>Younger, traditional style QBs like Tannehill and Luck have had rough losing seasons and are trending down.
>Old, tradional style QBs like Pey Pey and Brady are fossils pushing 40.
>Meme QBs like Russlel and $cam are praised in the media and are constantly talked about as the next great rivalry.
How do you feel about the rise of meme QBs?
Will this be the start of a trend for the next few decades in the NFL?
>>65031283
>"traditional" QBs need o-lines because they're literally o-line babbies
>"traditional" QBs cant make any plays unless they have hall of fame wide receivers
>Meme QBs can buy themselves time and make plays with their feet even with horrific receivers
Aside from Brady every other """"""great"""""" QB's success can be traced back to the o-line and their GOAT receivers
>>65031283
Cam and Wilson are both good and deserving of praise. Tannehill sucks, and Luck just had a down year. Luck will be the top QB in the league in 2 years
If you have a problem with it then you should have played QB and made it to the NFL. There was no white QB in cams draft class that you would pick over him in hindsight. They just don't make good white QB's anymore for some reason, so if you want to win a championship your gonna need the best meme QB you can find.
>>65031327
>Aside from Brady
You mean especially Brady.
Nigger plays like a scared bitch when people are pressuring him.
Wilson is damn good and i see him getting at least 1 more ring. Rodgers has been more like a meme qb this year.
>>65031477
Brady has had "literally who" receivers his whole career aside from the 18-1 season
>>65031497
Brady would be a "literally who" if not for Belicheat.
>>65031477
He didn't even get sacked last game with supposedly and """""""elite"""""" defense. He was hurried 5 times.
>>65031283
If they want sustain there careers both Newton and Wilson will have to switch to a more traditional style eventually.
Also Smith is a pretty good young traditional QB.
>>65031283
Luck isn't really a traditional pocket passed type of QB. There is still Flacco and Rodgers who is just over 30 and Dalton and Cousins who are even younger, all of them had good seasons.
Why does everyone on /sp/ hate scramblers anyway? I understand shitting on Kaep who can't throw two completions in a row to save his life, but there are also guys like Tyrod who is both a fast mofo and a good passer. Are those just faggots from /pol/ pushing their white powah agenda?
>>65031526
>Chefs
>elite
>>65031477
>patriots playing 3rd string guards and centers at tackle this year because of injury
>gronk hobbling for several games, no edelman for half the season, amendola missing games and being hurt
>dion lewis (dank RB) and 2nd string Blount go on IR, down to 3rd string literally who James White and 76 in Madden OVR Steven Jackson
>calling brady an o-line baby
>continually has top 5 offense with who lineman and WR
Confirmed for retard
>>65031592
Wait, I thought I had deleted that part about Flacco, he wasn't about shit this year.
>>65031477
holy fuck you're retarded
>>65031637
Brady was a pocketbabby, though.
I agree that he has been great this year, but he did used to struggle
>>65031637
brady didn't get sacked once last game you fucking mongoloid. He literally faced 0 pressure.
Sack Brady 3 times over the course of a game and he will play terrible the WHOLE game.
>>65031526
Did you watch the game? Edelman had 10 catches on 16 targets. Other than Gronk, who was like 4/7, Nobody else had more than 4 total targets. The game plan was to isolate edelman and use quick AF passes. The TV announcers were even timing and commenting saying his release time was less than 2 seconds. 2 SECONDS NIGGER. I couldn't even come that fast, even if I tried. So considering edelman was roughly half of Brady's attempts, he was zinging it out to him in the flats and over the middle at the sticks moving the chains. The patriots full knew they aren't capable of blocking for long time, so they get the ball out fast. Brady is not a fucking o-line baby you retard, the patriots are just smart enough to adjust their game to quick high percentage passes that move the sticks and keep drives alive. Its what peypey and other good qb's do. Dissect defenses, take what they give you, exploit individual personnel mismatches.
Confirmed for retard.
>>65031477
He only plays like a scared bitch when he has to do anything other than pass, like he's afraid to tackle.
>>65031283
Football is changing just like it always has. The running game used to be the centerpiece of an offense, nowadays most teams don't even have a fullback. Possession and field position meant more. Then came the west coast offense. Then everyone had a west coast offense. Rules changed to protect QBs and receivers. A franchise QB who is at least in the "hurr durr elite or nah" conversation is now more or less a prerequisite to success. Why pump money into a secondary full of killers when the rules literally restrict them from doing their jobs?
QBs sell tickets and the rules have changed to cater to them. Smart franchises are finding ways to use that to their advantage.
>>65031710
>Last year SB
>Seattle pass rush Bennet/Irvin sacked him couple times and hurried him often
>Brady wasn't having the best game but hung in there
>4th quarter leads them on 2 long TD drives in the clutch
I'd still rather have Brady as my QB over anyone. You gotta give the other defenses credit in the playoffs for being good enough to get to the highest stage (denver D this year pretty fucking great) so if Brady gets sacked twice...he's still going to put some points on the board and always keep it close and most of the time win. He never let's his team down in any game, when he is under fucktons of pressure it affects him, but that's the same for literally any pocket passer dude. He just makes up for it by quick release, and understanding defenses pre snap so he can get the ball out of there fast before he gets sacked. He doesnt take sacks cause he stands in there too long. He also moves around the pocket well, even though he's not a fast guy or even a great athlete he senses pressure and steps up and around to make throws. Especially last year or 2 he has actually improved his pocket mobility, everyone has been noticing and talking about how he's worked on that aspect of his game. Even more crazy to think how he's adding mobility at the age of 37 to his game...but keep on hating kid
>>65031803
>Why pump money into a secondary full of killers when the rules literally restrict them from doing their jobs?
You can blame the Raidniggers for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZBCOqUotAs
>>65031384
>They just don't make good white QB's anymore for some reason,
They certainly make them, the problem is the college recruiters are flooding the college league with black QBs because a fast running back who can occasionally make a deep pass is better than a pocket passer. It's the current recipe for easily improving a college season record.
That and most college coaches are leading the nation in consumption of cuckold porn. These white coaches probably convince their black qbs to fuck their wives while they watch.
>>65031637
You forgot Lafell who is being paid by the jets to drop passes
but there is a light of hope
>>65031283
>traditional QBs are ded
You so funny.
>>65031939
Lol at how insecure white guys are. Jesus. Why are you guys always thinking about black dick? Is it latent homosexuality?
>>65032046
>7-9
>>65032012
>1st in NFC Least
>one and done in the playoffs
This is what I meant by having a rough season. There is always the future though.
>>65032079
People forget Brady was a meme qb for a couple years
>game manager
>defense baby
>"the gloved one" that was my favorite
Using "Meme qbs" as a phrase shows how fucking casual your joke ass is
>>65032562
I've heard the word meme applied to every single team, coach and player.
>>65031646
To be fair, Flacco worked with an injured Oline and 3rd line receivers this season under Mark Trestman.
He'll be back.
>>65031283
>rise of meme qbs
we literally said the same thing about rgiii, kaepernick, and vick back in 2012 and 13. they're good now, but wait till they're a little more beat up
>>65031367
>Luck will be the top QB in the league in 2 years
-Everyone, literally every day since 2012
>>65031939
>hehe it's a big liberul conspiraseee XD
Lel kill yourself faggot
>>65031283
The NFL has dealt with meme QBs since fucking Doug Flutie, don't act like it is something new.
>>65031776
Luck throws some many INTs, he's perfected tackling.
>>65031327
Yea. Cuz Brady never played with a HoF WR or TE
>>65031327
>Aside from Brady every other """"""great"""""" QB's success can be traced back to the system and their GOAT coaches
FTFY
>>65032623
/sp/ is still salty about being contrarians who said RG3 would have a better career lmao
>>65031776
>this """"man"""" calls himself a football player
>>65031776
Haha fuck, someone show that clip where cam blocks a guy and basically takes him out too
>>65032752
>>65033355
This is the best one
>laying out a fucking USC linebacker and forcing a fumble
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pFbqCrTzdzs
>>65032664
But that's not at all what he said.
>>65031776
LOOK GUISE, I FOUND A RANDOM GIF OF BRADY DOING THAT THING I SAID HE DOES!
Cherrypicking at it's finest. Show the gif of Brady vs. the Redskins from earlier this season faggot.
>>65032046
You Raidniggers are insufferable faggots. Carr ain't shit and never will be, now fuck off with this shitty meme.
>>65033116
Whoa, two(2) guys in 15 years! That's quite a lineup of HoFer's you got there.
Is this a fucking joke?
>>65033591
I'll pray for you :)
>>65033644
Still two more than about 80% of he other qbs. Who else played with a HoF receiver? Maybe Big Ben? Palmer? Did Manning? Romo? Stafford? Certainly not Rodgers, Cam, or Wilson
>>65032612
>vick
do you mean the mike vick who was literally in like the 9th year of his career in 2012?
because he's not a meme like those other 2
>>65033447
Holy fuck.
>>65031527
> alex smith
> young
Pick one
>>65032612
>vick
>2012
>>65034031
>Praying
Kill yourself my man.
>>65034044
Big Ben had Hines Ward, arguably a HoFer. Palmer is garbage. Manning had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne in their primes. Romo has Dez Bryant and had Terrell Owens. Stafford has Megatron. Rodgers had Donald Driver who isn't really a HoFer but was very, very good and consistent. Cam hasn't had any, though he hasn't been around that long but Greg Olsen is emerging as a top tier player. Wilson doesn't have any household name WR's but they're solid, though Lynch was the focal point of the team for a while until this season.
So your point is pretty non-existent. Also, Brady only really had one year with Moss since he got hurt in '08 and Randy was starting to really decline after that year.
>>65033447
Kek that was shareece wright the worlds worst corner
Leave the NFL to me
>>65036086
>Being a godless heathen
>>65031327
>you can be a great QB when there's two three hundred pound guys in your face after 2 seconds every play
Luck and Rodgers run just as much as someone like Cam, RG3 and Cap ran all the time and they crashed because of it.
>>65036450
>I cant move
>I dont have legs
>>65031776
As opposed to going for the tackle and breaking his thumb like that red headed idiot out of cinci?
>>65031283
we are seeing the rise of the overpaid meme QB
especially Russ and Kap
and there are plenty of traditional QBs gaining traction Carr, Kirk
>>65031776
yeah and look at Andy Dalton now (broken hand, fucked the whole season)
now you understand football better
>>65033189
Cuckell wilson had a better career than both of thme. Luck is nothing more than a stat padding babby who throws picks and plays in a shit conference so he goes to the playoffs often
>>65032217
if they had top 5 defenses like the memes they would be fine
>>65036852
>Kirk
>Best achievement so far is spawning a meme and winning the NFC Least when every team was dogshit
>>65031776
49ers won this game, too. I remember watching this play live. Watching him hesitate like that made my sides go to orbit. Fuckin' memories, man.
It just me or are o-lines getting worse?
He'll be better next year.
>>65036968
nope
>>65037107
>Literally had forgotten about Romo
Maybe he won't get injured again.
>>65034044
Fitz is a HOFer for sure. And did you really just list STAFFORD?
>>65033644
Randy Moss
Wes Welker
Gronk
Edelman now
are all locks for the HOF
>>65031731
Literally no point in responding to anyone on /sp/ who calls players a meme or use other flavor of the month memes like we're seeing with """""_____"""""". These fucks don't know shit about football
unless you are tom brady like with one of the best coaches in NFL history, i'll take wilson and cam over those other whiteys their in their age group. i'll just not give as much protection since they can run around and spend it on a defense. just send them to a minor league team to learn how to slide properly. :)
>>65037361
Only locks on that list are Moss and Gronk.
>>65037107
get crushed more, faggot.
>>65031283
>Tannehill is a traditional QB because he's white
>played fucking wide receiver in college and converted for the pro game
>>65031527
>Alex "read option all my life" Smith is a traditional QB
So much /pol/-based retardation ITT
>>65037361
Welker definitely won't get in, Edelman probably won't get in.
Casuals don't understand how exclusive the football HoF is, it's not the fucking pro bowl
>>65031283
>Younger, traditional style QB's like Tannehill and Luck have had rough losing seasons
Yeah, they did. Way to cherry pick you fucking faggot.
>ignoring all the other young traditional style QB's who had relatively successful seasons
>ignoring Winston, Bortles, Carr, Dalton (still relatively young), etc.
Eat shit.
>white qbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xdI9ghgqQY
>>65038970
>Winston, Bortles, Carr, Dalton
>relatively successful seasons
How much did you lose this season /bet/?
>>65039062
>I can't separate individual performance from team record
>>65039096
Football's a team sport senpai.
How many great QBs never went anywhere and will never be talked about cuz they had teams that couldn't win?
>>65039144
Those QBs played well. They have bright futures as their teams improve.
>>65039062
That pics not real
>>65039245
Jody is very real senpai
>>65036171
>Believing in a giant, invisible man in the sky
>Practicing a religion that blatantly rips off all religions that came before it and has more holes than swiss cheese
Wew lad.
Carson Palmer just had a career year as a 36 year old statue.
anyone can cherry pick.
>>65037361
Filthy casual detected.
Moss is the only sure-fire HoFer. Gronk still has to play at this level for at least 2-3 more years before he has a shot. Welker? Lolno. Edelman, as great as he is, he's not HoF caliber.
Like >>65037602 said, the HoF is exclusive as fuck, you don't get in there just for being a great player, that's the most basic requirement of all.
>>65039884
Having Larry Fitzmagic is a huge help.
>>65032601
Welcome to /sp/
>>65031776
He's got his own technique
![Jameis-Winston-crab-legs-face[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wMombDC.jpg "Jameis-Winston-crab-legs-face[1].jpg")
>forgetting the future GOAT
>>65036053
yes during his resurgence with the eagles.
>>65036086
>Big Ben had Hines Ward, arguably a HoFer. Palmer is garbage. Manning had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne in their primes. Romo has Dez Bryant and had Terrell Owens. Stafford has Megatron. Rodgers had Donald Driver who isn't really a HoFer but was very, very good and consistent. Cam hasn't had any, though he hasn't been around that long but Greg Olsen is emerging as a top tier player. Wilson doesn't have any household name WR's but they're solid, though Lynch was the focal point of the team for a while until this season.
You're cherry picking and very terribly I might add, even when you give credit it's still a "yeah but so and so had player ____" I mean SOMEONE has to catch the ball guy.
>>65031858
Wonder how Brady would have done back then, but fuck those Raiders DBs sure are the niggest nigs nigging
>>65031283
I think people look at it the wrong way
People see TB and PM and think, why aren't all these other QBs like that? Rather these two are freaks, above and beyond normal. Normal is the shit you see from guys like Luck and Stafford and Rodgers this year. Meme QBs will come and go because they do stand out from normal for a while before defenses accommodate (like they did with the wildcat).
QB play is going to drop once TB and PM go, but it'll reset everyone's idea about QBs - which will be better for the rest of the current guys
>>65042961
But there were always 2/3 GOAT passers per decade
We had Montana, Marino and Elway in the 80s, Favre and Young in the 90s, Brady and Peyton in the 00s (and Brees to a lesser extent). And in the 10s? The best QBs have still been old men Brady and Peyton with Rodgers the only new one who can hope to reach the level of aforementioned QBs
>>65031283
NFL will be dead before they take over.
>>65031327
Lol u ever seen Brady without his starting oline, he's fucking garbage
