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My sides, you cant make this up https://youtu.be/1hmfzFh56Vo?t=33s
>33 seconds
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>>63563496
O.o

that shit did happen lawl

Fire that faggot Edmund
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ayy lmao
desu that shit is great senpai
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>>63563496
ctfu fucking bum
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>>63563496
literally gonna fap to this video
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>>63563496
>she's gonna try to get me to make a mistake an then kick me in the head but that ain't gonna happen

LOL
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>she's keep distance, get me very frustrated and kick me in the head

She predicted exactly how she would lose. Amazing.
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>>63563496
Please someone with editing skills put that sound bite of her saying she won't get kicked in the head over this webm
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Ronda had no gameplan after she won all of her fights so easily

she literally tried to do the same thing again but this time Holly had the SKILLSET to handle it. who told ronda to stand with the best female boxer ever? if there's a better one i don't see them anywhere. it's a no brainer
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>>63563902

shes lucky to not have a broken neck
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>>63563996
> who told ronda to stand with the best female boxer ever?
That cunt wasn't the best. She got crushed by that French chick, and dodged Brækhus for a year, before she quit boxing and moved on to MMA.
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>>63564123
she's one of the best then, she's a good boxer

she KNOWS how to box, at the very least, and ronda doesn't, so she wins
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if you guys weren't such casuals, you'd realize Ronda won that fight.

I see you fucking noobs watch the big name fights like the Mayweather fight and get everything wrong. Holly put on a good show, but Ronda racked up a LOT of technical points there that Holly couldn't match.

Don't try to tell me about some bullshit cheat moves that Holly pulled off there at the end. Real fans will know how much bullshit this match was, there will be quite a protest on this.

Ronda remains undefeated.
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>>63564247
Your a goof
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>>63564123
Best boxer in women's mma. Although that doesn't say a ton.
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>>63563902

This is so satisfying to watch thanks
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>>63563496

excellent fine lad(yboy).
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>>63563872
Not amazing, suspicious. If she correctly predicted Holm's strategy why was her own strategy fucking retarded?

>opponent is trying to keep distance and wait for me to slip up
>time to rush at opponent like curraaaaaazy and have literally no guard ever

Fixed fight? Intentional throw for rematch hype?
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I didn't watch it.
How long was the fight?
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>>63564709
2 rounds
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>>63564247
>better than tyson
>better than Jordan

you can keep saying that all you want you fucking bitch but it won't change a fucking thing. GET FUCKING REKT.
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>>63563496
She is cute. I almost feel bad for her.

Damn it, penis.
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Is this the new "THIS DOES NOT FUCKING SLIP NOW"?
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Pro Boxing >>>>> Olympic Judo

AS IT SHOULD BE
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She seems so nice in that video though. Feel a little bad now
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>>63564247
lol a casual fan if I ever seen one
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>>63564622
Y3AH IT WAS FIXED EVERYTHING IS FAKE RONDA DIDN'T GET KNOCKED OUT A JEWISH HOLOGRAM DID
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She's so fucking hot in that interview

Hnnnggggg
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>>63564247

She also got heem'd
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top lel senpai

https://youtu.be/jCahbcDUpBs
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>>63563496

Good lord she's cute though.
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>>63564622
>Intentional throw for rematch hype?

That kick could have killed her. No one throws a fight like that.
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>>63563496
Jesus Holy fuck did they literally script the fight based on this summary?

She knew exactly what was coming and still got fucked by it.
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>>63563496
She must have some horrible tits. Look at the size of that gap and the general shape. She's probably a B cup and she has sag.
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>>63564247
Ronda pls. Play some pokemon and relax
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>>63563496
Holy shit Fallon called it @0:12

"yeah, yu, yeah, yeah you gonna lose"
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>>63567909
HOLY SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT F4M
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>>63567909

it almost looks like Fallon is shocked by Rousey's hubris and stuttered into saying that. I wonder if he was really saying youre gonna lose as in i hope you lose
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>>63568470
You're right in both cases.

Freudian slip
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>>63567909
kek
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America hates losers.
She is now going to be forgotten about.
I don't have to see this dumb bitch on my WWE mandrama any more thank you Holly.

Once again, Boxing > MMA. If you have a solid foundation in boxing, it counts way more than any memeshit MMA training you do for 6 months.
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>>63569459
This
Staph and Gaytch can suck my dick, the loldivas revolution is well and truly over
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>>63569459
lol go be stupid somewhere else. Using a woman's MMA fight for an argument for anything is cosmic-tier retarded. If boxing was the best base we'd see several male champions who had pro-boxing backgrounds.

The fact is Ronda fought like an idiot because her camp is full of idiots and they made her an idiot. Not once did she go for a single-leg or attempt to cut the ring off or even throw leg kicks to try and slow Holly down. All very, VERY basic techniques that an arm chair coach like myself is even aware of that a fighter should use against someone like Holly who was doing what she was doing in the match.
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>>63563902
Aren't they required to ''shake'' hands at the beginning?

What a bitch.
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>>63570175
beautiful
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>>63563996
>who told ronda to stand with the best female boxer ever?
Her hack Armenian coach did. He's the one who hyped her up and kept telling her she is the greatest boxer on earth.
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>>63570253
All male MMA boxers have been complete scrub boxers. Any male boxer worth his salt in boxing stays a boxer. This is why you see so many wrestlers going to MMA instead of boxing, and even then those guys are only looking for paydays.

Holly was a world class boxer, by far one of the greatest female boxers and kickboxers both sports have seen. Has come to MMA and literally picked apart the supposed best this sport had to offer. And she did it with that foundation.

You can say hurr why didn't she grapple and rush but look at Holly's style how would that work when you can't even catch her. And the times she did have her Holly slipped out immediately.
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>>63564123
>She got crushed by that French chick
She won the rematch though.
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that dress tho
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>>63570357

this.

MMA faggots just can't into technique and are all about muh flashy combos and blood gushing out of the skull.

Only the normie hype made Holm an underdog. I picked her as a favourite due to her superior boxing/kickboxing pedigree and because Ronda is surrounded by shills who keep telling her how great she is.
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>>63570357
>All male MMA boxers have been complete scrub boxers.
Moving the goalposts I see.

> This is why you see so many wrestlers going to MMA instead of boxing
Yea, because there's fucking wrestling in MMA. There is no wrestling in boxing.

>Holly was a world class boxer, by far one of the greatest female boxers and kickboxers both sports have seen. Has come to MMA and literally picked apart the supposed best this sport had to offer. And she did it with that foundation.
No shit she did it with that foundation, but that doesn't prove SHIT in your retarded argument of boxing > MMA. Do I need to bring up Couture vs. Toney? Surely you wouldn't refer to James Toney as a scrub, right?

>You can say hurr why didn't she grapple and rush
That's one way to straw man.

>but look at Holly's style how would that work when you can't even catch her.
And I already pointed how how deficient Ronda herself was in this regard. But only a dumb shit would equate Ronda as the poster child of all of MMA.

So no, boxing is not superior to MMA. Especially when Holly herself isn't even a boxer anymore.
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>>63563496
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>>63570523
Literally the only example you have of a boxer losing to an MMA guy is a fight between two 50 year olds where the boxer was completely past his prime at that too (hence his decision to go into MMA).

I'm not saying what has happened isn't rare. Holm is the only boxer of any sort I've seen still in their prime (world champion only two years ago rather than 20 years ago in James Tony's case) go into MMA.

Boxing is just the superior sport. Not one top MMA guy would win against a top boxer but we've seen top boxers destroy top MMA fighters.
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>>63570621
But Fabio Brawldonado was 22-0 as a boxer, and he's a scrub as an mma fighter.
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>>63570652
>22-0 as a boxer

And never a world champion? Total shit boxer fighting scrubs. Hence his move to MMA.
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>>63570621
>Literally the only example you have of a boxer losing to an MMA guy is a fight between two 50 year olds where the boxer was completely past his prime at that too (hence his decision to go into MMA).
lol so now you've gone from a very general argument of 'boxing is superior to MMA' to an argument of 'well those male boxers who lost in MMA were scrubs' to now an argument of 'well those boxers who were amazing in boxing only lost in MMA because they weren't in their prime'. You've moved the goalpost so many times I think it's crammed up your own ass.

>Boxing is just the superior sport. Not one top MMA guy would win against a top boxer but we've seen top boxers destroy top MMA fighters.
Well please list all these fights where top boxers (I'm assuming you mean guys who were actual boxers beforehand and made a name for themselves in boxing) "destroyed" these top MMA fighters.
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I loved how after the first round of getting hit repeatedly with crisp left hands her Armenian coach said, "You're doing great, Ronda, excellent, keep it up"

Shills literally killed her career.
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>>63570724
LOL did you just move the goalposts again? How about you do yourself a favor and simplify your argument: Instead of saying BOXING BETTER THAN MMA you say FEMALES WITH ELITE BOXING BACKGROUNDS CAN DO GREAT IN FEMALE MMA. At least that has some merit and I could agree to a certain extent.
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Just to relive this moment.
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>>63570787
link to live thread?
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>>63563902
In retrospect that actually isn't a humiliating knockout ala bethe correia or anderson silva. Brutal, yes, but not embarrassing. She was almost Rocky 3-esque in her fall from grace.

That being said - she will likely not beat Holly Holm in a rematch, which will mark the end of the women's 135 division as well as the fringe mainstream success the UFC has been enjoying in 2015. The repercussions of this fight will ripple throughout the UFC - casual fans and celebs abandon the sport, PPV numbers will trend down, ESPN completely ignores it's existence, the Reebok deal will fall apart (a good thing). All of these factors will be accelerated should Conor Mcgregor lose, thus leaving their only top-tier draw outside of a Rousey rematch to be Jon Jones. I know we all enjoyed this particular heem, but losing an established mainstream star creates a tremendous vacuum that can take years to fill. Think of the dark ages between Liddell to Jon Jones.
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>>63570175
I fucking love you
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>>63570413
Asking for it desu
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guess i'll just watch this again
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>>63570784
Fair enough.
An Elite boxer will destroy any elite MMA fighter if both are in their prime in an MMA fight but the reverse will never be true and this is proof that boxing is the superior sport.

No amount of MMA foundation will prepare you for anything but MMA. Boxing can prepare you with how to adapt to any fighting environment on the planet. If you excel at boxing to the world level, that's reigning at world champion for many years you become one of the most dangerous individuals on earth, with MMA that's just not the case.

You will never see an MMA fighter become a boxer. You will rarely scrub boxers become MMA fighters. If an elite boxer becomes an MMA fighter, they will rule their weight division annihilating every MMA fighter they come across, even the elite ones.
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>>63570873

I'm a casual fan. I'm Irish so I tune in for McGregor and I tune in for Joanna and Ronda "Meme" Rousey.

And I will absolutely continue tuning in for Holly. I can't wait to see what she does to her next opponent or to destroy Rousey again if theres a rematch.
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>>63564859
This is worse desu, This is like being unbeaten all season then losing to Hull on the last day and getting relegated.
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>>63570175
Keep on removing those kebabs, you beautiful bastard.
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>>63564865
Nah, Olympic Judo can take you all the way to the top, if you have the striking to round yourself out
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>>63570930
She's old, you won't be tuning in for long
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>>63570905
This is bait, right?
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>>63563496
glorious
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>French chick beats Rousey
This must be the best week ever for France.
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>>63570905
>An Elite boxer will destroy any elite MMA fighter if both are in their prime in an MMA fight but the reverse will never be true and this is proof that boxing is the superior sport.
You are very, very stupid. Couture beat James Toney in an MMA match when both of them were out of their primes which means they were on the same talent level. So I guess that proves that an elite MMA fighter will destroy any elite boxer regardless if they're in their primes or not in an MMA fight.
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>>63570932
>then losing to Hull

No it's more like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRK_OMQGQlc
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>>63570837
>>63560218
>tfw I was there
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>>63564247
>Charge around like a mad snorting bull
>don't adjust
>Holm lands 29 of 38 head strikes
>get your shit pushed in

>Muh technical points

Kek.
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>>63570981
Nah I think he really is that stupid. He genuinely thinks Holly is still a boxer and not a full fledged mixed martial artist who uses a wide variety of techniques not taught in boxing. He's also moved the goalposts so many times he really has no argument to make anymore.
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>>>/asp/

Seriously, how is this not the epitome of ALTERNATIVE sports?
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>>63571022
because it's an actual sport and not just acting
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> The attention that Ronda Rousey has gotten is unprecedented,. She is, in my opinion, the biggest combat sports star ever. There’s never been a female combat sports athlete like Ronda. No one even close. You got Christy Martin back from the boxing days and Laila Ali because she was Muhammad Ali’s daughter, and there’s been a few very good fighters like Ann Ford. But as far as star quality, as far as getting that kind of attention, there’s never been any attention like Ronda. Because there’s never been anybody like Ronda skill-wise that looks like her.
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>>63571015
How can someone seriously hold that opinion in the year of our lord 2015
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>>63570995
>when both of them were out of their primes

That is not my argument anything can happen when people are out of their primes. All that proves is anything can happen in a fight between two old fuckers.
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>>63571005
Japan laying down the ground rules.
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This was just a stylistic nightmare for Rousey, as all her take-downs have to come from the clinch. She's never shot from the outside, or even attempted anything that could be remotely considered a single/double. She grapples and throws, and has absolutely nothing that can dictate distance outside from bull charging into a hug. Since people have forgotten that Holm's prior UFC victories include a SPLIT decision over Raquel Pennington and a decision win over a retiring old lady Marion Reneau, it's likely she'll get fucking bulldozed by someone with minimal defensive capabilities that can wrap up a single without tiring out and without having to worry about being submitted, like Cat Zingano.
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>>63570995
That conclusion doesn't logically follow.
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Can you faggots stop shitting up /sp/ with your "sport"?
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>>63571015
That's not what I said at all. If you see, I clearly wrote boxing allows you to adapt better to MMA than vice versa ever would, and being elite in boxing shows mastery of that skill set. The problem with MMA is mastering that skillset doesn't even make you a master of MMA. It's simple really: Boxing + MMA = Great fighter. MMA + Boxing = Good fighter.

I'm saying it should come as no surprise that Holly won this fight because her skillset was far superior. How could it not be? She was a boxing world champion just two years ago.
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>>63571148
addition commutes :^)
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>>63571082
>All that proves is anything can happen in a fight between two old fuckers.
I take it you haven't actually seen Couture vs. Toney? Because if you have you would know that Couture went for a basic as fuck ankle pick and easily took down a James Toney who very obviously trained very little, if any, TD defense (you rarely see ankle picks work against even the most out of shape MMA fighters because of how easy it is to defend against it). Neither man won or lost because they were out of their primes. Couture won because his MMA skills were superior to Toney's boxing skills in an MMA match. In fact, Toney fought the exact same way you seem to believe Holly fought: No MMA technique at all, just pure boxing and he got his ass handed to him. But you go ahead and keep going on this stupid fucking B-BUT THEIR PRIMES "argument" while continuously moving the goalposts.
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>>63570904
That's a porn isn't it.
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>>63571112
Marion isn't retiring what are you on about
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>>63571114
And neither does the britbong's.
>HOLLY BEAT RONDA IN A SINGLE FIGHT USING KICKBOXING AND BASIC MMA TECHNIQUES SO THIS PROVES UNDOUBTEDLY THAT BOXING SOMEHOW IS VASTLY SUPERIOR TO MMA AND THAT ANY BOXING CHAMPION IN THEIR PRIME WOULD DESTROY EVERY MMA FIGHTER FOREVER EVEN THOUGH I HAVE ZERO EVIDENCE TO BACK THIS CLAIM UP BESIDES ONE FIGHT, BUT EVEN THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE HOLLY HOLM USED A WIDE VARIETY OF MMA TECHNIQUES TO BEAT RONDA
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>>63570175

Bless you, you genocidal state you.

Bless you and your ilk.
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>>63571163
Not every binary operation commutes.
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>>63571169
What happened in a fight between two old men is irrelevant to the argument at hand. You've said I've moved goalposts but my final prime based argument is flawless and Holly Holm's proved it true.
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>>63571230
>I'm saying boxing is superior to MMA based on a single fight and I'm ignoring all the overwhelming evidence that says my argument is full of shit because I choose to make a very stupid argument about MUH PRIME
I think I've summed your "argument" up quite nicely. And now we can all have a laugh at you.
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>>63571203
MMA is a meme sport it cannot compare to actual non meme sports.
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>>63570873
>>63570873

OR

OR

OR

They can set up a grudge match between Rousey and Cyborg and we see man beat a woman legally on PPV.
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>>63571226
Give me an example other than matrices because those are technically inconsistent with ZFC.
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>>63563496

Why does every beta male in the world suck up to her?
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>>63571265
Any non abelian group.
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>>63571112

Assuming Zingano doesn't get head kicked when she bull rushes.

Have you watched Zingano fight though?

She's the same as Rousey at times. Static and horrible defense and sacrifices damage to grapple.

It was clear that Holm had the jitters in her UFC debut and that she got over it with this fight. She was never a one punch KO artist and relied on volume and counter striking to win.
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>>63571278
pegging fetish most likely
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>>63571278
Don't mind Fallon he sucks up to everyone.
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>>63563902
reminds me of this fight so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK42zojlLXw

Ronda is the bald guy Holm is Fedor's brother.
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>>63571042
what a moron
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>>63571391
I think Thompson ended up being okay goy though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNTbyurgOsY
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>watching UFC

Absolute manchildren detected. I bet you wear Tapout clothing and drink Monster.

The only difference between kickboxing and UFC is better marketing.
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Both the Britbong and Amerikek's argument are logically unsound, as collegiate and Olympic-tier wrestling is analytically the most successful contemporary base of combat sports. Even those who you would consider an outlier, such as Holly Holm or Anderson Silva, are capable of amateur level defensive wrestling. If Holly came out with the identical "elite boxing" stance she took while fighting Anne Mathis, she would have been double-legged and pounded out within the first minute by any capable wrestler. You just can't stick your lead leg out that far in an MMA match without someone kicking your knee out and completely fucking up your base. There's no top level boxer that would have enough time to become well-versed enough to be competitive in any wrestler-heavy division in the UFC.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_oBjinZQ7k
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>>63571631
You don't even know what my argument is otherwise you wouldn't have called it logically unsound.
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>>63571615

>not wearing vintage Tapout shirts designed by Mask

>>63571615

>Not letting mask do your intro

What are? uncool?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdhkIgsK7Dk
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>>63571148
But MMA is a mix of other disciplines which includes boxing.

I love boxing and don't really give a shit about MMA but people should stop these comparisons.
Boxing is a totally different sport, MMA vs Boxing is like asking who would win in a formula 1 race between Soccer players and American football players.
It doesn't fucking make sense.

Boxing is the sweet science of fisticuffs in the squared circle, it's not MMA and it doesn't need to be compared with it.
And if you desperately want to win a streetfight invest in a knife or a tazer you fucking faggot.

And of course you need to know more than 1 discipline in MMA, since it's a mix.
An one dimensional wrestler will be at a disadvantage in MMA just like an one dimensional striker will be at a disadvantage in MMA.
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>>63570905
Silly Muhammed, Technical points mean jack shit when you get to sleep senpai
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>>63571354
>pegging fetish
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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>>63570905
>An Elite boxer will destroy any elite MMA fighter if both are in their prime in an MMA fight

toppest of keks right here. An elite boxer would be chopped down rather fast because he likely has no idea how to check a kick. Or better yet they'll close distance to start throwing punches and there opponent will drop into guard, confusing the fuck out of the boxer as he has no idea what he's supposed to do with a non-standing opponent throwing ankle picks at him.
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>>63563496
>women want to be taken seriously
>dress like this
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>>63571278
Liberal media pushing their women are just as good as men meme
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>>63565817
>>63570873

>heem

Combat sports noob. What does that mean?
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>>63563496
If she's this good at reading her opponent how come she didn't change her fucking strategy?
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>>63576422
Arrogance. Everyone's been telling her for years that she's the GOAT.
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Has Money said anything yet?
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>>63571239
Fuck your shitty forced meme senpai
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>>63571847
i think JDS is a good example of someone who uses solely boxing and destroyed everyone

i mean yes, you take a huge risk of getting taken down or submitted but a wrestler will dimish from head strikes during the round as well
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>>63576422
Hubris, she believed her own hype.

Everyone knew Holy's strategy. It was an open secret that she will use her superior striking to tire Ronda out and then go for the finish. People simply expected Ronda to use her Judo and keep the fight short. I realized she was done when Ronda started chasing Holy.
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I think she looks disgusting and have never liked her

I can't be the only one
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>>63570288

Yes, its a sign of respect between fighters and its very customary. Fighters who don't touch gloves are considered rude and barbaric. Even Floyd Mayweather who built a career out of being the bad guy touched gloves.
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>>63578967
Yeah everyone, except that one former champion that tenderized his face on two separate occasions through his superior wrestling and use of up close, dirty boxing. The fact that JDS, bring the one dimensional fighter he is, doing as well as he did goes to show how shit that division truly is. Werdum would kill him now.
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