Anyone else here who doesn't mastutbate? I haven't orgasmed in two months and try to meditate through the urge wbu
Mastutbate*
>>23480627
My gf claims she doesn't masturbate. Pretty weird if you ask me.
>>23480642
I do it to harness the sexual energy and transform into creative energy. Why's it weird?
>>23480627
I wish I had the natural urge to masturbate. I've brought myself to orgasm before, but there was never any lead up. Just a decision to try it out that night.
My non existent sex drive has ruined every relationship I've tried to keep up.
I think I've gone a month now? I can easily go multiple months. Years wouldn't bother me.
I wish I cared.
I've done no fap a number of times and it always ends up the same way, I will have a wet dream and then feeling like fapping again.
I think I need to get used to actually having wet dreams and the continuing not touching myself.
>>23480627
you should try and cum at least once a week.
doesn't the chance of prostate cancer increases if you don't cum often?
I'm celibate so I don't masturbate. It originated in my cuckold fetish. I split up with my gf so I could imagine her being fucked by other guys, and she has dated a few though she says she wants to get back with me. She has no idea what goes on in my mind. I look at porn but I haven't orgasmed in about 8 months.
>>23480853
I'm a woman
>>23480627
I try no fap and then I forget why the fuck I'm even doing this when the evidence is slim at best and it's likely just a placebo and then I fap. I need to have a better reason then some random dude on the internet saying it will fix all your problems.
>>23480924
Is there a reason or are you just testing to see how long you can hold off? I did that once but with popping my fingers instead.
>>23480918
You should just swing man. It's the way men with secret cuck fetishes have gotten other men to fuck their wives while they watched in a slightly more socially acceptable way.
>>23480938
I'm too deeply in to find that satisfying. It would feel like I was denying my real feelings of wanting humiliation. Last time I fucked my gf was last July and I haven't cummed since.
>>23480937
I want to harness all my creative energy to produce good art and writing
>>23480991
So masturbation takes your creativity away? Sorry, just trying to understand since I can't relate.
>>23481010
I view sexual energy as being creative energy, creating life and being at the root of all of our energy so I can harness it instead of letting it escape used up for base pleasures and convert it into creative energy. Does that make sense in theory? If not ask and I will try to explain another way. :)
>>23481018
If you have other things to say on it, I'd love to hear since this is so interesting to me.
I'm curious to hear more what you mean about it being the root of all energy?
Makes me a little depressed, though. I wonder if I would have more creativity or more energy if I had that.
>>23481030
okay, I know many anons will laugh at me but I will explain how I use this knowledge to help myself in my life...
Disclaimer, I'm not in a new age cult. I'm simply on an eternal journey of self development
So if you imagine the root chakra which is at the very base of you this is where it all starts, this is the place where sexual energy accumulates, this energy can then be pictured making its way up the body until it reaches the area in the body that is dedicated to creative expression and released there rather than being released at the base for sexual purposes. I think that it is not efficient to release that sexual energy on your own because no one is receiving it therefore it is wasted and a base pleasure of this world that is not in alignment with your higher self...your future self.
>>23481044
So what does it mean for my chakras if I'm never/hardly ever experiencing sexual energy?
>>23481044
I don't think you're being too weird. Western biomedicine created the concept of split between mind and body, and disregarded the concept of spirit and energy in order to study the science without disruption from the Christian church.
Without those restrictions, now our culture is slowly becoming accepting of energy and mind and how to apply them in holistic multidimensional health.
It sounds new age, but it's all very old when looking at health in other cultures.
>>23481057
that would mean yours in under-active and you are probably also disconnected from the world around you, by that I mean the earth itself. Do you think you would feel more like a primate in terms of sex if you met someone you loved? Perhaps you're just not a huge perverted primate in that sense. Did you love those women with every fibre of your being and wanted to become one with them? Did they teach you things? Were they mentally, emotionally and physically exciting enough for you?
>>23481079
I don't know, I was pretty happy with them at the time. I'm a chick by the way. Bi though. It's not important.
Sometimes I get some sex drive. Once every 1-4 months. I've had good sex that I enjoyed. I wasn't particularly horny in the lead up, but I liked it when it happened.
I really deeply cared for them. I put made a lot of sacrifices because I thought they were worth it. I called it love at the time but I don't know how to look back and properly analyze what I felt. I don't feel that way any more about them.
I've even had casual sex I enjoyed.
Sorry. I'm rambling. This doesn't matter. Let's get back to your theory.
Can you tell me more about connection with the world and earth?
>>23480627
Hey OP, you got a Skype? Interesting thread.
>>23480627
woman here too. Also an artist and wanna try not fapping for this reason. Do you have any links/ information?
>>23480627
>Anyone else here who doesn't mastutbate?
I'll have you know I've never mastutbated in my entire life!
There seem to be somewhat opposing thoughts on whether and when masturbation might be healthy.
There's the conservation school, where the energy of procreation is an organism's highest and most concentrated form and thus should be conserved, not wasted.
There's the exercise school, where the practice of orgasm strengthens the energetic body of the organism, just like exercising strengthens a muscle.
I believe those are just two ways of seeing a single continuum: too little exercise is as unhealthy for a body as too much, and the right balance is somewhere in between.
>>23483429
How do you find the balance?
Shouldn't this bullshit be on /x/?
>>23484552
I'm not certain you're asking about me personally (as opposed to using "you" meaning the more general "one"), but I'll answer just for myself.
For me it's an awareness or an attention practice, much like anything else.
How do I know when to exercise, to eat, or drink, or sleep? To do these well, to do them in partnership with my body (as opposed to doing them *to* my body, thus unconsciously recreating and deepening the mind-body split even as I try to heal it) I have to listen to what my body is telling me and respond. At the same time I have to use my knowledge to exercise conscious choice, not simply have my body reactively determine what I do (much as I might head to the gym on a day I would rather stay home, or I resist having the piece of delicious cheesecake when I'd much rather devour it).
So for me finding this balance is just the practice of finding the balance between any two things: *I have to stay connected to both things at all times (not just swing between the two polarities), make conscious choices, and feel the effect of my choices on both things*.
To this end a heart-centered meditation practice is essential. Heart center is the place that can bridge and connect two opposites. (This is the reason for the Christian symbolism of Christ's suffering on the cross, it's the act of infinite compassion - heart center - healing the mind-body split. But heart center isn't specific to Christianity, rather, Christianity is specific to heart center. Other religions represent different parts of the energetic body).
Once I can bridge two opposites of any kind then I can bring my ability to bridge and connect to bringing together my own mind and body, and in particular, their needs for sexual energy (both giving and receiving).
Said without the overview, I try to pay attention to everything all at once, make good choices about what to do, and remain connected to all the parts to feel the consequences of my choices and actions.
Make sense?
>>23484709
I did mean it in the general you, but hearing your process does help start to answer that.
I'm still working on how to apply this to myself. I'm not really healthy on any of those things.
It sounds like you've really got things figured out. You must be happy and at peace.
>>23480627
I really like this painting
>>23484828
>You must be happy and at peace.
Ha, I wish! Though I've come to accept I also like having both peace and strife in my life - nothing but happiness feels as unbalanced for me as nothing but turmoil.
I guess I do like the feeling of having some choice about which one I get at any particular moment. That part is nice.
If you're discouraged about where you are and how well you're doing (I can't quite tell), definitely don't be. Noticing, awareness, realizing there's something that one wants to change - or that there's even a thing there at all - is the first, hardest, and most essential step in journey. It's the step from unconsciousness into consciousness, from nothingness into being.
That you can say anything at all about your health means you've already done the hardest part - starting to become aware of your health and your relationship to it at all.
From here on it's just work. Sort of like getting in better physical shape, the hardest part is first noticing and then committing to do something about it.
Whether it's sex or sit-ups, all the rest is just reps.
Good luck and don't give up.
p.s. Sounds like you could also be well-served by finding some people from (or with) whom to learn, rather than re-inventing this very old wheel because you think you're alone and have to discover everything yourself.
mastutbating madly
Tried to do a week of nofap, gave up on the 4th day. Too hard.
>>23484938
>Good luck and don't give up.
I'll try my best. Thank you, anon.
