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Has there ever been a case of someone having it and then losing
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Has there ever been a case of someone having it and then losing it so dramatically in such a short time?
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Jake Delhomme went into the shitter pretty fast too but the dropoff wasn't near as far as Peyton's
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>>63604155
bronkeks gtfo in here
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Remember the hype?
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Johnny Manziel was on track to be a HOFer but Cocaine stole it from him.

Stay away from drugs, kids.
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>>63604170

>14-2 vs. PeyPey all time
>7-1 vs. him as a Bronco

Took you guys long enough
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>>63604172
Actually he was widely predicted to be a bust and this thread is for players who were good and then dropped off
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>>63604194

>Johnny Manziel was on track to be a HOFer

When was that exactly?
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Pretty crazy that less than 2 years ago he was playing at a level that lead to the greatest regular season stats of all time. 43-8 happened and their offense was exposed, but to go from that level to being by far the worst QB in the league in less than 2 years.
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>>63604155
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>>63604208
>getting this upset about your pizza selling stat babby qb having his special day ruined by the kansas city chiefs.
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>dale Jr wins
>Brady wins and /sp/ is mad as fuck
>Manning officially dead

God tonight was beautiful
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>>63604155

Trent Richardson, perhaps? He had a good first year in Cleveland, then went to Indy and fell down the shitter. Released by Colts, went to Oakland. Released by Oakland, disappeared.
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>>63604155

That faget Lamar Odom
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>>63604194
Manziel played fantastic today

I saw three drops on the goal line alone. He has no help.
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>>63604291
I'll never forgive the Redskins for ruining RG3. He could have been one of the best and most fun quarterbacks in the league if he had gone to literally any other team.
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>>63604436
>3 quarters of garbage time
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>>63604155
Verlander's decline was pretty sudden.
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>>63604155
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>>63604313
>Brady isnt shit without his kickers against good teams
>Brady wins
pick 1
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>>63604155

Schaub tanked his career and his team really fast t b h
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>>63604155
Lou Gehrig
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>>63604498
Yeah that was hell of a 4th and 10 that Gostkowski picked up.
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>>63604208
>posting the records backwards
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>implying he ever had it
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>>63604443
This. I'm still clinging to the last shred of hope that he'll go to Philly/Dallas and be successful.
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>>63604498

I will never understand how anyone can be so stupid as to actually think this way. It's astounding that they allow you people to vote.
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Steve Blass
Steve Sax
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Ahman Green.
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>>63604443
>people actually believe this
>people actually believe rg3 would be better than luck, Wilson, and Cam given the same staff/team or whatever
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>>63604155
I hope I am wrong but dwyane wade looks bad this couple of seasons when it matters
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Kaep

Elite Coach/Surrounding cast leave and the wheels fall completely off

Wilson isn't as bad but will go through the same in coming seasons.
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Is this limited to QB?
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>>63604155
Yes, guess who?
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>>63604777
Just goes to show that once a RB hits 30, his career is over
No matter how good they were or what they've done in the past, they hit 30 and it's done
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>>63604831
I really don't know. Who is it?
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>>63604831
Matt Ryan?
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>>63604831
>>63604845
>>63604870


favre
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happened to all 3 within a 2-3 year time span

feels bad man
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>>63604872
Was the shit year his Jets year? Cause it doesn't really make sense since he went to the Vikings after and was way more productive.
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>>63604831
poor Bert, though to be fair he said he shouldn't have come back for that last season and only did it to make his teammates happy
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>>63604872
I should have known.

But Favre is one of the GOATs. His stats just came from him playing the game and trying to win.
Manning is just a stat padder and the only reason he's still playing is for more stats. That's all he cares about
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>>63604890
both were the minnesota years
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>>63604916
Seriously? Damn. Were they in order? Cause wasn't his last pass that interception in the NFC championship game? How did they get that far with those stats?
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>>63604837
Gore is having a good season even if the colts aren't.
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>>63604932
All he does(did) is win, baby
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>>63604155
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>>63604932
his first season was the nfc championship game. the second was shit
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LT, Shaun Alexander and Larry Johnson all died over the course of like 1 year

>tfw no Darth Vader facemask anymore
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>>63604155
Shaun Alexander (can prob find a few others via the Madden Curse)

Granted, a lot different for a RB than a QB like PeyPey
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>>63604946
My bad. Thanks
>>63604940
>Brett Favre
>Brett Favre
>Brett Favre
>Brett Favre
>Brett Favre
>Brett Favre
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That was fun, now WR edition.

This was probably more mental, than any lacking in abilities.
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>>63605021
Mike Wallace?
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>>63605021
No Randy was just washed at that point
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>>63605021
Miles Austin?
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>>63604443
Ok you need to stop listening to ESPN garbage. The Redskins didn't ruin RG3, the media sure did shit on him but it's because him and his fucking faggot father told his owner and coach that they want him to become a pocket passer which he has never been in his entire life.

Even now he's still having trouble staying in the pocket and doesn't go through progressions properly which is why Gruden shits on him because he's forced the franchise into making him into a project instead of highlighting his strengths of passing out of the pocket.

He can still be great if he drops the whole pocket passer bullshit
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>>63605098
>He can still be great if he drops the whole pocket passer bullshit
Except he cant run as well now, and is much more injury prone.

They ruined his health. A coach has to know when to bench his QB. Shanahan left him out, after he already was hurt.
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>>63605098

They need to find the proper offense for him. He has a rare combination of accuracy and power in his arm.

I think he'd excel in a West Coast style where his mobility would be a great advantage.
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>>63605098
Rushing him back from a serious ACL injury is ruining him though.
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>>63604155

Kobe's downfall has unfolded before our eyes. He peaked in 2011 and hasn't been the same since the Achilles injury. This season has been awful for him and the Lakers tend to play better with him off the floor. He has a few flashes here and there, but it's a sad sight to see really.
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>>63604443
he ruined himself

every other qb learned to slide

also he is pretty bad at reading defenses
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>>63605119
Dude most QBs go out there and still play with injuries like most players in the NFL. Romeo played with fucked up ribs and won the division but no one said shit about coach pulling him out.

It wasn't exactly the right decision but most coaches let there players play.

>>63605128
He did that to himself with his stupid media campaign with all in for week 1. I don't think he realized the expectations put on him by the fan base he needed to chill the fuck out but he let it all go to his head
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>>63604837
>expecting RBs to maintain the same productivity when they're getting 300+ carries a season for 10+ years

And that's if they manage to stay healthy without any major injuries.
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>>63605124
I don't think you read the entire post but he doesn't want to be mobile anymore and become a pocket passer. That means he needs to rely on reading th defense and start knowing where the ball is going to go presnap but he's bad at it because he's never done it before.

No amount of scheme can help him unless he allows it, which is mainly why the shanahans don't ruck with him because he wanted to change th entire scheme of the offense for himself instead of for the team
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>>63605162
You can hurt your ribs, and as long as they don't puncture your heart or lungs, there isn't much of a lasting effect.

But when you've already torn your ACL, then sprain it, get left in and then tear it for the second time? Your body doesn't recover 100% from that.
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>>63604837
Unless it's a once in a lifetime player like AP

He's not fucking human he's faster than everyone on th field and still requires 3 people to tackle him
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>>63604837
>Just goes to show that once a RB hits 30, his career is over
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>>63605134
>downfall

It's like his 19th season nigga? He's been playing since he was 18...what the fuck do people expect? I mean don't get me wrong Godbe is one my favorite players all time...but come on he was bound to break down eventually...especially when LA barely puts anyone around him besides the bare necessities.

They give him the bare essentials he needs to KINDA SORTA MAYBE WIN...while also limiting the talent around him so he can still drop 50 and 60 point games.

I wouldn't call it a downfall because he's 36 or 37. Now if he was playing like this back when he was 29 or 30 then you could've made an argument.
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Should Peyton retire?
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>>63605202

He has the tools for it.

>source: I watched him live for 4 years and go from a literal track athlete into not throwing an incompletion in like a 50 throw stretch and having one of the best deep balls the NCAA has ever seen.

I was at the game where the U of Buffalo defense was chimping out and going for his knees all game until he got carted off the field.
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Lasted all of 2 games
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Does Ryan Leaf count?

he was preddy gud and hyped and then crashed hard as fuck.

>tfw wsu fag and this bitch came from WSU
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>>63605221
Should have done that after last season.
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>>63605267
We're talking about has beens, not never was'.

NCAA really isn't all that good. Jason White won the Heisman and was never even drafted.
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>>63605021
ochocinco?
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Vince Young fell fast
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>>63604291
>Holding onto the lead into the fourth quarter
>Shanahan not throwing in the fucking towel
>Ruining one of the most promising talents the team has seen in decades

Just...just...that game was misery. It's almost as if he wanted to ruining RGIII's career.
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>>63605021
Sidney Rice
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It's 5:13AM and Peyton Manning has just thrown another interception.
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The memeiest of all the meme RBs.
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>>63606188
I miss this meme
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>>63606197
We can revive it man Manning just went full Delhomme
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>>63605134
He's just a ballhogging cap absorber now days his old ass needs to retire already
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>>63605221
Yes.
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Peyton has been showing signs of degenerating for years now. What do you mean "short time?"
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>>63604155
"I am now the record holder for most passing yards. Better celebrate by throwing 4 picks."
This cunt will be remembered for what he is. A glory hound more concerned with his stats and commercial contracts than his teams winning.
Also, the gay little faces him and his brother make.
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>>63606341
Just 2 years ago he completely rewrote the record book and led the highest scoring offense of all time to the super bowl.

He went from that to what he is now in a season and a half.
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How about anderson?
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>>63606443
overrated
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>>63604155
Falcao
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LEN BIAS
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>>63604902
>>63604837
>all those way off opinions
back to russia with you
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>>63606341
>16 weeks are years
how's life on mercury?
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Torres, Shevchenko, Falcao
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>>63606599

Torres and Falcao both tore their ACLs. It's the death knell of any pacy and clinical striker. There's just no full recovery from that kind of injury for a football player, and anyone who thought they'd get "back to their best" hasn't a clue.
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>>63604194
>Johnny Manziel was on track to be a HOFer

>Isn't he a rookie or something?

Fuck the hype train is real.
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>>63604769

kap never had it. he was always a meme QB
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>smelly divegrass fags posting in a based handegg thread
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>>63606618
Falcao was never super pacey, just has incredible movement in the box but it feels like he just doesn't trust his athleticism any more so just stands there, rather than gambling on the back post etc, or if he does gamble it's too late because he's overthinking it. his head is far more shot than his body
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>>63606940
smelly divegrass fan get the fuck out of this based handegg thread
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>>63604436
Man, Refball stopped the browns from making it a close game too.
The game was 3-27 with like two minutes left in the 3rd and that was the worst display of refball I've seen.

Of course it's the browns so it doesn't matter if you refballl them.
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Rousey
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>>63607045
smelly divegrass fan fuck off
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2012 Schaub, which is funny because Denver is looking to finish with the same record as the 2012 Texans.
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>>63604155
>cntrl+f tig
smhtbhfams

Tiger woods was on a fucking tear and then that him being a sex addict happened.

Who knows maybe manning is going through a divorce or is just too old. Idk a lot of the game at qb/golf is mental, so he needs to figure something out.
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>>63605206
Except Romo played with a punctured lung as well as broken ribs. I don't remember the media saying the Cowboys should have benched him.
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>>63607294
no
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canada breaker
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>>63607302
>tfw
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>>63604837
Who is Adrian Peterson?
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Bo Jackson.

Literally on one play.

So strong, he broke his own hip trying to get out of a tackle.
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>>63604155
>liverpool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLu_MWmhCzk
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>>63604155
any athlete who's ever gotten injured
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>>63605134

I keep thinking what could have been if that Achilles tear didn't happen. Dude was 34, yet he was still having one of the better years of his career.

After watching his entire NBA career, though, I'm ok with it. Considering he'll likely retire after this year, I don't care how badly he plays at this point, I just want to enjoy what time there is left to watch Kobe perform.
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>>63604498
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>>63604525
The Patriots caused it all, after the varsity jacket game.
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Ray Rice
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Johan Santana
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>>63604945
TOO SOON!
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>>63604769
SF is a train wreck hauling dumpster fires.

But it feels like we Us12s are headed down the same track.
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>>63605021
That's gotta be randy moss.
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>>63605219

It wouldn't be so bad if Kobe wasn't trying to play like he's still 25. He's in a complete denial of his age and abilities at 36. You'd expect a guy who went from a high flying dunker to midrange threat to be able to adjust his game once again. However, all he was changed since getting hurt is chucking more threes. He really needed to work on his postup game.
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>>63605021

T.O
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>>63604255
>Worst QB in the league
Have you seen Rodgers play lately?
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>>63605219
Kobe was completely carrying the Lakers until he got injured in 2013 right before the playoffs. The dude was averaging 27 points a game at 34 years old on one of the most efficient seasons he ever played.

Kobe could probably be putting up at least 20 a game right now if he didn't get injured.
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>>63613195
This. This so hard.
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>>63605146
To top it all of he's built like a stringbean. I knew on draft day he'd have a short career.
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>>63604166
I miss that three year period where he was gonna be the next Favre. him and Smitty are still my favorite Panthers
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>>63613120
fucking this.
dude is crippled by age and injury
he needs to just be spotting up for corner 3s or something, not trying to "take over" with heroball
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>>63606443
That leg break was brutal man. Even if it fully heals, the psychological effects of it, I imagine, would remain. Throwing low kicks and kicks in general was a huge part of his offense.
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>>63613486
isnt their a .gif of this where he misses the barn completely
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>>63606599
>>63606618
Add Michael Owen to that list. Around '97 and '98 he was destined to be the next GOAT. Injuries robbed him of his pace tho
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Steph Curry once some jealous nigga shreds his elbow
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Tiger?
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>>63607123
Dude was roiding hardcore and his body fell apart. And his mental edge fell off too.
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>>63604443
>RG3
>having a 3-letter nickname in football

he was destined for the trashcan before it all began
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>>63613195
Once teams figured out that the Packers had 0 playmakers with Nelson out it went south. Definitely doesn't help that Lacy decided to hang out at all you can eat buffets during the offseason.
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t-mac is the only one i can think of, but it was worse cuz he only played a few years at his peak and then lost it to injuries
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>>63613967
This. He went from 8-10 guaranteed wins a year to skulling chip shots across the green within two years.
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