When you meet up with men, how cautious are you? How many times have they tried to take advantage of you? And why do you meet up with men?
Not that I disagree with that FB post, but women get just as upset when you turn down their offer to buy them a drink. What a privilege.
Thats why u dating site
>How cautious
I like to chat virtually for at least a week before I consider meeting up. If I get any red flags or bad vibes in our talk, though minor, I usually request a skype call or some other sort of timestamp picture to ensure they are who they say they are.
Always meet for the first (and a lot of times 2nd) time in a very public place mid day.
This bitch in this picture seems to have drank the feminist kool aid. Nobody wants women to be afraid of ever stepping out of their house like feminists. Be smart, but don't live your life in a hole goddamn.
Also doubt any of those things actually happened to her. I suspect it actually went something like this
"Aye wanna drink?"
"Buy me food instead"
"Well we're at a bar and the kitchens are closed, I don't really want to have to leave and go somewhere else"
"God why did you respond so angry you rapist cishetwhite scum go die"
>How many times have they tried to take advantage of you?
Never. Granted I've only met like 3 people before. I usually do not give them the opportunity to, with the steps I've listed above. I generally find the type of people to do this will lose interest quickly if I make them jump through too many hoops.
>Why
Literally that seems to be the only way people meet anymore. Online dating is about all there is in this day and age where everyone's spooked of their own shadow and any stranger who approaches you IRL should be ignored and feared. Gotta take the baby step of virtual meeting where it's easy to ditch them if they set off any alarms first.
I'm also autistic as fuck when it comes to icebreaking, which I find with enough online interaction helps.
>>24058620
I always try to talk to the guy for a few days before I meet up with him. I figure a lot of creeps wouldn't have the patience to wait that long if they are just after one thing. Even if I'm after that same thing, I still try to get to know them; first name, where they are from, etc. When I go to meet them, I give this information along with username and whatnot to my sister or a close friend. I figure if I disappear, this info is better than nothing.
I always meet them in public at day time. There was one time that I met a guy at his place (actually drove 3 hours). I justified it by telling myself I knew his full name, had him added on fb, knew his address and place of employment, etc. I told my sister to text me at a specific time and if I didn't respond within the hour, to call the police.
He didn't murder me and the sex was good.
>>24058638
>>24058661
Oh forgot to add, I do this too. I have at least one if not 2 friends on stand by who know where I should be and who I'm with. I usually just tell them if I don't text or call them by the end of the day to tell them I got home safely that they should assume I'm dead.
Even if all the info they gave me on them is fake, like you said it's something. You can at least track back to something. A lot of times if I'm suspicious I facebook creep a bit to verify.
I have some friends who take a step further and on the first meeting just ask to bring a friend, safety in numbers and what not, or just have a friend stalk them in secret like a guardian angel lol. I tend to find this a bit too paranoid, but then again I also tend not to value my life as much as others lol.
You and I seem to agree that in general most weirdos aren't going to put too much effort into verifying their identity/back story. Make them work too hard and they'll move on to someone else in hopes of getting an easier catch.
That's why I don't buy into the super paranoia of "Everyone on the internet is a pedo rapist". Pedo rapists don't wanna work that hard, the only ones who would work that hard are more likely to be someone you already know with a vendetta.
All in all, the only thing I would say at the very least for safe online meeting is purely tell someone where you are and who you think you're with and don't meet in sketchy places. I find if you have 2 braincells to rub together 99% of the time you'll be fine.
>>24058638
what is wrong with you? her post seems perfectly reasonable.
>i suspect it actually went something like this
you're projecting hard as fuck
>>24058620
>Offer drink, something to quench thirst
>request food instead
How about you ask for a non-alcoholic beverage bitch?
I don't understand how she makes that suggestion then uses as example food in each one. That is a different situation, I'd gladly buy a pop or juice or virgin drink for a woman instead of an alcoholic one on the basis of drink and conversation etc.
Food?
That's a principle thing and is rude, it's not the cost it's the social context behind food. I offered to quench your thirst and hoped for conversation, not to feed your lazy ass
That is the principle behind it.
Besides, I never met women at bars, they're usually trashy whores and don't grab my interest.
If you're at a bar you're either there with friends and don't plan on hooking up with anyone, or you're plan from the get go is to go fuck.
>>24061250
Also it's not rude to request food if food is offered, and it's also not rude to say "no thank you" and it's also even less rude to say "no thanks, but would you like to chat instead?"
Skipping the ice breaker ritual completion process after the initial conversation is started is not rude. In fact it's likely better to genuine people as it helps to relieve a mental weight they may have and lightens the mood. It also shows that you're actually interested.
>Women hardly ever put out when sober. One night stands, anyway.
>Surprised we buy them alcohol.
Maybe this is just me being a bloke and thinking like a bloke, but fucking hell, what does she expect?
>>24061328
your disapproval is noted captain date rape.
>>24061337
Did I at once state at any point I condone said behaviour? No, I did not, you gobshite.
As a matter of fact, I'm a teatotaller and avoid buying women drinks on the basis of your poxy assertion.
*However*, I do not believe this is grounds for me to ignore a woman's discovery of the obvious.
>>24061357
how it came off in your tone, yes, it seemed you tacitly approved of getting someone intoxicated so that they will have sex where they would not otherwise. A despicable practice. If you truly do not, then I apologize for the accusation (though I resent the shit slinging). and nah I am aware it happens to some (many? humans are stupid). probably why i dont do bars, and why i am sometimes happy to be a dyke.
Figure the thread is small enough, so I should actually contribute.
I'd say i'm usually pretty cautious. When I am meeting with a guy (the ones I meet online), I usually don't do it until i've known them for a fair while (usually a couple weeks to a month at minimum, though i'm not going to be truly comfy until we've talked a couple months online). I always make sure they know i'm a card carrying lesbian and that i'm interested only in platonic fun (usually a gaming partner, though shared interest in shows is okay, as long as they really just want to share interesting shows). Never meet at their house for a first time; leave where i'm meeting and who i'm meeting with a friend.
If "tried to take advantage of" translates to "incessantly tries to get up my skirt", two guys; one accepted that I wasn't interested, the other insisted that I was attracted to him and wouldn't stop trying. He never tried to assault me, but it strained our relationship to the point where we are no longer friends.
I meet up with men because I miss when I had friends that were guys; my guy friends were much better at hanging out with me (girls seem to want to be pursued; I too want to be pursued, so this leads to a friendship where both of us is waiting for the other to suggest something) and since my friendships with girls tended to go up in flames (the risk of intimacy is a fire hazard). Perhaps this is coincidental, but my guy friends were just more... fun >.> like, we would go out to camping/shows and do psychadelics, or marathon watch movies and shows/play vidya, or look up crazy stuffs on the internet, or they'd introduce me to other people (good for me because social issues).
Unfortunately, I lost all of my guy friends, and i'm giving up on meeting new ones because just about all of them don't pass the "trying to fuck me" or "shit spewing asshat" filters. Or we just don't click.
TL;DR: Pretty cautious. Only a few rapey spots. Terrible loneliness.
>>24061357
>gobshite
oh lord, this one's british, nice.
Femanon here. I freaking love 4chan. It just seems like whatever board I go onto, there's always some thread with some loserish guys trying to figure out why women won't talk to them, or why they're offended by men, or how they can fuck more girls, what to say, what to do.
Buy her a drink or no? Take her out to dinner?
I just love sitting here, thinking to myself: What are the majority of these men thinking, what goes on in their heads? Are they really that desperate for pussy? Do they REALLY try THIS HARD? HAHAHAHHAHAHA....
Women are low hanging fruit.. After all. I don't even consider myself that pretty, don't even really think my body is that great yet I had so much dick coming at me not long ago I didn't know what to do, and I wasn't even really trying..
Is it seriously this hard for men though? I have to know, I'm just a woman after all. I KNOW for sure I can go into a bar and end up having sex with someone, that's easy as fuck... but I really do wonder what it's like for a guy.
>>24061565
For a guy its a real pain. Either you're going to find someone or you won't. If you're a nice guy you might meet a person in real life but unless you're a complete 10/10 guy in a bar you probably won't have a chance except with the "lowest hanging fruit" of them all.
Also our thirst is real because of two things:
We either want lots of sex in our 20s-30s (Walking aids quilt I'm looking at you) or we want a stable girlfriend.
When you want a stable girlfriend you want someone who has similar interests and typically you don't find that and it comes off as desperate.
When you want to sleep around it comes off as desperate.
So the best way to meet someone is not to try to meet someone as a guy. Odd but true.
>>24061565
>is it seriously this hard for men?
As it looks to me, yes. Female sexual capital is comparitively extremely high, while male sexual capital is super low. To the point that ugly crack whores still make money selling themselves because men desire sexual graitification that much. To paraphase Dave Chapelle (best reference ever) men are flooding the market with dick, and it is causing it's value to drop faster than me when my girlfriend tells me to put my face between her legs (pretty quickly). Thus, only the men with the most valued (read:not necessarily valuable, but most valued) traits are able to land casual sex as easily as women can. women have so much dick to choose from and seem to be more choosy in who they bang, so women who are not conventionally attractive can manage land guys several tiers above their league just by openly pursuing them for sex, demonstrating a high value for cunts through supply restriction in the face of overwhelming demand.
Mind you, i'm only talking about the genetic turkey basting here. cant speak for who marries who.
>>24061596
Thank you for all your answers, really. But that again gives me more questions since I will never, ever know what being a man is like, or what having a penis is like, or the same sex drive etc. Like is it really that bad if you, as a guy, try your best, suit up, go to a bar, buy some drinks for a girl but don't get laid? Like surely it isn't the end of the world?
And in the end, if you end up like NEVER getting laid and get very desperate.. What do you do then, what do you do as a guy? Is this why a lot of men rape women? They just can't resist anymore? Have you ever raped someone or even just thought of it? I'm seriously just wondering here, sorry if I ask too much or if it seems like I focus on the negative. I'm just wondering.
Have you ever seen a woman so desirable, so beautiful, so pretty you wanted to rape her? Maybe you thought she looked snobby and you wanted to take her anyways?
I'm just wondering, man. As a heterosexual woman, I try to use every opportunity I have to learn more about the psychology of men.
>>24061613
have you ever gotten your best looking, spent an hour on your makeup, wore your cutest outfit, did your hair the best it is going to look, and gone out to a place (maybe even a date) where you were hoping to get attention from a guy, and not even got a second look? Not a compliment, not a long stare, not even an ugly cat call. Getting ignored by every man in the room. Talking to people and having them blatantly try to get you to stop talking to them (indirectly, through one liners and by talking to someone else, or directly telling you to leave). Now, what if that happened every time you went out. If you spent months in this cycle (or help you, years). If you tried doing your hair different, going to different places, going online, and they all failed to get you any more than a few shallow conversations. That's what being an unimpressive guy is like. Putting yourself out there and going completely unnoticed.
>>24061328
I'm sorry women need to be drunk to sleep with you.
>>24061656
As sad as that sounds, I can imagine myself enjoying that a lot. But this is coming from a person who is probably worryingly addicted to loneliness. I will often read my bible in public in hopes of people NOT talking to me.
I guess it will just be too hard to understand for me. I would spend probably 2,3 to even 3 hours on the makeup and I'm laid back with hair, but I'm trying to imagine NO ONE giving me that attention that night. Like you said, no one even catcalling me. Yes, I imagine this would make me feel sad, a bit bummed out, BUT, not the end of the world.
And also, although we are low hanging fruit, we also experience somewhat of the same pain. If I was ever with another girl and she was shorter than me and also had bigger breasts, the guys (wherever we were) would always talk to her.. She was always more interesting or fun, it seemed so because they'd give her all the attention.
Still I won't be able to say I really know what it's like in that post, my friend. That rarely happens to me, desu.
But honestly, in the end, I don't want to be like the person you described in your post. COMPLETELY lonely and not when I want it, and completely ignored it sounds like, dead to the world. I personally would just like to have male friends that are okay with being male friends.. I've always thought it must be cool to be "one of the guys" since they always talked about cooler stuff in class than girls.. Can't I be one of the guys too, anon? I don't want to or desire to be catcalled either, and late at night, and especially if you're alone, it gets really intimidating. But yeah, I'd like to be one of da gaise. Let's all go to a strip club and insult hookers, yay. I call them useless cumbuckets, whores, harlots and sluts and then I put dollar bills down their thongs, yay! Equality, yay!
I'm really just rambling on tonight, sorry.
>>24061613
I'd never want to rape someone. I imagine it would be something like shoving knives in someones ass. I don't like the idea of hurting anyone.
That being said I lust after people sometimes. Like masterbate to them even knowing I'll never have a chance with them. Thats just normal I think.
As a guy you get depressed sometimes. However I find it helps when you focus on everything else like games, money and having fun.
I can't speak from a "buff alpha male" persepective. I've been popular with the ladies in my highschool years and college years, in my early 30s it's winding down a bit. I'm a pretty average guy.
As far as rape goes I think it has to do more with machismo mindsets than anything else. I don't have one of those. I've just a average coworker/college guy/friend type go person who ends up with a girl that way.
I can answer whatever questions you want really. Also I've found that some women have higher sex drives than me. My last ex wanted to masturbate on camera to me every day when I wasn't with her.
>>24061553
daww, this makes me sad femanon
>>24061656
I don't understand why anyone goes to bars to pick girls up (this is as a guy). I mean yeah I tried it when i was like 18 but it was just boring after a month. these days I just go out to a bar or a pub for the purpose of socialising with my friends, if I meet someone that is interesting, attractive and attracted to me while I'm with them then cool, but its not the sole determinant of how well my night has gone.
>>24061682
nothing is stopping you femanon.
>>24061565
Out of curiosity, do you post this kind of stuff frequently? Because I've been seeing the phrase "low hanging fruit" used in relation to women frequently on /soc/ lately.
But anyway.
>loserish guys trying to figure out why women won't talk to them
>guy knows there's maybe a problem
>guy tries to improve himself
>"OH HAHA WHAT A LOSER AMIRIGHT?"
Femanon, I shouldn't be surprised because this is 4chan after all, but you seem like a genuine cunt. It's the equivalent of laughing at fat people in a gym.
But speaking of wondering what's going on in someone's head, I'm curious about yours.
I mean, your tone and choice of words implies you think you're better than the people you're laughing at, and you're reference to easy success seems to be another way you put yourself above them (understandable as the topic is "trying to get laid").
You realise that it's as simple as the fact that you have a vagina, and men want that vagina, only caring what you look like/act like in the vaguest sense, right?
I mean, you're right, it's not that hard for you to get laid. I guess I'm just wondering why you feel that the lack of standards and desperation that you laugh at men for having is somehow a compliment to you, or implies that you're better?
>>24058638
>be me
>socially akward male
>offer to buy her a drink "STOP TRYING TO GET ME DRUNK RAPIST!!!"
>offer to buy her food "wow so you think im fat???!?!?!?"
i wish people would offer to buy me free shit/have sex with me
>>24061682
ur like typical girl. in my experience women tend to , in general, greatly underestimate the following:
1. how sexual men are and how much of a factor sex drive is in anything they do
2. how attractive women are to men
3. how much men want to have sex with women
4. how much of male-female interaction is based on sex, no matter how innocuous or innocent it may seem
women are also typically overly critical of their body and general value as a sexual being. conversely most men would absolutely want them and are probably trying to have sex with them.
ur looking for attention but its just a guy waving his dick in ur face except that doesnt work so over time they developed better tactics. you fall for it like every other girl. its nothing but solicitation and typical sales tactics.
>>24061748
walk along to a gay bar then, you'll never have to pay for a drink.
>>24061765
>ur looking for attention but its just a guy
Nah, buddy. And you typing "ur" and then describing some guy's dick in my face.. ok.. you just made it super gross to me. I'm not interested in some random guy waving his dick in my face, okay? Got that? There are MANY things about men I don't understand, so yes, I misunderstood many of those things. The things you answered me gave me some clarity, but then you turned into a moron jerk, saying I'm just looking for attention, no I mean "ur just looking for attention". Eat me, you retard faggot. Read my posts again. I kept saying over and over how I don't understand, how I want to know and that's why I was asking anon those questions, not you, mongoloid.
I was genuinely interested and still am, in what being a man in this aspect of life is, fuck you. There's no reason to tell me "ur just looking for attention" you illiterate fuck.
Like I said though, you did give me a bit of clarity there, too bad your asshole attitude towards women shines through. Bitch.
>>24061772
thats a funny joke m8.....
i would love to eat you. was that supposed to be an insult. anyway i have no interest in putting u down, sorry if it seemed like that. i didnt mean u go out looking for attention but rather that you like it (like most girls) but dont understand that in reality the difference between a guy whipping his dick out to u and a guy who takes a more refined approach is simply better tactics. its the same guy with the same intention
>>24061782
BUUURRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNN.
You're just gonna take that? Like a 'lil bitch?
>>24061781
In an attempt to satisfy your curiosity, I'll contribute to answers as well.
>>24061613
>don't get laid/end of the world?
Depends on an individual's attitude towards sex.
If they connect it to masculinity/ego/pride etc., it's probably devastating in various degrees.
If they're just super horny, they'll probably just be disappointed because they didn't get something they really wanted.
For myself, I wouldn't care, because I've had enough sex that I can say "it's just sex", and move on.
>does desperation cause rape
Again, pretty nuanced. What method is being used? If they're physically forcing a woman, it's likely more to do with violence and domination. Drugging someone may be desperation, but probably has more to do with control as well as sex. Sleeping with a super drunk girl may be desperation. It's really hard to say for sure.
>can't resist
Anyone person who says that their sex drive is impossible to resist is a rapist rationalising their lack of self-control or conscience.
>ever raped/thought of raping
Never raped someone, have thought about it out of morbid curiosity. Kind of in the way you imagine fucking a really ugly person, and it makes you feel ill.
>ever seen a woman so attractive you just wanna rape?
Nope. I've seen women I've really desired, but never to rape. Most of my associations with sex involve positive consent and mutual desire. In my mind, rape doesn't even seem like sex desu.
>>24061565
>hard for men?
Depends on the guy. Obviously, objective attractiveness helps.
It's more to do with your own confidence, and the ease with which you can shrug off the inevitable rejections.
You're a woman. You know it's just fact that women get as horny as men, and want someone to have sex with. For guys, it's a matter of finding a woman who wants sex, and wants it with you.
>>24061819
Hey, I didn't see your first post there. Thank you for the answers in this one.
>>24061715
>>24061715
You totally misunderstood and also added shit that makes no sense, lmao (yes, again, I'm laughing,
this is the internet, we are strangers, I don't have to not laugh or act like I'm not laughing around you).
If you think I was laughing at them, in the sense that "hahah, they can't get laid" YOU ARE DEAD WRONG.
Go back to my post.. Go back and see the point I was trying to make.
I'll go back for you and show you what words I chose and what I kept repeating over and over:
> just love sitting here, thinking to myself: What are the majority of these men thinking, what goes
on in their heads? Are they really that desperate for pussy? Do they REALLY try THIS HARD? HAHAHAHHAHAHA....
Notice that BEFORE I go "HAHA" I'm saying how I love sitting there, thinking to myself, THINKING...
Thinking "what are the majority of these men thinking, what goes on in their heads?". It was clear as
day that this was my main point, my INTEREST is what stands out here, buddy.
>Women are low hanging fruit.. After all. I don't even consider myself that pretty, don't even really think
my body is that great yet I had so much dick coming at me not long ago I didn't know what to do, and I wasn't
even really trying..
See how I'm even trying to rationalise to understand why I am treated the way I am? I GET IT, I AM A WOMAN.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING ALL ALONG, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS TO BE LIKE A MAN, SO I MUST ASK YOU, A MAN,
OR SO YOU CLAIM TO BE. Again, this is the internet. You could be a grill for all I know..
>>24061991
Aaaand the post was too long and I dun goofd. But you can still see my point, and I have this to add:
>You realise that it's as simple as the fact that you have a vagina, and men want that vagina, only caring what
you look like/act like in the vaguest sense, right?
That's what YOU think men want, don't generalise men like that. Say "most", or "the majority", don't
put something as vague as just "men want that vagina HUEHUEHUE" bullshit in there. I know men, just like
women, aren't shallow and believe it or not... THEY WANT MORE THAN JUST VAGINA.
>that you laugh at men for having is somehow a compliment to you, or implies that you're better?
What the fuck? Are you on crack? I was laughing... BECAUSE I'M A FUCKING WOMAN. I WAS IMAGINING MYSELF, IN A BAR,
DESPERATELY TRYING TO PICK UP A GIRL. Seriously... JEEZ. Have you ever heard of something considered so female,
so feminine and then imagined yourself doing this and laughed? (if I assume you are not into being feminine).
What I'm saying is, that's what I was doing, and that's why I was laughing too, I just don't understand
boys/men! I don't understand them well enough, SERIOUSLY. Women like me exist, believe it or not...
>>24061715
I have 0 brothers, 4 sisters, and plus I never had a boy in my room or any shit like that and I still live at home,
maybe YOU have spent a lot of time with boys/men, I haven't! So please... Understand that I am VERY CURIOUS
and I just wanted to ask questions. Fucking hell. Asking if I think I'm better than you? Nah, man. In the end,
the MAJORITY of the guys I would find in a bar would not be interested in how good of a person I am, or
how sweet I am to animals, or how I can be really sensitive, or how I can cite the bible and have a sharp mind,
or how I can pick apart and analyze a short story by Poe, these are all excellent qualities I love about myself...
The guy at whatever bar that might be would have a 80% chance of banging me that night if he quoted me a beautiful
poem by an author I loved. Just saying, I DO NOT THINK I AM BETTER THAN YOU. And besides, don't forget that
being called "low hanging fruit" isn't a compliment, it isn't a cute thing, it isn't fun, and I don't want to be
referred to as low hanging fruit at all, but again, this is 4chan.. so... by their standards I'm just another puny woman,
I'm "low hanging fruit". And instead of going ahead and just saying I seem like a genuine cunt you could have just
gone ahead and asked why I put "haha" there or why this, why that.
You "seem" [insert harsh, absurd noun here]. Don't tell me I think I'm better than someone else because of my inexperience at being a man, I simply asked questions, and it may have looked rude, but I assure you it was my humour and lack of knowledge of what being a man is like.
In the end, we have to work to understand each other. I want the best of both worlds, I want to know more about men too, you know... I'll need that knowledge for when I'm on the lookout for a husband some day.
>>24062018
I have a question for you this time: what do women expect when they go out to a bar? Do they ever go anywhere to meet guys or are they going for the sake of going?
Where do women meet men is my question I guess.
>>24062029
I'm sorry to say this, but I don't feel I have the knowledge to answer this. Myself I very rarely go to bars.
However I will say this, be confident. No matter what. NO MATTER WHAT. Women find confidence so sexy..
I swear, they do. I myself find that, no matter what a guy looks like, if he has a defeatist attitude,
seems confused, seems like he's super insecure etc etc.. I just know I will not find him attractive.
And someone here already said something very important you NEED to REMEMBER, anon!! Women get really horny too.
They get as horny as men.
Some women are way hornier than men. Sometimes I'm so horny I'm angry. No fucking
joke here.
Yeah, I know it's hard for men nowadays, or at least I think so, since women are always said to be
low hanging fruit and here on /soc/, and /r9k/ and /pol/ and so on.. men always seem to complain about
these women and not getting laid. Anon, every woman is different. If you were trying to bang me, trying
to make me want to bang you in that bar, you would do well to listen to me as much as possible. You would
also be clever to take mental notes of what I like talking about. Some women get turned on by just being
mentally stimulated by a man they like and feel comfortable, you know.. And I can only say that personally, that
is a huge part of me. And I see many, many other women say the same, anon, they just word it differently!
"I'm not gonna fuck him, he doesn't want to stimulate me mentally but he wants to stimulate me sexually" I swear, this is what many women will think IF you don't seem interested in her, if you interrupt her, if you change the topic when she's not in the mood for it. You have to get to know her, what she likes. That's all
I can say, anon. Do your best, you deserve sex/love too, just like anyone else.
>>24061613
>Like is it really that bad if you, as a guy, try your best, suit up, go to a bar, buy some drinks for a girl but don't get laid? Like surely it isn't the end of the world?
Oh, sure, once isn't bad. But consider that a man who wants to get laid will do this rinse and repeat every weekend. Not only do we expend our resources for pussy, but also for time and effort, and for the most part, when we do *finally* get what we want, it pales in comparison to the efforts expended in order to get there. Not every man is an adonis, and as such, not every man will get his pick of the litter as it were. And then we have to compete with every other man in the same position.
>And in the end, if you end up like NEVER getting laid and get very desperate.. What do you do then, what do you do as a guy?
Invest my time and energy into rewarding pursuits that don't answer back.
>Is this why a lot of men rape women?
The vast majority of men who are buying women drinks in the scenario in the OP, are the kind of men who are offering a sensible number of drinks to lower inhibitions. Same principle as "dutch courage". Very few men I imagine are honestly going to ply you with alcohol to the point where you can't see straight and you're about to pass out, though I imagine they're out there.
They just can't resist anymore? Have you ever raped someone or even just thought of it?
Isn't everyone supposed to have a rape fantasy, or something to that effect?
>Have you ever seen a woman so desirable, so beautiful, so pretty you wanted to rape her?
This implies that such beauty is worth prison. A grandiose overstatement of said worth.
>Maybe you thought she looked snobby and you wanted to take her anyways?
Again, grandiose overstatements.
>I'm just wondering, man. As a heterosexual woman, I try to use every opportunity I have to learn more about the psychology of men.
By and large, females tend to overcomplicate males. Apply Occam's razor and you won't go far wrong.
