>Mourinho was actually sacked
What's the point? It's guaranteed Chelsea won't reach 4th place at this point anyways, no matter the manager, and they wouldn't be relegated (no, friend, they wouldn't). They will finish mid-table.
Besides, Chelsea pulled decent performances in the Champions League and went through to the KO stage under Mourinho. That earns him more trust. He wouldn't win the title, but no other manager will either.
Dortmund was in the relegation zone last season 17 rounds in, and they kept Klopp until the end of the it.
What does /sp/ think? What do Chelsea fans think? Wrong move by Abramovich?
Dortmund was different as they created a shit load of chances but were too ineffective.
As for Chelshit, Mou has lost the locker room. It was the right call to fire him
>>64383186
They are 11 points behind 4th. If they win, say 4 games in a row, that deficit will be reduced to like 6. They certainly can make 4th place. Which is why Mou was sacked, the team will begin to play better.
>They certainly can make 4th place.
Not "certainly". It's very, very unlikely that they'll make 4th place. Look at the points totals for the 4th placed teams the last few years:
>2010-11: 68
>2011-12: 69
>2012-13: 73
>2013-14: 79
>2014-15: 70
Chelsea has 18 points from 17 games so far. They'd need a minimum of 50 points from the next 21 games to have a shot at 4th, or 2.38 points per game. Last season, when they easily won the title, they had 2.28 points per game. So basically, Chelsea need to play better than they did last season to even have a chance of finishing 4th. It's probably not happening.
It was the wrong decision unless something very serious was cooking backstage, which is too likely considering we're talking about Mourinho.
>>64383186
Because the players didnt want to play for him
FFS so obvious
You are a Hue.
Like it happens often in Brazil, the players boycotted him and underperformed so that he would be sacked.
The team owner had to make the choice of keeping those players or keeping Mourinho. He decided to keep the players. Terry himself said that.
>>64383334
>As for Chelshit, Mou has lost the locker room. It was the right call to fire him
I would have replaced the team.
This just shows that the players control the team, no manager can succeed if the players don't like him and play badly on purpose.
>>64387952
Is there any team other than Chelsea where this is common?
They sacked Scolari, AVB and now Mourinho.
I can only think of Real Madrid.
>>64388049
united will probably sack LvG soon
Chelsea would have been relegation folders had Mourinho stayed in charge for a bit longer, they were that bad. Clearly there had been internal issues going on, some the public saw, and others hidden. It was the best decision even though Chelsea fans are so retarded they can't fathom basic business decisions
Remember that the prize money you get at the end of the season increases with your position in the final table. So it's possible that even though they might have had to pay Mourinho £40m to go (and they didn't; it was only about £10m), Roman Abramovic might make that back by finishing tenth instead of 17th. I don't know the exact numbers, though. Also, I can't see all the players suddenly deciding to become Jose's besties at the end of the season. They'd still have the same problem, so why not get a new manager now, and give him the rest of this season to get to know everybody?
Also, you couldn't buy a new Chelsea team for £40m. Jose Mourinho in particular really couldn't.
The fedora version of why he was sacked is because of le evil plotting Shevchenko
>>64383186
Who gives a shit.
Mou will land on sweetest job in Premier League with unlimited money to spend. Mou just did what DiMaria did and gave up to get better job. Watch him destroy Chelsea with United and watch him sell Mata back to Chelsea for 40million.
>>64387613
USA laying down the facts
>>64390235
>mou wins
>he's a genius
>mou loses
>he's a genius
this cocksucking should stop Estonia
>>64390049
>so why not get a new manager now, and give him the rest of this season to get to know everybody?
Because Chelsea are finished right now. They're literally current everton tier at this point. The squad is shit, Roman isn't spending anymore and even if he did the two clubs from Manchester can spend twice as much. Their youth can't make it even in Eredivisie and their fanbase is smaller than Liverpool and Arsenal(who are now starting to wake up). Add the fact that they had to build a new stadium and you realize the position they're in.
City is getting Pep, United are getting anyone but Van Laal and Klopp can build his squad. Wenger could win the league and spend a little more next season.
Now picture Chelsea with no Ch.l money, not being able to attract top targets and new mediocre manager(Pellegrini at best). Hiddink is just an interim it doesn't matter if he learns the team.
Chelsea are beyond fucked. It probably is a turning page in their short history. At least with Mourinho you know they could have a chance to overachieve. Now, it's over.
>>64390311
This entire post is terrible.
He plays literally the most boring pragmatic football in the world. Sure he can get some pretty results like the 6-3 win against Everton but his core ethos is 'win first and in any way possible'.
I bet some of the flair players were tired of his shitty attacking coaching and his antics. The guy has been an embarrassment these last few years.
>>64390722
The formatting and the English, probably.
The points, no.
>>64390776
Yeah, Chelsea have a ton of trophies who cares about trophies desu senpai
>>64390847
Yeah, it sure is gratifying to watch shit football 38 times a season to watch the team lift a trophy for 10 minutes.
>>64390792
In what possible way is Chelsea's squad terrible?
GKs: Courtois, Begovic
CBs: Terry, Zouma, Cahill
R/LBs: Azpilicueta, Ivanovic, Baba Rahman
DMs: Matic, Mikel
CMs: Fabregas, Ramires, Loftus-Cheek
AMs: Willian, HAZARD, Oscar
Strikers: Costa, Remy, Lelcao
This is in no way a bad squad, it's just an underperforming squad. What they need is a new striker, and they'll get that in January. When they have a guy up front who can actually score, the rest of the team will become more confident and they'll be playing better. Maybe they'll go for a new CB too and other additions. You think they can't attract anyone but they really can, money and prestige always will get players. They are also 11 points away from 4th place, which isn't an impossible amount to make back.
>>64390908
Oh come one that's hipster football talk.
Like some cucks in Greece who don't care about euro 2004 because ''the other teams played better''.
Only a plastic would be above trophies come to think of it
>>64390977
Their whole Defense is in shambles. I personally don't rate anyone except Azpilicueta. Terry is old, Ivanovic will leave in the summer and Zouma is a donkey. He is athletic but you can't afford to have a defender in the modern game who can't pass without looking at the ball. In midfield they're really thin especially if you consider that Matic after the injury has never played the same and that Fabregas has months that plays horribly.Not weeks, whole months. The AMs could click but they haven't show that all these years they played together. And realistically Hazard could leave too. Finally they're on the market for a top Striker yet again. A Striker who will have to settle for no c.l for a year.
If you still believe that Chelsea can reach top 4 reread the thread where someone explains it. The squad is only one of the problems I listed and if even every single player steps up his game they're still miles behind City or potentially United.
>>64383911
this delusion
>>64391226
Greece was an underdog. They deserved the Euros in 04 because they played to their strengths. They are allowed to be pragmatic.
Chelsea are one of the richest clubs in world football and have an amazing amount of resources. They aren't an underdog and don't deserve the luxury of playing like the lesser team, which is what they do often. Spending billions of dollars to defend is stupid. When a billion dollar team parks the bus against Leciester somehting is wrong
>>64391296
Chelsea's success has been accomplished with ''defensive''(pragmatic as you call it fits better cause they didn't defend all year the last season) football. When they tried attacking football except one year with Ancelotti they failed miserably. For you a rich team playing defensively may seem embarrassing but not winning any trophies seems more embarrassing to me.
Also the trophies don't last for 10 mins but forever. If Chelsea want to change their style now that the competition can actually outspend them they're settled for years of mediocrity.
>Damien Duff has retired
>>64391226
>they're still miles behind City or potentially United.
Yeah, City will probably safely finish in 3rd, but there are 4 spots that get CL, and United are really not looking great right now. That 4th place spot could be anyone's: United's, Spurs' or yes, even Chelsea's.
You're right about Matic and Cesc looking poor, but they have shown before that they are great players, so it's not like they are shit, they just need to rediscover their form, and a new manager has now come in. The no CL for a striker signing is a fair point, which probably rules out some big names like Griezmann, but again, don't doubt the power of a massive wage. Roman probably realises that now is the time when he needs to invest in the squad to get them up to par, and we might see that come January.
Also, if Hazard leaves, Chelsea will be getting a near-world record fee for him, which won't be too bad compensation for an underperforming winger.
>>64391625
I"m sure Chelsea can still spend with the best of them but I think they doing what Arsenal did when they moved stadiums. They'll show a lot of restraint in the transfer market until their new stadium is done. Hopefully in that time a a club philosophy can be implemented that doesn't focus in pragmatism.
So why did Mou play Hazshit, Coshit and fiberglass if they were at the center of the trouble?
>>64392171
Because people are idiots that believe everything shitted out by the Sun and Daily Mail despite having zero (0) sources on anything ever.
Hazard was playing like shit desu.
