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So I wonder... do our Italian fratellos even take us seriously?
Everytime we happen to play each other German media starts hyping up this big rivalry and talks about why this time the curse can finally be lifted. But it's kind of a one sided rivalry.
I know England thinks they have a big rivalry with us, but we actually don't really care about them.
How is this matchup being received in Italy? Is there hype whenever we play and do they see it as an equal matchup or do they look at it sneeringly, confident of victory?
Ich kann dir als deutsch Italiener sagen, dass die Deutschen in den italienischen Medien zwar extrem respektiert werden ( jetzt vor allem mehr denn je weil Weltmeister und so ) aber meiner Meinung nach wird nicht so ein Wirbel darum gemacht wird wie in Deutschland.
Der größte Unterschied ist, dass seltener davon geredet wurde mit Sicherheit zu gewinnen auch wenn es bis jetzt immer der Fall war... Anders als bei Bild und co.
Ich persönlich bin mir sicher das es dieses Mal einfach soweit ist. Ich hoffe nur ihr verschont uns und lasst uns unsere Würde. Ein 4-0 verkrafte ich nicht.
We have respect for Croatia.
http://www.11v11.com/teams/italy/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Croatia/
That 2006 friendly was the first loss after the 2006 World Championship. It was the first loss after a sting of 25 victories or draws.
Italian here btw.
>>69076746
Man, this is like the most important match in Italy, nothing compares to Italia Germania
it's by far the biggest game for us
it's true that we beat you many times but you're still 4 times world champions, you can't call this one sided
also many italians dislikes ze germans
not me though
can't wait for all the kartoffel tears on saturday desu
>>69076833
speak English or die
The most important challenge at the international level for Italy, the strong unbeatable Germany full of champions against mediocre Italian players who will make every effort to try to beat it.
David and Goliath story.
>>69077469
DELETE
>>69077552
there is no way we can win.
they are better and they will win against us.
I'm sad but we have 0 (zero) chances
>>69076746
>German media
>creating an artificial rivalry
>ONCE AGAIN!!!
So sick of it, hope you all enjoy the match and pls don't kill, Italian bros
>>69076833
English not nazi please.
>>69077669
Yes, We definitely have no chance of winning.
>Germans are convinced they'll lose
>Italians also convinced they'll lose
It's a nice change from both sides thinking they have a guaranteed win but which one should I believe?
>>69077669
I´m still scared shitless tbqh desu. That´s how you always win...
>ze germans are favorites
>we will beat the curse this time
>get cucked again
>>69077669
It annoys me how before each tournament game in their press conference (i recall 2006 and 2012) Italians tell the world how good and unbeatable Germany is and then beat us easily. They are always and always should be seen as the clear favotie. Italians seemingly love to put themselves in the underdog role, only to celebrate their inevitable victory even more afterwards.
For once i'd just love for them to say "It's gonna be a tough match. Germany is strong but we think we can win." That's respect for me. Being honest about what the game is gonna be. Not all this teutonic shit talk nobody believes anyway. They will win and nobody is gonna be surprised by that outcome. And come confederations cup if we happen to play against eachother they will shit talk Germany up again and then beat us as expected. It's how Italy always did it.
>>69077820
Did you watch the 2006 and 2012 matches? We didn't win easily, it was a tough match both times
By the way the press doesn't suck your cock, when they ask the players and the manager, they always say the same old things
>the opponent is strong, but we aren't afraid
>they're the world champions but we can beat them
I've noticed that posters of other countries (both teams involved here, Argentina etc.) all make various threads downplaying their chances. Is there any reason why? Obviously I'm not saying to become a deluded shitposting Brit but goddamn it's like none of you expect to win anything.
>>69076746
It's the most important game for us
Usually it goes like this
1 Germany
Small power gap
2 Brazil
Huge power gap
3 France
You are our most important rival, and personally i'm alredy preparing psycologically to all the German media shitposting after your win
>>69077884
I'm psychologically preparing myself to the inevitable curse breaking; that's probably the only thing we italians care about besides food.
If I reach the state of acceptance before the match I could have some chances not to kill myself afterwards
Well if we win the party will be even more glorious
>>69077900
I am sorry anon but we have literally 0 (zero) chance.
the curse is already broken.
we can't do anything, just accept the fact that we will lose.
I'm sorry but it's over
>>69077900
>>69077921
>>69077898
Trust me, nobody expects us to win, we just hope for our team to pick hell of a fight
>>69077884
We are very scaramantic, in some city like Roma or Napoli you cant even say the word "scudetto" (championsip) if they are leading the table or are close. We could be up 4-0 at the 90th and still say it's not over yet.
>>69077934
I believe the word you're looking for is "superstitious. But I see where you're coming from but Roma/Napoli have every reason to be doubtful of their chances considering the history.
Hello
this is the anti-jinx post. This thread is clear now.
Have a nice day.
>>69076746
well, we look at this in this fashion: soccer is for fags
i hope you're satisfied with our answer
>>69077481
>mount nigger
RARE
ERAR
>>69078111
Not really tho
>>69078066
>soccer
Drop the proxy Josè
>Italians
>not caring about German
Please, ever since the German/Italian anthem basically ran on loop for half a decade in the Formula1 the pre match introduction alone is more hype than a final could ever be.
>>69078066
so that's why it is such a big deal for italians? got it
>>69076746
It's a bit different from England, you guys are four times and current world champs, they kind of have to give you the time of the day even if they always beat you.
>>69077934
>We could be up 4-0 at the 90th and still say it's not over yet.
The 2000 Euros sure did a number on you :p
>>69078163
>tfw you know most the anthems of big nations because of being cucked in every sport my whole life
I'll be whistling along as usual...
>>69078179
only for greasy plebs who work menial jobs
Yes, yes, keep jinxing it, raga.
Germans are gonna shit on us on Saturday
>pic related
It's me after the game :(
>>69078305
we know about the "ritual" by now m8
Anti-jinx is in full effect
Was a good game, the better team won hope you go all the way now.
Let's be realistic. Italy has no chance. With De Rossi injured and such weak attack I predict that the game will be all the 90 minutes on Italy's half
>>69078501
Shut up turkroach, Italy will steamroll us Germans.
>>69078526
can i fuck your wife?
>>69078526
Enough with the falschen Bescheidenheit Hans.
>>69078598
But we have to counter their ritual.
Hochmut kommt vor dem Fall, ja.
>>69078526
He's probably an Italian in germany. Fucking cunts 2bh, you emigrated from this shithole of a country to another one that gave you a job and a chance at Life, and yet you spit on it. Hope some German nazi gang beats up all those disgusting 2 faced shitalians
>>69076746
>fratelloS
kill yourself
>>69078660
I know right? Not a single German thinks we have a snowball's chance in hell against you, we will be humiliated like always.
Does germany care about our rivalry with them?
>>69078660
Calm down Hans
>>69078740
Yes, it's our biggest rivalry, wish you weren't shit right now.
>>69078768
Thanks Werner
>>69078740
Yes.
Wish >we would be playing (you) instead of Italy since >we would have a chance this way
As an Italian you're our 2nd biggest rival after Brazil so yeah it's a massive match and a big deal
>all this nervous as fuck jinxing and anti-jinxing
i'll be so glad when it's all over
>>69078809
I consider Germany the biggest rival, not Brazil
Germany --> stronk serious rival
France --> annoying butthurt rival
Brazil --> cheeky troll rival (in the past)
I don't care about other NTs
>>69078809
>as an italian
>our
>>69076746
>I know England thinks they have a big rivalry with us, but we actually don't really care about them.
Some Germans seem to care a bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD9UTBWo51w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9p0LEmFvuw
>>69077820
see >>69077858
we never beat you easily, it's actually the opposite. And this time our midfield is fucked too.
>>69079362
Trust them, The Netherlands is their one and true love, Italy is their Nemesis and England is merely a fuckbuddy.
>>69077698
>>69077481
>they don't speak German in the year of the lord 2016
subhumans the lot of you
lets stop trolling for a second:
Germany has WAY strongest players than Italy
BUT
Italy has the best defense in the world right now and a solid group with balls.
it will be a boring match, a close call decided by an episode. this is the classic 0-0 or a 2-0 with one of the side scoring maybe from a penalty or free kick end doubling it at the end of the game. like the other 2-0 italy did.
>>69076746
Italy/Germany is the only thruly serious match for us. We may banter after theatch, we may flex our muscles, pshyc us up, go full WAAAGH mode, but we'll always feel this match as the biggest, the most difficult, the One.
In the past years, we did not celebrated our victories becouse we won, but becouse it ended, and we did not fucked up.
Italy/France in the other side, it's the hideous one. The burning hate, the fire of rage, before, during and after the match...
I know people who posted "pray 4 another Paris" during the daesh attacks. Or tried to give directions to the Quartieri Spagnoli or Bari Vecchia to french tourists. It's in the blood, we simply cannot feel anything but hatred when France is involved.
>>69079800
t.errone
>>69077552
>>69077669
>>69077735
>>69077898
>>69077900
>>69077921
>>69078305
>>69079505
NO. STOP.
WE CAN'T BEAT YOU, WE NEVER BEAT YOU. STOP JINXING IT. SHUT UP.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69081082
Havent you read the build? There are 7 reasons why you will beat us! Seven! I think you got it in the bag
>>69076746
The only rivalry even comparable to Italy - Germany for us is with France.
Everytime we play against Germany we get Super-Hyped.
I think, the long-time streak has of course big impact on this for us, but i think it's also a cultural thing. Probably Italians and Germans represents perfectly the two souls of Western Europe, more of any other countries.
Also, it's true that we always win, but everytime we face you we're not considered the favourites, in '82 it was 50-50, in 2006 you were the host, in 2012 you were super goat and we had a shitty 2010 WC, and now you're the reigning champions.
I think this is a thing too, you doesn't care about England because everytime you are the favourites and you always win, because England sucks.
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>>69081282
NOOOOOOO.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
be gentle germany
>>69081295
>in 2006 you were the host
You guys had Buffon, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Pirlo, Gattuso, Totti, Luca Toni when he was decent and could even afford to leave Del Piero in the bench
Germany had Ballack, Lahm and Klose
Rome is dead, kill off this final surge, break the curse and let us finally put an end to Italian football as a whole
We are friends/rivals, don't you remember our great adventures in the previous century? We are like nakama or some anime shit
>>69081771
wew
![BoWu-0oIMAADN-E[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/p651C4j.jpg "BoWu-0oIMAADN-E[1].jpg")
It will end the way it always ends.
Please Italy bros, don't make us suffer to much this time playing a tight game and giving us hope until the bitter end.
End it soon this time, like 3:0 at half time, you owe us this much for being a sure win for you throughout history.
>>69081736
In 2006 we played in Dortmund, Germany never lost in that stadium, also they were the host, the stadium was rooting for them.
They were definitely the favs
>>69081818
No way, you are just too strong
>>69081836
So if Spain play Estonia in Talinn and all the fans there are rooting for Estonia that makes Estonia the favorite and Spain the underdog?
>Both sides trying to anti-jinx as hard as they can
I can feel the flows of meme magics coursing ITT :D
>>69081736
>Luca Toni when he was decent
When wasn't he decent?
Gotta lova Italians. It will be a close and great match.
>>69081903
You're being ridicolous Hans, admit that you were the favs in 2006
>>69078209
no one asked for your opinion, pocket knife.
This constant "there's no way we're gonna win you're too strong" is getting slightly annoying.
Germans, we all know you're gonna win, stop hiding behind literally nothing. Keep your usual cocky attitude so that we can fucking win this time too.
FUCK I DIDN'T WRITE THE SECRET
NOBODY FIGURED IT OUT IN 46 YEARS
WHAT HAVE I DONE REEEEEEE
Ok now we're gonna lose for real, you can stop jinxing it
>>69081972
Rude
Don't you see this is not hateful?
We already accepted we will lose this match...
>>69081968
You do realize Italy defeated the same team 4-1 before the World Cup? Most people assumed we would be destroyed in the group stages, the team was all hype and everyone knows it. Italians where playing for CL clubs, Germany had Oliver Neuville and Arne Friedrich.
Fucking Italians I hate you so much for your fake understating shit REEEEEEE
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It's sad to see it end so soon already, at the quarterfinal stage.
We were unlucky no one could take Italy out for us this time.
Good luck against France or Iceland amici.
>>69082036
Friendlies are worthless. You had the Cup in your pockets dude
>>69082089
>You had the Cup in your pockets dude
Now you're just mocking us
Does anyone have any funny, arrogant headlines from German newspapers yet, like pic related? I like to collect them so I can repost and laugh at them whenever they lose and it seems they always do it the most whenever they play Italy like they never fucking learn.
>>69082170
>hamburger
>pizza
I'm getting hungry
>>69082170
I have an entire collection but I sadly can't share it because we're gonna lose big time
>>69082036
You do realize Germany defeated Italy 4-1 before the Euro?
>>69082253
Your team had nothing to do with the current team at the EC
>>69077464
>it's true that we beat you many times
you beat us not only many times, you beat us every time (friendlies not considered)
>>69076833
Also bist du die Schwuchtel die in den letzten Tagen Italien als Lieblingsmannschaft und Deutschland als #7 für die EM unter den letzten acht hatte? Da bin ich aber erleichtert.
Aber dennoch:
That World Cup semifinal in World Cup 2006...
Man, it was so much fucking pottery that I was almost convinced that there had to be some kind of football God controlling things.
>Germany has very little hype throughout the tournament
>They start doing well though and everyone thinks it could be some Cinderella story
>German patriotism and the sight of the German flag were beginning to become popular for the first time in ages; German identity is finally being revived
>The whole country is beginning to rediscover national pride and what it means to be German through the hopes of winning the tournament
>Only one more team separated them from the final and probably the trophy: their arch-rivals Italy
>Held to a goalless draw with just 2 minutes left
>Italy has never won a World Cup penalty shootout, while Germany has never lost one. Germany is pretty much guaranteed to win if it goes to penalties
>Then it happens...a beautiful, curling shot by Fabio Grosso to go just beyond the reach of Lehmann and curve straight into the net
>Germans are clearly heartbroken but just a tiny speck of hope left. Choking back tears, they desperately sing "schiess ein tor" as a minute left
>Then another one just to kill off all remaining hope
You just cannot write something that beautiful. Sure, stories like Leicester's are unbelievable, but it's just another underdog story that anyone could write. This story had absolutely everything. The unexpected dark horse team, the country rediscovering national pride, the climax that looks like it's going to lead to a happy ending, and then the cruel, twisted dream-killer right at the end.
>>69082253
shitty friendlies don't count, look what """""beating""""" Germany before the Euros did to England
>>69077669
Dude Spain have a better squad than Germany and you guys rekt them
>>69082310
Croatia beat Spain as well and where are they now?
>>69082342
That's what I'm trying to say squad doesn't mean anything in this kind of games
>>69076746
>>69079362
Sure we do care about England. Match against them is always something special, maybe even more than Italy
> yfw all the italians itt working mufa
>>69082291
Relax, du gurke. It was a guy who hates the NT because too much diversity
>>69077552
>>69077464
>>69077433
really thought it was Brazil
>>69076746
Deutsche bro, are we the gauchos your biggest rivals?
i remember when brazil used to be, but since the SIETE A UNO things will never be the same.
>italian says lol you guys will beat us
>german says lol we are cursed you guys will win
fucking pussies
>>69083203
Europe at its finest, greatest continent on earth
>>69083195
No.
You annoy us since you got some of our players expelled from playing against Italy in 2006 and because this junkie who used to be your coach in 2010 didn't recognize Thomas Müller of all people.
We see you as the typical bad losers, but nothing more.
The Netherlands and Italy are more important to us still, even if it's not really hateful somehow.
Also there is more tension in matches against countries we hate for other reasons than football.
You can't honestly say that you don't care about brazil anymore
>>69083266
>THIS flag
>this topic
>>69083309
>>69083309
did you just referred to the biggest player in futbol history as a junkie? show some respect kraut, if it wasnt for him this sport wouldnt be what it is today.
the situation with brazil is rare, since it has been a fucking lot of years since the last match between us that meant something, but yeah BRA - ARG is one of the biggest futbol chivalrys.
you must be young, ask your vater what does he prefer, a final against the netherlands or against the Argies.
>>69083337
the fuck is your problem? did you forget where your pussy leader run to hyde?
>>69083573
A final against the Netherlands. I know that.
Stop being so full of yourself, that's annoying.
>>69083195
after loose 3 finals in a row, thats something worse than a SIETE A UNO
>>69083643
So you prefer playing against the neverChampions instead of playing against the #1 team in the world acording to the FIFA ranking. mediocre at least, couldnt expect more from a turkish nation.
>>69083655
felicitaciones hermanos chilenos! viva el futbol sudamericano!
>>69083814
>sarcasmo
>>69084048
nos costo muchos años a los Argentinos dejar de tratar a nuestros hermanos chilenos como a unos mapuches y negros de mierda. no se abusen y agradezcan el chorizito de tierra que les dejamos para vivir.
>>69084331
Pathetic. We are still laughing at you, bro
>>69083309
>our players expelled from playing against Italy in 2006
that was because of the perfidious italian media
>>69083814
>So you prefer playing against the neverChampions?
Yes
>the #1 team in the world acording to the FIFA ranking
nobody gives a shit about the meme rankings but (you) since Argentines seem to be vain as fuck
>>69084573
Argentine players still started picking fights after they lost, that's a fact
>>69078740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_5nehW3A8
"Wenn ich Oranje sehe, sehe ich nun mal rot."
>>69085127
thanks, now i actually miss holland
>>69081082
im sorry my german brother, the ritual is completed now
Congratz for the win ;^)
>>69082297
>>69078387
this time we used a fake ritual
there is another secret ritual working behind this
its over
german won
>>69083203
>this flag
>>69078740
However a lot germans actually have sympathy for the netherlands, so do I. I would like you to win the WC once
>>69083203
>>69086365
>inb4 another WWII argument
>>69083814
Wtf we were heartbroken to NOT play the 2010 against them and the same in 2014.
This is how we want to become champions and not against (you)
there are LITERALLY 0 (zero) fucking zero chance for us to win
it is imposible, there is no way we are going to winm ust read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers
we can't win another time, germany is condemned to win this time
LITERALLY ZERO CHANCE
there are LITERALLY 0 (zero) fucking zero chance for us to win
it is imposible, there is no way we are going to winm ust consider this
>> meme magic
we can't win ever, italy is condemned to win every time
LITERALLY ZERO CHANCE
>>69093416
the times have changed mate, germany gonna rekt italians and everybody knows that
>>69076746
>>69083195
Official German Soccer Rivalities Power Ranking
>1. Netherlands
>1. Italy
Yes a draw. The banter with the Dutch is just too great and Italian fans are bro-tier, that curse and the matches tend to be tense and realy awesome.
SMALL POWER GAP
> 3. England
It's England, duh. All that banter, all that Schadenfreude. Too bad their team is shit atm.
SLIGHTLY BIGGER POWER GAP
>4. Argentina
While Germany and Argentina meet pretty frequently when it gets important, it becomes quite ugly most of the times. Like the shit the Argie team pulled in 2006 or what Maradonna did before the match in 2010. Look at England in 2010 for example, they have been classy as fuck for the most part after the 4-1. 4-1! And Cokadonna still talked shit, so of course we relished beating you even worse.
If you were more of a class act loke our top 3, you'd be considered a true rival.
STRONG CONTENDERS FOR PROSPECT RIVALRIES:
>Spain
Italy 2.0 for us
>Brazil
We have a bad tournament record against them, only team with a better WC record than Germany, 7-1..... But too few important matches yet
>Poland
The matches against them are always hard, and they are one of our abused-in-the-past neighbours, like the Dutch, so....
>Croatia
Damn the way they got our most arrogant team ever back to reality back in '98. Also always are hard opponent.
