Can we have one of those threads where you post and people tell you how to improve?
Things I already know:
Acne - not gonna go away with anything but accutane that I can't afford. Confirmed with derm. This pic has makeup on; it's the best I can get.
Lifting - waiting for my DNP to get here. Going to take 500mg for a month and then probably buy roids and THEN go start lifting.
I want to keep my hair longer instead of the Hitler youth cut every one has, but I don't know what to do with it. Also can someone tell me why the fuck I keep getting told I look like Eliot Rodger the supreme gentleman?
>>23757012
Flip the pic please. It looks skewed.
Also, roids are cheating and pointless. You're obviously not built at all. 1-2 years of lifting would pack on a lot of muscle.
>pic related is me. I never touched steroids. Fuck that shit.
>already planning on using powders and injections
good, at least you know your body type
>>23757012
Former accutane user here. Don't.
It doesn't actually always work, but it does actually always make you feel like shit.
It's not worth it.
Also use water-based foundation rather than oil-based, and replace pillowcase or put new towel on pillow every night. Works wonders. Don't overwash face, either. Wash face once a day with washcloth and gentle soap. Try something organic or whatever. Dr Bronners is great.
>>23757022
>>Also, roids are cheating and pointless. You're obviously not built at all. 1-2 years of lifting would pack on a lot of muscle.
I'm not willing to wait 2 years; I'm willing to wait 6 months.
Don't know why you needed this flipped but here you go.
>>23757048
Thanks.
>>23757055
>Also use water-based foundation rather than oil-based, and replace pillowcase or put new towel on pillow every night. Works wonders. Don't overwash face, either. Wash face once a day with washcloth and gentle soap. Try something organic or whatever. Dr Bronners is great.
I've had this issue for 8 years and have tried all of this many times. It just doesn't work.
>>23757012
I dont find you with that hairstyle, perhaps it's because of your heart-shape face, but maybe with an extra volume on your front part you could make all your good features show off more (like those eyes and tall nose).
>>23757066
So what do you want me to do with my hair then? I know it looks like shit as I haven't cut it in months.
Also, last time I did this someone suggested getting my eyebrows done. How do you do this? Sorry, I'm a shut-in.
Lemme have it /soc/
ps. I'm not the cat
i'm not interested in getting the ole nip and tuck anytime soon but what's the deal with my face?
>>23757061
your head looks short, do your hair so that it stands up a little more, or maybe do i like i do and get a tall truckers hat
>>23757012
>DNP
You're retarded if you're going to take dangerous chemicals before you've even started lifting.
Get off your ass and actually get fit before you consider any of that nonsense.
>>23757102
>dangerous
fuck off retard.
Didn't want to be mean, but seriously just fuck off.
>>23757061
Even in 6 months you can naturally put on 10-15lbs of muscle.
Using roids at the beginning of training indicates both stupidity and laziness. You'll never get as big or as strong as you could if you trained naturally first.
>Why do you even want to lift at all? Lifting DOES NOT get you girls or respect.
>>23757104
I hope you die then. Seriously.
Acute oral exposure to DNP has resulted in increased basal metabolic rate, nausea, vomiting, sweating, dizziness, headache, and loss of weight.[4] Chronic oral exposure to DNP can lead to the formation of cataracts and skin lesions and has caused effects on the bone marrow, central nervous system, and cardiovascular system.[4][5]
The worst part is you don't even have any muscle to show off.
>>23757105
>want to look like pic on right
>not willing to wait 2 years to look like pic on right
That's why roids and DNP. Need to drop at least 20lbs so 500mg DNP for a month + light exercise should do this. Probably add in an appetite suppressant too.
>>23757121
Okay but I won't because DNP isn't dangerous in dosages under 750mg/day so just fuck off you blithering idiot.
>>23757122
Right isn't even fucking impressive you tubby piece of shit.
I've cut my hair already. I don't have a recent picture, but I can probably figure something out if needed.
I've always felt I'm a 5/10, but tfw no gf.
>>23757122
All you need to do is go on a 4-6 month long low carb cut while building a strength base at the same time and then do hypertrophy work.
It would take you a year, tops, to make that change. Steroids won't speed it up much at all and are far from necessary for that body.
Stop being a lazy fatass and work. You've obviously never done it before though.
>>23757133
>impressive
I don't want to impress /fit/. I want to be happy with myself in the mirror, and that would be good enough for me and I wouldn't care about getting any bigger.
So again, fuck off retard. I'm fat but at least I'm not a fear mongering retard who thinks DNP is dangerous at 500mg.
>>23757138
Let him burn himself out and end up with cardiovascular problems that will leave him dizzy after walking a few hundred feet.
Not worth talking to someone suffering from this level of laziness and retardation.
>>23757138
>>It would take you a year, tops, to make that change. Steroids won't speed it up much at all and are far from necessary for that body.
Not willing to wait a year. I'm willing to wait 6 months. Steroid plan is 600mg Test-C/wk, 0.5mg adex /eod, 25mg mk-677/day with pct clomid, nolva, and ostarine.
>>23757144
(You)
>>23757149
Stay fat forever, faggot.
>>23757158
>Stay fat forever, faggot.
Not with DNP I won't. Now fuck off and kill yourself natty retard.
Easily the most pathetic thread in days.
>>23757162
The only thing your fat ass can cut is cake and your wrists.
You failed at life and you're gonna fail with steroids. They're not a magical cheat code dumbass.
>>23757162
>Says the fatass craterface.
>inb4 the mongoloid psycho aka brandon
>>23757169
>mad retard because someone is considering not doing natty because it's retarded when you can do steroids short term with literally zero negative effects if you manage it correctly
You can kill yourself too.
>>23757170
(You)
>>23757175
Even 300lb juicers would tell you to lift naturally first you fuckface.
Get up from the chair.
Go look in the mirror.
Strip naked.
Cry.
Kill your fat self.
>>23757179
www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101
>sit on ass eating pizza all day on roids
>make more gains than people exercising natty
Now kill yourself.
>>23757175
>I'm a loser that will always be a pockface fatass
>>23757189
>thinks calling me names on the internet is going to hurt my feelings
lmfao
Proceed
>>23757192
Don't cry too hard, you'll ruin your cake.
>>23757195
This will be your final (You).
Thanks for trying.
>>23757085
I would say anythig that looks similar to pic related will help to improve your face. You will look amazing!
>>23757199
Your Mountain Dew tears are delicious. Hope they don't infect the craters on your face.
DNP deaths
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/6800631/Deadly-diet-drug-DNP-claims-another-life-but-still-available-online.html
https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-h-word/2014/feb/06/dnp-deadly-weight-loss-drug-science-history
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/death-of-medical-student-sarah-houston-after-taking-banned-slimming-drug-dinitrophenol-highlights-8584597.html
7 deaths right there from people actually in shape. Some in the medical field and some actual bodybuilders.
Can't wait to see another name added to the list.
>>23757012
closet homosex fitfags pls go
>>23757229
>>http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/6800631/Deadly-diet-drug-DNP-claims-another-life-but-still-available-online.html
>bagged brown DNP from Hong Kong
>no indication of how much was taken
lmao
>https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-h-word/2014/feb/06/dnp-deadly-weight-loss-drug-science-history
>no indication of how much was taken or where it was from
>fear mongering cataracts when 3 out of 100,000 men who took it developed them during clinical trials
lmao
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/death-of-medical-student-sarah-houston-after-taking-banned-slimming-drug-dinitrophenol-highlights-8584597.html
>online trader from spain
>no indication of how much was taken
lmao
just fucking kill yourself retard. you are the kind of person who actually believes in "reefer madness"
also i commend your cognitive dissonance on ignoring this: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101 because it proves being a natty idiot is fucking stupid when you can sit on your ass and do roids and get more results.
>>23757248
Did I make babby upset?
FInish your cake and doritos.
>>23757248
>>23757246
I was actually just trying to keep someone from making a mistake but Tubby McCraterface didn't want to hear it.
>>23757253
>literally cannot argue
>attacks me for being fat because he cannot do anything else
sasuga retard
>>23757260
>Says he's not responding anymore
>Continues to respond
Keep the tears coming, fag.
>>23757263
What can I say? You baited me well with those fear mongering articles. If that's all you've got, and you're going to return to just calling me fat, then I'll stop responding again.
>>23757012
if you're really not willing to take others advice, people who have successfully gotten big without roids, then not only are you a lazy fuck, but ur also a tard
>>23757279
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101
>>23757273
Keep on crying, you'll never be in shape and you'll always be a crater-faced faggot that no one will ever respect or look upon pleasantly.
>>23757281
As I thought.
Final (You) again unless you provide me with more interesting bait.
>>23757012
relying on chemicals is only gonna set a precedent for being a lazy fuck for the rest of your life lmao
This is exactly what I'd like to gain from posting here
>>23757171
FUCKING CALLED IT
>>23757288
I never knew whales could cry as hard as you are.
>>23757305
Relying on chemicals to drop the weight I gained from being on chemicals in the first place so I can stop being too fat to go back to running 10ks is perfectly fine.
If you don't believe me telling you that they're safe, perhaps you'll believe the CDC?
http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+529
>Several clinical studies regarding the effects of 2,4-DNP or its sodium salt in obese and non-obese humans taking the drug for an intermediate duration at doses of 3.5-5.27 mg/kg/day 2,4-DNP have reported no deaths from this treatment. A woman who took 3-5 tablets a day of 2,4-DNP for several months, discontinued its use for 3 months, and then resumed taking 5 tablets a day for 1 week, became ill only after resumption of dosing and subsequently died.
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/ToxProfiles/tp64-c2.pdf
>There were no deaths, however, in a number of clinical and experimental studies in which obese or normal subjects were given 2,4-DNP or its sodium salt at oral dosages of 1.2-4.3 mg/kg/day 2,4-DNP for ≤ 14 days (Castor and Beierwaltes 1956; Cutting et al. 1934; Cutting and Tainter 1933; MacBryde and Taussig 1935; Stockton and Cutting 1934; Tainter et al. 1935b).
If you can find a single report of someone dying from
1. Non-chinese non-industrial grade DNP
2. Dosages under 500mg/day
Then I will consider believing your bullshit, but I really don't think you can.
>>23757171
>>23757316
Why even be in an advice giving thread if you're just going to breed negativity
>>23757321
Eating 10,000 kcals of Doritos and Mt. Dew Code Red don't count as "running 10k's".
You've got no one to blame except yourself for your gluttony and acne.
>>23757200
I'm not really a fan of Hitler youth type haircuts. Do you have any other suggestions with longer hair?
OP is the dumbest nigga I've ever seen on /soc/
For once Brandon isn't the biggest fag in a thread.
>>23757401
Thanks for the bump.
help guise, thanks :)
help a nig out
>>23757012
Anabolic steroids are not bad if you do them properly, all the negative stigma is from bullshit media sources and stupid MLB rulings. All the side effects go away when you stop using. But while on it, you may have worse acne. Also, learn to cycle properly, eat well, lift hard, and do post post cycle therapy.
Bigger, faster, stronger is a great documentary on steroid usage and shows both sides of it.
>>23757055
It worked for me, i felt sorta lethargic on it some days, and the dry lips were killer, but other than that it wasn't bad. I didn't feel suicidal or anything, my derm even told me they put so many warnings and stuff on it because some senator's kid killed himself while on it and they decided to blame the acne medication, while it was probably because their parent was a senator and too busy to spend time with them.
>>23758286
To add onto my original post, DNP is way riskier than steroids. Skip the DNP, and just do steroids and lift like twice a day. The extra boost in activity with minimal downtime is going to burn up all your calories stored in fat.
em pleh
>>23758294
I'm gonna do the DNP regardless. If you are smart enough to know that steroid dangers and blown out of proportion then you should be smart enough to know that it is the same for DNP. 1lb of fat every 2 days is simply too good to pass up in my current state.
>>23757022
more wide grip pull-ups
>>23757012
Lmfao. This retard actually thinks he'll look good from this "well thought out" plan. Might as well kill yourself right away you delusional idiot. Again, lmfao.
>>23759558
which part of it is not well thought out?
see >>23757321, >>23757180
>>23759564
You must have misunderstood my intention, I'm not here to engage in a discussion with you because it's obvious from the rest of the thread you think you know it all.
I'll answer your question though: The part where you don't know anything about building a decent body, thinking just taking AAS will magically give you a good, well-proportioned physique.
Spoiler: Bodybuilding isn't just a chemical science.
>>23759570
it will give me muscle growth and the DNP will reduce bf% which is literally all it takes assuming i do the right exercises and don't simply focus on a single place.
this isn't bodybuilding, either. it's just having a little more muscle and a lot lower bf%. i would probably quit after being able to bench 150lbs.
>>23757310
The only thing that will fix you at this point is committing yourself.
>>23759574
You said you were going to take AAS without training first. Great exercise selection!
>this isn't bodybuilding either
>more muscle, less fat
K then.
Like I said, not going to waste my time any more than I already have here.
>>23759628
>You said you were going to take AAS without training first.
I'm going to take it concurrently with training.
