I'm looking for "Life Success" metrics in order to monitor myself so I want suggestions from you guys/gals.
It would be best if formulated in terms of "X time without doing Y".
e.g. X days without visiting 4chan, X days without skipping workout, etc.
I'll state some examples so you can make more suggestions.
1. Not visiting 4chan.
2. Not skipping work out days.
3. Masturbating without porn (just using imagination and memories).
4. Stoic attitude (e.g. If I lose my temper with someone, do something absurd because I fail to analyse it properly, etc, counts as a failure like when I visit 4chan).
5. General improvement (Did I do something useful or to improve myself today? Did I jack off to instagrams of bitches and played vidya instead?). e.g. Today I made home repairs.
That's all I've been able to come up with thus far. I'd appreciate your input.
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>>23865733
Question, how far are you willing to go with this? Not going to go with anything too extreme, but maybe you should tell that too, what kind of things are 'No No'.
>My suggestion would include going to omegle / chatroulette and just do 'it' on the cam.
With your ideas of masturbating without porn is.. not really a challenge?
>Maybe trying to masturbate much as you physically can, count the amount and then try to beat the score?
>Spend a day without any underwear while you go with your daily life? You could use bandages if you need to hide nipples.
Ummm.. Yeah.. that's about it what my pervert mind can go with..
>>23865773
I can also give you skype, if you want me to.. ehem.. Personally watch your progress.
>Post this exact same thread hours ago with this pic.
>Was archived with 0 answers.
Repost the thread with a different one.
>Get zero-content answers.
I've made no progress whatsoever.
If any of you could let go their dicks for a second and offer some actual suggestions, that would be great, yeah.
Kill yourself before you think about posting another one of these
Did I do it right?
>>23865890
That falls under #1, so no. Have a (You) for your trouble, though.
It's been a good 3 months without feeling completely down in the gutter. A year ago my wife of 9 years who we have 2 kids with cheated on me. Filed for divorce, went thru the whole depression self hate why am I not good enough.
Work out everyday, spend as much time with my kids everyday. Just got a promotion and pay bump. Starting to rebuild my life
>>23865968
That's very inspirational, anon. Even if the marriage didn't end well, you've made 2 little rascals so you have a lot to be proud of.
>spend as much time with my kids everyday
You're way above ok in my book, anon. You're doing great.
>>23865733
>1. Not visiting 4chan.
Setting your standard really fucking low there.
Why not get a job and a house?
You're missing a big one: healthy diet. It is actually a very true anecdote "you are what you eat" so that should definitely be on your list. That could also help improve your appearance (make gains, clear skin, nice hair etc.) and your general mood which help bolster the effects of the other steps.
Another one could be talk to a stranger/meet someone new. It could also be along the lines of reaching out to someone you haven't talked to in a while. For the former it should definitely be in person but the latter can be over text or facebook, and honestly trying and failing is better than not trying at all.
Now..
fucking sauce, my heart is diamonds
>>23865733
>>23865826
>>23865826
>Getting to sleep on time (before 12am)
>Not masturbating for as long as you can (31 days for me)
Also if you want to develop a more stoic, or even better just calmer attitude, you need to look into getting rid of your ego. The ego is very often why you get mad at others but it can also be the cause of things like depression, and low self esteem.
>>23865733
Life success metrics are bullshit. Just do something every day until you get good at it and follow where it leads you. If you enjoy it or are truly interested in it, you'll make the time and do what you have to to get it done without even noticing. Eventually you'll find that other people will notice that you've gotten good at whatever it is you do and will help you live your life the way you want to by doing it, either by paying you for your skill or introducing you to someone who will.
google john wooden
read up on being successful
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profit
>>23865733
want some real advice? keep a journal, write in it at least 3 times a week.
keep track of ideas and your days, problems and opportunities
that is all you need, the rest will slowly come over time, when you write about you not starting your essay enough days in a row the task suddenly seem more and more immediate and become harder to push away, it works like that with everything
just give it some time and never stop using it
>>23867556
guess I can add this
>>23866311
>Leaving 4chan is easy.
kek
>4chan has a positive impact in people's lives
optimus kek
>>23866638
The diet is not included as I already follow a good one without effort, so it's a bit useless, but it's a good suggestion!
I don't have trouble talking to strangers, but I have some estranged friends, so it could be a good idea to do so. Thanks.
I'm sorry about the sauce. I know it's from a girl that some /r9k/ dweller knows, but he only gave away these two.
>>23867062
>Getting to sleep on time (before 12am)
This one is nice!
>Not masturbating for as long as you can (31 days for me)
No way. I masturbate on wokout days and enjoy it thoroughly. There's no point in trying to live without something that is attached to my own body.
>look into getting rid of your ego.
How do I do that? Could you rephrase it?
>>23867456
An interesting man. Thanks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wooden#Seven_Point_Creed
>>23867556
>keep a journal
Interesting. I used to keep one during my drowning years but I totally cast it aside. I used mostly for reflecting, but not so much for tasks and the like. I haven't written anything in over a month, and that's a good indicator for me.
But the way you suggest it could work. You're into the list, anon!
>>23867620
So, basically what the image says is "don't be a jackass", right?
Since I don't have more OP pics, here comes kittens, the one true Goddess.
>>23867909
pretty much don't be a jackass, yeah, and I would suggest putting most things into your journal, reflecting does you good even if you are not drowning, one benefit of this alone is for you to get a better perspective on your different perspectives so to say, if you are feeling down you can go back and compare the times you were feeling down and the times you were feeling good and it can help you gain back the positive perspective on things, it will feel more familiar to you than other people trying to make you understand how wonderful the world is as it would be you telling yourself with your own words
>>23867943
That's nice. I didn't consider it that way. Thanks for the input!
Any other wisdom pearls, anon?
what's happened to Kittens? Why did she quit posting? Will she come back?
>>23869220
As far as I know her bf didn't life the whole thing so she stopped. I would give anything for her return. I'd renounce shitposting and all this crap for new pics, vids and vocaroos.
Now post life advice or your wife's son will die in his sleep tonight.
Random input, has nothing to do with The subject here But OP has Nice hair
Here's advice from a psychologist:
Get enough sleep--National Sleep Foundation says to get 7-9 hours at your age (or the age I suspect you are).
Exercise--get your heart rate up and keep it up for at least 30 minutes 4 times a week. Read John Ratey's book Spark, which examines the connections between mental health and anxiety, mood, and attention.
Get plenty of protein--shoot for half of your ideal body weight in grams of protein per day. Avoid simple carbs--they fuel your brain inefficiently.
Take a large daily dose of high quality Omega 3--be sure to get at least one gram of EPA (one of the components of Omega 3) every day. Don't bother trying to get it through fish--just take an Omega 3 supplement.
Read Russ Harris's book the Happiness Trap: How to Stop Struggling and Start Living. It's very good.
Do stuff you like every day--if that's masturbation, fine. If that's coming here once in a while, fine. Try to do things in moderation, that includes reacting to frustrations, pursuing hobbies and interests, masturbating, everything.
>>23865733
Without driving somewhere you could have walked/biked.
Without going all day not doing anything outdoors.
Without getting fast food/takeout/delivery.
Without not helping someone you could have helped.
>>23871470
>>23871609
Good advice, thanks!
>>23871609
Mr.MM, is that you? I don't have a car, or a license for that matter, so I walk everywhere or take public transportation.
Thanks for all the input! Keep it coming!
>>23865733
I actually went full autistic on this a couple years ago, OP, pic related. I set a goal for 5 metrics to track (exercise, computer skill or art practice, reading, studying a language, and practicing music. I set goals and then tracked what my daily percentage was for doing it each month. It was working, then summer fucked my shit up
>>23874476
This gives me the hardest boner. Thanks for sharing! How did you decided at the end of each day which values to input?
My previous attempt also failed, since it was tiresome to track everything. That's why I wanted to try an "X time without doing Y", since it's easier to track when you fuck up instead of everything you do right and its magnitude.
Instead of a line chart, I thought about using a polygon so the area reflects how well I'm doing. Rate my autism, anon.
>>23874491
I'm actually trying to double down and do one just for my summer goals, pic. Those were just five things I knew I wanted to work on. I didn't necessarily want to do them everyday. Reading and exercise were ones I wanted to become habit, so I focused there. The fuck up perspective is interesting, I might want to try that. I particularly am having a hard time eating healthily lately, so I'm wondering if I even want to start counting calories. Ive only done it once in my life, it's tedious af, but it was also the time I made the biggest physical transformation in my life, so idk.
>>23874491
hey i can help but im not exactly sure what youre asking help with? explain thoroughly
keep a dream journal
>>23865733
girl in OP looks like a girl who'd beg me cum inside her or down her throat 5 times a day.
good times
>>23874944
Oh, anon, I love you. Yet you haven't answered my question. How would you decide at the end of the day the 'score' or what to write at the end of the period. Some things are very hard to monitor, hence my "fuck up" system. I guess that it could also get for eating healthier (e.g. "Did you drink any soda today? That's a fuck up, so mark today as a fuck up day").
>>23876979
The thread explains itself, I believe. I want ideas to get life success metrics (eat healthier, work out, don't become a damn hiki and interact with people, etc).
Then we monitor our "score" on each area. The score goes up with time, unless we "fuck up", that makes it go low. How much does it decrease with each fuck up? I though about a simple formula. It decreases the "score" by a constant, divided by the time since the last fuck up.
e.g.
If you miss your workout but it's the first time in months, your score gets just a bit lower. If you then miss the next one, or the next week, the score really takes a hit.
Score penalty = Constant/(Time since last fuck up)
>>23877096
I rarely dream (i.e. remember my dreams) but how would that improve my life.
>>23877182
I've never seen tulpamancers outside of /r9k/. Good for you, anon.
>>23877982
dream journal would not help much I think
stick to your normal journal, lol
I honestly think it is better than the life metric thing too, simply because you spend the time on you and reflecting on your life instead of spending time on figuring out how many points to put.
the reason the life metric works is because it also give you what the journal give you, a constant reminder, its a different approach to the same thing and in my personal opinion an inferior approach only to be considered if you are overly autistic, and I do not mean that as an insult but honestly as autistic people sometimes have a strange need to do things specific ways.
the reason the life metric work is because it remind you that you did not work out, just like the journal, the score is optional and in the end also arbitrary
>>23879036
My first attempt failed because it took too much time to figure out the score, but if you set up a metric beforehand it's easier as you only have to monitor failures.
And, yes, the score is arbitrary, but so are many other things that nonetheless measure.
Let's make it clearer by an example. the Life Metric is "Not entering 4chan". We could add some exceptions, like whenever you go to /g/sqt to ask tech questions and so on, but that doesn't matter now.
Now let's talk score.
3 days without 4chan (dw4) = Level 1
7 dw4 = 2
30 dw4 = 3
etc
You could apply any scale you want, and by keeping it consistent with other metrics you can see where are you succeeding and where do you need to apply more effort or motivate yourself better.
You can apply this system to anything. A life metric "Kindness" is equally "mensurable" as "Days without being a jackass". Of course, you can be oblivious to you being a dick, but through introspection or asking others you can get that info.
>Linda got mad at me because of situation "A". What do you think about it.
>Frankly, anon, you behaved like an asshole and you should kys, shaking my head.
I understand the mechanism behind it, but putting a post it with some bs motivational quote it's not going to cut it.
>>23879073
the whole system still seems like a lot of additional work for nothing to me but you don't have to convince me as long as it works for you :p
I mean,(personal opinion btw) you get less information related to the incident into the metric thingy because you focus on the one specific metric (life metric only measure how many times you went to the gym, the journal would contain the very reason. Did not feel motivated, did not have energy, did not like the new instructor, forgot about it, all different reasons that would require different types of attention to fix) while the journal is more inclusive of what else was going on
from my perspective you are trading that extra insight for arbitrary numbers, instead of getting to the cause of the issue you are toying around with scores on the symptoms
if you feel the numbers are helpful and have always been motivated by grades in school etc then sure but I would try to keep it as simple as possible.
I agree about the postit though, don't think that works for anyone, lol
>>23879107
Identifying issues is a different ball game. The numbers thingy is all about plotting it and getting motivated. Probably with less mathematically inclined people doesn't work as well, but seeing a chart with the weight you can lift is surely more motivating than just the numbers.
The final idea is to put those scores in the vertices of a polygon and see it grow as I grow. Of course identifying the reason of each failure is important, but that's a different issue. I know why I come to 4chan, why I'm insensitive to other people, why I skip workouts, why I open 8 tabs of porn before jacking off...
All it rests to me is to get all the tools available to motivate myself, and this is one of them. One I can draw in my window and see every minute I'm sitting at my desk and say "I want to expand that irregular polygon, goddammit."
>>23879119
its not about the math, its about the time spent vs what you gain, but again, you don't have to convince me, if you like to have numbers on things then do that, you know yourself better than I do
>>23879136
>its about the time spent vs what you gain
I don't get it. Where do you see a lot of work being done under my new system? I've done journaling ans it's much more time consuming.
>>23879136
>>23879149
Please. Tell me what I'm overlooking.
>>23879136
So, you were just memeing?
>>23865733
How about some basic shit to make this shit world a little better?
Go out of your way 3 times a month to help a stranger out. Could be simple like helping them carry groceries to their car and shit.
Maybe try reaching out to some old friends at least once a month.
Go and volunteer once every 2 months.
>>23879149
chill out dude, I got other things to do than refresh this thread
keep in mind that this is my personal opinion, you can simply disagree and move on, I just don't see any benefit from using your formulas and watching a polygon grow, it just seems like time spent pretending to tackle the issue while in reality you are procrastinating doing other stuff instead, it just takes more time.
I mean, it is more work, and the end result is the same, it keeps track for you.
let me put it this way: life is an RPG, I am telling you to use the quest log to figure out what you have done, you are saying its better to go to the stats page.
I do agree that have its place, but more as a curiosity, it is less helpful for getting you to retell your tale, they are just numbers representing things in the past in a less useful way than the detailed quest log that will tell you everything about what happened on the quest and where to go next.
since nothing matters i don't see what would count as real life success.
so either this is a troll thread or a thread made by someone that is a. interested in the concept of succeeding and b. too dumb to realize it's a false concept
if you want to chase happiness or pleasure, that i can sort of relate to, but success is so subjective and silly (and it's usually measured by how happy a person is, how wealthy he is, or how famous he is).
personally i connect with happiness more than wealth and other things.
at any rate self improvement is masturbation (no, i'm not being a special snowflake fight club lover, i actually think it's true).
sure, i like masturbation, but don't pretend it's for something more meaningful (like "fulfilling your role in the universe")
I tried coming up with those formulas, but a checklist was easier. Having to restrict yourself from things you enjoy like video games, 4chan, etc., is not my idea of success. Neither is following formulas to keep yourself in line every single day. I might think you're "successful" if you fit these things, but of course it all comes down to the individual, and to me a good personality and charisma usually outshine accomplishments and status. This list also assumes you're done with school/aren't a full time student.
>has a mix hobbies they enjoy, not just videogames. Well-rounded
>takes care of themselves all around - health, hygiene, mental and emotional well being, this means healthy diet, moderate amount of exercise a week, getting enough sleep, taking time off to recharge when you need it
>has some friends and good relationships with others
>college educated with a "useful" degree, not something like a B.A. in theater arts
>employed, doing something respectable and able to generate an income you can use to fully support yourself and pursue your hobbies and passions
>financially independent, doesn't need mommy and daddy's money to live comfortably
>moved out/lives in their own or with a roommate
>satisfied with the direction their life is going in or actively working to change it for the better, isn't waiting for someone to fix it for them
>>23879401
>while in reality you are procrastinating doing other stuff instead, it just takes more time.
Yet you keep failing to prove that.
>let me put it this way: life is an RPG, I am telling you to use the quest log to figure out what you have done, you are saying its better to go to the stats page.
It's a very fair comparison.
>it is less helpful for getting you to retell your tale, they are just numbers representing things in the past in a less useful way than the detailed quest log that will tell you everything about what happened on the quest and where to go next.
I'm not interested in retelling my tale or brooding in the past. My focus should be the present day. The present time. I have a quest log as well, but that doesn't require improvement. I'm always scheming.
I'm glad we could understand each other.
>>23880322
We don't, at all.
also, the burden of proof is not on me, I have given good arguments for the journal, that is where my burden of proof lies, I gave you my opinion anyway, an opinion based on the fact you admit the number is arbitrary and yet you want to simply reference to it instead of the fact itself, kinda like insisting on using the ip number to reach a website instead of the address, its the same thing, one is just a number instead, I also actually don't really care about the proof, but if you want to do things right, then the burden of proof is on you mate
if you can't prove that it have any benefits besides the IP address comparison above then it is all for nothing, wasted effort, right?
And to me, that is what you have presented so far.
But again, that is my opinion, do what you feel is best
>>23880322
Also: if you don't learn from the past you are bound to repeat the same mistakes in the future, that is a fact that will make it into your present sooner or later
>>23879381
>How about some basic shit to make this shit world a little better?
>Go out of your way 3 times a month to help a stranger out. Could be simple like helping them carry groceries to their car and shit.
I try to help whenever I'm asked to or the situation presents itself. Well, since I decided to start doing that, a few months back.
>Maybe try reaching out to some old friends at least once a month.
I have plenty of stranged friends. I could try that.
>Go and volunteer once every 2 months.
Nah. 2/3 is not that bad, isn't it?
>>23879415
>>23879415
>This entire post.
It's ok, I was an edgy teenager too. I don't remember being so arrogant, though. The fact that you can't relate to something doesn't mean shit. I can't relate to motherly love, yet there it is. Of course everyone has a different idea of what success is.
>at any rate self improvement is masturbation
kek'd. Come back in 4 years or risk a ban, kid.
>>23879436
This. This is what a sensible person would write.
I finished my degree and looking for my first job. As stated before, I find it easier to motivate myself if I quantify stuff, even if its measure is just a reflection. Having a good mix of hobbies is hard to monitor or measure, but I don't mean to dig into the details. I could add a simple metric like "Weeks without diversifying my free time activities", or something like that. The idea is to keep myself in check until it becomes an habit. It's just a clutch that I will drop once everything becomes ingrained in myself.
>>23865733
Cover yourself more and go to church atheism is degenerate
>>23881138
Not as bad as this bait, though.
>>23881214
>>23881408
>Cover yourself more
What does this shit even mean?
>and go to church
What for?
>atheism is degenerate
Believing in something without proof is degenerate.
I'm above arguing about metaphysics. Take your dogmas to someone who shares them since they're not open to discussion.
>>23880347
If you're stating "It's too much work" you should provide some proof. I don't see how is too much work. Explain where would the time go and I'll be convinced.
Yes, the journal is a great way of reflecting, but it's a different issue. It seems to me that you fail to see that the objective is motivation through monitoring.
I feel like I'm repeating myself too much without reaching you. Both methods aren't mutually exclusive, as your previous metaphor suggested.
>>23880377
I'm aware of my past, I remember the lessons but I don't brood in it: it's unhealthy.
>>23881550
You know what that means. You're just a cum dumpster showing your skin like that. What about all the prophecys that happend? Atheism is the gateway to degeneracy you mongo. It leads to faggotry and other degenerate things. The church keeps people together if you believe it or not. Atheism causes this fucking Generation of special snowflakes. Nobody here cares about you, maybe about your tits.
>>23881575
Ok. I'll bite. What does a theist browsing /soc/, of all places?
>>23881575
>>23881580
That's right, you bitch. Shut your piehole, proselytizing idiot. Go back to /x/ where your imaginary friends belong.
>>23881580
It helps me to see people how they are. In a good and in a bad way. I hold a politician position and the knowlege is important. You wouldnt umderstand. I think that im a nice person, and nice people help. Most People need to be controled. Like children so no harm will be done. Thats why democracy is a meme.
>>23881607
>I hold a politician position and the knowlege is important. You wouldnt umderstand.
>politician
>knowledge is important
Yeah... That's why Trump is running for president. He's sooooo knowledgeable... [spoiler]:^)[/spoiler]
I'm an aeronautical engineer, so take your paternalism and stick it from where it came from: your father's anus, probably.
> I think that im a nice person,
Flash news: Everybody thinks they're nice persons. Nobody wants to face that they're assholes. Even the biggest douche will make mental gymnastics and convince themselves that they're "nice".
>and nice people help.
How are you helping? By pushing your outdated and unnecessary dogmas? Then I must be an even nicer person, as I'm trying to educate you and demonstrate that religion is (literally) a meme. A meme without value.
>Most People need to be controled. Like children so no harm will be done.
That sounds quite fascistic. I wonder why I'm not surprised.
>Thats why democracy is a meme.
No, anon, you are the meme here. Your religion, your deluded self-perception, your shitposting... You are a meme. Your only value is to entertain me in my last thread, and you fail at that even.
I'm so bored of people like you I can't even tell if we've spoken before. Are you the prophecyfag that keeps spouting bullshit like people post pepes? If not, it doesn't matter. You're just another copy from an outdated casting that someone forgot to discard.
I'm by no means a special snowflake, but I'm least my life isn't the nth iteration of the failed and vapid existence of my forefathers.
But you wouldn't understand. Take your undeserved sense of superiority to /r9k/. They praise Elliot despite being the biggest failure in his field. They might want to hear your ramblings.
>>23881642
I dont support Trump, he is to liberal for me. But knowing that leting savages into your country is a bad idea is not knowlege its common sense.
Well my whole life is with the purpose of helping others, i think thats nice.
>Outdated
Please dont go "its 2016" on me
>unnecessary
We see that every human needs it espacialy on degenerate places like this. People are arleady thinking about "pedophile rights". The only right they should deserve is landowning. 2x1 meters under the ground.
Well mussolini was sure better for italy than anything else.
I should entertain you? Arent you the whore that that poses here? Only about 1% people can handle atheism without becoming a poison to the society. You cant deny it.
>>23881698
>I dont support Trump, he is to liberal for me.
A Nazi German. See how you're a meme?
>Well my whole life is with the purpose of helping others, i think thats nice.
Show. Don't tell. Sadly you can only tell, as you have nothing to show.
>Please dont go "its 2016" on me.
What a surprise. A living fossil hates the CURRENT YEAR.
>We see that every human needs it
Nice opinion, man.
>espacialy on degenerate places like this.
What are you doing here again? Shitposting the dankest meme of history is bound to help nobody. Everybody has heard of that bullshit or some equivalent one.
>People are arleady thinking about "pedophile rights". The only right they should deserve is landowning. 2x1 meters under the ground.
We agree on this. All those catholic priests should be executed asap.
>Well mussolini was sure better for italy than anything else.
You are indeed a Teutonic memer.
>I should entertain you? Arent you the whore that that poses here?
If you read the thread (I know, too busy jacking it off to "whores", right? What do you masturbate to, btw? I'm curious.) you would know that I'm not the girl in OPs pic, though I would love to bury my face in her muff, since I'm not a closeted homo like other people that post in here...
>Only about 1% people can handle atheism without becoming a poison to the society. You cant deny it.
>1%
Citation needed.
>A poison to society.
Fundamentalists like you are the worst cancer there is right now. Your opinion is not more valid than mine. At least not until you offer some evidence. If everybody was like you, mankind still wouldn't be able to control fire.
Are you a creationist as well? You're outmemeing prophecyfag! Yes! You entertain me!
>>23881744
Eh you dont unterstand politics dont you? I dont support National socialism. But whats wrong with the wall?
Why do i need to Show? The smiles i see everyday are enough for me.
If you think that the world is better than it was lets say pre ww1 you're an Idiot.
Like ive arleady said im doing my studies on your fallen species.
Well the catholic faith forbids pedophilia its not their fault that there are some pedos. But its made on purpose like the only whites are school shooters(most pedos are teachers look it up) Hitler liked Islam i hate it. Your call me a nazi so whats your opinion on Islam. It allows pedophilia.
You're literaly going "lala 2016 i dont here the truth lala" here
I do not masturbate
Just look at the atheists society. You will find most of them at gay parades. Isnt that enough?
>>23881820
Go to sleep, Hans, you're drunk.
>>23881574
>then the burden of proof is on you
what about this do you not understand?
if a company makes a product or offer a service it is not the customer who have to provide proof of the product not working if he wants to avoid buying it, the burden of proof lies on the company
if you don't understand this basic fact of life then you need more help than this thread can give you.
I'd consider religion if I was you, it is well suited for people who prefer their own reality to the real one
>>23881550
>Believing in something without proof is degenerate.
and yet you want me to believe in your metric without any proof, in our debate you are the religious person demanding that the atheist provide proof of God not being real.
>>23882162
>>23882102
I am also curious, why is it so important for you to try and make me agree with you?
I told you over and over to simply trust yourself, you don't have to convince me and yet you force the conversation over and over (again, kinda like the religious people who can't accept you are doing fine without their god) to the point I feel rude for being bothersome until I remember you asked me.
>>23882102
Let's see how long it takes, ok?
1. Realise I've entered 4chan (x).
2. Check days since last failure (checking a text file or spreadsheet).
3. Divide a chosen constant by that, substract from the score.
4. See what level you have with your new score.
Which one of these steps seems time consuming to me? You can do it manually, but with a simple spreadsheet is even trivial.
>if a company makes a product or offer a service it is not the customer who have to provide proof of the product not working if he wants to avoid buying it, the burden of proof lies on the company
I'm the company and the customer. Anyway, I gave you my time estimate in this post, so you can pinpoint exactly where is time being consumed so much as you say.
>I'd consider religion if I was you, it is well suited for people who prefer their own reality to the real one
kek'd hard.
>>23882284
>I am also curious, why is it so important for you to try and make me agree with you?
It's not. I'm just curious how could I explain myself so badly or how can someone be so dense to the point where he's not able to make a good time estimate of a described process.
>>23882961
You have explained what you want to do many times, you have also completely failed to explain the benefit every time, meaning that looks like a waste of time from the start, spending time here arguing is a waste, figuring out how to correctly measure the different things is waste of time
how do you compare the lost success of entering a website too much vs the gained success of working out as planned? How much worse is slipping up on the workout compared to your diet? How will your numbers accurately reflect this?
Even in video games these things are complicated and that is when they refer to a created world with set definitions and rules, not so much here in the real world, you don't gain +1 after doing X activity Y amount of time.
All this time spent designing the thing is a waste because the end result is exactly the same as before you spent all this energy manipulating the facts into arbitrary numbers
> I'm just curious how could I explain myself so badly
because you ignore conventional norms and you seem to judge your own words by a different set of rules than you judge others.
You remind me of my friend a little btw he have aspergers/mild autism,
in minecraft he once "organized" my shit without asking, threw out everything I had hoarded, labled chests completely random, he simply ignored that I had played the game for a long time and that there were rules and norms in the game, he did his own thing anyway and even though he in the end accepted that we were never gonna organize things his way he did not understand why we insisted on doing things our way.
we combined things based on their use, building in one, crafting in another etc, he wanted to sort things after arbitrary terms like "elements"
a category not in the game, something he made up and then he put different things into this made up category instead of simply using the ones already there, the ones you could actually reference and define.
>>23883037
>how do you compare the lost success of entering a website too much vs the gained success of working out as planned? How much worse is slipping up on the workout compared to your diet? How will your numbers accurately reflect this?
As I explained before, overanalysing stuff like that is a road to failure. Thus, each metric is considered in a separate way. Sorry if I didn't make i clear throughout my posts.
>you don't gain +1 after doing X activity Y amount of time.
Exactly. That's why I picked the "days since last failure" metric. My body building progression is hard to assess and compare, but I can measure when I'm advancing and when I'm slacking off.
>All this time spent designing the thing is a waste because the end result is exactly the same as before you spent all this energy manipulating the facts into arbitrary numbers
The time I've spent arguing with you is much bigger than the time devising this scheme. If it helps me to do better, it will return benefits much bigger than the initial time expense.
>You remind me of my friend a little btw he have aspergers/mild autism,
Nice ad hominem. I like this one more than being compared to a godfag.
>a category not in the game, something he made up and then he put different things into this made up category instead of simply using the ones already there, the ones you could actually reference and define.
Do you realise that, unlike in games, in real life categories are arbitrary? There's no instruction booklet, no right way, etc. There's just reality. Meaning that if I use this system and helps me motivate me (and obviously I have some indication that this is probably the case in my past history) that's all that counts regardless of your opinion, right?
You not getting something doesn't invalidate that something. It would be foolish to think that way, but maybe you have more in common with Hans the Nazi than you initially thought. Go figure.
>>23883075
I compared you to him because that is the only reference in my life I have that fits, I like my friend, but he do things in ways that are more difficult than they need to be, and so are you.
I have told you many times, almost in every post, that if it helps you then good, do it, this whole debate escalated from you not being able to accept that I think it is pointless and that you have not given any arguments as to how it would generally be a better way, but as always, if you prefer this or you need a number to feel motivated then do it.
its kinda like if you have to flip the light switch on and off once before turning it on because you like counting to 3, sure, go ahead if it helps you sleep at night, but you will have a very hard time trying to make me say "yeah, I can totally see why that is a more effective way of doing it"
you could (and should) have moved on after this post
>>23879136
instead you have just gone on full defense and sucked me into a pointless vortex of repetition
pic related
>>23883107
>its kinda like if you have to flip the light switch on and off once before turning it on because you like counting to 3, sure, go ahead if it helps you sleep at night, but you will have a very hard time trying to make me say "yeah, I can totally see why that is a more effective way of doing it"
>I'm the one that's right here! If you want to do something unarguably pointless, that's your problem, not mine! :^)
You sure showed me. The reason I kept responding is because you adopted that attitude, like if gamification still didn't exist and that your inability to see how numbers can motivate someone somehow showcased some sort of superiority in any way.
>pic related
See?
>>23883131
So you actually had something real to back up this?
Why the fuck did you not just bring that up right away?
I'm not sure I can take you seriously anymore mate, you have already pretty much admitted to trolling with this post.
>>23883180
>t. the guy that wrote unironically "lol" several times.
>Why the fuck did you not just bring that up right away?
I never thought I'd find someone so genuinely autistic to be unable to understand that different people have different motivations and thought processes. Live and learn.
Here I go. In a certain subject, we had small exams in my first year of university. If you reached a certain score you could pass that subject without sitting the final exam. I draw by hand a chart, and plotted my grade with each weekly test, along with the "points remaining" to pass the subject without sitting the final exam.
Boom. There you go. Your mind must be blown now that you've seen how some people think differently from you, right lol bro?
>>23883206
sure thing, whatever, pretend the conversation never shifted
I did understand that fine, that is why I repeatedly told you to ignore MY PERSONAL OPINION on the matter
I'm done, if you are indeed serious then best of luck to you, you need it, I'd chuck in a few things about socializing more
and learn what the words you are using mean before you try to use them as insults, if not you just end up being wrong
>>23883233
What a waste of time. At least you reinforced my beliefs, so thanks for that one.
>>23883250
just remember you drove the conversation in this direction
I wanted to let it go a long time ago but honestly thought you wanted to get somewhere, not just troll me
>>23865733
Try and complement 2-3 people a day.
This also helps you be more social.
If you don't complete the task then take away something good like sweets, 4chan
Or punish yourself with a hard workout.
>>23883264
Thanks for the input, anon.
>>23865733
I like this
>>23885190
Then you'll love Kittens.
