Why does Peyton always poop his pants in the play offs?
idk but in the last 10 years he's won the same amount of owls as brady
>>63537867
It isn't so much that he shits down his own leg as it is that he carries mediocre teams into the playoffs but he can't win against the better competition with those teams. It's the LeBronk Factor.
>damn good player
>carry shitty team to playoffs
>shitty team shits itself in playoffs
>get shit smeared on you by association
peyton is only able to play well against shitty defences. when he has to face good defences he always fails. peyton manning is one of the most overrated sportsmen in existence. the fact that some people talk about about him in GOAT conversations is insulting.
Pic related: the actual goat
>>63537902
So the 2013 Broncos weren't an elite team?
Peyton's confidence is fragile, if you rattle him early, he's a cupcake
>>63537902
Nah, he's had a top 10 defense for at least 6 seasons, and always had pro bowl receivers.
He has a tendency to get rattled when things don't go exactly his way, which often happens against better opponents in the playoffs. He forces balls and gets upset with teammates, and generally plays poorly.
>>63537972
They were a hell of a lot better than most of what he's had to work with. I never said he was flawless.
This year's defense looks pretty salty, the little bit I've seen of it. Should be interesting.
>>63537963
You got the wrong #12.
>>63538004
>forces balls and gets upset with teammates
This he does do.
>>63537902
this is just about the exact opposite of why Peyton can't get it done in the playoffs.
>>63538018
nope, he was right to start with. GOAT #12 and GOAT QB
>>63537867
he has certain tendencies that may not affect a regular-season game too much, but blow up in his team's face big time in the postseason.
These anons
>>63537979
>>63538004
basically explain why
>>63537873
>beating Rex Grossman is more impressive than the 2006 pats in the AFC championship. Now that was a great fucking game
>>63538004
im a brady fan but the whole "always had probowl receivers argument" against any qb is weak. a lot of times the qb makes the receivers. sanders was a good receiver in pittsburgh, but he was nowhere near the threat he has become in denver. likewise, we see how minimal of an impact julius thomas is having in jacksonville. maybe it has to do a little bit with the system too, but lets consider that a lot of receivers are dependent on a competent quarterback for them to shine
unbiased opinion from a Pats fan:
he's always had an ok football mind but never a great arm or instincts, so whenever he plays a shit team he can shred them pieces, but whenever he plays a good defense he sucks
he can't improvise either, so if his first two reads are covered he'll just toss up a pass
even with top tier guys like #88 he still can't complete anything anymore
also why does nobody care that Marvin Harrison is a cold blooded murdering gangster?
>>63538077
the 06 bears kinda remind me of the '14 seahawks. really strong defense and a meme quarterback that just kinda chucks it up there and hopes for the best at times.
>>63538077
As a Pats fan, yeah but an Owl is an Owl. The Bears were, believe it or not, the best team the NFC had to offer. IIRC they had a top 5 offense and defense with Grossman. And we know how much Peyton leaned on Vinatieri throughout that run
>>63538091
except ruslel was healthy and didn't have kyle orton breathing down his neck for reps
also ruslel had beast mode
AFC South babby
>>63538129
this too. he had at least 4 guaranteed wins most years in Indy
AFCW is a joke too though senpai
>Raidniggers deluding themselves thinking their savior Derek Carr will lead them to the SB
>Chefsfags thinking they'll finish better than 8-8 despite their massive shitposting (which mysteriously disappeared. hmm)
>Chargers suck dick because no defense
>>63537867
He gets to play top teams.
Jaguars and Titans better days were long gone before they got stuck in the same division as the Colts, throw a shit-to-mediocre team like the Texans and you hand the Colts the division for a decade.
>>63537902
LeBron actually plays very well during the playoffs, you can always count on Peyton choking, even when he won the SB he played like shit.
>>63538109
Wilson's passer rating in 2014 was also 20+ points higher than Grossman's in 2006.
>>63538085
Never had a great arm or instincts?
I mean maybe now his arm is thrown off, and his "instincts" are slower, but to say he never had them is pretty strange. He's played well against great defenses before, and he's played badly against them, but he's certainly better on average then like 90% of qbs against those defenses.
Maybe he's a bit overrated, but to says he's not amazing is like re-writing history.
>>63537867
Because compared to other hall-of-fame QBs, he's mentally weak. He cracks under pressure. He was 100% carried to his only Owl win, he tried his best of screw that one up too.
>>63538209
I think the difference is more the sport than the mindset. Both try to do too much in the playoffs, but in basketball it looks like a good stat sheet and in football it looks like three picks and a fumble.
>>63538223
>He's played well against great defenses before, and he's played badly against them, but he's certainly better on average then like 90% of qbs against those defenses.
he's literally going to end his career under .500 in the playoffs
>he's mentally weak. He cracks under pressure
Archie affected Peyton's psyche as a child so as to weaken it indelibly. True or false
>>63538223
ryan leaf was almost picked over peypey in the draft because leafs arm was so much better
>>63538262
That wouldn't explain other QB that actually do well in the playoffs despite playing on 9-7 teams. Joe Flacco is a perfect example, dude has been playing with 2nd tier weapons and has managed to establish himself as a threat in the playoffs.
>>63538305
In bizarro NFL, the Colts pick Leaf in 1998 and the Chargers get Peyton. What happens for them and both teams for the next 15-20 years?
>>63538322
Peyton gets traded to NYG, 2 years later he gets BTFO by the 2000 Ravens.
>>63538322
The Chargers still choke hard as fuck.
>>63538314
Flacco's not great when he doesn't have a good defense to back him up. see: the 2015 season
that first run where they beat the Niners in the Super Bowl was an incredible hot streak, not indicative of his overall talent.
>>63538388
*see 2013 Nick Foles
>>63538400
As an eagles fan throughout my life, THIS
>>63538388
It isn't his only good run so far. In 15 playoffs games he has nine 90+ rating games, including six 100+ rating games. So far he has 25 TD against 10 Int, 21 of them in the last 3 trips.
In fact, his only bad games were in his first two seasons when the team actually had a top defense and didn't let Flacco throw the ball until the 4th quarter when Rice couldn't run for shit or they were losing.
Flacco seems to do "ok" in the season because the Ravens are still trying to figure out how to use a QB, they have always been a run first team, his offensive line was built around the run and every year there's a new OC. His best weapons have been Smith Sr, Boldin and Mason, all three way past their prime, even tho not exactly lame weapons. Yet in the playoffs, he seems to click with the coaches and they just let him rip the field.
>>63538179
>this too. he had at least 4 guaranteed wins most years in Indy
The AFC South was consistently one of the best divisions in the league when Manning was playing there you fucking retard
Actually, to this day, the 2007 AFC South still holds the record for the highest winning percentage as a division in NFL history.
