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CLE:Browns now open to turning back to Manziel
CIN:Jeremy Hill not on Bengals Wk 13 inj. report
NYJ:Darrelle Revis unlikely to play against G-Men
JAC:Jaguars OC concedes Hurns unlikely to play
CHI:Martellus Bennett practices in full Wednesday
FA:Ravens working out free agent QB Ryan Mallett
CIN:Tyler Eifert (neck) not practicing Wednesday
KC:Charcandrick West practicing fully Wednesday
KC:Chiefs lose LG Ben Grubbs to season-ending IR
DEN:Report: Osweiler to start remainder of season
ATL:Devonta Freeman fully cleared to play Week 13
NO:Report: Dolphins interested in HC Sean Payton
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>>63961156
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Dolphins
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*****THREADLY REMINDERS****

>There is literally nothing wrong with Taylor Martinez

>Gayker Gayfield is a Kliff Babby.

Bama. (11-1)
2. Oklahoma (11-1)
3. Iowa (12-0)
4. Clempson (Very insecure about their school and their ranking btw) (12-0)
5. Northwest Missouri St. (12-0)
6. Jacksonville State Gamecocks (10-1)
7. Harvard (9-1)
8. Slippery Rock (12-1)
9. Houston (11-1)
10. aOSU (11-1)
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threadly reminder that the philadelphia eagles are drafting paxton lynch in the first round of the 2016 NFL draft
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http://espn.go.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals/post/_/id/20334/bengals-andy-dalton-christian-music-pregame-playlist

Is your team's QB a good Christian Man?
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>>63961186
What the fuck is this amateur shit
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>>63961202

Yeah, but only to hide the fact that he's gay.
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>>63961202
Luck is an atheist, which given his glorious beard and autismo behavior should come as a shock to absolutely nobody
I have no clue what Hasselbeck is
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Huge system baby.
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Roger Staubach
Tom Brady
Joe Montana
Bart Starr
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Somewhat a system baby.
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Steve Young
Terry Bradshaw
Aaron Rodgers
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Not much of a system baby.
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Drew Brees
Dan Marino
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Not at all a system baby
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John Elway
Peyton Manning
Brett Favre
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He is the system
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Eli Manning

Prove me wrong
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>>63961202
apparently so
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>your team
Titans
>your favorite player
Marcus Mariota
>your favorite roman emperor
Justinian I
>your least favorite roman emperor
Flavius Honorius
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>>63961242
>Bart Starr

obvious b8, but entertaining b8 nonetheless
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>>63961242
Peyton should be in the he is the system tier
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>>63961242
what does "system" mean to you exactly?
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>>63961242
>Aikman not listed
>Aikman not in his own tier
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>>63961242
>no Unitas or Bradshaw even listed
think Favre should be one step babbier but that's a nitpick
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>>63961272
Aikman wasn't listed because it was a lit of GOATs.
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>>63961274
>No Bradshaw listed

Does your seeing-eye dog type for you as well, or do you have a Braille keyboard?
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>>63961242
>Rodgers
>Eli
>Staubach
>Brees
>Elway
>Starr
>Young
>GOAT contenders
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>>63961256
>Justinian
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>>63961242
>le chuck it downfield because I have no accuracy men.
A winning system is a good system.
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>>63961202
Do you have to ask?
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>>63961282
>list of goats
>Eli, staubach, Bradshaw, young listed

'No'
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>>63961300
>the GOAT not a GOAT contender
you dropped out of high school didn't you
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>>63961346
which one are you referring to
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>your team
Patriots
>your favorite player
Tom Brady
>your favorite civil engineer
Emilio Ambasz
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>>63961366
the obvious GOAT far above the talent, ability, and production levels of all the others
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>your team
Steelers
>favorite player
Maurkuice Pouncey
>Favorite Primarch
Horus
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>>63961242
>no Sammy Baugh or Otto Grahm
>Joe Montana a system baby instead of "not much of a system baby"

Holy shit you suck nigerian dangle
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>>63961382
oh so you mean Staubach
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>>63961382
oh, Elway, gotcha
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>>63961382
gimme a hint
>>63961386
west coast offense is the definition of a system
few people could have performed as well as montana in it, but it's still a system and he very much benefitted from having bill walsh run his offense
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>>63961413
>Montana then takes the Chefs to the AFCC late in his career

Man was a beast
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>>63961413
he routinely did things that Montana couldn't, Marino never did, and that Brady couldn't have done outside Belichick's team
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>>63961277
>Brady throws for 3 TD and nearly 300 yards with no picks against the #1 D in their stadium (one of the most difficult for a visitor to play in) with most of his primary weapons injured and a terrible dline

>LOL BUT RUSSEL AND SMETH THO

Immensely triggered.
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>>63961226
>Luck is an atheist

source?
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>>63961429
Who is Sammy Baugh
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Does anyone have that gif from a Chargers game a while ago, where they're on the verge of pissing away a fourth quarter lead, and Rivers is yelling at Norv Turner while Norv just stares blankly at the field?
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>>63961447
You'll have to be a bit more specific
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>>63961442
just look at the beard m8
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>>63961461
I on the other hand welcome all Rivers pics
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>>63961443

>Le passing yards man
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>>63961422
yeah obviously montana was fucking amazing, he was the comeback kid before pretty much anyone else
he probably would have thrived elsewhere and even managed to win playoff games in kansas shitty
i just think it's pretty fair to say he benefitted from having bill walsh and stickum rice, as would literally everyone
i don't think it takes away at all from his legacy, but he was in the same system for most of his career, which is sort of the point of the original post i think?
>>63961429
still no idea honestly
which era
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>>63961443
He's obviously talking about Johnny Unitas
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>>63961478
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>>63961261
Guy was the perfect game manager. I mean no disrespect by that, but he was an average quarterback that fit perfectly Lombardi's offense.
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>>63961461
I think they were wearing their powder blue uniforms. Rivers is yelling Norv's name. You can clearly see him say "Norv!" with the movement of his mouth.
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>>63961483
Ya but if you say things like that then shitposters cant discredit Brady from being a system Baby like Montana
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>>63961479
>le passing yards man
>le punting yards man
>le interceptions man

>>63961486
>le play like shit in big games man
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>>63961466
Can't refute that
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>>63961274
>Favre

Unless the system is "Throw a half-dozen passes that no other quarterback would/could throw a game," then no, he was part of no system.
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>>63961512
Unitas was the original Peyton. Why are all the Colts' quarterbacks so unclutch?
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>>63961520
>four of those passes are game ending picks
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>>63961512
>>63961525
What are you fucks talking about? Unitas was clutch as fuck in big games
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>>63961483
well the whole /sp/ "babby" thing is ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as handing the GOAT belt to Montana automatically based on ring count

>>63961525
the Colts from the culture level down fold in big games, it's their thing just like the Broncos getting flattened in the superbowl and the Raiders cheating
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>>63961498
Average QBs do not end up with a career postseason passer rating of 105 that stands unbeaten to this day.
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>>63961507
every QB is in a system really
no one just takes the snap and does everything themselves from that point onwards
you can say "this player played with better players and better coaches" but the idea that someone should lose credit for being part of a "system" is a little silly
the point of a team sport is to create a working system in the first place
>>63961525
horses don't have a clutch, it's why we switched to cars
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>>63961541
You need to go back and watch those owls son
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Damn son, even that nigger dude who took over The Daily Show just BTFO of the eagles
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>>63961568
Not hard to do tbqh with you Joe
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>>63961531
Hence the "would throw" part. Favre would throw in to triple coverage four or five times a game.Half the time it's a stupid pick, the other half of the time you were left wondering how the hell he completed it. Still the most entertaining quarterback to watch imo.
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>>63961568
>making fun of the handicapped getting mowed down

Too soon.
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>>63961565
He won 3 NFL championships and an Owl. Please explain how he played like shit in those game.
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>>63961564
I mean originally the "system made the player" thing was about QBs like Montana and Brady who were perhaps a little less flexible but never had to worry about it because their coaches and teams fit their strengths perfectly
it's just that as usual /sp/ tries to distill everything to some logical extreme and comes off as completely retarded for it
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>>63961565
Unitas was banged up as hell during SO III
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I actually like coming to espee again now that there aren't mandrama threads anymore.
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GOAT TEAM

QB : JOE MONTANA
QB2 : TOM BRADY
RB : EARL CAMPBELL
RB : WILLIE GALLIMORE
FB : JIM BROWN
FB : FRANCO HARRIS
WR : JERRY RICE
WR 2 : RANDY MOSS
WR 3 : DON HUTSON
WR 4 : TIM BROWN
WR 5 : LARRY FITZGERALD
WR 6 : CALVIN JOHNSON
TE : DAVE CASPER
TE 2 : MIKE DITKA
TE 3 : GRONK

T : ART SHELL
T : BOB ST. CLAIR
G : GENE UPSHAW
G : WALTER JONES
C : DAVE DALBY

DE : CORNELIUS BENNETT
DT : JOE GREEN
DE : DEACON JONES
LB : LT
LB : JACK HAM
LB : PATRICK WILLIS
LB : TED HENDRICKS

CB : DEION SANDERS
CB : WILLIE BROWN
CB : NIGHT TRAIN LANE
CB : CHARLES WOODSON
CB : DARRELL GREE

S : PAUL KRAUSE
S : RONNIE LOTT
S : DAVID FULCHER
S : ROD WOODSON

K : GEORGE BLANDA
P : RAY GUY

RS : DEVIN HESTER

HC : JOHN MADDEN
OC : DON CORYELL
DC : DICK LEBEAU
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>>63961592
Unitas didn't even start SB III. He had a fucked up shoulder and only came in after it was apparent that Earl Morall was a shit. Fucking youngfags on here need to kill themselves.
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>>63961599
>Moss
>GOAT
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>>63961434
Look at the drive chart mate, Brady had one good drive all night, other than that he either had good field position and was gifted an easy touchdown or got 3-and-out'd
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>>63961551
he also had the completion% record for like a decade after he retired
hes not a GOAT but he was really really good

the alex smith of his time on steroids

>>63961599
I would just have one elite managery qb and then a ridiculous arm talent guy like Favre, Elway or Marino
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>>63961617
>responding to Raidnigger b8
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Sneak's Official Post Week 12 NFL Power Rankings, sponsored by Draft Kingsâ„¢

1. Panthers (+1)
2. Patriots (-1)
3. Cardinals
4. Broncos (+1)
5. Bengals (-1)
6. Seahawks (+2)
7. Vikings (+2)
8. Colts (+3)
9. Chiefs (+3)
10. Steelers (-4)
11. Bills (+3)
12. Texans (+3)
13. Jets (+3)
14. Redskins (+3)
15. Giants (-5)
16. Packers (-9)
17. Falcons (-4)
18. Raiders (+1)
19. Lions (+6)
20. Bears (+6)
21. Rams (-3)
22. Bucs (-2)
23. Dolphins (-2)
24. Chargers (+6)
25. Jaguars (-3)
26. Ravens (+2)
27. Eagles (-4)
28. Saints (-4)
29. Cowboys (-2)
30. 49ers (-1)
31. Titans
32. Browns
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>>63961637
Are the Dolphins the end of the mediocre teams or the beginning of the bad teams?
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>>63961599
>Moss
>Fitz
Above the TRUE GOAT (pic related)

>No Winston
>Gronk
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>>63961612
I know. I'm calling out the dumbass that called out his performance in big games.
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>>63961637
How are the Falcons 17 when they have lost like 6 in a row?
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>>63961565
i mean he completed the first ever two-minute drill in an NFL championship to force overtime and win the game by driving downfield again in a game known as "The Greatest Game Ever Played"
he didn't have a perfect record in championships like montana but he wasn't spectacularly unclutch or anything
>>63961589
i mean the true greats evolve over time i think
montana and brady no doubt benefitted from their circumstances early on, but as they matured and progressed i think it would be silly to keep referring to them as such
decent players can play well within a system, but great ones make the system better
>>63961599
your halfbacks are retarded and i love me some fitz but you can't leave TO off that list
also
>no winslow/gonzo at TE
>walter jones at guard for some reason
>dave fucking dalby
>no reggie white at DE
>patrick willis
>ted hendricks
>willie brown
like i get that you're a raiders fan but cmon
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>>63961637
>Packers not 32
Off your game, Sneak...
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>people dont think Moss was literally GOAT tier

Literally the single most talented receiver I ever had the pleasure of watching.

When he tried

If he wasnt such a lazy piece of shit and an egotistical "all about me" player, he literally could have been the GOAT

I mean, he out up monster numbers with Dante fucking Culpepper
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>>63961646
I'm really not sure.

>>63961656
I dunno. They keep dropping so if they keep losing they'll go down more.

>>63961663
Just wait until the Lions beat them on TNF :^)
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What happened to Gurley? He's been complete shit recently
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>>63961657
Don't even reply to this shit >>63961599
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So, the Raiders might not be able to move to LA because of Levi's Stadium.
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>>63961679
>Moss was literally GOAT tier
who on earth thinks this is true?
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>>63961679
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>>63961657
yeah and there's always going to be a handful of QBs who pushed their style of quarterbacking to a greater extent, the way Elway did with the escape and the 9000 yard bomb across the field, Marino with his signature throwing mechanics, and yeah, Montana and Brady both with the two-minute drill in different eras
I don't know why so many QBs who should be known for that, are completely forgotten by /sp/ and the media, though
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>>63961691
>mfw this dumbass piece of shit retard thinks it isnt

Lol

Bet you think Odell Kekham Jr is the next Jerry Rice
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moss was the goat in my honest opinion
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>people who think Lynn Swann wasn't a top 10 WR of all time
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>>63961700
fuck, I meant ">Moss wasn't literally GOAT tier" in response that original post about people who apparently don't think he is GOAT-tier.
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>>63961683
the rams have four plays
1. gurley up the middle
2. gurley slightly less up the middle
3. austin reverse
4. pick
>>63961687
i'm gonna make my own so that i can avoid actually studying
>>63961693
i'm sad people forget about fouts when it comes to QBs who changed the game
he did things at the QB position no one else had done before
it was with the help of coryell and his insane weaponry, true, but he was the center of a revolutionary passing offense and people give him no credit at all
>>63961710
>le play for the steelers and go to the hall of fame man
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>>63961724
he was the only Steeler with the hands to manage all of the lombardis he won
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>>63961710
Shut the fuck up Lynn. It took you 20 years to get into the HOF.
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>Wilson throws 2 TDs to not Jimmy Graham
>Jimmy goes down with a season-ending injury
>Wilson throws 3 more TDs after Jimmy leaves
>"how will Seattle play without Jimmy Graham?"
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>>63961712
Ok well then forget everything I just insulted you with lad
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>>63961691
Moss is a piece of shit, but he's a piece of shit that could catch any football. Like anon said, terrible work ethic and off the field problems but he's easily the best natural athlete at WR ever.
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>>63961710

>TOP 10 GREATEST NFL WRs
an absolutely not definitive list

1. Don Hutson
2. Jerry Rice
3. Randy Moss
4. Terrell Owens
5. Marvin Harrison
6. Calvin Johnson
7. Tim Brown
8. Steve Largent
9. James Lofton
10. Isaac Bruce
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>>63961550
>the Raiders cheating

I think that undersells it a bit. The Patriots cheat, the Raiders scorch the earth.
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>>63961774

>>>/trash/
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>>63961787
>Raiders
>cheating

Based Carr would never allow it
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>>63961787
Historically, the Raiders cheat.

Now, not so much. The present day Raiders have virtually nothing in common with the Raiders of old because they've been so shit for so long, if you didn't know better you'd think they went through a situation similar to the Browns and an expansion team is running around with the Raiders name.

The Pats basically cheat as much as the Raiders used to but the Raiders were proud of it and the Pats pretend to be the golden boys that nobody outside of New England thinks they are.
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Post em
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>>63961774
>Isaac "I wasnt the best wr on my team" Bruce
>no nice guy lary Fitz
Andre Johnson has a case to make as well
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>>63961764
>Moss is a piece of shit, but he's a piece of shit that could catch any football
don't I know it, being a Pats fan. except for one... fuckin' bad feels every time I think about that play. Fuck you Corey Webster.
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>>63961839
Anon, your sentence is very impolite to me and I'd prefer it if you could rewrite it above at least a 60 level of politeness before you reply to me again.
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>>63961808
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>>63961883
Eat shit.
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>>63961895
Your reply is even more offensive then your previous one anon, and I do hope that you could improve it before you reply back.
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>>63961852
I put in Bruce over Holt (unless you're thinking of another WR) because he had a better overall career whereas Torry petered out earlier as GSOT began to as a pseudo-dynasty.

As for Fitz, I know he's been a league-wide top-5 receiver throughout most of his career but I just haven't seen enough of him to place him on the list.
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redpill me on Cam Newton
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>>63961903
You're a cunt.
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>>63961919
Not a Cards fan, but it makes me sad thinking Fitz wasted half his career without a QB.
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>>63961926
overrated
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>>63961926
he's black
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>>63961873
>matt light
>logan mankins
>dan koppen

come back bb's, pls
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QB1: Brett Favre
QB2: Tom Brady
RB1: Walter Payton
RB2: Barry Sanders
RB3: Adrian Peterson
FB: Jim Brown
WR1: Jerry Rice
WR2: Randy Moss
WR3: Terrell Owens
WR4: Calvin Johnson
TE1: Kellen Winslow
TE2: Tony Gonzalez
LT: Anthony Munoz
LG: Gene Upshaw
C: Mike Webster
RG: John Hannah
RT: Jonathan Ogden

DE: Reggie White
DT: Joe Greene
DE: Deacon Jones
LB: Lawrence Taylor
LB: Ray Nitschke
LB: Derrick Brooks
LB: Jack Lambert
CB: Deion Sanders
CB: Darrelle Revis
CB: Rod Woodson
CB: Darrell Green
S: Ronnie Lott
S: Ed Reed
S: Brian Dawkins
S: Ken Houston

K: Nate Kaeding
P: Ray Guy

KR: Gale Sayers
PR: Devin Hester

HC: Bill Belichick
OC: Bill Walsh
DC: Buddy Ryan
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>>63961926
memes
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>>63961637
>Packers not 32
Shit list
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>>63961926
he's a great QB that fantasy football fags don't give credit to because
>MUH STATS
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>>63961941
I feel that feel

>>63961946
>QB1: Favre
intozetrash.jpg
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Please tell me why the Titans will not get the number 1 pick in the upcoming draft.

I am a Titans fan btw. Also why does nobody seem to remember them getting BTFO by the Browns earlier this year?
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Is Austin Davis the next elite QB?
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>>63961928
He could have left like, 4 or 5 years ago but instead decided to re-sign with the Cards even though it was clear that they had no fucking idea what to do at QB after Warner left.

He did it to himself.
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>>63961928
we've got an opening here in NE if he wants a ring.
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>>63962007
What if he want s a legit ring though?
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GOATS OF EVERY TEAM TEAM

QB : MONTANA (SF)
QB2 : TOM BRADY (NE)
QB3 : DREW BREES (NO)
RB : BARRY SANDERS (DET)
RB : WALTER PAYTON (CHI)
RB : LADAINIAN TOMLINSON (SD)
RB : ADRIAN PETERSON (MIN)
WR : CLIFF BRANCH (OAK/L.A.)
WR : ISAAC BRUCE (STL)
WR : LYNN SWANN (PIT)
WR : DREW PEARSON (DAL)
WR : KEENAN MCCARDEL (JAX)
TE : TONY GONZALEZ (KC)
TE : SHANNON SHARPE (BAL)
TE : KEITH JACKSON (PHI)
LT : DUANE BROWN (TEX)
LG : ALBERT EDWARDS (WAS)
C : KENT HULL (BUF)
RG : ANTHONY MUNOZ (CIN)
RT : BOB WHITFIELD (ATL)

LDE : JOHN ABRAHAM (NYJ)
RDE : REGGIE WHITE (GB)
NT : RAY CHILDRESS (HOU OIL)
OLB : LT (NYG)
ILB : ZACH THOMAS (MIA)
ILB : MIKE CURTIS (IND)
OLB : DERRICK BROOKS (TB)

CB : SIMARI ROLLE (TENN)
CB : CHAD COTA (CAR)
CB : SHAWN SPRINGS (SEA)
FS : STEVE AWTATER (DEN)
SS : LARRY WILSON (ARZ)

>IMPLYING SPECIAL TEAMS
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>>63962035
White ultimately belongs to philly
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>>63962051
I WANTED TO PUT WHITE IN AT DE BUT I HAD KEITH JACKSON AS A PHILLY PLAYER, SO I USED HIM AS GB, PRETTY SNEAKY HUH?
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>>63962035
decent. although
>Rice not at WR
he is the literal GOAT of the modern era, and is greater than his competition (Moss, TO) than Montana is (Brady et al)
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>>63961801
perfect metaphor for the ass pain chiefs cause san diego and oakland fans
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>>63962051
Ehh...
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>>63962035
Texans should get jj watt, I mean the guy is the best pass defensive player of his generation.
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>>63962082
he was better and played longer in Philly than GB
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>>63962087
He hasn't played long enough yet
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>>63962035
>Drew Pearson
don't you mean Michael Irvin if you're going with Dallas?
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>>63962035
Panthers fan here, who the fuck is Chad Cota?
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>>63962092
and Duane Brown is greater? c'mon man
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>>63962118
>
Lmgtfy.com/Chad Cota
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>>63962118
>
>>63962127
>

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Chad+Cota
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>>63962035
but John Abraham wasted his entire career in Atlanta
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>>63962035
>cliff branch over Tim Brown

nope
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>>63962118
Muhsin Muhammad at WR, Mel Blount at CB?
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Why does everyone think the panthers are a goat team when they've only played mediocre teams this season while cam throws ints and lets his D get him out of trouble
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>>63962164
because they're the only undefeated team left in the NFL
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>>63962180
Football up ass
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>>63962164
nobody thinks this, we all know they're bound to slip up at some point. plus
>black QBs
>SB wins
pick one. inb4 >Doug Williams
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>>63962186
Cordell Stewart
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>>63962035
switch arizona and tennessee and put ken houston at safety and aeneas williams at cornerback
switch tackle with one of the WRs and put andre johnson in for houston and switch guard and tackle
anthony munoz at tackle, russ grimm (WAS) at one guard, and larry allen at the other
switch LDE with CB to put revis for the jets and peppers for carolina
switch nose tackle and another cb to put cortez kennedy for seattle and switch that cb with RT to put bruce matthews on the line and deion sanders at cb

QB: Montana (SF)
QB2: Brady (NE)
QB3: Brees (NO)
RB: Barry (DET)
RB: Payton (CHI)
RB: LT running edition (SD)
RB: Beaterson (MIN)
WR: Brown (OAK)
WR: Swann (PIT)
WR: Johnson (HOU)
WR: Smith (JAX)
TE: Gonzo (KC)
TE: Newsome (CLE)
LT: Munoz (CIN)
LG: Allen (DAL)
C: Saturday (IND)
RG: Grimm (WAS)
RT: Matthews (TEN)

LDE: Peppers (CAR)
RDE: White (PHI)
NT: Kennedy (SEA)
OLB: LT 1.0 (NYG)
ILB: Lewis (BAL)
ILB: Nitschke (GB)
OLB: Brooks (TB)

CB: Williams (ARZ)
CB: Revis (NYJ)
CB: Sanders (ATL)
FS: Atwater (DEN)
SS: Houston (HOU)

HC: Shula (MIA)

did i miss any team?
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>>63962192
>backups
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>>63962186
Moon deserved one he just played for the fucking Oilers
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>>63962196
why is the Steeler representative not on defense in your list? they've have tons of great eligible players
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>>63962208
And the Vikes
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>>63962208
>deserved
oh well. Larry Fitzgerald deserves a ring, too, but he's stuck with the Cardinals when he could have gone for one with a better team. At least he's got a good shot this year, provided (finger crossed) Glasson Palmer stays upright and healthy.
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Sporadic reminder that Drew Brees has the highest career completion percentage of all time.
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>>63962196
I DID NOT SPEND ALL THAT TIME RESEARCHING AND ERROR CHECKING JUST TO HAVE MY LIST STOLEN
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>>63962196
oh shit lol buffalo
thurman thomas at one of the HB positions, add another CB and put night train lane for detroit
also i think boselli at LT for jacksonville and johnson at WR for cincy just works better
>>63962213
i didn't fuck with the ones on the original list that were decent, but you could easily switch nitschke out for lambert and put hutson at WR for green bay, idc
>>63962238
mine's better tbqh
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>>63962196
Your list has a fatal error. Should be MIA-Marino, NE-Belichick. I do think Brady is better than Marino, the distance between Shula and Belichick is much greater than the distance between Brady and Marino.
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Why does everyone want a team in LA again? They lost two teams because they couldn't fill the seats, why try again? Am I missing something here?
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>>63962236
Think this will be Brees last season?
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>>63962196
>lynn swann
>not mean joe green

If you MUST have a Steeler WR than John Stallworth or Hines Ward are infinitely better than softy swann
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>>63962265
>Are
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>>63962265
no. next year will/should
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>>63962263
St Louis is even worse
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>>63962252
fine by me

Official GOATs of every team list:

QB: Montana (SF)
QB2: Marino (MIA)
QB3: Brees (NO)
RB: Payton (CHI)
RB: Tomlinson (SD)
RB: Peterson (MIN)
RB: Thomas (BUF)
WR: Brown (OAK)
WR: Hutston (GB)
WR: Johnson (HOU)
WR: Johnson (CIN)
TE: Gonzo (KC)
TE: Newsome (CLE)
LT: Boselli (JAX)
LG: Allen (DAL)
C: Saturday (IND)
RG: Grimm (WAS)
RT: Matthews (TEN)

LDE: Peppers (CAR)
RDE: Jones (LA/STL)
NT: Kennedy (SEA)
OLB: Taylor (NYG)
ILB: Lewis (BAL)
ILB: Lambert (PIT)
OLB: Brooks (TB)

CB: Williams (ARZ)
CB: Revis (NYJ)
CB: Sanders (ATL)
CB: Lane (DET)
FS: Atwater (DEN)
SS: Houston (HOU)
SS: Dawkins (PHI)

HC: Belichick (NE)

i forgot the rams the first time so i had to fuck around with things again
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>>63962265
Only if Payton leaves.
We dont have a good replacement yet, Luke is old and injured, Grayson looks good but needs more time, that whatshisname we signed to fill the roster is not gonna be a starter.

Plus, I hope not, I want to make the trip to see him play at home.
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>>63962291

You're not only Euro Saints fan! :D GEAUX SAINTS
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>>63962291
>expecting Josh McCown's brother to be good
what were they thinking in signing him as the second-stringer?
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>>63962273
Lynn Swann, SOFT
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>>63962296
Fug yeah Slobro


Take refugees pls
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>>63961986
I think he wants to stay in Arizona because he loves this state and franchise, and we love him back.

It would blow immensely if he left at all, but I wouldn't blame him/love him less.
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>>63962297
He was breddy gud vs Carolina.
He isnt gonna win any championships but I like him.
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>>63962298
s-o-f-T
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>>63962325
>yfw you are about to sneeze
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>>63962343
Kek
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>>63962325
Lynn Swann is definitely soft spoken but I don't know if he was soft while playing.

Best Swann moment since he was before my time was watching the interview on MNF when Mike Pantazi jumped out of the stands and caught the field goal.

>you now remember the great hands of Mike Pantazi from the Northside of Chicago

I Love it Baby!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7Oim0Mzwg
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>>63961958
Strength of schedule

We had a harder schedule so we're technically a better team or something like that

I think it's bullshit too, but the Titans will wind up going like 4-12 anyways
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>>63962405
Please have a seat right over there

Titans will be Lucky if they win One more game
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>>63961261
>>63961551
They do when they play on a team with 11 other HOFers, the most in the owl era.
>>
>these lists of goat teams
>not having watt and refrigerator perry on D

>
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>>63961156
>osweiler the starter
baka desu senpai
>>
Krabs is such a kind poster and it makes me sad that asshole bandwagoners like Mayo and MileHigh get to win while good men like Krabs suffer ;_;
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>>63962516
shut the fuck up Krabs
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>>63961599
WR: Jerry Rice
WR: Marvin Harrison
TE: Tony Gonzalez
T: Anthony Muñoz
T: Willie Roaf
G: Larry Allen
G: Randall McDaniel
C: Bruce Matthews
QB: Peyton Manning
FB: Tony Richardson
TB: Barry Sanders

DE: Reggie White
DE: Bruce Smith
DT: Kevin Williams
DT: Warren Sapp
ILB: Ray Lewis
OLB: Lawrence Taylor
OLB: Derrick Brooks
CB: Rod Woodson
CB: Deion Sanders
SS: Brian Dawkins
FS: Ed Reed

K: David Akers
P: Darren Bennett
RS: Devin Hester

GM: Bill Polian
HC: Bill Belichick
OC: Sean Payton
DC: Buddy Ryan
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>>63962545
one player per team, senpai
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>>63961599
>3-4 defense
>6 WR's
>only 5 offensive linemen
>only 4 LBers
>only one DT

Nigger get out of here.
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>>63962035
>WRs
Jerry Rice (49ers)
Marvin Harrison (Colts)
Randy Moss (Vikings)

>TE
Tony Gonzalez (Chiefs)

>OL
Bruce Matthews (Titans)
Tony Boselli (Jaguars)
Walter Jones (Seahawks)
Larry Allen (Cowboys)
Gene Upshaw (Raiders)
Anthony Muñoz (Bengals)

>QB
John Elway (Broncos)

>RB
Barry Sanders (Lions)
Jim Brown (Browns)
Marshall Faulk (Rams)

>DL
Reggie White (Packers)
Warren Sapp (Buccaneers)
Julius Peppers (Panthers)
Dan Hampton (Bears)
J.J. Watt (Texans)
Bruce Smith (Bills)
Jason Taylor (Dolphins)

>LB
Rickey Jackson (Saints)
Lawrence Taylor (Giants)
Junior Seau (Chargers)
Ray Lewis (Ravens)

>DBs
Deion Sanders (Falcons)
Brian Dawkins (Eagles)
Rod Woodson (Steelers)
Darrell Green (Redskins)
Darrelle Revis (Jets)

>K/P
Adam Vinatieri (Patriots)
Ben Graham (Cardinals)
>>
Well, who is ready for a 2016 of Austin Davis!? HUH!? FUCK YEAH!!
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>>63962567
Nah, check again m8 >>63961599
>>
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Ben Roethlisberger
5. Philip Rivers
6. Andrew Luck
7. Matt Ryan
8. Russell Wilson
9. Tony Romo
10. Cam Newton
11. Joe Flacco
12. Carson Palmer
13. Ryan Tannehill
14. Andy Dalton
15. Eli Manning
16. Matt Stafford
17. Derek Carr
18. Blake Bortles
19. Alex Smith
20. Teddy Bridgewater
21. Ryan Fitzpatrick
22. Jay Cutler
23. Jameis Winston
24. Marcus Mariota
25. Tyrod Taylor
26. Kirk Cousins
27. Brock Osweiler
28. Brian Hoyer
29. Nick Foles
30. Colin Kaepernick
31. Austin Davis
32. Mark Sanchez
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>>63962715
no reason to put Osweiler there
if you're just going by how few games he's played, don't list him
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>>63962715
>what is "current NFL starters in the order of my homolust for their gigantic cocks"
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>>63962577
>this is the best bait R****ns fans can come up with
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>>63962715
>26. Kirk Cousins
>has had highest passer rating in last 5 games
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>>63962577
You mean this guy who is coming to Cleveland?
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>>63962756
>Kaepernick
>NFL starter
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>>63962762
>"Only look at the last 20% of his resume m8, just pretend the other 80% doesn't exist."
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>>63962768
>getting hyped about drafting a benchwarmer
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>>63962715
>Cam Newton
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>>63962830
>this mad
>>
>Brett Favre had a drug problem, cleaned up, and went on to have a great career

>Manziel has a drug problem, refuses to clean up, may have no career.
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>>63962846
Once the Cowboys trade for him and draft Derrick Henry he will lead them to at least 3 owls in the next 6 years.
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>>63962845
>mad at a qb who primarily relies on his defense, has some of the worst stats, and padded his win record off mostly shit teams

Nope. Will enjoy your tears when the Panthers are one and done in the playoffs though
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>>63962856
I think cowboys fans' delusion is getting too serious, is there a hotline to call for this
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>>63962858
>MUHFUGGUN STATS!!!!!!
KEK
E
K
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We going to talk about Gabbert any?

he's actually playing really well and not losing the games for the 49ers
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>>63962809
Still better than anything we have now.
>>
Browns new GM and HC prediction:
GM
>Danny Wuerffel

HC
>Al Golden


Because why the fuck not?
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>>63962907
>better than anything we have now
>will have to sit behind Davis or McCown for 2-3 years
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>>63962918
>implying McCown won't literally be in a coffin due to injury midway next season
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>>63962875
>Lowest stats

STATS DON'T MATTER
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>>63962916
GM: Ray Farmer
HC: Mike Pettine
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>>63962929
Haslem will can them, more than likely. We will go around the carousel again. The Factory of Sadness chugs along, operating at peak efficiency.
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>>63962926
HIGHEST STATS DO MATTER

>le fantasy football guru face
>eats hot pockets
>Fan Duel and Draft Kings get shut down
>he has to go back to doing 4free
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>>63962933
>The Mistake by the Lake
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>>63962946
That was Municipal Stadium.
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>>63962926
>He's a stats guy
>on the internet
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>>63962946
And I had some great memories watching 4 games there as a kid

>Kosar
>Metcalf
>Michael Jackson
>Clay Matthews
>Eric Turner
>Matt Stover
Really do miss that damn place.
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>>63962951
It can apply to anything that is both an instance of grave misfortune and adjacent to a sizable inland body of water. So:

[x] Municipal Stadium
[x] First Energy Stadium
[x] the Cleveland Browns
[x] the City of Cleveland, Ohio
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>>63962940
>Carson Palmer has the best qb ranking in the league and has only lost two games
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>Lions badly need to draft an OT

>They'll probably draft a running back with the first pick
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>>63962987
I like your effort. Could use more work, though.
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>>63963012
They'll draft Tunsil out of Ole Miss.
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>>63962993
>10th best scoring D, 5th best total D in the league
>>
>>63963028
Doubt they'll be high enough, lot of teams probably going OL and DL this year.
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>>63963036
Decker will be available somewhere in there. They'll probably grab a good O-lineman.
>>
Why doesn't the NFL just make two new franchises in LA instead of having to move the Rasms or Chorgers?
>>
>>63963294

so you'd just have one division with 6 teams and the rest with 4 teams or what's your plan in this division wise, playing schedule wise and so on
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YOU
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LIKE
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>>63963012
Trade Stafford already
They'd get mid 2 first for him
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WOMEN
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>>63963012
Tunsil's gonna be gone by the time you pick in the 7-10 range, but Ronnie Stanley out of ND should still be there for you.
>>
>>63963463
>>63963028
>>63963012
>next year's draft talk during the season

jesus christ is there really nothing else to talk about here?
>>
>>63962768
Your franchise is actually insane if Bosa's available but they reach on a QB instead
>>
>>63963466
For teams with less than 5 wins, pretty much. You can't sit there and tell me 49ers fans are more excited about watching Gabbert finish the season than they are about having a shot at either Goff or Bosa.
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>>63963482
make a thread for it then, you sad bastards
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niggers
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>The "sale" NFL Shop had was marking everything down 20%
Holy fucking shit what a bunch of kikes. Why the fuck can't they just charge like $50 for everything during Christmas, they'd still be making a huge profit. Do they expect anyone to believe anything they make costs more than $5 to produce with Chinese children weaving it?
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>>63963601
Yeah it's pretty expensive. I paid 110 dollars for my jersey. Also spent like 20 bucks for next day shipping since I was about to go to a game and they didnt ship it for like 2 weeks. NFL is all about dat money mang
>>
>>63963451
>have dog shit for QB for 50 years
>"you should trade away the young QB who actually shows potential"
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was there a more disappointing fantasy pick this year?
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>>63963451
>trade Stafford
>get a first rounder
>draft a bust
we all know that's how it would end
>>
>>63963451
then we'd be stuck with safety dan and ricky fucking stanzi for QBs
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>>63963451
>Loins trade Stafford for 1st rounder
>Draft Lynch
>Literally move from one gunslinger with accuracy issues to the next

It doesn't make sense, but it seems like the most >Loins thing they could do
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>>63963702
Staffy has been getting better with accuracy. Its been going up every year for like 3 years and is currently at 65% on the season. In fact hes actually having a pretty decent season all together if you look at it statistically.
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>>63963714
Exactly. If the Lions just give him o-linemen to help keep him upright and an actual secondary, the Lions can win 10+ games a season for pretty much every year of decent Megatron they have left.
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Eagles CB Byron Maxwell: Sam Bradford, not Tom Brady, is NFL's best QB
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>>63963601
>expecting anything different from the official league store
Same deal with me at the MLB shop. my Pedro Martinez Hall of Fame jersey was $100, and I don't even give a fuck. It wasn't going to be available anywhere else.

>>63963631
>ever paying for next-day shipping
wew lad
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>>63963724
Yeah really bums me out. I honestly feel like Lombardi sabotaged the team. Put together a pretty decent roster and he just throws it all under the bus so he could run his meme Saints offense despite the fact that it was the opposite of what the Lions offense should be on all levels. Horizontal routes everywhere with big guys like CJ, Ebron and a Gunslinging QB. Zone blocking with an offensive line completely experienced in man blocking. Cooter SO FAR seems like he actually knows what this offense needs.
>>
>>63963755
I got it refunded since they fucked it up but yeah. I needed it in time for the game, probably should had bought it earlier.
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