelings is an atrocious precedent to be set.
>>63980468
I'm not going to pretend to know how you guys feel, but I can at least feel you a little bit.
>>63980468
Cursed.
>>63984687
iggles are in their own class of super futility
>>63980468
Cowbro here, Lions are my second team.
Most suffering season I've ever had.
>>63984784
>second team
>>63981662
>>63980545
Redskins was able to stop both the Lions and Bills from becoming a relevant franchise that year.
>>63984801
Yea senpai, step up to having 2 teams.
>>63981583
If they did their job, they would be 5-7. Lions were gifted their first win
>>63984784
>second team
>both in the NFC even
>>63984863
faggot
>>63984894
>>63984957
>Too much of a bitter mongoloid to support 2 teams.
Kukcs.
>>63980507
Yeah but like, you guys won your superbowl on thanksgiving
>>63980600
more like the cleveland mistakes
>>63980792
Well, technically Marino was the PeyPey of his days.
>>63984597
eagles suck so bad they don't even get invited to losers' threads.
>>63980507
>having a super bowl
Fuck of normie scum reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
>>63984451
It would be BBL
Chargers realizing they have to play the broncos
>>63984648
My mom told me my Dad stopped being such a big fan after the music city miracle in 1999. After that and the 4 bowl loses something inside my dad died according to her
Image a world where the conference championship games where between Cleveland/Buffalo and Detriot/Minnesota. No matter what I would be satisfied with the outcome of the owl. I love seeing teams win something important for the first time.
>>63980792
>>63980789
>>63980507
>literally all have Owl wins on the resume
>hey guize can we come too we've been inept for a while ;p
FUCK
OFF
>>63985898
I would relish the day were it to come
Razorcakes were my team when I was about 6 and the Browns are my 2nd favorite. And I've always had love for the loins
>>63980523
brilliant. im sure norv turner wont expect such a innovative, never before seen strategy.
it's just lol. obviously the lions have as bad luck as anybody and it's frustrating but the team still sucks so i can't be bothered to care that much.
go green :)
>>63980532
>we
>No iggles
Terrible trinity
>>63985882
>something inside my dad died
That's. Just. Depressing.
>>63986616
No shit. As if people in Buffalo need another reason to ponder suicide
>>63986854
>ponder
triggered desu
>>63980507
>People unironically think Cutler was ever the problem after watching this season
Somehow I guess there are Bears bandwagoners that never saw how horrendous the Matz and Lovie OC eras were.
>>63987144
>this triggers the Swede
Who would have guessed
>>63986561
>>>/reddit/
>>63980482
kek
Is baseball futility welcome? Are 20 consecutive losing seasons and three consecutive wild card losses good enough for entry?
As a Lions fan, I gotta say congrats to the Vikings. Make us proud. Fuck the Packers.
>>63987144
>underrated post.
That asshole.
>>63988155
I'm a Vikings fan and I am still mad at how that game ended yesterday. I just wish one day the refs would smile upon my team the way they carry the Packers
>>63984784
>second team
How did the pack get back in the game anyways? Thay fumble forward was the usually gods hating us/lucky fluke, but what about the rest? How did the pack suddenly stop sucking?
>>63988155
Never had a problem with the loins. Sorry about yesterday
>>63988239
Packers struggle when opposing d-backs play really tight coverage at the LOS. Taking away all throws within 10 yards and daring the receivers to beat them deep 1v1. Seems like they backed off that strategy a bit and went more of a prevent route. This allowed Rodgers to find a few quick hitting throws which got the team in rhythm.
Question to Lions/Browns fans.
Do you think your team is actually cursed?
I mean there's being bad for a while due to bad management and whatnot and there's shit that happens with your teams?
I'd argue the Falcons are third place for being shit
>>63988314
Lions are definitely cursed. Browns just fuck themselves. EVERYONE but them could see that manlel was going to be a trainwreck.
>>63988314
Yeah, Lions are definitely cursed. Roger Goodell will do anything he can to see them lose.
Do Eagles fans count?
>>63988314
There is no such thing as a curse
Lions fan here and us and the browns just have woefully inept ownership. If you look during the 90s the lions actually has competent teams, even if it was just because of Barry. Hiring millen and keeping him for so long was what put us in the position we are in today. Then firing him and keeping his right hand man as GM. Bill Ford is dead now and it seems like Martha is out to create her own legacy which is promising so far. Even when she dies it doesn't sound like the Ford babies want to take care of the team so maybe they will sell it to someone like based Dan Gilbert. But would he want to give up the team that has LeBron for an NFL team in his hometown?
>>63988401
Nobody likes Philthy or feels sorry for you
The only solace I take in this loss is the confirmation that the fagkers will lose in the playoffs. It would be very sweet if they didn't make it, esp if the bears do. Green gay is not an elite team this year :)
>>63988441
I thought packers owned you guys.
>>63980468
Who /JoeyGuaranteed/ here?
I'll be okay if >we tank next year too tbqh. Bosa, Fournette and a matured Manziel will be tearing up the league from 2017 onwards
Can us Colts join?
>2-14 a few years ago
>Luck has been injured a lot thos year
> only 6-5 when i expected them to be like 10-1 at least at this point
>Only one owl win in the last 10 years
Life is sad :(
>>63988684
>Won an owl in the past 10 years
>Still win playoff games
>Had a franchise QB and HoF coach
>Crying about a rough season
Get out.
>>63988740
>HoF coach
You mean the guy who designed this?
>>63988803
Dammit Igor,
Tony Dungy.
>>63988740
To be fair, the Clots are one of the worst run franchises. They just managed to be lucky enough to be absolutely terrible in the two best years to have the #1 pick.
>>63980468
>Have a loss on the season
>Haven't won a Superb Owl in almost a year
The struggle is real
>>63988684
Fellow clotsfag here
If this thread was simply about being the most poorly run teams, we would be top five no question
But we don't belong in a futility thread, because we've had a reasonable amount of success (mostly willed by one of the greatest QBs ever and one of the most underrated coaches ever) this millennium. Hopeless we are not.
>>63988803
Wait a second... what... what is going on there?
>>63989099
Our coach decided that being cutesy and going for memes was the way to go in a one-score game against the pats
>>63981726
>Owls are gay dude
Fuck off, fäm. I bet you even like bald eagles, the literal mutilated/cut/jewified dick heads of Ornithurae.
>>63988314
Two things
Yes, it does feel that way, and most Lions fans I know predict the Lions to choke and suck regardless of player/coach/game situation, just because their hopes and dreams have been tramples and mauled for years. This happens to me too but i realize that I am just whining.
Obviously curses aren't real (if they were, we would have a superbowl already because Bobby Layne's curse ended a while ago!). What's real is a shitty owner who was either too loyal to his employees or too lazy to be bothered each year. Thankfully he finally croaked last year and we'll get someone who actually gives a shit. Martha seems to at this point but she's 92 or something.
The bottom line is that the Lions are a shit franchise who field shit teams because of a shit owner who finally died after owning the team for like 50 years and maybe now we can have some competence. Or not, the NFL is a tough league.
>>63980482
If the Vikings or Bills made it back to the Superb Owl I'd want to see them lose so they can be 0-5.
>>63989099
A coach overthinking himself is going on here
>mfw people blame me for bandwagoning when I live in Buffalol
I have no idea why anyone would choose to subject themselves to that kind of hell.
>>63989099
>Wait a second... what... what is going on there?
>>63989153
>Our coach decided that being cutesy and going for memes was the way to go in a one-score game against the pats
>>63989860
>A coach overthinking himself is going on here
But what was the intended result?! Because it looks to me like the quarterback will be sacked 0.05 seconds after the snap?
ASTERISK
ASTERISK
>>63989950
Two reasons to root for a team
You live there
Your family supports a team before you are born
Just know that even if your team wins a hundred owls the fans who live in that area have infinitely more claim to those titles than you do. I bet they would even laugh at you and tell you to support your own team. This is why foreigners shit on American sports fans. Can you picture a yellow toothed brit supporting a winning club just because they win, when he has a team in his village that has over a century's worth of history?
>>63990161
>fans who live in that area have infinitely more claim to those titles than you do
literally the epitome of
>we, ours, us
the team accomplishes shit, you don't
you get your kick out of the team winning because you tied yourself to them emotionally and potentially monetarily
being from any particular place does not negate those feelings
if my team wins, I feel good
I couldn't give a fuck what residents of that city/state think of me
a-are we welcome
>>63990141
The ball was never supposed to be snapped. It was supposed to be a bizarre formation on fourth down to confuse and thus pull the pats offsides (and get the first down), or to simply never get the ball snapped and take a delay of game penalty and then punt. Why they didn't try to accomplish this by just having Luck hard count, I have no idea
>implying the Browns won't get their first #1 overall pick since Couch
>implying the Browns won't draft Paxton Lunch
>implying Lunch won't be bust
>tfw the only team older than the 90s expansion franchises (way older) with LITERALLY NO championships whatsoever
>not even recognized for suffering like browns/lions
just kill me right the fuck now fa-mi-ly
>>63991033
>tfw the only team older than the 90s expansion franchises (way older) with LITERALLY NO championships whatsoever
the bungles are the same
>>63980792
>>63985948
>Miami Dolphins: multiple Owls on the books
>perfect season recorded
>like a dozen div champs in living memory
Vikings fan here; I must join with the above anon and insist that you FUUUUCK OOOOFFFFF.
>>63990477
Not old enough
>>63980468
>the Lions are the Father
>the Browns are so terrible the lost at winning at losing
Salt in the wound, man.
>>63991316
>the GOAT RB literally retired because he couldn't stand playing for the Lions anymore
>>63989839
>There will be a Vikings/Bills Superb Owl in our lifetime
>one leaves free of their curse, the other is doomed to be winless for all eternity
God be willing
>>63991381
It seems like the Lions always have a GOAT or near-GOAT player, but the rest of the team does jack shit.
Cleveland hasn't had a GOAT candidate for a long time. Kinda jealous.
>>63990446
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
>>63991411
>yfw it's the only owl to end in a tie
>>63991056
they're still 2 years younger, have been to 2 super bowls, and still have a glimmer of hope for being good this season
>Bungles
>9-2
Still irrelevant
Kek,what a franchise
>>63984562
>they deserved to lose
>even though they would've won if the game was called correctly
People who unironically defend reffing mistakes are the stupidest
>>63988123
No. You won Eeries in the 70s with the GOAT (Roberto Clemente)
>>63984504
>EJ gives up 3 back to back to back turnovers for scores early on
>continue to watch without being into it
>they come back
>began to get my hopes up towards the end
>they lose
>>63991445
You forgot about >muh Joe Thomas
>>63992730
I finally got over that game once I realized Cassel would have lost it too. He'd probably only give up one pick 6 but he wouldn't have been able to score as many points as EJ did.
>>63988441
As much as I hate to admit it, Modell wasn't inept. Just a greedy bastard from Brooklyn. Lerner was a Modell apprentice who was the first "new" owner of the franchise. He had the right idea until he fucking died. Then his piece of shit son took over and turned a blind eye to the franchise because (>muh Yuropoor fútbol club). Now we have a man who seems to care, but may end up in prison because of his goddamn truck stops.
>>63992779
It's not the Cassel thing so much as it the the fact that they can manage to break your heart multiple times in a single game.
Should replace the Bills with the Cowboys
>have to work late on Thursday night
>don't get to watch most of the game
>get home during half time
>Lions winning 17-0
>can't believe the Lions are not only winning, but shutting out the Packers
>think that the Lions have the win if they can just keep up whatever it was they did in the first half
>really tired from working, fall asleep before 2nd half starts
>wake up in the morning
>turn on E!SPN
>"Packers beat the Lions on last second hail mary"
>mfw
>>63992870
>replace the bills with the team that beat them in the super bowl two times in a row
>>63993006
most people here weren't even born then
>>63980468
1. How did the Vikings escape the futility zone?
2. How will the Bills lose this week to match the soul crushing the other two endured?
>>63993388
We're not talking about the losers of the week anon. These three teams have endured more historical pain than any other teams in the league, yes including the Vikings.
The next 30 for 30, out next week, is on the Bills owl losses.
Four Falls of Buffalo. Can't wait.
>tfw when people bring up championship games from pre merger
It was a lot easier to win when there was like 12 teams. This goes double for kekers fans
>>63993420
by that logic we can't include any pre-Texans Championships
>>63993420
I know its retarded like you'll seriously see people acting like those wins matter. Lmao how were the 50's granpa did you also live through prohibition
>>63993436
It's to a different degree.
>>63993462
sure, but you can't just randomly decide X, number of teams in the league is enough, its all or nothing
>>63993458
There are only a handful of people on /sp/ who were old enough to appreciate the bills' owl losses.
>>63993436
No that is your ass logic. Even in the 70's there was like 24-26 teams or something like that. That is fucking double the difficulty of pre-merger. Not to mention the salary cap and free agency which are also equalizers
>>63993477
Lmao why the fuck is it all or nothing?
>>63993495
You either have to go with everything, or everything you are old enough to remember, you can't just pick a random date that makes your team look best
>>63993520
Because he's mad he's wrong. Like one team seriously is the same difference as combining 2 leagues
>>63993520
>Lmao why the fuck is it all or nothing?
you can't cherry pick what you want to count
>>63993522
I'm literally knocking my own teams only championships you stupid faggot. No team is "best" post merger. The reason you want to make post 02' is so we can bask in your faggy pats glory
>>63993538
I'm not cherry picking. I'm a Browns fan but I'm not dumb enough to think their dynasty back in baby NFL is as impressive as it would be today
>>63993558
>I'm not dumb enough to think their dynasty back in baby NFL is as impressive as it would be today
Sure its not, just like all the Cowboys championships are not on par with modern ones, but its better than being shit back then
>>63993581
The Cowboys won championships in the 90s dude. The last time the Browns won a championship there were a grand total of 14 teams in the entire league
>>63980468
>>63980468
>http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/12/bart-scott-says-he-once-hid-in-a-bathroom-to-avoid-signing-with-browns
>Bart Scott says he once hid in a bathroom to avoid signing with Browns
>Scott told a story about how he once was at the Browns facility to sign a contract, until he found out the Ravens were interested. So he hid in a bathroom until the Ravens could get the deal done.
Priceless, good old browns.
>>63993604
Sometimes it's really surprising to be reminded of how autistic professional athletes can be
Just say no you retard
>>63993599
No coincidence that the Cowboys have be one of the worst franchises in sports since the salary cap started influencing things. Their championships are a relic of an earlier era where you could run a team poorly and just win by spending the most
>>63993638
> since the salary cap started influencing things.
Are the cowboys the lakers of the NFL?
>>63993638
Well if that's what you're going with then all the championships and seasons before 94 are void
In fact that means that the Browns have 3 winning seasons in their entire history kek
>>63993656
More like the Cubs of the NFL the last 20 years
>>63993665
My point is you could pick all sorts of arbitrary dates to suit whatever argument you are trying to make
>>63993687
Exactly. So why should you be so concerned about what dates other people choose?
>>63993624
He did the right thing.
If he says no, he's burning a bridge. The Ravens literally just called him. He had no idea about the specifics. Only option left is to stall.
If he told the Browns to fuck off and the Ravens deal was bad, he;d probably be up shit's creak until another teamed called.
>>63993716
Because excluding any dates suggests you are simply trying to cherry pick and discredits your opinion
>>63980507
burrs fans need to gtfo. this is not our thread
>Living close to Minneapolis
>Every fucking Vikings fan is being a whiny bitch about the Packers win on thursday
>talk to one Lions fan about it
>"Yeah it was a pretty dumb call, but he did touch the facemask. The question is why the fuck would he have his hand near Rodgers' face and why wasn't Calvin in on the hail mary? Better question, how the fuck do you choke away a 20-0 lead?"
Vikings fans don't get nearly enough shit for being whiny cunts
>>63993750
Not really. People have reasons for doing things other than trying to make their team look good. Like I said, I'm a Browns fan but I acknowledge that circumstances were different back then. I just want to have the most objective viewpoint of the league
>>63993768
and they would have been in FG range if the refs had properly called the PI on the previous play anyways
>>63980507
>there are actually "fans" out there who think Cutler is bad
Trestman made him have 24 interceptions, not himself.
>nearly a century of existence
>9 post season appearances
>0 owls
>have arguably achieved less in their existence than any of of op's teams, and yet
>0 mentions in this thread
Who am I?
At this point it just feels like the NFL is just using the Lions as their guinea pig to see which ways they can effectively fix games with the least amount of outrage.
Hopelessness is just so deeply ingrained into their existence that "Yup that's the Lions' is an acceptable response to refs literally taking their wins away.
>>63995440
Cards
>>63995458
yes
>>63995375
When ESPN forces a viewpoint it sticks
Just ask anyone in amurrica right now what the best NCAAF conference is and 95% would say the SEC
Can any team do any better? Since 1999 here is the list of starting QBs for the Cleveland Browns.
Ty Detmer
Tim Couch
Doug Pederson
Spergon Wynn
Kelly Holcomb
Jeff garcia
Luke McCown
Trent Dilfer
Charlie Frye
Derek Anderson
Brady Quinn
Ken Dorsey
Bruce Gradowski
Colt McCoy
Jake Delhomme
Seneca Wallace
Brandon Weeden
Thad Lewis
Jason Campbell
Brian Hoyer
Johnny Manziel
Connor Shaw
Josh McCown
>>63995521
>Trent Dilfer
>Brady Quinn
>Colt McCoy
>Tim Couch
>>63995521
>that list
how does an organization fail that badly? they've had different owners, different personnel, etc. Literally how is possible for them to fail that consistently? Sheer numbers alone dictate that they should have accidently been good. Jesus, christ,
>browns
>>63984521
More time for tailgating and/or just munching in general.
>>63991445
What about Joe Thomas, Phil Dawson, and for awhile Cribbs?
>>63992798
You actually think Haslam gives a flying fuck? The Browns are his nest egg for when the Feds come knocking. He gives literally zero fucks about winning
>>63990141
http://www.businessinsider.com/colts-fake-punt-was-bad-football-2015-10
This explains it.
>>63980507
I hate Jay.. Everyone is fucking praising him because he's doing less fucking up than normal this season, big whoop. This guy is not superb owl material and definitely not highest paid qb in the NFL material. But every time I mention how much he sucks on Reddit they jump down my fucking throat. Fuck Jay. Our biggest chance was when he was hurt and McCown was actually making completions in his absence, but he got healthy enough just in time to cost the entire team a playoff run. Fuck him.
>>63997317
P.S. we're still under .500, fucking get rid of this guy already.
>>63980468
>mfw these are my closest teams
ive never been to a browns home game. whats the atmosphere like? bills are okay but the lions are always kind of meh even during winning seasons
>>63995537
Dilfer
>had a ring, really the only reason
Quinn
>got keked out of his main opportunity by Derek Anderson
McCoy and Couch
>just tackling dummies for pass rushers due to the O-line being garbage
None of them had a chance.
>>63995560
Simple, just change coaches every two seasons. With a new staff comes a new system, with a new system comes a new QB. In the NFL, if you don't show improvement by your second year, kiss your ass goodbye. Then the cycle starts over again. Winners win, losers lose. That's just how the NFL is today. I accept that anymore. Hell, even when Brady is long gone, the Patriots will be in the playoffs, so will the Steelers, Broncos, etc.
Sure, they'll have one bad season or so, then be back at the top of the mountain.
>>63997335
A Browns home game? Well, when I was a kid it was great. You actually got to witness good games and players, and the place was rocking, especially against division rivals like Pittsburgh, Cincy, and Houston.
Now, it's an eerie presence and a heavy feeling of futility. You go in with just a little bit of hope. Everyone is pulling together. After the first drive, the whole mood changes from that of hope to "why the fuck do I even come here?".
>>63997330
>>63997317
>hates the cut
>goes on reddit
I've been triggered help guys
Vikings/Bills Super Bowl when?
>>63980600
Cosmetic changes won't help as long as Hillbilly Haslem owns the team.
>>63981583
Browns would be 6-6 now if the players and coaches did their damn jobs properly.
>>63984562
Lions would have won if their fucking secondary had covered the tight end instead of all running for the end zone like somebody just opened up a forty of malt.
>>63984562
>The hail mary and the questionable face mask call won the Packers the game
Don't forget the blown PI non-call on the play before the facemask that would have put the Packers in FG range. The Packers would have most likely won anyways if the refs called the final series correctly
>>63993604
>Hides in the bathroom like a little girl
>Brags about it later
Just what I'd expect from someone who played with the Ravens.
>>63995521
You forgot Austin Davis.
