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I think Ronaldinho underachieved and could of done much much more. He had at least another World Cup win, two Champions League and 2-3 more balon d'ors.
This guy deserved to be born in Germany
>>63350446
>Unpopular opinions
Literally everyone agrees
How is this an unpopular opinion? Dinho's career started to go downhill at 26.
i think rooney still has a few united seasons left in him
>>63350469
>unpopular opinions
Robben is an honorable player who maintains the highest standards of respect and fair play in his game. He tries his best to avoid collisions, cares about teamwork, and is so much more than a one-footed pace baby.
>>63350446
do you even english?
thats what everyone thinks
Ronaldo was better than Messi
>>63350446
>unpopular
You're so fucking stupid
>>63350446
>think Ronaldinho underachieved and could of done much much more.
>Unpopular opinions
>>63350446
How is that an unpopular opinion? Pretty much fact; his peak was GOAT but short lived due to just not caring, no desire/work ethic. Just wanted to fuck big bunda and PlayStation
>>63350446
your opinion of this opinion being unpopular is unpopular.
Busquets is a top 3 DM of all time
England doesn't have not a single world class player.
C.Ronaldo is nowhere near Messi's level and never has been. He's never been 'far ahead' of the players considered below them, like Iniesta, Robben, Suare etc. either
Zidane wasn't as good as people say he was. I'd have quite a few players from that generation ahead of him if i were doing a ranking.
>>63350719
Right now? That's actually a popular opinion because it's true. People rating Rooney, Kane, Sterling etc. on here as world class is just to wind up JF, and it works every time.
>>63350719
The fact you think this is an unpopular opinion shows you have a pretty loose definiton of the term world class.
>>63350721
>Zidane wasn't as good as people say he was
You. I like you.
>>63350446
>could of
>>63350692
If Brazil won the 2006 World Cup, he probably would of been the modern day Mane Garrincha without the crippling alcoholism.
>>63350719
Rate Joe Hart, tbf.
Not too many keepers are better than him.
>>63350721
Just look at Cristiano's goal scoring record. He's still averaging over a goal a game after being there for 6 years. He scored 48 goals in a league season. Nobody apart from Messi can get close to that level.
Modric is the best DM in the world, his inuries hurt Madrid more than Ronaldo's.
>>63350721
>He's never been 'far ahead' of the players considered below them, like Iniesta, Robben, Suare etc. either
i think he has been superior than robben and suarez but not by a mile, if thats what you meant with "far ahead", i agree. actually i rate iniesta on par with cristiano.
the rest of your post is entirely true
>>63350692
>tfw no career to throw away with big bunda and playstation
JDIMSA
>>63350822
the quality of goals are so different though most of ronaldos goals are tap ins from his team mates licking his waxed ass and penalties
Hulk should be in a better club, he's based
>>63350638
This is true,
>could of
Stopped reading right there
>>63350822
>MUH STATS
Useless without context. His influence on big games is non-existent. Sorry but running up the score against cannon fodder doesn't make you the best player in the world.
Messi is on another level because not only does he match and sometimes better Ronaldo's goal output, but he's also the top playmaker too and actually influences games when he's not scoring. It baffles me how anyone can watch both players play and think that Ronaldo is anywhere near Messi.
>>63350885
Literally irrelevant. Ronaldo could sit down wanking on the pitch for 80 minutes every game, but he will still go down in history as one of the best because of his goalscoring record. 233 goals in 210 games in La Liga.
This man deserved to be born in Brazil.
>>63350834
Modric being labelled as a DM would certainly be unpopular.
Other than that, completely agree. Since leaving Tottenham, they have never played as well. He is one of those few players that on his own can change the style of play of a team for the better.
Most underrated midfielder.
>>63350920
>>MUH STATS
The point of the sport is to score goals. Ronny does it more than anyone else except for Messi. It's as simple as that
Modric is the best player in the world.
His team's quality drops by a mile when he's not there, unlike Messi
>>63350964
>The point of the sport is to score goals. Ronny does it more than anyone else except for Messi. It's as simple as that
Just not at World Cups where he doesn't have a billion pound team feeding him 20 chances per game :^)
>>63350774
He should have been there in 2010, some players even past their prime can make a difference and I'd take my chances with him
>>63350880
Life is suffering
Zidane being one of the best players ever is such a meme.
He was a great player, but massively over rated and over hyped by most people.
>>63350981
I wouldn't say he's the best but most important maybe.
Madrid fall apart without him.
>>63351016
Zidane was every bit as good as people say he was. Just not consistently over the course of the season. Bergkamp is the same. The reason these type of players get rated so highly is because they're the ones that transcend the sport into an art form.
>>63351084
holy reddit
Neymar will be better than Messi and is currently the third best player in the world behind Messi and Ronaldo.
>>63351040
bu-bu-bu-but Ronaldo is GOAT!
>>63351108
>tf
>tt
od
>>63350616
That's not an unpopular opinion. That's an outright untruth.
>>63351084
bergkamp > zidane
deal with it
>>63351084
You can't seriously compare Zidane and Bergkamp if you were old enough to see them play old enough to understand something about the game.
Bergkamp was truly inconsistant.
>>63350941
Who cares they're all niggers after all
>>63351108
>Neymar better than Suarez
>Ronaldo still in the top 2
kek
Also Neymar will never reach Messi's level. Even if we compare them at the same age Messi still shits on him from a great height. There's only 1 or 2 players in history that can possibly compare with Messi. Neymar won't even reach Rivaldo/Ronaldinho level.
>>63351152
Both were inconsistent. Both had 10/10 technique. Zidane is rated higher purely because of his NT success and because he played for RM.
People who rate Zidane over Bergkamp are youtube fanboys or North African scumbags
People who rate Bergkamp higher are usually multiple degree holding intellectuals with a real passion for being correct
We wouldn't even be having this debate about Zidane if Ronaldo didn't have his seizure right before the 98 World Cup final. If Brazil won (which they should of) Zidane would of been forgotten.
>>63351208
>>63351178
Bergkamp was litterally Berbatov level. Nothing more, just nostalgia from Arsenal fans (where he wasn't always a starter).
Never relevant with his national team even if it was as stacked as France.
damn, that britfaggot trashing zidane in every thread really did his job well, now it became a fad
I don't believe he was the greatest player ever, which is a dumb notion but denying that he belongs to the best is just stupid
>>63351273
>should of
>would of
>>63351277
>Never relevant with his national team even if it was as stacked as France.
>was in the team of the tournament for WC 98
>>63351158
messi had the chance to play for a top club earlier on, 2011 neymar was already world class tbqh
>>63351158
You're trying to imply Messi is better than Ronaldinho at his peak?
>>63351354
The nostalgia babbies have gone too far (actually I doubt you even watched football 10 years ago when Ronaldinho was at his peak).
Messi is far ahead of the level Ronaldinho was at.
>>63351277
Bergkamp averaged a goal or assist every 2 games for ten years at Arsenal. One of the GOATs. Berbatov literally had one good season.
>>63351282
Algerian spotted desu
>>63351327
>2011 neymar was already world class
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>63351289
why is it always anglos that do this?
>>63350721
The problem is that Ronaldo has actually proved himself in different leagues, as well as carries his national team constantly. Messi has only played in a 2 team league where he's basically guaranteed wins. He has done fuck all for his national team, as well.
That's why CR7 should be rated higher.
>>63351084
Popular opinion, this guy's a cunt
>>63352031
The PL was a 1 Team League when Ronaldo played there, stop spouting memes and go actually watch the sport.
Brits wish that Klose was English but they'll never admit it
Lampard is the best English midfielder of this generation. Yes even better than Scholes.
>>63351011
You can blame Dunga for that, everyone was screaming at him to call up Ronaldinho. And I agree, Dinho would of made a difference especially in the match against the Netherlands.
>>63352031
>carries his national team constantly
Getting eliminated in a group with USA and Ghana or Losing to Greece in a final.
He played in 8 Major tournaments (3 Euros and 3 WC) for a total of 8 goals. Averaging 1 goal a tournament, that's pretty GOAT tbh_Fam_
>>63352031
>He has done fuck all for his national team
Are we just now going to forget that Messi has taken Argentina to 3(three) major finals in the last 5 years?
>>63350446
That's not unpopular. At some point he looked like the best footballer ever and people actually talked about him on this level, which didn't really happen with Ronaldo.
>Manchester City was trying to get Ronaldinho for £25 million
Good thing they didn't, in hindsight
>>63351558
you're ignorant af
>>63351273
Brazil would have lost either way.
>>63353778
That webm doesnt prove your point. It just proves that the Brazilian league and defenses are a joke.
>>63353906
>tf
>td
od
you can use this inversion argument for any goal
>>63351354
Yes.
The only footballer that was truly on Messi's level was 95-00 Ronaldo, before exploding knees. Romário could've reached this level if he were less of a "I play because I like playing, just don't expect me to train or work for the team" guy and more of a professional athlete.
Ronaldinho is quite a ways below that (but still above Memedane), even if he was still a world-class footballer in PSG and during his time in Milan (though not GOAT anymore).
And Nerman obviously will never be as good as Messi/Fatnaldo/Romário/Dinho/Rivaldo.
>>63351273
There's really no debate between Fatnaldo and Zidane for anyone that saw them both in the 90s (and that includes Juve fans).
prime Ronaldo was two whole levels above Zidane, the comparisons between them only got out of hand in the 00s after they went to RM.
>>63350941
he has been raped by german enough as it is
The brazilian league was the best in the world during the 50s to 70s (literally had more world-class players than any euro league) and top 3 in the 80s through 1995 when the Bosman ruling changed football forever.
After reaching a low point in the mid-00s, it's climbed back up to the 5th or 6th best league quality-wise.
Not only that, the average brazilian top-division player (think of a mediocre player, the kinds of which fights for a spot in Southampton or Getafe, the average joe) is widely better than the average french, spanish or even argentinian player, losing only to the average EPL player (since even their smallest clubs can just buy quality players from around the world) and Bundasliga player (good academies, good financial power, good football tradition). Makes it for an entertaining watch all-around, if not top level.
That being said it relatively declined a lot since the golden ages.
The USSR was the most glorious sporting power of all time and no matter how hard any country tries they will never emulate its success
>>63354479
Bosman ruling is a scapegoat, it was already declining in the 80s, when our best player left the country to play for Udinese in his peak. Romário left early and peaked in Europe. Ronaldo didn't even get to make a name in Brazil before leaving.
That's all before the Bosman ruling.
Brazil is simply poor and cannot get its best players until the country stops being poor or exempts athletes and clubs from paying taxes altogether.
>>63354845
meant *keep not get
>>63354845
Absolutely true.
But still, I only meant to highlight some of the Rio-São Paulo championships Pelé's Santos, especially the ones involving Garrincha's Botafogo, 50's Vasco (which served as a base for the NT at the time) and Didi's Fluminense were more difficult than entire euro leagues at the time.
I just see /sp/ morons posting some silly stuff from time to time, such as "Pelé never played in Europe, he only played against farmers and miners", when he made an entire career actually playing against teams superior to anything Europe had to offer at the time (including Eusébio's Benfica), save perhaps DiStefano's RM.
Not that I mean to whiteknight for that limpdick viagra-eating old fart, it's just for the sake of historical accuracy.
>>63354479
>the average brazilian top-division player (think of a mediocre player, the kinds of which fights for a spot in Southampton or Getafe, the average joe) is widely better than the average french, spanish or even argentinian player
>spanish
I don't understand that, if the average brazilian player is around the same level as a squad player for getafe, a bottom of the league player, then how these players are better than the average spanish players?
>>63355064
That's because you're making an incorrect assumption. Getafe is a midtable La Liga team, not a perennial relegation candidate, bottom-of-the-table team.
They've been in La Liga for a solid 11 years now.
>>63355130
>>63355064
Hell, lately they've even been qualifying to the Europa League.
>>63355164
they ended up 15th last year, 13th in the 2013/2014 season and they're currently 14th they're not relegation candidate but still a lower than average la liga team
and even then you were talking about the kind of players who would struggle to get games for them
>>63354479
>Not only that, the average brazilian top-division player is widely better than the average french, spanish or even argentinian player
and then people say argentinians are arrogant
>>63355955
do you guys have the equivalent of europa league in south america?
>>63356038
Copa Sul Americana, I think
>>63356152
doesn't really count
the entry system is not the same as Europa League, league champions can still enter it, and the prize money is so, so small compared to the Brasileirão and Libertadores (which are already ridiculous compared to european competitions) many clubs simply do not give a shit
>>63350446
How is that unpopular?
Everyone knows that if he wouldn't have liked cocaine and whores so much, he could've been THE goat. And I'm talking better than Messi.
>>63356277
>and the prize money is so, so small compared to the Brasileirão and Libertadores (which are already ridiculous compared to european competitions) many clubs simply do not give a shit
so exactly like europa league
>>63356421
yes, but divide it by 20
is the unpopular opinion actually that this opinion is unpopular? guys this is next level shit
>>63350928
Who cares what some dickhead born in 20 years thinks of today's players? We get to watch them now and make our own judgement.
>>63356509
more like 10, and it's the same with champions league and copa libertadores
I hate Brazilian fans and I hope they don't win a world cup for at least another 2-3 decades. But i'd rather have Brazil win the cup over Argentina and England who I hate more.
Ronaldinho took too much ''roids'' in barcelona to become "stronger" but he became slower and fat times later.
>>63350754
>I like you
You gay senpai, you in 4chan, we don't say shit like that
>inb4 "we"
kek
>>63350700
I actually agree with this.
Busquets is the GOAT at what he does
It goes:
1- Messi
2- Robben
3- Suarez
4- Neymar
5- Cr7
Neymar>Willian>Memedinho
I think people tend to overrate Ronaldinho because of his Youtube vids:
He made great perfomances, for example that game on the Bernabeu or semifinals against Milan. He totally changed Barcelona for good.
But in many games he was irrelevant: In 2006 he was the best player in the world, and he didn't do shit in CL finals or World Cup.
Won 2002 won cup, yes, but he was, in responsability, beyond Ronaldo or Rivaldo.
The kind of things he did and how he did it, that magic driblles and that, make people overrate him.
The best Ronaldinho was thousands of miles away of the best Ronaldo.
Rubens Barrichello was the legitimate world champion of 2009 and Jenson Button is a complete fraud.
I think people who use CR7 instead of just saying Ronaldo deserves to be shot.
>>63363885
I think people who refer to CR7 as Ronaldo and not Cristiano or C.Ronaldo deserves to be shot
Only literal autists and Dorftrottel follow F1.
:)
Peyton Manning will always be better than Tom Brady
6 MVPs, an Owl, all the records, ROTY, Comeback Player of the Year, Holder of the best quarterback season of all time > 2 MVPs and 4 Owls
- I honestly think C.Ronaldo is way overrated
- Messi is the best player I ever witnessed, maybe even the best there ever was (not an unpopular opinion) .
>>63363868
What the fuck, explain that one Hans.
They were in the same car all year and Button shat all over Rubens.
>>63363911
this
and that
ronaldo will be at best a top 25 player of all time in 25 years.
if anything messi is underrated.
>>63363917
ABE cannot be explained mate.
>>63350446
Mike Ashley is a good owner and has rescued Newcastle from financial ruin. The football has been turgid and signings have not always been made often enough but he's done most things right.
This might not be an unpopular opinion in the real world, but probably is here. I genuinely enjoy listening to Kygo. His live show fuckin sucks, but he has some bretty cool songs.
There is literally nothing wrong with diving, pretending injutes and/or wasting time
Romário is very overrated, only had two great important performances for the NT (against Uruguay in the qualifiers and Netherlands in the quarter-finals). Because of that chance he missed, he would be considered a choker today if Brazil hadn't won the shootouts of the final.
Senna is also absurdly overrated. Yeah he was very good, maybe the best, at getting pole positions and running under raining, but not even close to being the best in other aspects of the sport. Prost was better, and Schumacher is a complete tier of his own.
(this is unpopular in Brazil)
Vardy should replace Rooney on the 1st team and have the latter be a sub instead. In fact he should start thinking of retirement 2bh.
I hate this desu shit 2bh
>>63363986
I don't think anyone but the most deluded Man U fans think Rooney should be starting anymore. He's utterly useless against any half decent opposition, and even against shite he can only score penalties.
>>63352320
>>63352320
>The PL was a 1 Team League when Ronaldo played there
What the fuck did I just read
The PL was literally the best league in the world back then, nothing you can compare to the Eredivisie-tier it is now
>>63363868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m-msfQOv9U
>>63350446
>Expecting a nigger not to be lazy
>>63364005
>Eredivisie-tier
What does this even mean
>>63351273
>If Brazil won (which they should of)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5dU9D8Ef9o
Pls watch the actual match before saying shit like this. Brazil was completely outplayed in this match
>>63364010
Pelé never smoked or drank alcohol, played 4 world cups in his life and won 3 (three) of them, something no one else will ever achieved.
Fuck off back to >>>/pol/
>>63364037
butthurt nigger detected
>>63364037
I will when you stop being a lazy nigger
>>63364048
>>63364061
Insecure white cuccs detected
>>63364066
>implying I care what you call me here
Don't take everything so personal
>>63363917
Outside of the fact that Barrichello outqualified and outperformed Button and had Brawn GP cost him 20-odd points, sure, Button shat all over Rubens.
>>63364048
nope
4chan losers thinking they are better than someone else because of their skin colour, much more someone who actually achieved something in his life like Ronaldinho, is just pathetic and can't go without response.
>>63350469
Overrated shit.
Peak Nani was better.
>>63364074
>personal
you literally what? you weren't even quoting me
kys you racist wanker
>>63364066
Figures we talk about lazy niggers and Argentina shows up
>>63363909
This is the opinion of literally everybody except for the numerous brady shills on this board
>>63363909
Manning is literally the Lebron James of football. Dam good but only ever managed to luck his was into an Owl
>>63364100
>call someone out on being butthurt
>call someone a nigger one 4chan of all places
>racist
Sure m8, whatever floats your boat nigger
>>63364117
call me that way to my face and see what comes about
>>63364130
>>63364130
Nigger
>>63364150
>>63364157
grow up
>>63364172
>grow up
I was posting an unpopular opinion 2bh.
>>63364175
It isn't unpopular, most people in the world think they are argentine
>>63358284
Who don't you hate senpai?
>>63363863
I typically don't count Dinho in 2002 since he wasn't one of the key players of that tournament. Unlike Ronaldo and Rivaldo.
>>63350446
Brazilian players need less fucking nicknames
>>63364218
50% of them are called Souza, Silva, Pereira or Alves
>>63364183
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War
>>63364036
I know it's an excuse, but the Brazilian team was demoralized and worried about Ronaldo before and during the match. They went out there with the wrong mindset. Ronaldo shouldn't of even been in that match. Do you really think that game would of played out the same way if Ronaldo was completely healthy and nothing happened beforehand?
>>63363863
>playing well in the world cup final or CL final is important (even if your team wins in anyway) but having GOD-tier ability and consistently destroying teams over a period of years is not important
okay then
0/10
>best United player over the last 15 years
>>63364270
Yea this should keep him quiet... not.
>>63364301
>borat
2007 called, they want their playground memes back
>>63364332
Don't speak to me, Slobodan.
Paul Breitner: "Poland was the best team of 1974."
Nerman is Robinho 2.0
Was Dinho ever part of Brazils Copa America wins?
>>63366760
Yeah, the 99 one, his first caps for the NT.
>>63350909
U could of kept reeding u no.
>>63350446
Br's don't care. they always reach the top then it's all party and bunda.
>>63351277
Truly an unpopular opinion
>>63364289
>using two examples
>saying that those examples made his entire career unvalid
logic
>>63350857
>still rating iniesta this highly
what fucking year is this?
>>63364035
shit tier you ugly brit
Rooney's been shit ever since he became a second striker
Maradona was better than Messi.
The Womens World Cup means absolutely nothing and is just a token competition. The only reason the US cares about it is because we suck at men's football. I guarantee you when the US wins the real World Cup we'll stop caring about the women's world cup.
