SEA: Mariners sign Nori Aoki for 1yr/$5.5 mil + option
TOR: Ross Atkins named GM
MIA: Henderson Alvarez non-tendered
PIT: Pedro Alvarez non-tendered
Who will be the next Alvarez to get non-tendered?
1st for oreos
Reposting
Indians recently were in talks with the Giants over Carrasco and asked for a package centered around Belt and Panik for him, for some perspective on asking price
>Yankee "fans" thought Gardner would get Carrasco AND Salazar
>Doyer monkies thought Crawford or Ethier orP uig would get Carrasco
Gonna miss aoki
First for numbers 28, 29, and 30 coming soon
>>63971454
>4th
Just like where you'll finish in the East next season
Texas Rangers are winning a World Series in the next few years.
Atlanta would be best place for lee. Atlanta is going trade miller and Teheran and there going to need vet pitch go with they great young arms they all ready have what help make great pitching staff in Atlanta in 91, 92 , was good vet left pitcher (Charlie Leibrant that help show glavine how pitch in up and down of a starter season lee would be like Leibrant and help mold the 2015 young staff . That was missing last season that vet that young staff good go to and pic. His mind on how he could help them learn
from . Roger McDowell is one of best pitching coaches in the game but he wasn’t starter . And staring is a different mind set then relieving is . So haveing vet pitch that help wisler Perez miller Teheran foltz. Simms Jenkins weber banuelos hursh fried can only help these young pitchers , great part we have more great young arms coming no one baseball have a so many great arms coming up in future . Rather any body on hear or in front off like it great young controllable arms are harder find the good young hitters . Ex special with face so many pitches today break down most with at least 1 Tj or shoulder injuries . ( speed gun is over rated and fact that pitch counts are so much watched and pitchers not aloud to build up arm strength has lead to so many Tj. An way $ keeps going up for good arm to great durable arm it just going to go up and find these arm so team going to spend more to get them. And the team ( fo) that figure these faster will get best bet for there buck. So for people on her and to front off that don’t get pitches like miller theran( before none Braves fan talk about theran number for last year you need take time look past the# and find out the truth what has lead to number be so bad last year it wasn’t rader it was because the 1st 4 months season Theran was throwing a two seamer not his 4 seamer . And his two seamer as strait and had no movement (pitching not throwing)
>>63971464
Savage
Seattle Japs
>>63971480
>2016 WS
>giants and rags again
>jints once again sweep in 5
>>63971464
doesn't matter son, gunning for 2017 and after
Royals
>>63971438
>Belt and Panik for Carrasco
Yuk
In late July he went back to throwing his 4 seamer and it had a lot more moving and number got better and it worked better with his change up. So look for for you speech . Pitcher like salzar Carrasco archer Moore smyly Quintana gray Fernandez Ross name that be talked about trade this off season have be talk about more then young hitter being talk about .because team know it harder to find great young controllable Arm then hitters . And though that home run hitter just thing of the past ( sorry not ) it fad. Team in year or so will reliaze ops which is good but at end of day you still need a guy who can hit a three run home run I. Late ings. Is more important the. Guy who can take a walk or not single or double. Not saying though guy don’t have place in game but ops I just a stat just like war but should be the holly grell like every stat geek thing today. And that there reason 7 of top 12 biggest contracts in baseball right now are pitches
>>63971506
little late this time pal
>>63971495
Jints would get DESTROYED if they faced the Rangers again in the World series.
>>63971522
was shitposting in handegg thread sorry mate
>>63971531
>>63971483
It's Teheran not Theran retard. And learn to use a comma or two I don't know what the fuck you just said.
>>63971495
Lmao Darvish and Hamels alone would be enough to sweep the Giants. Those faggots can't hit breaking balls or changeups to save their lives.
>>63971531
>yfw jints throw four straight perfect games and sweep
>>63971560
Did the Giants even make the playoffs last year? LMAO
>>63971570
>>63971580
well when half the team is injured its a bit difficult
>>63971595
That didn't stop the Rangers from making it to the playoffs.
Giants are just a shit team now
>>63971570
This. With Darvish and Hamels the Giants would be lucky to even win 1 game against the Rangers
>>63971570
>can't hit breaking balls
Dail reminder the first home run off of Kershaw's curveball was Brandon Fucking Hicks
>>63971615
>giants are a shit team
>held second place despite playing almost entirely with AA players
>also didnt get no hit(twice in under a week) with a squad of AA players
>>63971438
>Look up Panik's stats to see just how valuable he was
>4.2 WAR in only 100 games and 432 PA
>Potential 6 WAR player even if he doesn't improve
If he stays healthy, will Panik be the best 2nd baseman in the game?
>>63971640
Shit. Team.
Meanwhile the Rangers were all but eliminated from the playoffs by the end of April and we're without their ace and other key players and managed to win the division.
Giants are going to miss the playoffs next year and watch the Rangers win it all
>>63971691
>implying its hard to top the AL West
>one strike away
>TWICE
>>63971703
Giants would be a .400 team if they played in the West.
>>63971708
it's made all the worse because they've never actually won a World Series
so what rags fans hang their hats on is actually a point of mockery
>le dissappear in big games man
>>63971625
No it wasn't. It was fat fuck Adams. And there are numbers which prove the Giants are one of the worst off speed hitters in baseball. That's why Greinke's changeup/slider, and Kershaw's slider/curve have destroyed thst team for as long as they've been active.
You think they'd do any better with the guy with the BEST breaking balls in baseball and one of the best changeups in the game?
>>63971691
>Rags win it all
27th out still needs 3 strikes m8
>>63971743
>That's why Greinke's changeup/slider, and Kershaw's slider/curve have destroyed thst team for as long as they've been active.
must be why the giants won more games against the dodgers last season
>>63971743
>destroyed
Giants: 2010,2012,2014
Doyers: ??????
what quantitative measures are you utilizing re: the word >destroyed
>>63971754
We are talking about the Rangers and Giants. Not a Cardinals team that paid of the Umps to call strikes as balls against the Rangers.
Who the FUCK is Ross Atkins?
>>63971743
Are you only talking about Kershaw in that last line? Does he even throw changeups
>>63971758
Yea but how many games did they win against Kershaw and Grienke. Learn to read
>>63971713
>swept anglels
>5 out of 6 against A'ss
>split with memeiners
>split with Lastros
>1-2 against rags
>>63971843
2-2 vs kershaw with the whole team healthy, 0-2 vs greinke
can we count Bumgarners record though since we're being selective?
>>63971929
Yep would be lucky to get 3rd place in the West
>>63971932
So the Giants are bad against Grienke and Kershaw got it
>>63971982
yet better than the dodgers
>>63971766
>what quantitative measures are you utilizing re: the word >destroyed
Winning the division 3 years straight lol?
you can keep bringing up your fluke championships all you want but the fact of the matter is that the Dodgers have been a better baseball team for the last 3 seasons.
You literally can't say anything to refute this because the Giants haven't taken what matters most to them... The National League West pennant.
It's sounds ridiculing to hear that but it's just the simple truth.
>>63971833
I'm talking about Darvish and Hamels in that last line. There isn't anyone is baseball with better breaking balls than Yu. And when hamels is on his game that change up isn't getting hit even if it's tipped. Kershaw's changeup isn't good.
>>63971758
Why is it that you faggots have to defleft from the argument every time lol.
Kershaw and Greinke both have a collective ERA against the Giants of like 2.1 lifetime.
>>63971743
Fucking look it up, dude. It was in 2014 before Kershaw added another entry.
>>63972024
It's BAFFLING me that retards STILL reply to you
Here's another (You) even though you're an awful troll
Astounding
>>63972024
so how come the giants hit 4 off kershaw on may 21st?
and enjoy winning the division 3 years in a row I guess. I'd rather take pennants and WS trophies
>>63972024
>You literally can't say anything to refute this because the Giants haven't taken what matters most to them... The National League West pennant.
how about the national league pennant?
>>63972063
>Implying we don't know he's blatantly trolling
>Implying it still isn't fun making fun of him when he's wrong which is always
>Wild Card teams
>>63972122
>we're only pretending to be retarded and draw out the same 5 arguments every time
Quality posting
>choking in the postseason
:^)
>>63972143
>wild card teams in the last 5 years have won more pennants than the dodgers have in 28
Which active pitchers have a five-pitch arsenal?
teams that have won a pennant more recently than the doyers:
Mets (2)
Braves (5)
Marlins (2)
Phillies (3)
Cardinals (4)
Reds (1)
Giants (5)
Rockies (1)
Diamondbacks (1)
Padres (1)
Yankees (7)
Red Sox (3)
Rays (1)
Blue Jays (2)
White Sox (1)
Indians (2)
Tigers (2)
Royals (2)
Twins (1)
Astros (1)
Athletics (2)
Rangers (2)
Angels (1)
You may proceed to kek
>>63972144
>wanting only quality posting
Back to reddit
>tfw shitposting waiting for Greinke to make up his fucking mnd
>>63972168
>>63972188
>rockies, diamondbacks, marlins, rays
All have won pennants more recently than the doyers.
Wew lad!
>WE ARE A BETTER TEAM EVEN IF WE HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO PROVE IT THE LAST 3 SEASONS
>>63972188
its harder to make a list of teams that HAVENT won a pennant more recently
>>63972188
>Rays
>Diamondbacks
>Rockies
>Marlins twice
>Twins
>No Doyers
>>63972214
>being a retard falling for the same stupid bait literally every single thread is fun
Autism
>>63972224
Nationals, Mariners, Brewers, Pirates, Orioles, and Cusb
>>63972236
ok, lets break thsi down, DG kun
team A has won the world series in the last 3 years
team B has sported one of the highest ERA's in postseason history, had a first round exit, and won 0 WS in the last 3 years
now which team is better
>>63972239
>doyers in the same category as the cusb in postseason success
Tip top kek
>>63972188
tbch I think we're witnessing the early-middle stages of a drought that will eventually surpass the Cubs' current drought
Reminder that Clayton Memeshaw only knows how to throw 3 (three) pitches
>>63972279
within the next 5 years at least have of those will be added to the list above
>b-but we're good in the regular season
Which teams fan base uses this excuse the most?
>>63972275
>Caring about what other people do this much
Autism
>>63972329
The Gnats are the only one that hasn't sniffed a pennant since 1988. All others have come reasonably close.
>>63972340
The Barves come to mind
>>63972340
Doyers and Tiggers
>>63972349
>caring about what other people care about
Ortism
>>63972280
Let me make this clear for you Gaylord:
Team A and Team Z both play in the same division.......
....... Team A has won the most games in that divisor for the last 3 years.
Through which metric is team Z superior?
>>63972468
the metric of World series trophies, League pennants, and Postseason ERA
>>63972468
Too easy DG.
>there are people who still believe DG/DK isn't just a giants fan false flagging
Daddy Greinke is right
>>63972555
it would make sense since he never actually shows up in dodgers gamethreads unless theyre playing the giants
Dodgers will win world series next season, I promise you. If they don't, I will have sex with Colon
I miss when kekshaw had another entry against the mets and DG went into hiding from embarassment, he'll shut his fat fucking mouth when Grienke signs with the giants.
>>63972591
That's too bad. The Yankees are playing the Dodgers next season, and I was looking forward to seeing his damage control in gamethreads.
Daily reminder that BY DEFINITION a Dynasty must be able to defend it's title.
And missing the playoffs the year of their reign makes them a fluke through every metric.
>>63972468
>>63972521
>GIANTS ARE BETTER TEAM THAN THE DODGERS EVEN THO BOTH TEAMS PLAY IN THE SAME DIVISION AND THE DODGERS HAVE WON 3 TIMES OF THE LAST 3 YEARS.
>>63972591
I go to 45+ games a season
>>63972877
have won what? the division?
who gives a fuck?
What's the point of this tunnel at Safeco Field? I saw players running out of it during Opening Day but does it serve any purpose besides that?
>>63972926
I've seen it used for carting injured players off the field
>>63972990
Oh, maybe it's like a tunnel to the training/medical facility.
>>63972877
>45 games a season
He's a spic janitor there that cleans the mathrooms and works the glory hole
>>63973056
Likely all off the grounds crew equipment and vehicles go through there also.
>>63973216
He's the west coast version of Lexplorer lol
California has FOUR (4) Baseball teams, but comes in 3rd place for World Series wins. Why is California so kuck?
>>63973505
>this topic
Am I the only one who hasn't filtered this faggot?
Dback reveal new unis in 10
>Chris Creamer @sportslogosnet
>I cannot confirm this as legit... but it is consistent with what I saw from a questionable source earlier today
>>63973569
>He can't handle 4chan banter
Kill youself, faggot
>>63973585
that is fucking based
DBACKS LIVE STREAM:
http://m.dbacks.mlb.com/ari/video/v531423783/live-dbacks-new-look-reveal
>>63973569
Go ahead
>>63973585
Am I the only one that liked the old school Jerseys? Maybe it's just nostalgia, but I like those more than the ones they have now.
>>63973569
Go back to reddit if you can't handle the bantz. I believe they have trigger warnings for special snowflakes like you.
>>63971438
They're just putting feelers out. Sf won't get rid of both, nor does Cleveland need middle IFs. They need help in the OF and the corner IF positions. Not to mention they need a big right handed bat. The Tribe won't deal any of their top 3 pitchers unless the deal is loaded to benefit them. Bauer may be a more expendable piece, but they won't get as much in return.
>>63972168
>>63973651
I think it's awful
>>63973714
old school were great because they were unique, but the red, black, and tan work great too
>current (soon to be old) dbacks uniforms were unveiled 9 years ago
damn I feel old
>>63973953
Holy shit senpai
I'm only getting older
>>63971615
>bragging about making the playoffs this year when your team had one of the most embarrassing single game collapses in MLB history causing their elimination
>to a fan of a team who has won 3 world series recently
>one of them against the team you root for
why does no one want cueto
>>63974090
He should have taken d'backs offer, to be desu
>>63974090
He's a fucking MEME WITH A MEME NAME AND A MEME FACE AND A MEME SHIMMY WINDUP
>CANT WAKE UP
>dbacks
>meme uniforms
why dbacks
Did the D-Backs even try?
Guys.
Where is Bryce Harper's ring?
>>63974167
>WAKE ME UP INSIDE
The dark gray is kind of cool
only thing I like is that they use dark gray rather than normal gray
Doyers are going to nab Maeda
the "shoulder pads" effect on the home jerseys are so dumb
aw man the hats have the pattern too
JUST
>>63974293
Don't really get why he's hyped so much, he's a number 3 at best.
>throwbacks
well at least they got one uni right
>>63974430
I actually like those
>>63974430
>Mac
they keep getting worse and worse
>mixing teal with red and black
>home uniform that looks like a road uniform from behind
>>63974481
Please tell me thats the shadow and not the fucking design
>>63974481
>anyone but mariners using teal
MLB need to limit teams to 4 uniforms at once (not including throwbacks)
this is ridiculous
>>63974430
lol no
>>63973783
I dunno, man. Put Belt at 1st, try Kipnis in the OF and put Panik at 2nd, move Carlos to DH full time. That wouldn't be a bad move. Still don't think it's worth dealing Carrasco for though
>last name Funk
>>63974090
>le twerking fast pitch meme man
You tell me
>>63974544
What the fuck? For what pvrpose do they need that many? Jesus
>>63970926
Tiki
>>63971438
There are idiots in every fanbase
>>63971654
I dont like his batting profile, his value depends on high BABIPs. But even then, I'd probably take Altuve and Kipnis over him. Maybe Dozier, and definitely Russell if they play him there.
Still an easy top 10.
does anyone here think that the yankees are just gonna go another offseason without spending
>>63974725
fingers crossed my nigga, I'd only be ok with Heyward or a stupid good signing. We are fine going into next season.
>>63974725
Yankees are broke and decrepit with more holes than a billion dollars could fix and no farm system
>inb4 overrated rotation and non-prospects
>>63974666
Satan, you of all people know why people do dumb things.
$$$
>>63974725
yes
>>63974544
>MLB ever limiting how many special edition jerseys the goyim can purchase
I'm surprised mandatory uniform changes after 5 years hasn't been implemented, y'know, "to keep things fresh"
>>63974725
Yes, 2017 will be a different story.
>>63974937
uniform changes might boost up jersey sales, but having 7 uniforms compared to 4 probably doesn't
So, now that we're done with the meme uniforms, how long until the Dodgers sign Greinke?
>>63975068
by sunday
>>63975068
Never
There are 182 games, having more jerseys makes sense so they dont have to keep wearing the same ones over and over
>>63974544
They look like a fucking minor league team now. That shit with the shoulder colors is AA tier.
>>63975203
162
>>63972926
Its where they bury all the HR balls that die in the gap.
anyone have any baseball compilations to watch
>>63975494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B537BOPgPb4
>>63975618
>the fans start spilling into the field while he's still running
>>63975920
chills man
Fucking Grienke just sign somewhere I'm getting cold around the stove.
Johnny Cueto
Jason Heyward
Yoenis Cespedes
Jeff Samardzija
Ian Desmond
Justin Upton
Zack Greinke
make your picks where these guys will sign
>>63976436
Dodgers
Dodgers.
Dodgers
Dodgers.
Dodgers
Dodgers.
Giants
>>63976479
even los moneybags cant afford 3 of them
>>63976436
Doyers
Cusb
Tardinals
Dbags
White Sux
Memeiners
Jints
>>63976436
Johnny Cueto-Giants
Jason Heyward-Cardinals
Yoenis Cespedes-Yankees
Jeff Samardzija-Diamondbacks
Ian Desmond-Rockies
Justin Upton-Angels
Zack Greinke-Dodgers
>>63976436
Dodgers
White Sox
Angels
Diamondbacks
Dodgers
Cardinals
Giants
>>63976652
>Upton to Cardlels
intwesting
>>63976436
NL
AL
AL
NL
NL
AL
NL
>detoilet
Shitting the bed and choking on it in every sport
>>63977951
Detroit has had some success sports-wise tbqh familia
Michigan, Red Wings, and Pistons have all won in the last 2 decades
Tigers have won 2 pennants
only the loins are really shite
who the fuck is this guy
At this point, I want Greinke to sign with the Indians or some shit just for the hell of it.
>>63978093
The Michigan school people care about gets demolished by Ohio State almost every year
>hockey
Pistons havn't finished above .400 since 08-09
Tigers Choked royally after winning those 2 pennants and are falling apart before our eyes
And the Lions just lost a game to I really like girls man with negative clock time remaining
>>63978810
A guy who would have been a potential HOF candidate if his body didn't disintegrate
>>63978861
>Greinke signs with the Long Island Ducks
>>63978861
I feel like Chris Davis would be a perfect fit for Cleveland.
>>63978952
I see Chris Davis fitting in Houston, but I don't know if they have the money.
>>63978917
Would literally drive to bethpage ballpark to buy season tickets this fucking second
Heyward will look good in a Dodgers uniform
Davis will look good in a Dodgers uniform
>>63978952
I don't think >we have the money, but there's talk about going after Pedro Alvarez, who might not be a bad play. Would love to get Davis though
Stephen Drew will look good in a Dodgers uniform
Rodney will look good in a Dodgers uniform
Miller will look good in a Dodgers uniform
Zunino will look good in a Dodgers uniform
So Doyer fans, if Zanky signs with the Gints, do you think he will get booed a lot at Doyer Stadium? Will this make the rivalry fiercer? I kind of want this to happen just for the keks and goofs and gaffes
Alvarez will look good in a Dodgers uniform
Masterson will look good in a Dodgers uniform
Maeda will look good in a Dodgers uniform
Be good to Donuts for us, Chicago. He is clutch af tbqh. Gonna miss him.
Swisher will look good in a Dodgers uniform
>>63979205
Hypothetically, where would they play him? Sit Gonzalez?
Ryan Howard will look good in a Dodgers uniform
>>63979381
It looks like he's holding some sort of light saber/laser thing in his left hand
Sandoval will look good in a Dodgers uniform
Gonzalez will look good in a Jays uniform
Lohse will look good in a Dodgers uniform
>>63979419
Gonzalez in center
>>63979481
Put him in the rotation
Holland will look good in a Dodgers uniform
Puig will look good in a Jays uniform(not really)
>look good in a Dodgers uniform
could this be the birth of an epic new meme?
Upton will look good in a Dodgers uniform
>>63979531
This meme will look good in a Dodgers uniform
>>63979419
They'll trade Gonzalez to the Marlins for Bonds
>>63979586
bonds is basically the dindu of /mlb/ let's be honest
>tfw the Doyers make the playoffs by winning the NL West and get Gentleman's Swept out of the NLDS versus the Braves.
Cap it
>>63979668
>barves fans gettin' uppity
>>63979712
>Imblying I'm a Braves fan
Giants fan here, I just love the Doyers losing. It's like a winning the Eries each time.
>>63979767
Mest fan here
Did you like when we beat the Doyers in the NLDS?
I liked it familia
>>63979767
Same here, sports fan
>>63979630
>bonds is basically the dindu of /mlb/ let's be honest
>unironically defending Bonds
>thinking he's /mlb/'s dindu darling
>forgetting about Shoeless Joe
Reminder
>>63979945
nobody gives a FUCK about some cheating white racist
>>63979945
nah bonds is the GOAT dindu of all time
the poster boy of the steroid era
you can't beat that
>tfw edinson volquez pasta is dead
hay gaiz wtf am I doing?
Steve Pearce would look good in a Dodgers uniform
Jonny Gomes would look good in a Dodgers uniform
>>63980229
good
he didn't deserve it
brandon crawford is a steroid user
>>63980229
Bryce Harper "where's my ring brah" pasta is better
>>63971447
I was a big fan of him on the Brewers, but I am glad to see him have success and get paid elsewhere. He is a good dude.
>>63980249
Letting go of one of the best framing catchers in the league for no reason apparently.
Kobe Bryant would look good in a Dodgers uniform
JUST
>>63980375
CHOKE
>Shark offered $90mil
So if he doesn't take the supposed $100mil offer, it confirms it was a lie, right?
>>63980445
He isn't even worth anywhere remotely close to 90mil
>>63980469
The GM's today seem dumber than in year's past so nothing surprises me
see: aj preller
>>63980469
But mediocre pitching is expensive now :^)
t. Boras
>>63974605
The big thing there is moving Kipnis. I don't think that's something Tito is willing to move on as Kip is one of the best defensive 2B in the league.
>>63980549
Scott Boras is the #1 worst thing about MLB today and it's not even close.
Huge contracts sink franchises but are borderline necessary to stay competitive. Not entirely necessary but how many Series' have small market teams won lately, sans Royals anyway.
How to fix? I'm not going to say I know what is best. I think there should be some sort of "max contract" established, capping how much someone can make per season. Either that or flat out Salary Cap. Parity in the NFL is more or less there. It would need to be phased in.
>>63980671
boras isn't the problem
the problem is the system
there simply aren't enough measures in place to keep the no-salary cap fair
there can be and should be, but there aren't
>>63980671
>Being a small market fan
>tfw it's not the winter meetings so we don't get major news at 1:30 AM
>>63980783
I feel like it's gotta be so awkward for Preller to be around his peers now.
Like, how embarrassing must it have been to fuck up that badly last offseason?
I just imagine all the front office people from other teams having meetings, laughing at Preller, making jokes about him. He probably will get bullied during breakfast when he's ordering an omelette.
He probably cries at night because he gets picked on by the veterans like Cashman and Beane and Theo and Alderson.
Must feel bad.
>>63978810
Ayyy lmao that's that nigga b-webb who *almost* won like 4 straight Cy Youngs during the royal NL West pitching talent.
>>63980671
Boras belongs in the HoF to be honest
>>63980950
all time GOAT b-webb you mean
>>63980979
All time? No but he was a SAVAGE in his prime.
RIP
>>63980670
On its own it probably wouldn't happen, but if we suddenly found ourselves with a player like Panik, it might happen out of necessity. Either that, or Panik becomes a trade chip, but in that case why not just work out a 3 team deal
>>63980814
Which GM follows him around blasting this on his phone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmeUuoxyt_E
>>63980814
It's amazing how good Jon Daniels is, then Preller becomes a GM and he's god awful
>Petit non-tendered
>>63981816
>>63981881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ivny8t6P6E
>>63981895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu_LaN3ws30
http://m.mlb.com/sf/video/topic/94796514/v36860379/ws2014-gm4-petit-gets-first-reliever-hit-since-1993
>>63981919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfWCN8u7ba4
You're in the dugout and you see these 3 handsome studs walk up to the mound and take turns slapping your DH's ass one by one.
What do you do?
>inb4 Moneyball joke
>>63981940
what kind of fag team uses a DH
this is NL ball, son
Heston will be the new Petit guys chill
>>63981963
In that case, they would be finger banging your ace every at bat.
>>63981981
would he?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hww3kPdK0_0
