La liga domination , When will it end?
>>63914980
probably when this international FIFA/UEFA corruption investigation get's fully underway
When the obsession with goals and assists as the be all and end as a sign of the best player ends, and some defenders or midfielders actually get onto the 3 man shortlist.
>La liga
You mean Barcelona and Real?
>>63915029
There was a goalkeeper on last year's shortlist and a midfielder on 4 of the last 7 shortlists. Stop acting like they never get on it.
Besides, a defender will never have the same individual impact on a team as a striker/winger/attacking midfielder
>>63915007
>>63915029
>>63915030
Vardy next year
>>63915050
>Besides, a defender will never have the same individual impact on a team as a striker/winger/attacking midfielder
>>63914980
I'm sorry but Real Madrid isn't dominating much 2bh
Think Rolando and Lionel have dominated La Liga, just wait till Vardy arrives, tears up the place and bangs in 40+ a season.
>>63914980
When Real and Barca aren't the 2 most popular clubs in South America anymore. They're the default club for latinos everywhere. It doesn't matter how prestigious or rich your club is, if your best player is latino and Real/Barca come knocking then he'll leave.
>>63915148
anglobutthurt the post
>>63915145
vardy, kane and bale will be the new MSN I tell you
>>63914980
I give it 3 years.
>>63915127
Buffon, Zambrotta, Grosso and Materazzi were as important as him desu
>>63915437
No Cannavaro was a step above, which is why he won the ballon d'or.
>>63915029
the fuck is this
how come are you butthurt about goals and assists, I can't believe it
lel liga has some of the worst defenders in the world, I would take most starting MLS center backs over the trash that starts for lel liga teams that aren't Real, Barca, or Athletic(o)
its so easy to score goal vs. the Eibars of the world that these candidates stats are meaningless.
Jamie Vardy would score 40 goals in the lel liga. This is fact and cannot be disputed.
>>63915372
Vardy is good yes but the team is built artound him doing what he does, if he really does go to Real Madrid (which I doubt very much) they will have to change their system to get the best out of him otherwise they are just wasting money
>>63915582
Eibar showed to have good defense yesterday. Tactically solid team.
>>63915582
epl has some of the worst defenders in the world, I would take most starting MLS center backs over the trash that starts for epl teams that aren't City, United or Arsenal
its so easy to score goal vs. the Newcastles of the world that these candidates stats are meaningless.
Aritz Aduriz would score 40 goals in the epl. This is fact and cannot be disputed.
See how easy it is to make ridiculous claims based on absolutely fucking nothing?
Can't really be considered league domination when only two teams have had players in the top 3 since the beginning of the Ballon d'Or.
For comparison England have had players from 9 different clubs come in the top 3.
>>63915607
Pretty much every forward who moved to La Liga from the EPL has increased their goal output. Can't say the same for the reverse.
>>63914980
realistically, probably shortly after the effects of the PL's new TV deal begin to bear fruit.
>>63915582
Real madrid world champions
Barcelona european champions
Sevilla europa league champions
MLS =Elephant Graveyard
still bleeding from the wound, I'm enjoying the butthurt.
>>63915607
Yeah but "EPL has some of the worst defenders in the world" sounds absolutely ridiculous
It's generally accepted that La Liga has worse defending than England and Italy. Maybe it's a stereotype but when people think of La Liga they generally don't associate it with "good defending"
>>63915582
Lol at your delusion. MLS is série c tier
>>63915665
>It's generally accepted
you read it on reddit so it must be true
>>63915665
tackling is not regarded as a worthy skill in spain if you can believe that, some spic footballer said it in an interview
>>63915692
>on reddit
That's an awfully big assumption, viado. You seem to be projecting your use of Plebbit onto me. I play soccer, I watch soccer, I am friends with people that watch soccer (including Brazilians and English) and I bet my life the majority of them would agree EPL has better defending than Lel Liga.
>>63915665
>Yeah but "EPL has some of the worst defenders in the world" sounds absolutely ridiculous
No it doesn't, Coloccini might be legit the worst starting defender in European top flights and some of the defending from teams like Bournemouth, Newcastle, Sunderland or Aston Villa is just pure comedy.
>It's generally accepted that La Liga has worse defending than England and Italy
based on what exactly? because most of the time a spanish team faces an english team in european competition it's the spanish team that plays better defense and concedes less goals.
I don't know why people seem so confident that Newcastle is a better team than Malaga or Las Palmas. Let Newcastle come to Camp Nou and they'd concede 5+ as well
>>63915713
Some years ago maybe. Did you watch the PL in the last two seasons?
>>63915713
Nah bro, EPL defending is shit
The reason you don't see as many high scoring games is because , surprise, EPL attacking isn't that great either.
La Liga teams only give up a lot of goals to the top 3, besides that they're not too bad defensively.
>>63915713
>tf
>tp
>"soccer"
>but muh friendos say
pathetic. You've never even watched Eibar and are talking shit about them.
Roma got trashed 6 to 1 by Barcelona, could have been worse, while Real Sociedad honorably lost 4-0, and you come here to praise serie A defending over La Liga.
>>63915713
>this retarded american
stop making us look bad
>>63915665
English teams defend more tenaciously but they arent very good at tactical defending
they give way too much space and arent as disciplined
when English teams go to Europe, they get trashed and concede way more than the opposition
the English game relies way too much on physicality
>>63915784
>>63915760
>>63915746
>>63915743
You plebs are going to sit here and unironically tell me La Liga has better defending than EPL.
Get the fuck out of here
>>63915746
Barcelona isnt a good example of a defensively sound team, they're actually really shaky on the Defense and rely really heavily on their opposition to sit back so they can control possession, granted they kinda gotten better but theyre still really weak when theyre opponents press hard and dont play defensively
>>63915663
>>63915682
MLS' best teams (Impact, Crew, Sounders) would easily beat Juventus, Real Madrid etc..
>>63915804
>I have no argument!
We knew. Now fuck off, retard.
>>63915804
>I have no real arguments other than my unverifiable delusion that a team like Sunderland is somehow better defensively than a team like Malaga
GTFO
>>63915784
>english teams get trashed in europe
england is historically one of the most dominant forces in european club football retard
>>63915860
>historically
So it has come to that, we've officially become the Liverpool of Europe
>>63915848
Sunderland is one of the worst teams in the prem dickhead, at least come up with a credible comparison if you want to be taken seriously in a football discussion
>>63915869
But Liverpool is the best team in England this last decade.
>>63915827
>MLS' best teams (Impact, Crew, Sounders) would easily beat Juventus, Real Madrid etc..
>>63915869
chelsea won the uefa and european cup in back to back seasons only a few short years ago, how old are you 12?
>>63915827
here's a (You) family
>>63915878
And Malaga is literally 18th in La Liga. At least know what you're talking about if you want to be taken seriously in a football discussion.
if la liga defenders are so great compared to prem ones how come forwards that come to the prem from la liga never score as many goals but when it happens in reverse they always score more?
>>63915900
Malaga finished 9th last season, where did sunderland finish m8?
>>63915901
show me an example for the reverse that is not CR7
>>63915923
>don't include the one that destroys my argument
my sides
>>63915888
>not long ago 3 EPL teams in CL semi final was the norm
>right now 1 fluky win followed by 3 years with just 1 semi finalist (2 of those years we didn't even have a quarter finalist) is considered good
>>63915916
Then compare Sunderland with Deportivo. It's just as retarded and unverifiable
>>63915930
CR7 is a special case (and the only one I can think of) because he changed role. of course he scores more while playing as a poacher
>>63915933
>It's just as retarded and unverifiable
I didn't compare the two in the firdst place
>>63915923
Kanoute
Vela
Forlan
>>63915274
>anglobutthurt the post
But I'm latino
>>63915029
>the obsession with goals and assists
But football is about scoring more goals than the opponent
>>63915810
I was comparing Roma's defense (a title contender in Italy) with Real Sociedad.
Tactically the Spanish teams are much better, both offensively and defensively.
>>63915582
do not fucking mam yo, MLS defenders can't even deal with Liga MX forwards
>>63915050
>Besides, a defender will never have the same individual impact on a team as a striker/winger/attacking midfielder
A rigorous analysis of the logic fail in this statement will show you are a dumbass.
>>63915983
and conceding less
>>63916010
If you score more than your opponent you win
fuck farsa, fuck mandril and fuck those three faggots
>wins the treble and club world cup in 2013
>the world cup in 2014
>revolutions the position that he plays
>gets the 3rd place just because penaldo wins the fucking UCL choking agains atleti with a ramos header at the last minute
Why people even care about that corrupt shit?
>>63915682
ou need to believe that, you really do.
Italy is the next Brazil, fading from elite to has-been.
>>63916043
>the best player in the world is a guy who isn't a player
ok...
>>63916038
depends how many you concede as well
>>63916043
I recently read that if every shot on target that Bayern has allowed this season had resulted in a goal then Bayern would still be at the top of the Bundesliga.
He's a luxury player, just like every other goalkeeper at an elite club.
2014-----------------------
Ucl:Real Madrid
Europa League: Sevilla FC
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Ucl:FC Barcelona
Europa League:Sevilla FC
La liga domination , When will it end?
>>63916128
When Catalonia becomes independent
>>63916128
It's the same in Latin America with Argentine clubs. We've won the last 2 CL and last 2 CS
>La liga domination , When will it end?
Probably not for the foreseeable future, which is shit tbf.
Remember when the CL was exciting?
IMO it should go back to how the European Cup was, with only the actual league winners and reigning CL champions getting in, but then you'd have the same issue we have with the CL now of having the same teams in the Semi Finals every year.
>>63916204
>it should go back to how the European Cup was
Why? So we can watch Barcelona/Bayern put 8 past the champion of Lithuania instead of hoping for a miraculous upset from City or Chelsea?
>>63916170
Cataluña was never a country and never will be, you dirty stinking Jew.
>>63916176
>muh superior spanish blood
>>63916204
Back in the day the CL worked because teams from smaller countries could hold onto their talent. Now due to tv money and the bosman ruling there's no chance of that working again. You would have 3 or 4 teams steamroll the competition and the tournament wouldn't really start until the semi-finals.
>>63914980
When Spain's economy collapses and they cant afford players. 2019 I guess?
>>63914980
When Barcelona and Real Madrid join the Premier league
>>63916096
I read that as well. It's almost incredible
>>63916228
I'd say the Champions of Lithuania are more deserving of being in the Champions League than Arsenal, United or City are.
But like I said, if it went back to being how the European Cup was we'd have the issue we have now, with the same 3/4 teams being semi finalists every year.
>>63916096
To be fair that unfairly reduces the job of a modern goalkeeper.
>>63916280
that's exactly why we need an european super league senpai
>>63915804
WEW lad.
>>63916289
>if I suck enough euro dicks they will accept me!
get bent you queer
>>63916332
Canada putting the Mexican in his place....
>>63916309
It does so but the point stands that elite teams don't necessarily need elite goalkeepers. Barcelona dominated world football with Valdes as a GK, then replaced him with some young meme keeper and Bravo who has never been world class before coming there and kept dominating. Madrid won the CL when Casillas was having a dogshit year and almost threw it all away in the final, can you imagine.
They may be needed to come up with 1-2 crucial saves in a big game but on most weeks they just spend 90% of the game walking around their penalty area and watching their buddies in attack style on some nobodies
>>63916332
>>63916345
you are talking out of your ass my fellow countryman and making everyone else with your flag look like an idiot. And Canada shut the fuck up you retarded, irrelevant faggot.
>>63916079
>You don't concede but you also don't score
You don't win, that's for sure. At max you get a draw if it was 0-0.
>You score and you concede too
You can win if you scored more than your rival.
The point is, scoring is a requirement for victory. Not conceding guarantees a draw, but nothing more.
That's why football is an attacking game lad.
>>63915810
Don't worry lads, America is here solving The soccer.
when Serie A returns to a decent level
the PL is too self centric even when it's clear they are a few steps below spanish football, and the Bundesliga is too much of a one team league
Odds on it being an all Barca top 3 next year???
>>63918155
Very slim but it literally should be them 3. Ronaldo will be there unless he goes back to United.
>>63918155
guaranteed if they win the treble again, C. Ronaldo is not having a good season, can't barely statpad anymore
>>63918254
*can barely
