Last thread died like we will soon
Regular OP here, 27/m/NYC
Pre-thread sup to the group of 40y/o men I share the city with, and the two moms that run the thread.
How's it going you old fuckos?
>tfw no old gf
>>23136855
This thread is a "thing" now? And how do the old moms "run" the thread? Do they post tits?
26/F/NJ here. Gonna be 27 soon.
32, male, middle of nowhere
>>23138669
32 m NJ
kik: goblue46200
29 f PA here
>>23136855
29/m WA State. Standard stuff, career, pretty happy in general. Skipped a lot of the fun stuff though and now I realize just how dull and basic younger girls are. Actually, if I met a 19 year old that I didn't have to coddle or run everything I say through a mental filter that would be fantastic, but age isn't really a factor if attraction is there as well.
Just turned 28.
My bones hurt.
>>23139088
Just turned 28.
My boner hurts.
ftfy
>>23139088
Start working out, stretching and taking supplements and have a regular activity that requires you be physically fit. Your test won't start going down for a few more years and won't be so low you'll be 'old' until past 40...if you take care of yourself.
I just turned 31 last week. I didn't really celebrate besides the "party" they threw me at work.
I've been trying to find a fun submissive girl to play with but not much has been happening. Fetlife isn't helpful unless you're a woman, a black guy, or a gay guy. Reddit was just as useless.
I saw my ex on okcupid. She's gotten really fat and that made me feel better about things.
I haven't had a cigarette in three months. I switched to vaping and have been feeling pretty good about it until those annoying vape fags start trying to talk to me about building coils and unregulated mods. I don't even know what that shut means. Why do they have to be so annoying?
I miss cuddling and playing with a girls titties. That shit is the best.
I got really excited when Amazon texted me and told me my packages were delivered. It felt kind of sad that a text from Amazon was the highlight of my day.
>>23138861
pitt or phili?
>>23136855
27 yo here. My dick is starting not to work. Still not married. Trying to get a girl preggo but think i'm sterile. Thinking about testosterone and Viagra to get hard again?
>>23139384
This...
>>23139183
Applies to you too cupcake.
>>23139471
Nah. i have a varicocele. I actually have very low test and am unable to grow a beard. It's biology. I just wanna live as an alpha for a few year so thinking about getting on test/roids so I can live hard doing cocaine and not giving a fuck for awhile
Turned 25 in December. Can I be a member of the club?
40/ny here. Bored and always willing to chat with anyone about anything.
Kik necr0tic
>>23139537
You realise they can repair a varicocele. If you want to be 'alpha' you still have to get off your lazy ass and work for it
28 year old married guy with kids.
Is it wrong of me to not feel manly because I still can't grow facial hair? It's just a mental thing I have, I'm sure. My wife doesn't even want me to have facial hair, but god damnit I'm so jealous of this trend where almost every guy has facial hair.
32/m/NY
Bicurious
Webcams/porn
Jerk off buddy
Skype: clst_teamstr
Kik : clst_teamstr
Op why are you always so mean.
>>23142164
hahahhaa big body for such a tiny piece of shit cock
30/M Tokyo.
>>23136855
>Last thread died
>like we will soon
>soon
i feel old now...
>>23142643
Speak for yourself. I am just getting started.
I'm terrified of dying tho
>>23142687
>Speak for yourself. I am just getting started.
now i feel old and jealous. just turned 27 yesterday.
>>23142693
I turn 29 in 13 daysss
>>23142707
boy oh boy, that's even ooooolder. how's life beeing an oldie?
>fucking captchas are fucking with me...again
>>23142127
Don't worry mate that's not important imo. Seen immature guys with beard and mature without so no real connection.
Its better having no facial hair than having only a bit and looking like a trimmed pussy.
I'm male 26 btw just finished study and am bored
40/m
what's up Anons? Hows life treating everyone?
>>23142719
It's okay. I still have a few more years of looking young. I'll survive.
>>23142786
First I was afraid, I was petrified
Kept thinking I could never live without you by my side
But then I spent so many nights thinking how you did me wrong
And I grew strong and I learned how to get along
>I'll survive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiTJ7CNS7H4
>few more years of looking young
consider me jelly again, losing my hair tho i'm compensating with a beard instead.
>>23142802
If I was a guy I'd be terrified of balding but beards are awesome for guys with chubby faces. I can't cover up my round cheeks and chin.
>>23142810
>terrified of balding
it's actually not thaaaat bad when you get used to it.
the shaving is annoying but therefore i don't shave my face.
>>23142768
Decent. How are you
>>23142851
Some guys pull it off well! But yeah constant shaving your head meh. How big is your beard though?
31 m ca. Being old sucks.
>>23142856
Im doing well, thanks for asking.
Just bought a new car, have been sticking to my resolutions. This year is off to a good start.
>>23142875
>How big is your beard though?
pretty big and out of form (kinda wild), growing for a year by now. i should get a proper cut to get it in form but meeeeeeh, kinda like it this way.
but i don't need a scarf and still feel warm, that's a plus.
>>23142893
mhhhh, not just fucking up my captchas but my resolution as well. fuck you too 4chan.
>>23142893
> bald head
> beard
> glasses
Are you me?
>>23142910
>Are you me?
ha, my brother from another mother.
>>23142892
>Just bought a new car
which one did you get?
>>23142893
holy crap thats so much beard! do you clean it often? I dont mind when a guy has a small beard but I start becoming weary when I worry about proper upkeep and hygiene.
>>23142959
>do you clean it often?
i don't know...like...i shower every day?!?! if you meant that? and i use oil.
>>23143032
What kind of oil?
>>23143032
do you wash your beard in the shower?
>>23143175
it's called "Zirndorf", smells like a forest full of christmas trees. 100% natural mixture of lots of different natual oils. pretty neat.
>>23143189
>do you wash your beard in the shower?
tbqh that's a pretty retarded question. of course i do. why wouldn't i?
>>23143240
hahaha I have no idea if men shampoo their beards in the shower
>>23142893
>>23142910
sup, bearded!
>>23142914
I got a 2016 Jeep Wrangler. It's pretty sweet.
>>23143264
>if men shampoo their beards in the shower
i have to, otherwise there is no foam at all. haha. but it dries pretty quick, kidna different to when i had long hair.
>>23143266
damn, great fucking beard. man i miss the times when i had long hair.
>>23143278
>2016 Jeep Wrangler
sweet, going off road with it?
>>23143266
Nice beard there.
>>23143288
I've had a beard for two years and only found out now that you should use shampoo. Damn, maybe I should try it.
>>23143307
Eventually... but ill be keeping it clean for a little while. I bought it for beach fun.
>>23143288
>>23143320
seeeeeee
think of all the shit that would be in a beard too: snot, boogers, saliva, face oil, food, sweat, etc
>>23143320
>maybe I should try it
do it, when it's cold and dry outside i get pretty dry skin, especially under my beard. the oil and shampoo help big times. and it keeps the beard fluffy as fuck instead of scruffy. which i don't mind but girls kinda do aaand it helps with skin as well.
>>23143350
>I bought it for beach fun.
hahaha. that ain't too bad either.
>>23143403
yeah, according to scientists it's a breeding ground for all kind of shit but meeh.
my only outstanding feature is the beard so i take care of it.
>>23143445
yeah I worry about this when thinking about making out with a guy that has a beard.
what am I about to rub all over my face....
>>23143486
hahahahaha, safety first, better not try it at all.
>>23143552
>avoid men with beards
Impossible
30/m
>>23143653
So you have survived after the zombies.
>>23143637
>Impossible
true, in this time and age we are everywhere. shorry.
>>23143733
I like guys with beards. Just shorter ones I guess, maybe its the trimmed looked that makes me think its cleaner? I dunno lol
Sigh I'll be 30 in 5 years. Woe is me. At least I look good.
25 and wishing I had an 18 year old hanging off my penis. Guess that ship sailed.
>>23144028
I heard that comes later? Like guys in their late 20/early 30s just sleep with young girls?
I fucked up trimming my new beard two months ago and decided to go with chops. I like it.
28 here
i'm short, 5'4" and always got carded when buying rolling papers.
now they just ask me if im of age. feels....ok man.
got no friends cause everyone moved on. i spend my days going to work, going home, smoking weed the rest of the day and grinding league of legends.
it's not a horrible life but i feel pretty dead inside. if only i grew up like the rest of my peers.
>>23144355
If you feel dead inside why not try reduce the gaming and go to clubs and gym instead?
>>23144355
Yes... grow the fuck up.
You know that shit you think about doing but never do? Guess what? You can actually try some of that shit.
Stop smoking weed, stop grinding vidya, get the fuck out if the house and live your life. Youre on the path to regret my friend... but its not too late.
31.m.married
wife and I live together. but haven't had sex in 2 months now. She doesn't want it. :/
Been going crazy with the urges - putting it off with porn and attempted anonymous sext sessions (unsuccessful).
That's my story.
>>23144932
Ok... I've been through this. You need to have a heart to heart. If you dont let her know how important the sex life is, nothing will change. What happens when you ask her for sex?
>>23145025
we hug, we kiss. but when my hands wander, she pushes them away. :/
>>23145092
So clearly something is going on with her mentally that needs to be addressed. She is your wife, communication is so important. You NEED to talk to her about this and see what can be done otherwise this is going to end very badly.
>>23145092
You gotta lay things out. Be kind and respectful but firm. Put a reasonable time limit for change to Happen within. Say 6 months
>>23145110
>>23145125
I tried talking to her about what's going on.. she'd not answer it. but the sexual frustration is picking up. i might do things that could ruin the relation.
>>23145169
Her not answering is concerning. A successful marriage will have its ups and downs, but poor communication between the two of you will surely end badly.
>>23138654
It's just that I remember a time when actual moms posted actual nudes. I remember "Sec-Mom" and "RDM".
You might be unable to recall these threads....
33 and what is this about shampooing beards?
Kik roundhouseuppercut
I'm into fat chicks
>>23144028
When I turned 28 I became teen catnip. I don't know what happened but the girls started the themselves at me. Watch out for the underage ones that lie about their age.
25\ny specifically LI . Does it suck being this age or not, I still don't know
>>23145169
My wife was this way. She started by telling me to find some side action a few years ago. Now we are getting a divorce because she refuses to talk about or go to counseling. So start talking now.
31
Being old is... OK? I'm not looking forward to middle age. I'm not married and I don't feel like I make enough money.
I will sometimes shampoo my beard and always use conditioner/beard oil. Otherwise it gets super dry.
I live in Utah so maybe it's different elsewhere.
25/m/NJ
Turning 26 this year and I still feel like I'm stumbling through life, though it's not all bad, I guess I'm doing what I love for a living so that's something.
27/f/OH
I am currently contemplating on whether I want to purchase a spiral slicer for veggies.
Today I made sugarless 1 carb brownies and they were pretty good.
And I recently got my first boyfriend after being a hermit for eleven years.
2016 is okay so far.
27.m.philly
Just turned 27 and utterly bored of the same routine.
Hit me up on snapchat if someone actually wants to meet up: gt86_racer
>>23145767
I live on LI. 25 is a great age to get ass from 18-40 yo's. Take advantage of it.
>>23144355
27 and same as you...
>>23139231
Fuck, this is going to be me
>>23145940
good job btw, from fellow ohioan. hope you're enjoying the weather
35/m/Miami
Things are going I guess
26/f/ks
No husband, no children, no boyfriend (although I think I will have a boyfriend soon, its a weird situation).
Anyway I've got a couple dogs. I'm cool with it.
>>23146424
Hello Allison
>>23146427
Nope?
.......Is there seriously another 26 yr old chick from ks with dogs?
>>23146455
I mean on /soc/ obviously.
>>23146455
No idea about /soc/, just know one on Skype that works at a law office
>>23146326
Yeah, it's not that bad as long as you give up any and all expectations, then it gets really easy.
>>23146488
It ain't me, babe.
But hello anyway.
>>23146536
It might not even be her name since all we did for phone sex and stuff like that daily hahah why am I saying this
>>23146488
Is it me?
>>23146577
...it's not me.
I was assigned an intern at work. She's young and pretty and just so damned happy. It's kind of uplifting. It's just too bad her incredibly hard to miss camel toe is such a distraction. She's been here a week and every day she's wearing these pants that do nothing but accentuate her camel toe. This has raised questions for me. Does she know what's going on? Is it comfortable? Is it intentional? Does she own any skirts or pants that aren't three sizes too small?
I left work early yesterday just to see the new Star Wars movie again. I didn't say anything to anyone and just left. Either no one noticed or no one gives a fuck. I'm perfectly OK with this.
I almost tried to hit on a woman at a coffee shop today. She was reading a book I enjoyed before and thought it might be a good starting point. Then I realized she was sober and it was three in the afternoon. Those are not the best conditions for me.
I'm more upset about Top Gear ending than not talking to my father in a decade.
I still don't understand why people think I care about their kids. Every idiot with kids I talk to has to work them into the conversation and I don't get it. I'm just trying to get the client sheet so I can do my job and your kid making cookies has nothing to do with it. Unless there are cookies available to me, otherwise I don't care.
>>23146606
>Talk to HR, develop a selective blindspot, or tell it to a bear.
>You're completely irrelevant to the happenings in your workspace.
>Starting a cold conversation about a book that a complete stranger might be reading for the first time under those circumstances makes you look like an even bigger autist than myself right now.
>Tell it to a bear.
>Because dealing with that sort of garbage is part of the social contract that allows people to function within a stable work environment wherein nobody really likes one another, but are forced to find some sort of inoffensive conversation piece so that the work day might pass without seeming absolutely dystopian.
>>23146599
I know it's not lol
>>23146637
>Talk to HR
That sounds like it would be even more awkward than the current situation.
Also, where would I find a bear that would listen to me without mauling me? I'm really not trying to get mauled these days.
>>23146655
There's usually a bear in a zoo somewhere willing to listen. Also, Pandas are pretty comatose creatures. Excellent listeners, but poor conversationalists.
>>23146676
Yeah, but would the panda be able to understand me? I don't know any kind of Chinese so it would be useless if they can't understand me.
>>23146689
If your post was meant to be taken as complaining it's a valid issue to be brought up with HR, particularly if it's inappropriate workplace attire.
As for telling it to a bear, you can either go and risk a wild one in the woods, waste your time in the zoo, half-ass it with a koala under the excuse of colloquialism, or... go to bear country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FEQKQXmoC4
>>23143897
> I dunno lol
just personal preferences, nothing wrong with that.
>>23146723
It's not even a complaint, just a question. Like what is going on with that? Why is it like that?
A koala wouldn't even be half ass, it's a damn marsupial. It's no kind of bear. Plus the little bastards are stoned as fuck on eucalyptus all the time.
>>23146689
Who says Pandas speak Chinese? I've heard that they're pretty good at Russian, but in general they listen pretty well.
It's mostly about telling someone, far less about getting anything done, because no matter who you tell, bear, cat, cougar, wolf, bird of paradise, HR... the results are the same.
Nothing happens.
>>23146789
I'm convinced that I'm slowly becoming a less trashy Carl.
hi thread im 27, phd student. upstate ny. i post in soc for validation because i have low self-esteem. sometimes i give out my skype but the only people that ever add me are guys who want to show me their dicks
>>23142081
omg ilu
>>23146868
Are we talking 315 near Canada upstate or 518 "more like the middle of the state" upstate?
>>23146897
315
>>23146767
Not stoned, smooth-brained. They're damn retards.
As for the answer to your question, only the idiot wearing attention seeking clothing could give it. The daughter in Weather Man was called Camel Toe because she was woefully unaware of the feature, but after the age of 15, any given person loses that grace.
>>23146868
Seems you pretty much summed up 4chan
>>23146921
Cool. I went to rehab out that way years ago. Those winters are fucking brutal.
>>23146929
>but after the age of 15, any given person loses that grace.
I was unaware of this.
>>23146954
ohhh i know where you're talking about!! yeah >.> it's been schizophrenic this winter but it finally got cold and im not going outside again this week until friday haha
>>23146981
Yeah, the one up by the prison and the bridge. It was the most peaceful Christmas I ever had.
>>23146868
Well if it's validation you want, you deserve it - you honestly look amazing and it's hard for me to understand what causes your low self esteem...
32/m/Israel here
skype: jamegumb158
33 M
Awake and lonely
>>23145940
Why so long? Any dick in that 11 years?
33 / M here.
Needed a break from life so I tried Green Peace and WWOOFING.
Prefer WWOOF program, more fun and a great way to travel.
>>23143486
Ladies don't seem to mind making out with me at all and I have a beard, albeit a trimmed one. Plus making out with a man that shaves is often like making out with sandpaper. Our so I've heard.
>>23146868
Well you are very pretty. I'm 41 M WA. If you ever want to chat, I actually like making meaningful connections with people, so if that sounds appealing, hit me up! My Skype is captain.brill
M/27/WA
My sexual frustration from being a virgin and having what seems to be a high sex drive but being unable to do anything about it has gotten to the point where it's literally physically painful. I am constantly in a "blue ball" state every moment I'm awake. I can't sleep because the blue ball "pain" wakes me up.
I get full blown boners just from seeing women in public. I have to fap 3 times in a row on average to abate my urges.
I live with my parents who work from home. There's no way I could bring a woman over even if I actually connected with somebody.
The sad part is, I'm not even ugly or socially awkward. I simply can't get aroused unless a woman makes the first move, which no woman will do.
33/m/aus
Married two kids, sex addict. My wife thinks she is my sex slave and chef, I don't necessarily disagree
I want moar.
I write pov erotica when bored and write pessimistic poetry that turns literate moms on.
I run a double life on an online game.
The thirst never stops.
>>23146868
Do you have a kik or just skype?
>>23147337
Do you have contact info, anon? Maybe we could voice chat
25/f/Wa
>>23147380
I'd love to voice chat skype is
Daveross144
Ireland
>>23147380
Kik: Warhollives
>>23147380
Still around?
This
>>23139025
Is me.
Skype is commiscore
27/m/straight NY
skype : justdaT1ME
>>23146606
You should do a diary and sell it.
>>23148219
I'm not vain enough to think anyone would pay money for my thoughts. This is just cheaper than group therapy.
Anyone else in their 40's ?
45/m/UK
>>23148367
Post kik!
>>23148377
Ha, I'm in my 40's, I don't use Kik. I don't even have a FB. Far from a technophobe though, I simply have no use for them. I like email.
>>23147470
Shot you a message mister
>>23147546
Oh? Are you looking to voice chat?
>>23147394
>if we had voice chat for this group we could've listened to an Irishman talk all day
You guys ruin all my fun
>>23146954
By "loses that grace", I mean "they lose the right to be unaware that they're dressing inappropriately in certain social settings".
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of places or situations where it doesn't matter, but most of the time anymore it's just a cause for bullshit.
25/FtM/moving anywhere
I've been working shoveling snow in Detroit. I'm sick of this shit. Anyone need a roomate I'm exchange for sex and chores till I get a new landscaping gig.
Kik:mangrypikachu
>>23148492
Pic?
>>23147348
I only use skype, sorry.
>>23147296
I will add you later today ^^
>>23148396
We can if you want. I actually have a really good mic for it.
I did all my adult stuff today. Then I found funny faces while bored. Enjoy my dolla dolla bill face.
>>23149301
pretty gif filter. filters are like magic.
26 soon to be 27. at least fl is comfy now
>>23149340
you're very pretty, thanks for sharing
>>23148778
Yay!
>>23149301
>>23149340
holy crap you look so much like a girl i know...wow
>>23149640
hope its not actually me.
>>23148515
>>23148428
Skype me if u want to chat I dont mind private
>>23149623
thank you :)
>>23149792
how old are you?
>>23148367
42, been here since the beginning. Still kill a bit of time here.
31/M/SF Bay
Being "old" is awesome.
I'm bigger, stronger and more fit then I've ever been. I have money to do the shit I want to. I still get carded everywhere unless I grow a beard. Younger girls are still dtf me (it probably helps that I tell them I'm 26). I'm better in bed. I'm more confident in general.
Thank god for maturing late I guess.
My only complaint is that after too many years of high impact sports my knees aren't quite what they used to be.
29/m/nj
i wish i was 15 again, and a girl.
>>23149340
Im sure you're pretty even without filters.
>>23148778
You can add me on skype of you like. Name is young_soulja1521
I made it long long ago hence the stupid name.
A woman sent me a message on okcupid today and my first thought was how damaged is this chick. My last relationship has left me in such a way I try to figure how damaged every woman I meet is. I don't want to fix them or anything like that, just trying to avoid any real madness.
I heard a Taylor Swift song from someone's car window today and nearly went into a rage. It was the same song that crazy bitch used to play on repeat. What the fuck is wrong with me? Is her residual insanity still clinging to my mind? It's been more than a year. Why can't my subconscious move on?
Camel toe the intern was as perky and bubbly as ever. I got to hear her tell me all about her Christmas vacation in Florida. I never understood the appeal of Florida. I spent two weeks in Miami and hated it. Between the heat, humidity, bugs and people it was my own perfect hell.
I had to do a customer consultation this afternoon. I spent the whole time looking up SD cards on Amazon and wondering what kind of lingerie the customer was wearing under her business casual boredom.
I got so bored during the department meeting today I ripped the stitches out of my hand. The scar will look pretty cool in a couple weeks.
>>23144355
Don't worry homie. They feel dead inside too.
>>23150746
You're single handedly making this thread super depressing
>>23150887
Well, what else is there to do here?
>>23150900
Do whatever you feel like you gotta do, I'm just saying, that is some depressing stuff man.
>>23136855
28/m/CT
kik: metalhead
>>23149903
i wish you were too.
>>23146868
What's your Skype account? I won't show you my dick unless you ask!
25/f Australia Skype - sleepisforthestrong
Holidays are hot and boring. How's everyone doing?
>>23151841
I'm doing alright but according to that other guy I'm depressing. How's the world on your end?
>>23151841
Trying new job prospects. Kinda regret getting this degree seeing as the market is now over saturated with it.
>>23151883 what did you study?
>>23151882 Also fine, just sleepy and too hot to move. 40c
>>23151953
Biology. Apparently there is too damn much of that here in the states.
42/M/Norway
'Sup.
turn 31 in a little over a week. my grey hairs are starting to mount. i hate pretty much everything.
is this where i tell the kids to get off my god damn lawn?
>25 year old male
>realize that love is a lie
>incredibly depressed
Getting older sucks ass.
27 male here. Any grills in the md/dc/va area?
>>23151841
A rare female Australian. Which part of Aus?
>>23153332
That's where I'm from but slightly terrified of people I know in real life on 4chan
>>23154277
My ID changed...
30 year old dude from 604 Canada. Live in a small apartment with my long term gf and a couple cats. I like a lot of things in my life, other than my career prospects. I graduated from a design program at a decent art college right around 2009, when an arts degree was doublely worthless. Worked whatever shitty job I could and saved little by little, until fate blew out of the sky and I inherited some money from a distant relative. Used it to change cities and get started trying to find a job that would let me draw stuff. Then my life stalled out.
It's some years past, at least three probably closer to five. My life consists of brief moments of productivity followed by long bouts of depression and anxiety at the thought that I'm wasting my life. I get a little bit of freelance work, but the money is starting to run real dry. I'm hoping this will be a good thing. Give me a reason to try to talk to a human being again.
Other than that life's okay. I live extremely cheap, do most of my own cooking and buy almost nothing other than the occasional steam game. I spend a lot of time lurking on sites like this one. Which probably makes me feel older than I need to. I'm trying to make it a good thing though, forcing myself to post in threads like this one. Maybe feel like a human being again.
yours truly
-Goodtimes McPartyblaster. Esq
>>23145583
the good old days
>>23150746
i'll keep reading your depressing shit. Also people talk about their kids because they have nothing else going on in their lives. They hate their familes and kids and they literally have no interests.
26/f. Being old/an adult is convenient once you realize that no one fells like an adult and we are all big children and also that the world is hell. i love living in hell though.
>>23154920
I want to punch you in your face. Where do you live?
>>23154961
You gotta let me punch you in the face first tho. boston, MA
>>23154920
I probably shouldnt be in this thread because im only 22 but i feel like i get along wirh older people. I dont live that party lifestyle, or constantly have to be with friends like so many people my age do. Hell my best friend is 26, and my 2 other close friends are 24. Once life hits you you realize that you dont have to constantly talk to your friends everyday. We're all busy now and we get that. We see eachother when we can but that doesnt make you any less of a friend than before. I guess also having a daughter at this age has helped me settle down and start doing things with the mindset of her first amd me second.
>>23154920
People with children talk about their kids because it's the biggest and most important thing in their lives to them. It makes perfect sense.
>>23150811
Thx meng lol
Tbh....after im high..feels good man haha
26/m here..
Been feeling like I'm slipping closer and closer to depression. I live in the basement of a townhouse that I rent. I work 2 jobs just to pay the rent with a little left over for myself. I have no friends and get all my socializing thru work. Usually this doesn't bother me but I'm getting lonelier and lonelier by the day. Compounded with the fact that being alone every night leaves me to nothing but my thoughts which tend to linger on the failures in life that lead me to where I am. I feel like I'll never know success and love.
>>23154920
Yeah it's hellish for sure. I understand parents fixation on their children though. It's biologically and socially normal within the age demographic. A huge reason people hate their kids yet obsess over them is that they have no barometer in terms of parental behavior. They either don't know what to aspire too as a parent or don't have the tools to realize their goals.
I'm a 27/M doing a pediatric psychiatry residency and it's depressing me to no end. So many kids and parents are fucked up. I tell myself I'm just seeing the worst demographics but it doesn't help.
>>23155030
You won't get a hit in.
>>23155120
Exactly. Surprise we love our children. Sorry >>23154920 if you felt unloved as a kid but don't wish that upon every child.
>>23155090
I'm the same way. I have almost no friends now because I had a kid and all that old party lifestyle was completely unappealing. But I'm still a bit too laid back for the khaki moms. I just hang out on my own. Smoke weed sometimes, not much of a drinker. Most of my time is hanging out with my son or coding.
>>23155199
Agreed, so many kids and parents are fucked up - often because of trauma but most people don't get help and even if they do, there is no universal "cure" for PTSD or complex trauma.
>>23155202
Yes, I grew up in an abusive household and I'm not having kids. I don't know what to say. Ya, got me.
>>23155226
>I grew up in an abusive household
and you deserved every last hit. :*
>>23150900
You're like a cross between Ross Geller, Eric Wareheim as Arnold, and Scruffy... the Janitor.
>>23155226
>>23155202
I think all of you are either oversimplifying or complicating something that's a socially ingrained behavior. People talk about kids the same reason "average guy" would talk about baseball in the 80s and 90s; it's an inoffensive topic that, provided you don't sit there going into extreme detail (my son can play all these sonatas and even lifts, bro), is a step above awkwardly discussing the weather.
It's the white noise equivalent of conversation.
>>23155275
Whoops, forgot the picture.
>>23155275
I agree but I also just love talking about him cuz it makes me happy. I'm so proud.
>>23155226
That's a good choice. I'm sorry you had a rough child hood but to say someone doesn't love their child is an easy reaction offensive claim. I'm sorry you had struggles but hurting others doesn't make you any better. It makes you as bad as the people that hurt you. I guarantee they were abused as kids too or in some other way. Does that make how they treated you okay? Be better than them.
>>23155202
I work offshore so im gone 20 days out the month so when i get home i dont like to do things where i cant take her. Shes only 18 months old but she loves the aquarium and zoo.
>>23155400
You know that she's probably being sarcastic, right?
And talking about a kid because you're proud of them just falls under the category of "why you talk about the kid as opposed to any other white noise subject". While things like politics or "what's hap'nin now in the news" might strike a nerve with some people, talking about your kid (assuming it's not "my kid just revealed he's gay! How respond.) relatively few people will complain right to your face.
There are probably a lot of better examples than my previous baseball at the cooler one, especially since.. who the fuck stands around the water cooler anymore? But you get what I'm saying.
I find it interesting how the idea of mostly meaningless small talk is more scrutinized by young people anymore. Chalk it up to internet subculture and a feeling of disconnectedness, I guess.
>>23155432
I'd like to believe she's being sincere and just had a rough time. Hopefully isn't a complete shit.
>>23155403
Wow thats a long job. Fishing, oil rigs?
>>23155446
I'll be honest insofar as finding other people talking about their kids slightly annoying. Not at first, mind you, but after a while it gets old. There are a million topics to discuss, and after hearing what Baby Jeffrey did today for the thousandth time, I'd rather talk about the weather.
I might understand why they're talking about their kids, but it doesn't make it any less dull to listen to. The problem with children as a conversation topic is that only one party has any investment in it, and the invested party's intensity can (at times) make it difficult to move to another neutral topic or disengage from the conversation all together.
I've gone through this with family members, people that HAVE to find an extremely neutral topic in order to avoid causing drama to explode at gatherings.
The overt problem with talking about your kids that cause people like >>23155226 to ask why it's done goes back to the investment thing. The party unrelated to the kid can't really talk since they have nothing whatsoever to do with that kid.
Imagine talking to... say, a blind person about a painting, I guess? Or a non-vidya fan about videogames. Without having any interest in the topic, there's no real conversation, and it just boils down to one party talking at the other rather than with.
>>23155446
Oil rigs. Would love to be home everynighg but the money is just too damn goo to pass up.
>>23155478
My problem isn't that she believes talking about kids is boring because she can't relate. She is claiming:
>Also people talk about their kids because they have nothing else going on in their lives. They hate their familes and kids and they literally have no interests.
You keep coming to her rescue like I'm being mean to her for not wanting to hear about my son but my issue is that she is accusing me of hating him and having no interests because I speak about him. And other than a gut reaction to punch her, I've been pretty nice.
>>23155493
Are you from the kik chat? Or do we have two men on oil rigs in this thread?
>>23155495
Sorry, I wasn't trying to come to her rescue. I was just assuming that statement was meant as either trolling, or as a forced jaded schtick.
>>23155503
I posted on a kik thread a few times before. Might be me.
>>23152719
hey fellow 40-er
>>23149882
Good to see some other very-oldfags
>>23155507
You have to understand what it's like to have a child to kind of understand my reaction. I love my son so much even having someone say I hate him as having that out there makes me furious I don't want him to ever think that's even kind of a possibility. So probably seems a bit dramatic from your point of view. I understand that.
>>23155541
We have a kik group and one of the guys in this thread is also an oil rigger. How is the gas prices dropping affecting your job?
>>23155580
Thats not me then. I never posted in the groups. My job is secure. Were probably one of the only companies in my city that hasn't laid off people yet. We're actually still growing.
>>23155580
Be fair for a second here. While her criticism of why people talk about their kids was idiotic, it was still a broad generalization and not one specifically directed at you.
That's why I said both of you were making a mountain out of a molehill. On her side, it's childless people finding reasons to complain about small talk they don't approve of. On your side, it's people responding poorly when the small talk doesn't receive the appropriate response.
Both sides have valid complaints, but in the end, it boils down to how they handle it in a public forum (as opposed to an online forum, herpderp). Most of us here hold down jobs and can therefore know when to respond with mild frustration to a discussion they dislike, or when to change the topic if it's not receiving the expected response.
>>23155607
Yes exactly. She accused all people that speak about their children. If she said all people that are black hate their children would you consider it offensive then or no because it's about all black people not a specific black person?
I don't appreciate it when people speak on my behalf in regards to my feelings. Especially involving my child. I'm sorry if you can't understand where I'm coming from but that doesn't make my feelings irrelevant.
>>23155629
That's a straw man argument. The topic of being a single mother, while it's often been judged throughout recorded history, isn't quite on par with racism in modern America today.
That said, yes. I'd react the same way. A broad generalization paints the world in the dogmatic view of whoever it comes from. While I might disagree with what they say, it's not my place to change their mind. My only real right is to judge them for their opinions, which anyone who's taken part in this discussion has already done.
But to speak on your behalf, she would have to speak -on your behalf-. It couldn't be a broad generalization if she, or anyone else, were trying to do that. Would you consider it speaking on your behalf if someone made a misogynistic comment about what women like, or does it only matter as the generalization narrows down?
>>23155629
You got man in another thread because a dude said he didn't want to date someone with a kid and wasn't even speaking about you at all. I understand having such a great love for your child but you shouldn't attack or get angry at someone who shares a different perspective.
>>23155652
Doesn't matter what's on par. She singled out a specific group of people and said all of these people hate their children. I am one of those people she singled out. So she is telling others I hate my child if I speak about him. There's nothing okay with that. And I'm not going to argue with you about it anymore than I have. If you want to continue coming to her defense fine but I won't continue arguing.
>>23155656
I don't think that was me. Sorry. I didn't attack anyone for not liking kids. I told that girl that said I hate my son that she was wrong.
>>23155275
Maybe, but people mostly only have the white noise conversations with strangers or people they don't know well.
If you're talking to friends, most likely you're talking about something you actually give a shit about
>>23155678
Yeah it was you lol, one dude did a green text about how dating women his age sucks for him because they are all single mothers and you got pretty defensive and angry about it.
>>23155668
>>23155678
>>23155685
You mean I had a different opinion? Okay?
>>23155685
I know it isnt me because i dont post in kik groups or join them. But go ahead and believe what you want.
>>23155604
I'm glad it's doing well. I know the other guy I spoke with said the industry is hurting. What's it like being away from home for so long?
>>23155704
She was accusing me
>>23155683
I don't necessarily agree with that. White noise conversations are for when you have nothing particularly important to talk about and are markedly uncomfortable with silence.
As for talking about your children, how much you know somebody doesn't affect that. Having a child is a great thing, but it's primarily a great thing to the people/person having the child. After the first few months, it becomes less and less interesting to those that are involved in the parent(s') lives.
Think of it this way. Your friends go on an amazing vacation, and you're really happy for them. They come back and tell you about it, you find it interesting. Then, they begin showing you slides/pictures of the vacation.
After a certain point, the topic of your child becomes pictures/slides of a vacation. Only you would reasonably find those moments, memories, occurrences, what-have-you interesting. The rest of the world has a lot to do, and listening to something that you're so incredibly wrapped up in becomes tedious. Your level of involvement inevitably outweighs the listener, so, again, you're talking at them.
>>23155692
It wasn't a different opinion, you weren't' like
'oh hey anon I don't agree, sorry'
you got visibly angry and agitated that someone didn't want to date a single mother. I Anytime someone brings up anything negative in line with children you always pop into these threads to try and lecture and berate them for it because you are a mom. I get loving your kid and being proud to be a parent but you always take it so personally when someone says something opposite to it, you make it seem like they are saying it directly to you and it somehow will tarnish your being a mom, it makes no sense.
>>23155688
Your ID was so close to being meme
>>23155728
I wasn't angry at all and since you can't see me I'm going to guess visibly was a bit of a reach. I'm not angry now. You're reading too much into arguments on 4chan.
>>23155733
Text can easily do that. Without tone or body language it happens.
>>23155733
Says someone who just got into an argument with someone else over the children comment? I am just pointing out that you are overly sensitive when it comes to the topic of children.
>>23155718
Im thankful for being somewhere where we haven't cut back. Its not bad being away because i can still talk to my family and stuff. Im a coordinator out here so i get paid to pretty much do nothing. I just hate dealing with the idioc people that come oit here thinking they know everything and i have to send their ass back home on a helicopter because im not risking them doing something to blow our asses up.
>>23155742
Just gecause I discussed something online doesn't mean I'm visibly upset. We are on 4chan. I discuss all kinds of things and debate tons of topics often. Welcome to the Internet. You must be new.
See I'm laughing right now. Seriously don't read too much into stuff. We discuss what we know. In a thread for adults discussion of children comes up. I have experience with this subject so I comment on it. It's okay friend.
>>23155748
I would hate firing people. I'm not good at being mean. I am usually only mean when I think I'm being funny but don't actually mean it. Firing people I would cry.
>>23155723
I get what you're saying, and i agree. It's useless to have a one sided coversation where one party has nothing to contribute or isnt interested in the subject matter.
I just dont think talking about your kid, the most important thing in your life and your legacy after youre dead, constitutes a "water cooler" topic like the weather or baseball unless the person is simply talking just to talk, in which case literally anything could be the subject
>>23155762
I'm sorry, but you were engaging in ad hoc and straw man fallacies in order to undermine any point I made before cutting the "discussion" short.
I think that undermines whatever point you're trying to make right now.
>>23155775
Everyone loves screaming straw man when they are obviously wrong :p
>>23155773
That was, more or less, my point. Talking about children is inoffensive enough that it's hard to complain about, and without knowledge of your co-worker's hobbies, it's a safe go-to. The original question, brought up by Depressing Guy, was "why do people talk about their kids all the time."
In my response to him, I judged it as water cooler conversation because of the inherent inoffensiveness of children. Among friends, it's completely different. Generally, people don't have water cooler conversations with their friends because.. well, the concept of water cooler conversation precludes the minor intimate knowledge someone needs to be friends.
My initial point was just that in a workplace scenario, the only reason you might bring up your children to an otherwise stranger is due to the fact you have no idea what they may or may not object to, and it's difficult to object to "babies!"
See what I'm saying?
>>23155769
I dont fire them. I actually cant because i dont work directly for Shell, Bp, Exxon, etc.., but i am a contractor and im pretty well known out here even for how young i am so a lot of the drilling foremen stand behind me when i say this person needs to go home. Now if their company fores them thats on them. But when ots a matter of life and death you do what has to be done. Stuff goes wrong quick out here.
Im usually not mean about it. When i was 19 and 20 i was though. I was a lot more hot headed but you cant be like that in a leadership position. I try to be nice now lol.
>>23155780
Comparing racism/racial stereotypes to broad generalizations towards parents talking about their kids? That's a strawman argument. That is literally a strawman argument.
>>23155795
Yeah, I see what you mean, and I agree totally. I was under the impression you were saying that the only reason people ever talk about their kids is because it's an inoffensive topic.
>>23155810
Oh, not at all. Just like anything else, there are a thousand and one caveats to what I said on the subject; and, obviously, it's all based on my own observations and opinions.
>>23155802
Yeah I can only imagine with life or death stuff. Is it tough on your wife/gf having you gone? I guess if you're in a postion of power at your age that can be a bit tough but pretty impressive!
>>23155805
Strawman
>>23155825
You really need to look up what the strawman fallacy is.
>>23155831
I know exactly what it is haha straw man and ad hoc is an old meme.
>>23155822
yeah, basically i was disagreeing with this:
>only reason you might bring up your children to an otherwise stranger is due to the fact you have no idea what they may or may not object to, and it's difficult to object to "babies!"
That isn't the only reason. Another reason could be that you care about and think about your kid a lot. Same reason someone would bring anything up in conversation with a stranger: hobbies, experiences, etc. : because the speaker finds it a legitimately interesting topic to discuss.
See what I mean?
>>23155849
They've also been actual terms in debate/legal argument for decades. And, actually, that was a typo. I meant ad hominem.
>>23155825
Im actually single but were still close. No ill feelings i guess. I stil get to skype with them so it isnt as hard on her but when my daughter sees my bags she knows i wont be home the next day. It's scary as hell but facts prove youre more lilely to die in a car than out here.
Yea. The guy that trained me when i forst started at 18 said that i caught on really quick and just took what he taught me and excelled at it quick. I was a foreman right before i turned 20 and i became a coordinator at 21. He told me i wouldve been a coordinator before 21 but theres an age restriction on the position because i get to handle explosives.
>>23155861
That's awesome! The quick learning, not the single and leaving. I'm sorry things didn't work out but you seem to be doing really well and handling work/personal life responsibly. Pretty grown up for 22.
>>23155856
Yeah my phone auto corrected. Have a meme.
>>23155851
And my counterpoint to that is the subject of your children is inherently limiting, which the speaker would know. The person you're talking to can't really do anything in the conversation, shallow as it's going to be, other than ask some really superficial questions.
While things like baseball, hobbies, or experiences carry the same risk (speaker being the only one with any subject matter to speak of), their children are something that, as humans, we can largely identify with and have trouble complaining about. Any other subject carries the risk of either offending people (news, politics) or being dismissed (hobbies they don't like/understand, sports they dislike/teams you like/they hate). Children, meanwhile, are always a safe bet.
I didn't mean to imply that was the only reason, just that for someone without a child, it's the one they might be able to relate to most.
>>23155856
I meant to post this one!
>>23155876
Turns out I have a straw man one too!
>>23155876
I like those. They are good.
>>23155875
Yes, however I think you're overestimating peoples' self-awareness in general. There are many many people who talk about whatever they want, completely oblivious to the fact that their listener has 0 reason to give a shit or relate in any way. Ideally everyone would be conscious of how they're being received all the time, but unfortunately that's often not the case - at least in my experience
