To any girls here. would you date a guy if he ccrossdress and if so what would you do with him. ps im lonely
CD here, joining for interest.
>>23886892
yes and id crossdress with them
we can switch clothes and shop for their size
Depends on what kind of crossdressing we're talking about. I wouldn't date one of those 'sissy frilly cuck' crossdressers - you know, the kind who like a strong degradation streak in their dress-up. It feels like a caricature, creepy and misogynistic in some weird way that I can't quite pin down.
A guy who feels like a real person, who just likes chick clothes? Yeah, sure, I'm down for that. I can dress him up and do his makeup, buy him panties, whatever. I like my boys pretty anyways. :)
And then at the extreme, I would shoot myself in the fucking head before I got desperate enough to date someone like Stefonknee.
>>23888971
Really wish there were more girls like you. Best thing I've read all day.
>>23888971
>misogynistic in a weird way that I can't quite pin down
Is this girlspeak for "I know there's an excuse to be offended hidden here somewhere, I just have to find it"?
[spoiler] for real though, I think what you're talking about are the ultra gaylord dragqueens, who behave they're parodies of themselves and women [/spoiler]
>>23889447
From girls I've talked to about it, it's the sissy/submissive fetish that they feel is misogynistic. Not that the people who're doing it hate women, but they think that it's painting femininity to be something that's submissive in nature and should be dominated.
From these replies I'm seeing, a guy like me, who is 100% hetero and not generally a CD or a sissy, who likes fucking girls while wearing their underwear, is ideal.
>>23889460
It is somewhat submissive in nature though. I think the problem would be more with the way these new age sjw semi trannies push for being called women, even though they're completely unpassable, and behave like obnoxious faggots. If I was a woman I'd probably at least get pretty sad over this, because they're basically saying "hey look at me I'm a woman, because all it takes to be a woman is smearing some make up on my face, and talking like a castrated monkey". It's pretty much trying to lower your value as a person, by saying that's all there is to womanhood
If it's just normal crossdressing yeah sure it'd be fun. I did it with an ex a few times, though his fat ass stretched my maid dress
I couldn't do any of that sissy pink frilly stuff though, it just makes me cringe when I see it
>>23889447
>Is this girlspeak for "I know there's an excuse to be offended hidden here somewhere, I just have to find it"?
Not quite "I just have to find it" so much as "It's fucked-up complicated and I can't quite figure out how to express it".
>>23889460
>>23889477
There are a lot of other things that twinge me about the sissy crowd, but it's not really the "submissive" part (I switch and lean sub myself - I understand the urge). I think it's the "degradation/humiliation" part that seems to go with it so much, like there's something shameful about being feminine.
I'm cool with "I feel better/prettier/more-like-myself in girl clothes," not so much with the strong note of "I suck as a man, so put me in a dress". No, dude, you suck as a person, and putting you in a dress isn't going to change that.
>>23889477
>I think the problem would be more with the way these new age sjw semi trannies push for being called women, even though they're completely unpassable, and behave like obnoxious faggots.
I think you might have something here, though I can't quite pin it down. ;) I have two transgirl friends who are totally cool people and I'm pretty happy thinking of them as women, because they "feel" like women to me, even if one of them passes pretty badly sometimes. I've met other transgirls through them, though,and yeah, it's kind of like what you just said. There's some kind of weird proving-a-point/fetishistic/something undercurrent there that just sets my teeth on edge.
Are there any other guys who just like wearing girl clothes and everything that goes with it, but also dress like a guy?
For me I just have half of my wardrobe girl clothes and half with regular guy clothes. Guy clothes mainly for in classes/work and then girl clothes for with friends and at home and stuff. Pretty much along the lines of
>I feel better/prettier/more-like-myself in girl clothes
Still trying to learn makeup though, it's a pain at first but it helps when I can manage to do it.
As a bisexual female, i find feminine traits in males very attractive.
Cross dressing and dressing up in general is a lot of fun. Id love to have a cute lover to dress up.
>>23891265
Turning the question around a little bit, if you found the right girl who was cool with your crossdressing, what would you want her to do with you? Is it just dress-up, or do you want to 'play lesbians' a little?
>>23891836
Really what I would want is just for them to be okay with crossdresing. Other than that I'm fine with it being a normal relationship.
Outside of this it would be nice to 'play lesbians' or the like, but just depends on what the girl's comfortable with I guess. It would be great in all honestly to do that sort of thing and have dress up sessions or go out together as a lesbian couple. Again though, it pretty much hinges on what the girl is comfortable with, and I wouldn't want to do anything that she personally considered too weird.
Never really thought about it I guess, :\ thanks for something to think about.
Yes and I would do his makeup if he did mine. We could shop together and borrow clothes and the like.
Then at the end of the day I'd be able to get some dick.
>>23889601
I personally like girly guys. I'd love to date one.
in my tumblr days there was maybe 8% of people who followed me that were female.
2% were couples.
90% were guys.
but the girls always really interested me. hard to figure out.
this is a good thread.
>>23891981
Haha, you sound amazing.
>>23891989
In all honesty, I'm still 'in the closet' with crossdressing with most of my friends. Those who knew me wouldn't even think I was so feminine. Only reason I haven't come completely out with it is family and stuff.
>>23889460
This.
The whole "sissy"/"forced fem" thing CAN be sort of hot, but only within a very narrow channel surrounded by leagues of creepy homophobic, miso and often racist bullshit. It's equating women/feminity with sexual objectification and the whole "I'm a real woman now that I'm a self-loathing degraded sex slave" thing that's bs. I can't get off on that at all.
It doesn't help that the porn, and the messages those guys send, tend to make them sound like total morons too.
>>23889552
I am pretty queer, and live with a trans woman, and we actually met on a trans site, and liked each other immediately precisely because unlike 95% of other people we met on there, neither of us was just indulging in a fetish but making it out to be more than just that.
Don't get me wrong, we've all got fetish shit going on, it's fine, but when it comes to gender-related fetish stuff a LOT of people are total dicks about it.
>>23892024
I think... you don't have to be 'out', but if you want a girl who will enjoy this part of you, you should leave her a few hints beforehand, you know? Like... if you tell her, or she finds your girl clothes in the closet, or you're wearing panties when a date goes just right, you want her to give you a little smile and "I thought maybe so...", not "Well, OK, I guess," or "Ew, go away," right?
So you have to leave some hints for her to follow, and "screen out" other girls before you get to that stage. You have to present a few things that are just a little feminine to someone who's looking for that sort of thing, but fly just under the conscious radar of everyone else.
For example, a little perfume is a nice, subtly feminine touch - nothing too obviously floral. For a girl who wants a regular manly-man, it's going to be a subtle turn-off, because you don't smell the way her brain tells her a man 'should' smell. For a girl who likes the idea, it's going to start some (small!) wheels turning in her head, like... am I smelling this right? Maybe he's...?
>>23892109
That's pretty awesome that you found someone like that.
>>23892127
Oh, thanks, but we're not humpin', just sharing a flat. Neither of us would rule it out but there's no attraction there so it's not a thing.
There's also a gay girl living in the other room. It'd be a pretty hip house if the latter wasn't kind of a dick.
>>23892024
contact?
>>23892125
This really helps a lot. I see what you're saying. I hope to try to ease it in slightly to see how reactions went as far as me as a guy doing feminine things. Most of the time it's something I try to do before asking a girl out though, and so far the only ones who've been pretty cool with it are my closest friends [and the main source of all my borrowed clothes and help with makeup, so it works out xD].
As far as finding a girlfriend who would be okay with it, I'm def gonna try out what you suggested. Being that most of my friends are girls, it's good to be able to get close to someone enough to get a good read on them.
Is there anything you think would be helpful to tell a girl when just 'coming out' to her with dressing and everything? Along the lines of explaining that it's not a fetish really, it's just what I like wearing.
>>23892143
Oh don't get me wrong, I understand what you meant. I meant friend-wise.
>>23892152
Sure if you want :3 My kik is Blackspider14
>>23892125
Personally I'd say start with clothes. I've known straight guys not into cross dressing who wore women's jeans just because they fit better, for example, and you can find some tops that are 'for women' but look fine on a guy too.
I'd generally advise against basing any progress in a relationship on dropping vague hints or leaving clues lying around. It's a bad precedent to set for how communication will be handled in future. Even blurting things out over a meal out of nowhere is better than both of you constantly trying to second-guess each other's behaviour and seeing hints where there aren't any, or misinterpreting ones that are dropped.
>I've known straight guys not into cross dressing who wore women's jeans just because they fit better, for example, and you can find some tops that are 'for women' but look fine on a guy too.
Literally how I even got into crossdressing.
>>23892161
>I'd generally advise against basing any progress in a relationship on dropping vague hints or leaving clues lying around.
Oh! Yeah, definitely, once you're in the 'relationship' stage you definitely want to be open and get some better communication going. Before that, though, in the first-couple-dates, trying-each-other-out stage, though, subtle hints are going to help steer your way through the dating pool a little bit and avoid some awkwardness. It's about truth in advertising, right? If, say, country music and line dancing are big parts of your life, you're a lot more likely to get to the 'American Standard, or Freestyle?' conversation if one of you has a hat and boots.
>>23892179
fwiw, I know few women who would like a guy LESS for dressing in whatever looks and feels good on him.
One word: Prince.
>>23892247
Super true.
Also, I have a special soft spot for Eddie Izzard's line, "They're not womens' clothes, they're MY clothes, I paid for them!"
>>23892259
I'll regret it if I don't ask: I'm on kik as basicinsight if you're looking to chat to people. You sound nice. Don't worry if not though.
>>23892247
>>23892259
Awesome things to go by. I think people should really wear more of what they find comfortable.
>>23886892
Well if it was done as a joke..
>>23892259
Same as >>23892402
I'd like to talk to you more just for conversation if you're looking to chat. If not it's fine.
As a lean, tall dude I've always kind of wanted a partner that would be down with me being smooth and wearing frilly things on the side. It's good to know that liking cute things is okay, as the weird sissy shit is a turn-off for me too.
>>23892402
>>23892687
I don't mind chatting! I'm not on Kik though. Want my throwaway email?
>>23892707
Sure thing.
For anyone else here who wants to chat, my kik is posted above and my throw email is [email protected]
This thread makes me happy. My ideal partner would be a girl who maybe would even be a reverse trap with me. I don't crossdress outside but I am convincing when I do. I'm a switch, not a "sissy" or anything like that, I just like looking cute and being a guy in the end. Would be cool to explore that sort of thing.
>>23893007
You sound like a really cool guy.
>I just like looking cute
Don't we all my friend, don't we all.
i wish more girls would be into crossdressers... btw i hope i dont fall into the misogynistic category...
>>23888971
Literally only have one pair of panties cause I live with another guy but I wish I could wear skirts and dresses
And Im pretty certain illnnever find a girl that would be OK with that
>>23894419
Same, and you look cute!
>>23894751
Pretty much me all year since I had another guy roommate.
>>23892698
The sissy stuff is cringy and grating to everyone but the sissies that do it as a turn on to be honest. I hate to sound like I'm kinkshaming, but I think they grate on most people.
As for me, I crossdress too, just because feeling like a girl is something that makes me genuinely happy. I may be a tad genderfucked, but eh. I'd say I look fairly feminine (but not passable without make-up I don't think. Just a bit more feminine than most guys) by nature, but I can't really fully relate to the thread since I like men. I've met girls that liked me despite my crossdressing though, in case that helps. They've always been the sort of more assertive types (though not really dominatrix types or anything like that) but that's probably honestly just a coincidence, or just because I tend to attract more dominant dudes as well.
Long story short, it's not super common but there's definitely girls that don't mind or even like crossdressing.
>>23895467
>I may be a tad genderfucked
As much as I hate the type of stuff that goes on around tumblr and they're made up terms for most things, I do say I'm genderfluid when people ask about why I like feeling like a girl. Not that I get offended or anything and I still write my sex as M on documents, but I do like being addressed as a girl most of the time.
It's pretty much like you said:
>I crossdress too, just because feeling like a girl is something that makes me genuinely happy.
>>23895441
Feels bad, I'd love to wear cute dresses, and be told I'm cute by a qt3.141
And hold hands and make out like normal couples, but it will never happen
>>23895742
Have hope man! Some girls are into it, as clearly shown here. Really it's just finding someone and being comfortable with what they're willing to accept. Most guys I know probably wouldn't be fine with their girlfriend dressing like a guy, but it's not to say there aren't guys that do.
Plus bi girls would most always like this sort of thing.
>>23895750
I'd love to swap clothes with my girlfriend that sound really fun, and maybe I'll find someone, I am KisslessVirgin so not sure how I'd even bring such a thing up
Chick here, how do I find dudes like yourselves?
>>23897175
Honestly, the best way I can think for a girl to actively and knowingly find me is to just ask about how a guy feels pertaining to wearing certain types of clothing. Even friends who don't know I'm "Jas" half of the time know that I like the way girls clothes fit better on me then guys'.
Although really just acting open minded when meeting a guy is easy. I met this one girl in line at a mail pickup and she was wearing this hipster outfit and half her head shaved. I instantly just felt she would be accepting from the way she looked (which is kinda judgmental on my part) and now she's one of my closest friends and likes for me to try on outfits she makes. She was actually the first person I went out in public with too.
TLDR, just be yourself and don't be afraid to ask about things. I'm open to talk if you want. kik: Blackspider14, email: [email protected]
i dated a guy who is genderfluid. he wears makeup, dresses, wigs. he also has a beard. i'm into it. i love to paint guys' nails and stuff, most of the guys i date are into that at least (feminist, queer-friendly, weird, etc). we don't see each other anymore (not really my choice) but i'm still really into him.
i like weirdos tho, so probably not a representative opinion
yes, yes I would. I am a trans woman who likes girls, but I have always been open to the idea of having a boyfrend if he was a pretty boy/extra effeminate. So crossdressing would honestly be a step in the right direction. It's pretty hard to find a really pretty femboy though, most boys that crossdress seem to be into being hard, manly men when they aren't in a dress. Seeing another trans* person get off on feeling degraded because they are a woman is disturbing to me, so I can't say I am into "sissy faggot chastity-slaves". Not my fetish not my problem.
tfw you will never have a cute sissy bf to force to go shopping with you while he's dressed like a girl
tfw you will never fix his terrible taste in women's clothing that 90% of cds seem to have and make him so passable that straight men turn their heads when he's around
tfw he will never beg you in tears to not make him wear girl clothes today because someone he knows might see him
tfw you will never tie him up and jerk him for hours without letting him cum as punishment for taking off his girl panties without permission
Sure, I even find it pretty hot. What kind of girls are crossdressing guys into? Super feminine ones? Dominant or submissive?
>>23899586
I posted before but I'd love if a girl could either dress up with me too or even crossdress as a reverse trap. Though I understand of they aren't too into that, I'm only in trap mode when not busy now and this stuff takes time.
I'm a switch, not some submissive sissy blob so a switch girl would be nice. Would be fun to just change rolls back and forth, makes for an interesting dynamic. Into light petplay as well so it works out with that dynamic. Though I'm kind of shy so I guess a shy girl would be best too.
Femininity is fine but attitude matters above all. Even if I can be dominant I'm not a mean person and I'd hope my partner would be the same. I don't want a perfect person because I'm nowhere near it but what attracts me is the drive to improve yourself. Everything else doesn't matter. Looks and life position doesn't matter to me a long as you are giving it your best, because that's what I'm doing right now and so far it's been working I think.
Long answer but that's pretty much it.
>>23899294
I'm pretty much a sub, even when I'm not dressed... Depends on what my partner wants though. I would think most guys who cd are open to being effeminate outside of dress, but not in a 'talking in lisp' way.
>>23899376
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>>23899586
Personally it doesn't matter to me. Feminine girls would be more fun to dress up with being that they knew what they are doing when it comes to clothes and makeup. Even my closest girl friend knows less about makeup than I do, and I'm horrible at it. Dominant girls are fun if the guy like that thing, and most CDs I meet are into it, I know I am. Submissive girls are also really cute if the guy is fine with still domming like most CDs are. Plus it's not like a couple can't be submissive together.
TLDR, just be yourself. There's not one type guys are into. =^-^=
I really like this thread.
>>23899972
This is a pretty good thread! It's got a good positive vibe but it's not turning into a circlejerk.
>>23897607
I like this post, even though beards are about a 99% dealbreaker for me (the 1% being RDJ, he can have a beard). But even though a lot of the threads here focus on the pretty and "passable", there's different flavors for everyone and I think almost everyone is lovable and every kink has its counterpart.
>>23900069
Yeah, I'm kinda glad for that. Even in most CD threads here that aren't sissy/femboy/ect. there's a majority of hookups.
I was gonna post my own pictures earlier but I didn't want to start something like that accidentally, even though mine aren't sexual in the least .
>>23900069
>It's got a good positive vibe but it's not turning into a circlejerk.
That's why i don't like posting in the trap threads. Seems it's a trans circlejerk now with a spattering of traps and guys in panties trying too hard.
>I think almost everyone is lovable and every kink has its counterpart
I wish more people thought that way. The pressure to look good is intense sometimes.
>>23899972
Ahhhh I meant I want my boygirlfriend to be feminine at all times, like to the point where they still look like a girl when they are still in boimode. As for D/S, i'm a switch with a preference for subbing so I really don't care whether my partner is an alpha trap or a subby buttslut, as long as they aren't vanilla or of a low sex drive xD
>>23899294
I... I could be your effeminate boyfriend that crossdresses for you. Plz?
>>23899376
Are you looking for one to do that too? Becuase I'd seriously be down for it. Even if its just online.
>>23900069
>This is a pretty good thread! It's got a good positive vibe but it's not turning into a circlejerk
Agreed. I find I avoid actual trap threads because it's just nothing but contactfagging and sex talk. It's nice to see people talk about crossdressing as a less sexual thing for once.
>>23900302
Ooooh I see what you mean.
>>23900472
>It's nice to see people talk about crossdressing as a less sexual thing for once.
For the most part, I don't even consider it completely sexual. It feels a lot more like exploration of oneself. I know I learned a lot more about myself after achieving trap aesthetics. And while it would be fun to do naughty stuff while dressed up, it feels relaxing to me.
Sometimes talking about sexual stuff as rational human behavior is better than engaging in an overtly sexual mood.
>>23900519
I don't consider it sexual at all either. I was more referring to the fact that there's always going to be people who see it in some sort of sexual light, and there's nothing wrong with that, but I was more commenting on how nice a change of pace it is not to focus on that as someone who crossdresses for reasons completely apart from sexuality. For me I don't know how I'd explain it. It just makes me happy to look like a girl I guess.
>>23889552
I can understand why you'd say it's offensive in a roundabout way. I don't think it has to do with femininity as an idea being shamed but more so a re-enactment of the state of affairs emotionally and psychologically for the the person being humiliated. They're a lot more invested in the idea that what they are is "less than" as a result of society dictating that men who are submissive are weak combined with the taboo (and thus the expected localized societal consequence) of dressing up in an effeminate or I guess more accurately "feminine" way. That's my take anyway. I just feel bad for them.
>>23899586
The one doesn't have anything to do with the other really. Why would liking clothes have any effect on who you're physically attracted to?
>>23901001
It doesn't necessarily, that's true, but I imagine it's just to gauge interest. It's the same as asking "What kind of women/men are (insert career) into?"
>>23900948
>I just feel bad for them.
Same. I feel bad most of them never had an outlet to just be themselves. I find many of the people into this "sissy" thing are people who were taught their entire lives to be manly men and given no opportunities to be soft at all.
Personally I don't like the color pink much or enjoy acting like an idiot so I don't qualify for "sissy." Most of my clothes are in a shade of black, but I do own a pair of rainbow thighhighs which I love.
>>23900922
I totally understand that. The first time I looked at myself in a mirror as a girl is the first time I felt comfortable with looking at myself in a mirror. But I'm not going to say I'm not a guy anymore, that's silly. Also I don't mind if some people do it in a sexual way, I figure the only time I will be able to dress with a partner at this rate, if I ever end up not being foreveralone, is in the bedroom.
I have a girlfriend who helps me dress up with her. The problem is, though, she wants to take it into this super domineering direction, where she ties me up and calls me a sissy and acts like a dominatrix..
But it's not really what I'm looking for. I just wanna wear a cozy dress and leggings and chill around the house watching netflix and doing each others nails.
The other day though she had me in this turquoise dress that was super cute, which was nice because normally the wardrobe she puts in front of me is all pink. Pink is cute, but.. there are other colors haha and I don't wanna look like an overgrown 8 year old every time i dress up
im a guy and really want a relationship with a qt guy like that, not necessrily a trap, but more femboy/twink
i once was involved with a trap and then he said he he wasnt romantically attached to guys but liked gay sex which made no sense to me and it sucked.
do alot of traps/cds do that? really bummed me out and baffled me
sorry for the off topic post, im lonely too
>>23901752
Sounds pretty cool, minus the domineering thing.
>>23901884
Well.... I can't speak for everyone, but I've fantasized about getting used by guys simply from the aspect of getting dominated, but I would personally never date a guy because I'm just not attracted to masculinity. Again, I can't speak for all cds/traps, but it's more of a fetish than anything, and once it ends it's over.
Would anyone here like to start a group chat on Skype or steam maybe to help each other out tip wise and stuff for once this thread dies?
>>23901884
I think for some of them it's probably a kink, but the majority are bisexual at least I'm guessing. The vibe I always got is that bisexuality is the most common amongst crossdressers, and I can't imagine the whole 'want to have sex with guys but not date them' make up a majority of that. I think most of them do like guys.
Personally I'm completely gay. I can't even imagine myself in a relationship with a woman, nor can anyone who knows me. I'm not flaming or anything, but I think it's just easy to read that I like guys. Maybe because I'm fairly feminine by nature.
>>23901884
Cock is great but men are completely uninteresting at best. Sorry you got hurt, but it's not an uncommon orientation.
>>23901958
I wonder, what would you think about dating a femboy? Someone like this >>23900302 maybe.
Well if you're hooking up with girls from here this really shouldn't be an issue. Two of the girls that I fooled around with from here were actually the ones who suggested we try out crossdressing in the bedroom. The one was pretty simple just put on some cosplay she had and got busy. The other kinda took it to a stranger level than I was comfortable with, full make up, wigs, lots of shaving to get rid of body hair, and "pretending I was a futa". But damn it was kinda worth it, she was hot as shit.
>>23889460
>>23892097
Thirded. I see the hyper-feminine "sissy" clothing as just a more extreme, ultra-emphasised extension of the sweet lolita style myself, but then I think of that as a fashion thing personally.
As for "forced fem": I think it can be really hot when the "forced" "humiliation" part is really obviously just overcoming the embarrassment from someone who purely and genuinely wants it but is a little bit scared to allow themselves to. It can give them permission to explore it by creating a scenario which purports to take that agency away from them (even if it doesn't really do so, as any experienced sub knows). The bashfulness of someone who can't believe they could ever have felt so comfortable or looked so pretty is absolutely adorable.
The big turn-off for me personally (not meaning to kink-shame, of course) is when the sissy stuff veers into the bizarre cock-hungry Stepfordised mind-broken doll territory. It is literally an objectification TF fetish then, which isn't to criticise those who like it in any way - exploring taboos have always been a thing in kink - but there are definitely a lot of people who need to just please remember that they're only OK for play, not for realsies: outside a scene where someone's agreed to it, objectifying women (people in general, really) is very Not Cool, and femininity isn't in any way a lesser state for someone to be "degraded" to. Way too many people need to remember that and seem to forget it.
But then, I've also met some perfectly articulate sissies of that school who believed that's what they personally aspire to be, but it isn't in any way a reflection on real life. They don't attract me, but I respect them for that. I guess it's a personal thing.
Good thread.
>>23897175
Here? (You could do worse.) Kink parties? FetLife (being aware you'll have to wade through the cringe-sissies first)? /cgl/ brolita?
>>23903671
I've thought about it for a while actually. I always concluded that it depends on what they're like and what they're comfortable with. I'm not avidly seeking a relationship with one, but I would be open to it given time. I usually say I'm bi-curious, but leaning more or less towards girls in an actual relationship wise.
I'm not into cross dressing. However I've always wanted to be in a relationship where I could dress my girlfriend up and do her makeup and hair. She would wear anything I bought for her. I like studying fashion magazines and new hairstyles. Nothing sexual, more like having a living doll you love. I think this desire came from playing RPG games where one can customize a female character.
I like sexually repressed white guys who are possibly open or curious about being forced feminized and may be encouraged to suck BBC.
Bonus points if they're a bit racist so they'll be even more humiliated.
Kik: skipandhop187
>>23901752
She sounds perfect especially if she wants to force you into being a sissy cock slut
Enjoyed reading this thread
Most of the people who have been attracted me appreciated my more feminine traits over the masculine (pretty much waist down)
And would have me wear panties etc.
They all want to screw me, but I really just want to be cute
>>23903992
I wouldn't mind chatting up some of the dudes in this thread; I haven't had much bad luck meeting people from 4chan.
Fetlife is really worthless for this kind of thing desu.
>>23905271
Go for it.
>>23905271
At first I was surprised you had trouble finding just like us. But I get it, most guys who crossdress are looking for other guys, I assume.
Personally I didn't even think a girl would want a guy like me. I'm not strong, I look frail, and I dress like a girl in private. Always considered my existence a red flag, at least where I live. Most women where I live want strong, macho guys or the 50 shades of gray type with money and power.
>Fetlife is really worthless for this kind of thing
I've tried looking at fetlife but it seems weird. The kink community isn't for me, I'd rather keep my stuff private and not searchable so someone can mail it to my job.
>>23905758
>most guys who crossdress are looking for other guys, I assume.
From a lot of polls and statistics, the majority of crossdressers are straight guys who just like wearing women's clothing. There are a good amount that are bi or gay, but majority wise it's straight.
>Most women where I live want strong, macho guys or the 50 shades of gray type with money and power.
Pretty much here too.
if someone makes a group chat i would be down to join
>>23906792
Kik or skype?
>>23906792
i actually prefer discord but i'd rather have kik than skype
>>23906822
I've never used discord really, but I don't mind setting one up.
>>23906860
i like it better thank kik because you can use it more easily from the computer and it's fun to voice chat sometimes. I can set up a room if you're not comfortable.
>>23906866
Here's the link for the discord
https://discord.gg/0142lkelGNTLyV2qn
I made a group on kik simply called 4chan CD chat.
>>23886892
No. It's disgusting. I want a man that's manly.
>>23906884
Perhaps post the kik join code?
kik.me/g/qMQOZlU_NIffCOXEtHIbDrwBPiA
>>23905758
Where do you live?
Just got a new girlfriend, and I really hope she's into something like crossdressing. I don't really know what I want, I know I can't pass and I wouldn't really want to go out in public anyways. Maybe just wearing cute things while hanging out, in the bedroom, being a sub? Dunno.
>>23892161
Lmao
>>23889601
I dress up in girls clothing because it feels good. It's not really an identity thing and I dress as a guy too.
I wear women's clothes out to parties, mostly just a skirt, nail polish and make up and no one seems to care and calls me by my real name. I do feel like I have a huge feminine side though and I would probably have been more comfortable if I were born as a woman, but I'm happy as a man. I use a female name for my tumblr and things just because it's sexier than a male name and I figure most people who want to see the pictures would prefer it to, say, 'Ian' or something.
>>23891836
I had an ex that used to refer to me as her girlfriend, that was pretty hot.
>>23901884
I'm the same as >>23901958 . The fantasy of sleeping with a guy is MUCH better than the reality. In reality I just get kind of bored.
>>23903992
>FetLife (being aware you'll have to wade through the cringe-sissies first)
I've had a few people (cross dressers) on there tell me I couldn't dress the way I am AND not be gay so I should just admit it. It's a weird site and I don't go on much, if at all really.
This is a cool thread :)
>>23907248
New York City. I guess the location lends to the attitude, since you need money to do much of anything.
>>23906884
I'll join later, on my phone now
Just adding in that it's a shame how quickly people go from "hi" to "SPREAD YOUR FUCKING ASSHOLE WIDE OPEN" with nothing in between.
I understand that the pics I take are porn, but I'm not at all interested in cyber sex or any of that stuff so it's nice to see a thread where people are just discussing the topic
>>23908033
Agreed 100%, even as someone that likes guys I've noticed guys have a very strong tendency to do this. I don't even take lewd photos of myself or anything but just on the basis that I like to dress in girl clothes some guys have this idea that I should just be perpetually horny and that I'm dressing up for their pleasure and thus should be willing to do everything they ask. It's pretty annoying. I really wish crossdressing wasn't sexualized the way it is.
Maybe the fact that I dislike that so much is another reason for why I tend to sort of be biased against the whole 'sissy' kink.
>>23889601
>Are there any other guys who just like wearing girl clothes and everything that goes with it, but also dress like a guy?
I dress as a guy for work Mot going to bring this to the office. But as soon as I get home I change into female clothes and sleep in lingerie. I just like it better.
I have gone out dressed too. I'm sort of a twinkish/androgynous looking guy so can pull it off to the point where guys have bought me drinks at bars. Sometimes I'll go to the store and shop. I've said hi to the clerk hundreds of times as a guy and he doesn't recognize me when I'm dressed.
>>23888971
What if they were on hormones?
>>23908097
I dress up for my pleasure and that's it. I love taking photos and putting them online and the attention that that brings, but I do this for me. I think it's important to set some rules and stick to them, because the attention can be so great that I can absolutely see why some people go straight to "call me a whore whilst I shove a
batman figure up my urethra" because that would bring a lot of attention. It's not for me though and I hope I never get to that point.
I understand people TRYING to get a cam show or a personalised set or something, but once I've said no I wish they'd leave it. Some guys really push and push (even once I've stopped responding), it makes me think that they've had success with that tactic and I hate that thought.
As far as the sissy thing goes, I don't get it myself. I like being strong willed not degraded....and feeling sexy, not slutty
>>23908251
>not slutty
well....I'm not sure why I wrote that. Slutty is good sometimes
>>23908251
Yeah, I dress up completely for myself as well. I don't even put up nudes and stuff on the internet, so I have no idea where the notion that I should just be slutting it up for every dude that asks even comes from. Plus like you said, some of them get really pushy and that can be really frustrating. I guess I've come to accept that to some guys it's like an inherently lewd thing but I sort of wish I didn't have to because it's not a lewd thing to me. I guess I don't really mind if someone I'm interested in is turned on to a degree by it (though I'd prefer if he didn't see it as a sexual thing) as long as that's not all it is to them, and to a point I'm willing to indulge it if I like said person enough, but at the same time I don't see it as a sexual thing in any way.
I generally tend to prefer if others don't sort of sexualize me when I dress in girl clothes either. Dressing up and looking feminine just makes me happy. I don't want people to think that it's just a sex thing to me. That's actually kinda hurtful to me personally, since it sort of reduces something that genuinely makes me happy to fapping fuel for them.
Nothing against people who do it just for kinks, I just wish that people wouldn't assume that that's everyone who dresses up.
>>23908299
Wow, this post came out a lot more garbled than I intended.
Basically, I dress up for myself as well, and I do it just because it makes me happy. I don't want others to see me dressing up as a sexual thing, but I don't really mind a huge amount if it turns them on a little in some way, as long as they don't see it as JUST a sexual thing. I'm even willing to play into it if an outfit I wear turns a guy I really like on a bit. I just don't want them to fetishize the act of me crossdressing, because it sucks to have something that makes me so happy reduced to just fapping fuel.
I hope that's a little less of a garbled mess.
>>23888971
>A guy who feels like a real person, who just likes chick clothes? Yeah, sure, I'm down for that. I can dress him up and do his makeup, buy him panties, whatever. I like my boys pretty anyways. :)
I hope I find someone like you, or possibly someone like you finding me.
>>23908299
It's both a kink and just something I do for me. I have two bags of women's clothes because the paranoid side of me is convinced someone I know will see a picture I've taken of myself dressed up and porny and match it to a skirt I've worn out. So the kink is very separate from my normal girly dressing up. As far as I know none of my friends think of it as a sex thing, they just think it's a comfort thing.
>>23908316
I understood from the first post :) Have you been with someone who knew about your cross dressing?
Depends if you're cute and I can give cuddles too I'm all good ^^
>>23908299
>I dress like a women to feel sexually empowered
>I prefer if others don't sexualize me.... it's hurtful to me personally
Embrace what makes you happy instead of forming a tumblr complex. You can choose to own your body and be confident in yourself enough to not feel shame or discomfort. It's a simple case of letting go of your fears and worries, and saying "I don't give a fuck about what other people think".
It's a mental state that you cling to and will hold you back.
>>23908328
Yeah, my ex boyfriend knew and supported it wholeheartedly, though it annoyed him that I was scared of going out in girl-mode in public because he thought it meant I was ashamed of it. I wasn't though. I was just scared. He always used to treat me like a girl, which made me way happier than it should have.
>>23908361
I don't dress like a woman to feel sexually empowered at all. I'm not sure how you even got that from what I wrote. I specifically said (several times throughout this thread including in the post you replied to) that it had nothing to do with anything sexual, and that it just made me happy.
You are right though, I probably do care too much about what other people think and how they might judge me.
>>23908367
>He always used to treat me like a girl, which made me way happier than it should have.
I find fault with that :(
It's ok that that made you happy :) :) *hug*
Dating: Maybe if we match as people, becasue if we do, then I wouldn't care less about what you want to wear or anything like that. But most of the time I am just up for playing and flirting.
What I'd do: Bang his brains out most likely?
Crossdress boys are usually so extremly adorable and I get super caring and sweet to them, so it ends up with me taking stereotype man-role, calling him my 'princess' or something like that. But unless they're kinky in bed and pretty subby it won't work.
But I guess daytime I'd totally go shopping and looking at clothes with them (mainly for them too) and maybe get taught how to actually put on makeup becasue I just look angry when I do it. I also love cuddles and kissing, so they'd have to brace for that.
>>23908412
>I also love cuddles and kissing, so they'd have to brace for that.
Oh no! :p
>>23908421
We're talking in public, infront of parents/friends/whatever. Which also would involve the pet names, unless it would make him insanely uncomfortable.
>>23908380
Being sexually empowered isn't just about having a throbbing erection while you wear it, but you know this already, you're being difficult as a defence mechanism.
You either want to feel judged and sexualised, or you're too afraid to step outside of your shell and feel true to yourself, everyone else be damned.
I'm just saying you shouldn't feel like a victim.
>>23908429
Yeah I wouldn't have a problem with that. Maybe not at a funeral or something but other than that all is fair game :p
>>23908429
I love how these ideas make me blush heavily.
>>23908437
>funerals
Baby, why on earth would the first thing you think of be a funeral? D:
>>23908447
Okey, now I am totally up for squeezing your face. I love blush-ies c:
>>23908431
What are you even talking about? I know what sexual empowerment is. I'm telling you that that's not why I dress up. I'm not 'being difficult as a defense mechanism,' I'm telling you that you're wrong. Plain and simple.
I don't feel like a victim. I don't see myself as one. Having preferences for how I'd like to perceived does not make me a victim. I'm not sure how you're even coming to that conclusion.
And yes, I already agreed that I'm afraid to step out of my shell last post, as you might notice. I've never hidden that information.
I'm not sure where this armchair psychologist stuff is coming from but I'd prefer if you'd stop. Especially with making completely random things up about me. It's a little annoying.
>>23908473
Ha, I was just thinking of the most inappropriate place to get snuggly
>>23908473
>Okey, now I am totally up for squeezing your face. I love blush-ies c:
God I wish I was completely passable right now, still need to grow out my hair thin my eyebrows and work on my waist.
>>23905271
> Fetlife is really worthless for this kind of thing desu.
Fetlife is pretty worthless all around. My experience there is that a disturbing number of people there jump straight from "you like a thing" to "you must want to do a thing with me!"
Yes Mr. 55-year-old redneck who hasn't actually seen his own cock in at least 10 years, I would love to pay for my own trip out to Middle-of-Desolation and play with you...
(Seriously, this is a proposition I got. He actually got upset that I turned him down.)
>>23908429
If they make him insanely uncomfortable then you just have to whisper them to him and give him a little squeeze on the butt when nobody is looking. :D
Hi. I started taking Spiro like three days ago. AMA.
>>23908479
>Defcon 5! Someone doubts my special snowflake nature
You are being a victim. Having preferences for how you like to be perceived is well and good, but choosing to feel hurt by how others perceive you is all in your head.
You should be more positive about yourself. I don't care if you don't appreciate this kind of talk, you can choose not to get angry about it if it genuinely doesn't apply, and you aren't insecure on some level about yourself, and aren't rationalizing it by saying it's the fault of other people that you don't feel confidant, and they are the ones at fault for finding you sexually attractive while you're in your element and owning it.
>>23908483
I raise you kindergarten.
>>23908490
You're always passable as long as you do it because you love it. Don't be harsh on yourself, no one is perfect and surely there is nothing wrong with wanting to improve, just remmeber that you're good in any case c: <3
>>23908498
Sneak him little notes and kiss his forehead when no one is looking~
>>23908521
I know how being hurt works, thank you. What does it have to do with 'doubting my snowflake nature.' Why are you so offended by me not wanting to be just a sex object to guys? I never said guys aren't allowed to find me sexually attractive. That's yet another thing you've pulled straight out of your ass. All I've said is that I don't like when guys assume I'm dressing up specifically to get dicked and that I'd prefer if they don't automatically treat me like an always-willing-cock-oven just for the way I dress. How is that remotely 'special snowflake?' I imagine most people don't want to be seen that way.
Actually, you know what, nevermind. This was a nice thread and I'm not going to shit it up anymore with this pointless debate. If you want to reply, feel free but I don't want to ruin this thread for other people so I won't reply.
girl when i was a teenager said I had a small dick :(
still hurts. have thought about wearing female clothing if a hot enough girl was into it, but isn't it considered kind of gay?
>>23908552
Who cares? c:
I mean if you have a small penis and a dress (or skirt or what ever I dont know what you prefer c: ) feels appropriate than by that extent it's an expression of your masculinity :D
>>23908540
OK, so long as we restrain ourselves at funerals and schools we're good. Cuddle away :)
>>23908540
>Sneak him little notes and kiss his forehead when no one is looking~
Hee! I love doing this to boys. I'm freakishly tall for a girl (just under 6'2", no kidding) and there's something about it that makes my boyfriends feel small and delicate.
The one CD boy I've dated dressed like one of those cute late-90s tomboy punks and the way he lit up at foreheadkisses was priceless. I kind of miss him. :/
>>23908570
>just under 6'2"
I'm 5'5" and my first thought was you could probably use my head as a arm rest, got myself all fidgety.
>>23908561
Meh, just really self-conscious about it. Feel like I'm smaller than other guys my age (early 20s)
Anyway, currently wearing these. Girl told me a long time ago guys with smaller packages should just wear these instead...guess I'm following her advice...
Still think dressing up as a girl in front of a girl would be nerve wrecking tho :3
>>23907972
>FetLife
Midwest cd here, have had no luck with that site either. Seems more for already established circle jerks.
>>23886892
I've had a casual bbw fwb that was super into me dressing up for her. She explained it once to me, basically it was fun for her to shop for and put me into all the sexy things she could never wear.
When we'd go shopping if we got any looks she kept it cool by saying things about her "neice" and if I thought these would fit her or if she'd like them, kek.
>>23908588
What ever feels comfortable
Nerve wrecking? I call that excitement, besides, what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger ;v
>>23908543
>it annoyed him that I was scared of going out in girl-mode in public because he thought it meant I was ashamed of it. I wasn't though. I was just scared.
You've never been treated that way in public, have you? Don't bother bullshitting that either. You've been coming up with these complexes from scenarios in your own head, and then blaming an entity created by other 'victims' because that's the fashionable thing on the internet.
Sorry that your little hugbox sometimes needs a dose of reality.
>>23908597
C-cool :3
Do you want to be my online gf? haha
>>23908570
No fuckinmg way, I am actually just hitting 6'2 as a female too xD I feel you on the "All my bfs have been small and delicate" even if two of my exe's actually were taller.
I used to date a guy who said he was CD but actually was trans. He loved borrowing my dresses and since my mom simply doesn't care and isn't a run-and-tell he was always free to look like he wanted to at my house and I loved seeing him so very happy <3
>>23908586
Omg. That height.
Would you be fine with being carried around and be spoiled?
>>23908605
sure if youre into irl wannabe traps ;v
>>23908611
ahh nah. femanons only. sorry.
>>23908607
>Would you be fine with being carried around and be spoiled?
Entirely.
>>23908607
as a female do you like boxers or briefs on your guys? curious. :). briefs guy here!
i would love to find a girl who likes a crossdresser. in public/work etc im a fairly masc, regular guy into metal music, cars, etc etc.. but by myself and online I love putting on panties and other things. I'm bi, but not out.. very inexperienced there. if any ladies, or cute cd want to chat (platonic or not) kik me gs427tt
>>23908621
Boxers if we go male underwear, briefers give me weird throwbacks to my grandpa (wonderful man but the saggiest person on earth)
.>>23908619
¨;u; Nyah. I am fangirling over the thought of havinmg you in my lap. Tiny guys are like the cutest thing
Btw, This thread is so wonderful.
>>23908631
>¨;u; Nyah. I am fangirling over the thought of havinmg you in my lap. Tiny guys are like the cutest thing
I am getting so blushy, stuttery and fidgety
The image of sitting on your lap, arm wrapped around me other hand just patting/petting my head, my heart is beating so fast.
>>23908586
Someone needs to make a tall-girl/short-guy version of this picture.
>>23908607
Tall girl high-five! (Where nobody else in this thread can reach.)
>>23908645
Hey, I'm 6ft 2 too! I can reach.
>>23908621
Not a girl, but boxer briefs are the best on guys almost 100% of the time. They're also the most comfortable to wear when I wear guy underwear. Briefs are just generally uncomfortable and boxers are comfy but have too much fabric which makes them a bit annoying.
>>23908644
Just got to ask, how old are you? c:
>>23908651
>>23908645
Can we do a weird triple fistbump at being insane tall?
Btw, other femanon, DO YOU KNOW HERE TO FIND NICE HIGH HEELS? LIke FUCK they are impossible to find in my size.
>>23908657
21 Born in January.
>>23908657
What's your size? I might be able to help. My own feet aren't like super big for a guy but they're bigger than most girls' I'd imagine. (41-42 euro depending on brand) and I haven't really had much trouble finding shoes
>>23908657
We can absolutely do a weird triple fistbump for being tall!
>>23908660
wahaha ;u; I am like 3 years younger than yoooou. And I could use you as a pet. This is amazing (｡･ω･｡)
>>23908666
> 41-42
[internal crying] I am Eur 44 ;n; It is Impossible to find anything that isn't what my grandma would enjoy me wearing.
Like, sure, those are super cute, granny, but I look like your friends in church.
>>23908651
Looking at this, >>23907972 we'll call you an honorary girl then.
XD
Actually that was one of the things I miss about my tomboy-punk boy. Even before he started changing up his wardrobe, he would hang out with my friends and me, and he 'felt' like 'one of the girls', you know? He was our honorary girl and got invited to our chick nights and that was OK, and I had a special kind of emotional intimacy with him that I think came out of that.
I'm not saying that CD-boys are automatically better at this, just that most straight-straight boys are pretty bad at it, and he particularly was very good.
>>23908674
>>23908666
Quick question to other tall ones, do you ever stand next to your short friends and look really damn smug?
>>23908674
>wahaha ;u; I am like 3 years younger than yoooou. And I could use you as a pet. This is amazing (｡･ω･｡)
At the risk of being a bit forward could I give you my kik? If nothing else just to chat
Which, I live in the US, Ohio. I'm also currently in university studying to be lawyer.
>>23908645
>Someone needs to make a tall-girl/short-guy version of this picture.
Currently working on that, having a bit of difficulty with no experience drawing on the computer.
>>23908674
Huh, that is a bit surprising. On the bright side you're not out of options for heels! Jeffrey Campbell has a few shoes in sizes like that I think. So does Gabor. I think Demonia does too if you're into more stompy punky shoes but I'm not sure because UK sizing conventions are kinda weird. I'm sure there's more, but those are the main ones I'm aware of.
>>23908691
Uhhh. Surely you can, but I am not lewding with you <u<' Annnd we literally live on different sides of a pretty darn gosh big ocean.
>>23908674
I'm US 10-ish, which is usually EU 42-43 and is just at the very high end for what most companies make.
Pennangalan (http://pennangalan.com) will make a lot of their boots to order, so you might be able to go for one of the small boy sizes? Their website is all kinds of screwed up, though, so make sure to email customer service and ask how long it will take before placing an order. Some of their boots they don't make/get anymore and they're not all marked. :(
>>23908682
I think about half of my short friends have pictures of me carrying them bent over my shoulder like spoiled little brats.
>>23908682
I'm actually not super super tall (for a guy. again, I'm not really a girl. Just trying to help her out anyway). I'm about 5'9. So not really tall or short.
>>23908707
>but I am not lewding with you <u<' Annnd we literally live on different sides of a pretty darn gosh big ocean.
I wasn't really planning on the lewding.
But it seems it makes you a bit uncomfortable so I won't.
Sorry.
>>23908710
So are you into spankings? Like if one of your friends was over at your house and got your house all muddy from walking outside, would you pull them over your lap and give them a spanking over their undies?
>>23908681
> we'll call you an honorary girl then
Thanks :). I know what you mean, I have a much higher percentage of female friends than male and we do girly things together. I can't see why other guys don't do that, it's so much fun! Each to their own I guess
>>23908712
That was not my intention >.< I just wasn't prepared for anyone actually wanting to talk to me
>>23908710
I approve of that. I give my guy friends piggyback rides :3 Mainly because I am the tallest one around.
And thank you for the shoe site :3 I'll check that out. I just hope they ship all the way over here <.<
>>23908704
Looked it up, demonia being the only ones who seems to have anything cute in my size~
>>23908721
I'll totally spank my boyfriend pink if he's into that, but it's not really a thing for me in itself.
My friends are goofs, but that's OK. So am I.
( Hey everyone, I'm late for work! Talk to you guys again tonight. <3 )
>>23908746
Bye x3
>>23908743
>That was not my intention >.< I just wasn't prepared for anyone actually wanting to talk to me
Oh, well.
My kik is Protemanon if you want it
>>23908743
Pretty good choice. I love some of the stuff demonia has on offer. These tartan creepers I think are adorable. They also had some really cute heels using the same tartan pattern, but I'm not sure if they still sell those.
At the top of my current wishlist is a pair of knee-high Tommy Hilfiger boots though. They're expensive but oh so pretty.
>>23908763
Price is always an issue with beautiful shoes </3
>>23908785
Ya, that's an unfortunate truth. The Tommy Hilfiger ones I liked cost about 200-250 dollars I think.
Here's the opening line of a message a guy just sent me...
"Hello
do you like to get fucked from behind while wearing a skirt or dress and panties and getting the mans sperm all over the skirt /dress?
yes? no?"
At least he said hello...
I have a horrible sissy past from when I was starting to understand what transgender was, and what I had been feeling since I was a kid. I fell for the sissy meme because of /b/, but after having a couple relationships involving it I've realized I was more brainwashed into thinking it was somehow the most acceptable thing for me to be. Then I figured out what I was doing and woke up and am now transitioning and i feel much better about myself. Don't fall for the sissy meme if you have legitimate dysphoria.
>>23908097
I agree totally. I don't even take dirty pictures of myself and I still have guys thinking it's my job to get them off just because I wear girl clothes.
>>23908121
That's awesome! I really want to wear more girl clothes around my dorm, too bad I'll have a roommate.
>>23908299
Pretty much me every time I check my kik now. A conversation will go from "hi" to "I want to see you bent over, here's a picture of my dick" in 3 lines.
>>23908570
Oh my gosh, tall girls are the best. Something about one of my ex-s when she would hold me in her arms because I was smaller felt great.
>>23909003
The last guy in my kik said "Send me pics. You shouldn't be embarassed. Well I want you to know I'm cumming on the pics of you I already have."
>>23909474
oh, I have that beat by a long shot...Here's one. This is all he sent!
"after a night out you are walking home in your tightest dress and thigh highs, you look like a complete whore as you stumble down the street in your heels. you arent quite sure where you are and are just beginning to regret turning down that ride your friend offered you as it begins to rain. just then you see another person walking toward you. you decide to turn down an alleyway you think might lead you to your street. about half way down the alley something grabs your arm and flings you around, you yelp in shock and notice that it was the man walking toward you before. he is tall and strong and stares holes through you with his bright green eyes. a few seconds go by before his gaze turns to a glint of lust. he pushes you to your knees and unbuttons his pants. you can barely wait for him to reveal his massive cock and grab on to it as soon as it is free. you grab his waist and thrust his dick down your throat until you gag and cough it back out, dripping with spit. he grabs you by the arms and pushes you up against the wall. he picks up your waist easily revealing your little asshole from your minuscule dress. his throbbing cock forces its way inside you, stretching your ass to capacity, your little cock is dripping with precum as he fucks you harder and harder pushing your face against the moist wall. you can feel yourself nearing orgasm as he rams you, in between gasps for air your scream as your tiny clitty shoots all over the ground and wall. he fucks you for a few more moments before unloading inside you. he pulls out and you collapse, soaked in rain and cum. hes gone just as quick as he arrived."
I wear women's clothes so now this is fair game? Any time a woman messages me on Tumblr or xhamster or something I always ask them how they do it, they must have it so much worse than I do and they all say they spend a lot of time blocking people. It's really sad
Crossdresser here.
Absolutely love wearing Womens clothing nothing gets me harder than being a little slut for my wifey. Anyone interested in meeting up? From Canada, Alberta :3
Girls are boring
If i was a girl id be dominating cute femboys left and right, id have a harem of them, they would be my slaves
>>23909510
Oh jeez..... You definitely win man. Honestly, I feel bad for all my girl friends who say that they have guys do this kinda thing to them on facebook. It must be annoying.
>>23909227
Do you get on the /mtfg/ of the /lgbt/ board at all?
>>23908588
This is the only type of underwear I've really ever worn, except they're smaller and tighter than that
Mother knows best
>>23909674
I do now, wasn't around before
>>23909661
I pity the guys really. I mean, they're rapey so I'm not that empathetic, but can you imagine thinking that's a proper way to greet someone just because they've taken some pictures.
Hopefully it's just an online thing.
>>23909969
It's an online thing. Most of these people would not even attempt it in real life.
>>23909976
good. I hate that it must work with some people, why else would they try?
Or rather, I hate that some people might think they have to go along for some attention
>>23909987
I agree. It's gotten to the point where I don't even attempt to reach out to people. I figure they must be so annoyed at getting a bunch of assholes that I don't want to add myself to that pile of annoyances. On kik I often get that sort of thing too but I just ignore them.
>>23909995
ah I know what you mean. There are quite a few people on tumblr that I've messaged and I word everything so carefully in hopes that they won't think I'm trying to be a sleaze. Or that I'm only being interested in them to get them on cam or something
>>23909995
>>23910005
I can't speak for anyone but personally I've never minded getting approached by normal people who aren't thirsty twats that are only interested in camming or dirty talking. I wouldn't refrain from talking to someone who you think might be nice just because lots of assholes might be creeps to them. If anything I, and I assume most people, welcome actual nice and normal people contacting me. It's a lot nicer having the occasional normal and interesting person to talk to than it is to just get spammed by creepos.
I dated a girl who wanted me to wear women's underwear in the bedroom. Not in a sissy/feminization kind of way, but she thought lacy panties looked better than guy underwear.
Not specifically a fetish on mine but it was kinda hot wearing panties while roughly fucking a girl.
>>23910005
Yeah but that's because it's what people assume. Like recently I got asked on kik what I was wearing and I was like "pants." I know I can pull off being a trap but I'm not in trap mode all the time.
>>23910025
Yeah I don't mind it either, but I still fear being annoying or talking for no reason, taking up people's time.
>>23910099
> I got asked on kik what I was wearing and I was like "pants."
haha, I've done that too. Mostly when I'm online I'm not dressed up
>>23910188
Exactly. I work two jobs, I'm not cute (I hope I'm cute) all the time.
>>23909474
>Oh my gosh, tall girls are the best. Something about one of my ex-s when she would hold me in her arms because I was smaller felt great.
:3
>>23909976
Some of them definitely would though. I've been out for a drink with the girls and had men introduce themselves by grabbing my butt and saying "I think you're hot." Then they actually get confused or offended when I'm upset, like according to their mental scripts I'm supposed to automatically reciprocate and blow them right there or something.
It is pretty rare, and you're probably right that most people wouldn't be so repugnant in real life, but it's enough of a thing that I bet you could ask any girl in a big city about it and 50-50 odds something like that has happened at least once.
It's probably 1% or less of guys who are that skeezy, but they do it over and over again. In real life they're kind of limited because they exist in one place and only get so many opportunities to be disgusting, but on the Internet there are more targets and less risk, so they can be a lot more "productive".
>>23910348
Cute is as much an attitude as it is an outfit! I bet you're at least a little cute most of the time. :D
>>23910520
>n real life they're kind of limited because they exist in one place and only get so many opportunities to be disgusting
That's what I was thinking. It's why I stay away from bars and places like that. I don't "fit in" there because I'm not acting like an ass to people when I'm there.
>I've been out for a drink with the girls and had men introduce themselves by grabbing my butt and saying "I think you're hot."
That really sucks. I don't even approach people because I don't want to appear to be a creep, but some people just do that so blatantly. The downfall is I never approach people, so I'm fucked.
>I bet you're at least a little cute most of the time.
Thank you, I really hope so and try to. It's just difficult when the rest of the world expects you to feel unfeeling, where I have to be strong even though I rarely feel it. I should probably shave though, a beard makes me look old enough for people to begin to take me seriously but I hate it so much.
>>23910520
Heya. In an earlier reply you wrote:
>I think it's the "degradation/humiliation" part that seems to go with it so much, like there's something shameful about being feminine.
Wanted to comment because I think you might be mis-reading things a bit. I'm sure there are guys for whom things play out exactly as you describe, however I want to say that many view abandoning their masculinity and giving in to their feminine urges as the real driver for feelings of humiliation.
Things like SPH also play into this up to a point. Essentially this guy says: "Society expects me to be masculine, but here I am getting submitting to and getting an anal orgasm from a woman instead of being Alpha and fucking her silly." I would say that this twist is the quintessential root of the kink. Compound this with you calling him "your Bitch" and saying other degrading things, and he's putty in your hands.
would any of the girls on this thread like to chat about this, either on kik or skype. we dont have to talk about anything sexual unless you want
>>23910099
>>23910644
Oh this one guy messaged me on kik, and I told him I was only into girls and other CDs. He proceeds to say, "Oh I'm a CD too, I wear girl underwear when I fuck them." Then continues to send me like 5 dick pics. Are these guys serious?
>>23910928
We have an official chat going on in discord and kik. I'll post the links, hold on.
https://discord.gg/0142lkelGNTM4XA6M
>>23910939
Yeah one time I asked one of them if he really, honestly thought what he was doing was hot or if it was going to work, and how many times he attempted it. He responded back really apologetic saying he honestly didn't know any better and he assumed someone would like it because it's what he saw other people doing.
I don't know if the guy was legitimately stupid or not, but he had a point. A lot of people don't know how to interact with each other. They never get taught how to interact. I know personally my parents never taught me anything about interacting with people, so I found myself looking at TV and other things. But I realized it was usually fruitless and I ended up being mostly closed off from people in some way, at least until recently. I have some pity for the general population, because so many have never been taught how to treat people with respect and to really think before doing something that is rather offensive.
>>23910928
im also the one who started this thread and if you would like to chat add me on kik at cdteen97
>>23910837
As >>23892097 said, I can see it being hot under exactly the right circumstances, but there is just so, so much baggage hanging off everywhere. How is "abandoning their masculinity and giving in to feminine urges as the real driver for feelings of humiliation" any different from feeling there's something shameful about femininity on its face?
I'm not really big on humiliation play in general and this particular flavor of it just twinges me off enough that I'm happy to say, as a blanket statement, keep that shit away from me.
Like... to take your example, strap-on play is fun sometimes! And slut play can be fun. But I don't get off on calling a boy a worthless bitch slut - that makes me kind of sad really, and if a boy called me that I'd probably get dressed and walk out on him right there. But if I call him my beautiful precious little slut, taking all of that strapon, and won't he be a good boy and come for me, if I pick up a little on my fingers and smear it on his cheek when I kiss him, that's unspeakably hot. Or the same if a boy teases me gently about how I lose my words when I'm about to come, how I start begging and it trails off into pure nonsense babble because I want it so bad. I like my play to be uplifting and affirming.
But that's me.
>>23910939
A lot of guys (some girls too, but I think mostly guys) think that going to bed with anyone basically involves racking up points and inventory items to activate the dialog tree that will unlock the sex level. He didn't hear "I'm not interested, thanks," he heard "if you CD, then we can fuck", and decided, "OK, I need to get the panties item to open up that quest," not realizing there is a lot of chemistry/attitude/possibly-body-type dynamic going on unspoken.
Or maybe it doesn't matter, and he actually just wanted to virtually shove his dick in your face.
It's kind of like this: >>23911020 - some people just actually have a really stunted view of how people actually talk to each other.
>>23911352
I like your way of putting it as an RPG. Yeah, really that sounds pretty accurate. I just think the saddest thing is that they think this'll actually work on real people.
>>23910348
You can be cute in pants :p
Whilst we're on the subject of things people do that's iffy. Does anyone else get a little uncomfortable when someone refers to your dick as a clit? I heard it started as a joke on /b/ but it happens ALL the time now. I don't know why, but I feel really off whenever it happens
>>23910939
They are! Last night I had a guy on xhamster propse marriage in the first message and he went on and on and on. I wish I could save a transcript of the thing. It's actually kind of sad so I try not to be mean. But this guy, when I told him I wasn't interested and asked him to stop messaging me he started saying "but I luuuuuuuuv yooooooooou" as if I'd then be like "what, really? let me get dressed up and unhook my jaw"
He knew I'm not interested in guys too so I don't know what he wanted.
>>23912256
Thanks! I just need better fitting pants first. I'm skinny but tall with wide hipbones so nothing fits right.
>Does anyone else get a little uncomfortable when someone refers to your dick as a clit? I heard it started as a joke on /b/
It's been like this for a while. It's part of small dick humiliation. But I can confidently say I'm bigger than most people who approach me so I just laugh it off.
>I had a guy on xhamster propse marriage in the first message and he went on and on and on.
People are desperate. We're hitting a new low point in society I think where there are a shitload of lonely people who do often messed up things because they can't deal with the loneliness. I still pity them because in a way a lot of people here are just a few steps from that.
>>23912256
It's not especially uncomfortable to me, but it does make me cringe. It's a bit dumb. I guess it's part of the whole humiliation thing, or maybe it's guys trying to do the lewd with guys seem less gay. My ex-bf luckily wasn't like that. Not even at first.
>>23912790
> I'm skinny but tall with wide hipbones so nothing fits right.
My tip is to buy girl pants. I've been doing that for years. They fit me way better. They're just pants. Nobody's going to know or care that they're not male-cut.
>>23912812
I mostly mean dress pants. Girl's slacks often obviously look like girl's slacks. And while I wouldn't mind that, society seems to mind a lot. Parents too, I have to live with them until I start making money to live. But I've considered it often.
>>23912256
Yeah, it's just getting really annoying. ESPECIALLY when I even tell them first that I'm not interested in guys.
>>23912819
I feel ya. Parents are the reason I had to throw away my girl wardrobe when I came back from uni, and the reason I can't dress up at home.
>>23912819
Ah, yeah, slacks might be more annoying. I can relate there. I had to get a suit once and finding one that fit closely enough to be adjusted to my measurements was a complete nightmare. I hope I never need to do that again.
>>23912845
I could never find one. I ended up looking ridiculous.
>>23912830
I hide the little amount that I have. If I lived alone I'd have a wardrobe of it.
>>23912858
I did find one, but it needed some pretty big adjustments which ended up costing me more money than I wanted to spend. That's the thing with suits, even if they don't have one that fits any suit store worth its salt will be able to adjust one to suit you. That's what I did. They had nothing that fit me either.
>>23912256
>Does anyone else get a little uncomfortable when someone refers to your dick as a clit? I heard it started as a joke on /b/ but it happens ALL the time now. I don't know why, but I feel really off whenever it happens
This is one of the things that makes me cringe aout the whole thing. Some of the words people use are just fucking atrocious. Shit like "boipussy" and "sissygasm" and oh my god I'm not even repulsed, I'm just staggered that anyone can say these things and not punch themselves.
>>23907972
>The fantasy of sleeping with a guy is MUCH better than the reality. In reality I just get kind of bored.
Oh man, this. I remember the overriding feeling of my first time in particular being sheer boredom. And as for cybering with the millions of random guys who think that's a fun thing to do after the age of like 15, urgh. So tedious.
>>23913130
"Boipussy" is just kind of eye-rolling awkward, but I find "boihole" kind of cute in its own weird way.
One of my trans friends has said she finds "cock" uncomfortable and "clit" to be silly, but her boyfriend calls it her "girlcock" and somehow she is totally OK with that, even if she suspects she'd find it offensive from someone online.
People are weird as hell about the words they use.
>>23913135
I've had two exes now who were really good at cybering, and it was fun! It's somewhere between an RPG and writing a love story together.
Most people are pretty terrible though.
And I like sleeping with boys! You should be happy that straight women do. :) You're right, though, most men are very boring and kind of selfish about the ways they make love, and it's sometimes a thing we do because we love them, and not for itself.
>>23912939
Yeah I could always go the custom route, but that takes money.
>>23913130
>>23913361
I don't like "dirty talk" or any of that because I always feel so weird actually hearing myself say it. Not that I've ever done it but I can't imagine myself even using those words in any way that isn't a joke.
I used to do ERP, sometimes still do, but even that's gotten awkward. But I imagine I'd have to cyber or something if I was ever in a long distance thing.
>most men are very boring and kind of selfish about the ways they make love
Not going to apologize for something I didn't do, but that still makes me feel like shit knowing that, since I imagine it's true.
>it's sometimes a thing we do because we love them, and not for itself.
Just know not all men are like that. I never used to think of myself when I did ERP, I always wanted my partner to enjoy it even if I didn't. I'd imagine it would be the same with sex. It just feels selfish to just think of oneself. I always thought it would be a much better experience if both partners wanted to make each other feel good.
>>23913607
>Not going to apologize for something I didn't do, but that still makes me feel like shit knowing that, since I imagine it's true.
Oh, there's a reason I said "most men" and "sometimes". Sometimes it feels really good to be the focus of that kind of selfish, possessive impulse. It's nice to be wanted by someone you want back! And on the other hand, some of my boyfriends have been incredibly satisfying and attentive. We're definitely not doing it all just for you.
It kind of goes back to the beginning of this thread, right? There are people out there who click with you, in the ways that are important to you. You just have to go out and find them.
>>23913663
>es". Sometimes it feels really good to be the focus of that kind of selfish, possessive impulse. It's nice to be wanted by someone you want back!
Yeah this so much. I love when guys get all intense and maybe even slightly feral. Maybe not all the time from start to finish since it's also really nice when they're considerate and try to make you feel good as well but there's something about being the object of such intense desire sometimes that makes me quiver with excitement.
I think in my opinion, the ideal is a mix of consideration and selflessness and just intense desire and lust. It's no fun being with someone who ONLY pursues pleasure for me because I like to feel desired in the bedroom.
>>23913130
>>23913361
Oh man, boi pussy and sissygasm make me cringe a bit too. It's an asshole and an orgasm, what's the problem?
>>23913135
Men just aren't that interesting in real life. And I only find them interesting in video/pics if they look particularly sexy in women's clothes. It's a really hard fetish to explain. I personally don't have a problem with people categorizing it as 'gay'. Though I don't consider myself gay, even though I recognise that....man, I don't even know, or care. The fantasy is cool.
See pic related, my future husband is back tonight....
don't want this to die yet
>>23914669
then join the discord before it does
https://discord.gg/0142lkelGNTM4XA6M
>>23914680
I've been in there a few times. It's always dead
>>23914697
cause sometimes most of us are not on at the same time, but i have posted pictures in the fashion part of it
>>23914706
I didn't know there were different parts, I'm new to discord
>>23914712
same but i learned about it quickly
Any straight sissy boys who like following orders on cam? You can stare at my (large) cleavage if you can earn it...
Post your skype x
>>23913361
>I've had two exes now who were really good at cybering, and it was fun!
Cyber can be fun with someone you already know, sure, but even then it's kinda rarely great. See also: camming. I already did the long, dull nights of freezing my arse off on a needlessly long and stuttery wank, thanks.
This is easily the best thread I've ever seen on here btw. Thanks everyone!
>>23915440
Yeah, it's nice to see some people that are into this too that aren't sex crazed. Peopleshould join the discord group so we can keep the convo going
>>23914697
It really isn't. You have to start a conversation and then more people join it. Try it :)
>>23889601
I just wear girls clothes because it feels nice and I like it, not into that submissive/sissy stuff though, but I still dress as a guy and all of the normal stuff,
I used to date a girl and we'd go shopping together, fun times
>>23915310
Cyber is ok when you're apart from your s.o. and you're both horny I guess. I've done it with my boyfriend a few times when we were too far away to do anything else together. I like the aspect of writing together but when I usually write it's not eroticism. I'm not a huge fan of writing that kind of stuff.
Done camming a few times as well in similar situations. It's ok, but nothing special. I'd never choose either over actual physical contact though. Not in a million years.
>>23915854
I've had a couple of conversations in there now. I'm going to keep popping in, it'd be nice if we managed to get a little community going
>>23917469
Heh, it changed my id :/
>>23917469
It's growing, although I'm trying to get more people from here to see the link.
Anyone who wants to join
>https://discord.gg/0142lkelGNTM4XA6M
Kik group link is posted here
>>23910971
I knew I saved this picture for a reason. As a guy, I want to date AND fuck a cute, passable CD just like I would a woman. I also want to be a cute, passable CD sometimes. I think I behave in a fairly well-adjusted manner, and I just want to look like a cute girl. Anyway, after thinking about that for a few years, I saw this post on /b/ a while ago and it hit the head on the nail why the whole "sissy" concept is so off-putting for women.
Shit though. I just want to cross dress, not be a sissy.
>>23919785
There is something a little wrong with that comparison, because it forgets that the man wants to be a mindless sex object. Technically he is putting down himself. Because on the other side, men aren't allowed to be submissive by many in society because it's seen as being a failed man. Being submissive or dominant as a woman isn't really seen as anything, actually being dominant is applauded by many. But being a dominant man is seen as default state and being a submissive man is seen as being a failure. Therefore, they act like submissive women in the only way they believe they can, because they get more attention and praise than being a submissive man.
That's just the way I see it. Personally I know what it is to be seen as a failure because I crossdress yet retain everything that is male about me. Granted, I have long hair and shave everything else, but if I was a "sissy" or whatever I would be getting attention and praise for it, even if some of the attention is just loser comments. I've turned off a lot of people for wanting to stay 100% male, including a people who wanted me to be trans as well (both trans people and guys wanted this by the way).
I just try to see things the way they see it as well, instead of just discounting people as irreparably messed up.
>>23919960
They don't forget that the man wants to be a mindless sex object. It's the second sentence in the last paragraph.
Your post is kind of how I feel. I'm a pretty feminine male by appearance and demeanor, and I get treated as if I'm feminine, weak, and naive in the early stages of my relationships with people. I imagine myself as fairly formidable, so that really pisses me off. Yet sometime ago, I started blurring the lines between genders and I've often flirted with the idea of trying to actually appear as a woman to people. While I have that attraction to both men and women, I would never degrade myself.
What that post was talking about was how a lot of men, when making that change between masculine and feminine, will start adopting aspects that they believe are associated with femininity. When men express what they believe women to be like, reality and perception are usually disjointed. So this disjointed reality is manifested intensely in the "sissy" concept. Some ultra submissive guy lusting after dick starts behaving in what society has taught them that women are like.
It's like if somebody was requested to roleplay as a black person, and then slapped on some make-up and started making welfare and fried chicken jokes. Any self respecting black person would be horribly offended by that. That's the same as what women are seeing in the sissy concept. They're looking at these guys who call themselves women and actual women are saying, "That's a gross misrepresentation of what women are like."
>>23919960
Adding to this: >>23920049
Fuck, I'm getting a raging brain erection just thinking about all this. Let's get off the topic of sissies. That is just a niche example of a much greater phenomenon, actually. All cultures are raised to have certain expectations about women, men, other cultures, animals, etc. etc. The second an open dialogue is created about what each group perceives another to be like, these expectations are dispelled in the light.
"Well, I thought women are like this." Women say, "We're nothing like that. That's bullshit. Men are certain like this, however." Men respond, "No, we're not quite like that either."
Perhaps the most common comment is, "Most are along those lines, but not all." How fucking flimsy is that? Most are ALONG those lines.
What I'm saying is that by creating honest, sincere dialogues between groups, where the disconnects in perception occur are brought to light. Even if you consciously think about how society has raised you to have a certain schema for a specific population, it's hard to shake that off. In my post, you can see that despite my conscious knowledge of all this, I still can't shake the idea that women are supposed to be "pretty", wear a certain kind of clothing, and behave a certain kind of way.
If you shed the cultural element, there's absolutely no reason women should behave submissively in a social context and men should be assertive. That's just the way the pieces fell in the human evolution. Evolution doesn't just occur biologically: it's got a social component with it. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to be cute or submissive. The only offense is when you say that being cute/submissive is a trait required for being a woman.
>>23920098
I'm sorry I'm not going to reply as in depth, as I don't want this thread to shift topic as well.
I understand and agree with everything you say, it's true. It just sucks that most of the world does not see it that way, both men and women do not. It may change in the future, it may not, but I know I live right now.
Bumping this thread, can always get more people to join the Discord.
>>23922061
>Anyone who wants to join
>https://discord.gg/0142lkelGNTM4XA6M
>Kik group link is posted here
>>23910971
Everyone's welcome
I just want to look cute and feminine, but I know very little girls in Florida into that kind of thing.
>>23924784
>but I know very little girls in Florida into that kind of thing
Where in Florida? Central Florida here!
>>23924959
not >>23924784 but same
my kik is circadrum
>>23924784
>but I know very little girls in Florida into that kind of thing.
This either needs a grammar check, or an FBI van.
>>23925367
Haha that's what I was thinking.
Let me try fixing for my purposes:
I just want to look cute and feminine, but I know very few girls in New York into that kind of thing.
fem here
guys who crossdress are my thing.
>>23886892
I would love to know and understand more about his motives before judging. I generally wouldn't mind at all.
Personally speaking I'm not very girly, I know a little about makeup, clothes, so it's nice to get to know someone who is opposite of me.
I hope you find the person you want soon.
>>23926509
That sounds awesome too. Never really cared about makeup on girls.
Any other people wanna join the discord before this thread dies?
