I would like to write down how I think about "dead" boards.
*****
I'm wondering why we have to stop or delete any boards which is useless?
Maybe we just leave them alone.
As long as users use a board, it's worth to be alive, I think.
Even I don't understand why it's fun for them.
If the board harms, it's controversial.
>>416437
Hi
>>416437
Delete /lgbt/ pls
日本語でOK
Hello Hiro, please wordfilter Reddit, it's a blight on the site and leads to plenty of shitposting
Thanks
And sure, there's no real reason to delete boards, unless you don't want people to talk about a certain topic. It's not like they're going to use up any bandwidth while they just linger.
>>416437
hiro things rot over time.
Boards become worse and worse.
Not many deserve deleting, but some have to be cleaned. Rejuvenated.
>6 posts
>5 IPs
Silly hiro.
>>416437
That's a neat looking hamburger. I'd take off a few of those things, though.
>>416446
Stay on topic man, this isn't a general Q&A, let him get his info and have a general Q&A later.
>>416451
Well, I came here to make a thread about how Hiro should wordfilter Reddit, and what I see is a thread by Hiro himself, made the moment I opened the board
It's like someone's listening to my thoughts, and I just had to write it
>>416437
I think the only real reason to delete a board is when people no longer talk about the intended topic. If there's only few posters on a board, but they still stay on-topic, then that's completely fine.
Unless the 4chan software has a limit to how many boards you can make, then you could think about deleting some boards to make room for more active ones, but I doubt that.
>>416437
Hi, Hiro.
The issue with having too many boards is balkanization. You end up splitting up topics which used to be discussed on one board, which diminishes the experience on each board. Deleting slow boards wouldn't delete the topic, it would just move it over to a larger board where it would be integrated with other topics.
hiro! much love from burgerland.
am visiting japan soon, will be sure to say hi if i see you walking around!
>>416453
the voices in my head are right too.
Delete ur life homo
>>416455
Larger boards are not necessarlily good though, as becomes apparent when you take a look at some of the big boards like /tv/ or /v/. Smaller boards can improve the quality of discourse, but they can also lead to circlejerking, I suppose.
>>416460
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that we COULD create a board about just basketball, and it would get some posts every day, but the reason we don't do that is because it would fracture existing boards for no real reason. When people want to talk about basketball, they can do that comfortably on /sp/, and creating a board exclusively for that is bad for /sp/ and for /basketball/ because it divides a community. Similarly, re-integrating unpopular topics back into bigger boards may end up being better for the community as a whole.
hiro please delete /trash/ before it's too late
>>416464
No, just disable thread creation.
>>416465
this would be okay but i still don't understand why anything should be sent to trash.
If it is bad enough to remove, why keep it around hiro?
>>416466
Keeps some shitposters busy for a little bit
>>416467
you could use /b/ or just whatever board makes it not off topic
but yes /trash/ needs to stop making threads
>>416437
Hiroyuki-san,
I believe boards that are truly dead should be re-integrated into new boards. As an example, if /k/ and /m/ both saw less than 20 posts a day, perhaps those 2 boards could be combined into 1. Though the topics would be totally different, it would provide a place for the userbases of both boards to thrive rather than being deleted.
Another idea:
Maybe you can lower the amount of pages on slow boards, just as you have done on /qa/. I agree with you, as long as people are using a board, it's worthwhile. Maybe cutting the page numbers back by half would be the best choice.
>>416455
Balkanization is a really big word for Hiro, man.
>>416437
Hiro, I recommend you don't delete any "dead" boards, but you should perhaps revitalize, rename, or repurpose them. For example, /i/ could become a general purpose drawhoring, request, quest, interactive art board or something, since nobody's using it for anything right now.
/po/ on the other hand should probably be left completely alone as it's never hurt anybody and it's kind of a nice vase that really ties the room together.
>>416437
hi admin
>>416437
Oh shit, you're actually alive.
>>416437
Hi Hiro, I agree with a few of these other anons, deletion should be used sparingly, and repurposing a few boards could bring some new life to the slower boards, as well as clearing some of the clutter on other boards.
>>416437
I agree about this and I've been telling people more or less the same thing for a while now. I'm glad to hear the admin of this site feels the same way as me, it feels like my opinions have been justified.
By the way, I'd like to take this opportunity to recommend keeping a closer eye on your mod team. They seem to be trying some shady things behind your back.
>>416437
Hiro, for the love of god, do not listen to /qa/. Ever.
Most of this shithole is populated by fresh-off-the-boat /b/tards and Redditors looking to fuck over this place with stupid ideas.
Don't add any boards. Don't remove any boards. Don't add or remove filters.
>>416473
I like the idea of a general drawhoring/quest board, maybe with /tg/ dice script
Also, maybe we could delete /x/ and make a dreams and spiritualism board. Anything to make /x/ less shit
>>416496
You do realize that you're also on /qa/ and that he should not listen to you either, then?
>>416454
>Unless the 4chan software has a limit to how many boards you can make
I believe we don't have limits.
maybe limit is 65535? depending on DB settings.
>>416456
If I see you, I'll say hi to you.
>>416500
I thought you were in Paris.
>>416466
>If it is bad enough to remove, why keep it around hiro?
there is a thread bad enough for a board, but it worth for other place.
>>416501
right.
>>416500
thanks, hiro!
>>416502
So, off-topic threads? I think some kind of general spirituality/religion space could clean up /x/ /lit/ and maybe /his/, though religion seems to belong there now
Deleting anything will only lead to butthurt and shitposters freaking out.
>>416505
There is no such thing as an off topic thread. /trash/ is here to stay, and the board I spend most of my time on now.
>>416505
>So, off-topic threads?
yep.
>>416506
Making anime threads on /out/ is off topic
Posting about cars in /a/ is off topic
The vague nature of board themes allows for a wide breadth of topics, but there are liminal topics that don't exactly fit anywhere, or Shit up the area they Normally end up discussed in
>>416502
>there is a thread bad enough for a board, but it worth for other place.
I don't quite understand what you're trying to say. Are you trying to say that a thread might be bad on one board, but good on another?
>>416507
Hiro, there are a lot of *chans with boards like /trash/, but none of them allow thread creation. Allowing people to make threads on /trash/ is just encouraging shitposting.
>>416510
I agree, it seems to defeat the purpose
>>416503
Have you returned to Japan yet?
Also there a lot of issues that /a/ and /jp/ have that need fixing.
will you be my gf hiro chan
>>416510
The fact that people can make threads is what makes /trash/ beautiful. It takes stress off of the moderators and allows off-topic threads to have a home.
Hiro, please don't change /trash/. I think it's working exactly how it's meant to work.
>>416437
Thanks for your Input, hiroyuki.
Some boards are slow, but i love to read there content.
hiro are you still in contact with moot at all?
we miss him
>>416517
>It takes stress off of the moderators and allows off-topic threads to have a home.
Shitposts, ERP threads, and get spam don't need a 'home'.
>>416507
You know what deserves to be its own board?
Australia. Fucking Australia.
If you create a board just for us Australians, it would simultaneously be the best and worst fucking board ever.
>>416517
>The fact that people can make threads is what makes /trash/ beautiful
No it's just bland furshit and ponyshit. There's nothing beautiful about that.
>>416523
>There's nothing beautiful about that
You do realize that you are talking about a board literally called /trash/, right?
>>416524
yes
>>416525
No, you don't.
don't add or delete any more boards, the way it is now is fine
Hiroyuki, We are in desperate need for a /cape/ board.
/tv/ and /co/ are filled with uselss threads that belong to niche superheroes and the boards are unusable.
I will post stats in a moment.
>>416525
Don't impersonate me please.
>>416530
82/148 - star wars (/tv/) (not counting the pedo threads and non-SW shitposts)
the rest usually die with 10 posts or less.
Usually more pronounced on /co/ during release of a comic book movie because /tv/ comes in. This will destroy these boards.
Take a look at the future release schedule, 2016-2020:
35 capeshit films
29 new capeshit shows
5 (minimum possible number, rumored) Star Wars films.
Also, not counting the various tie-in comics, merchandise, and other things which tie in users from /toy/, /co/, /a/ and /tv/.
Before these movies are released there are three trailers on average for each film, and the subsequent movie bitching threads and then comparison threads. These fill up /tv/ and /co/, and /cpsht/ will be ESSENTIAL if board quality is to be maintained.
/cpsht/ rules:
Allow ONLY capeshit (comics and movies) and sci-fi video media
BAN discussion of capeshit comics and movies from /tv/ and /co/
pic related is missing some movies and tv shows.
Combining low-traffic but related boards can help generate more content by introducing users to new subjects. /g/ and 3d/ should be combined. Some of the divisions seem kind of arbitrary.
>>416535
http://desustorage.org/qa/thread/387240/#387240
Capeshit movies
Release Date (USA) Title Studio
Feb 12, 2016 Deadpool Fox
Mar 25, 2016 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice DC
May 6, 2016 Captain America: Civil War Marvel
June 3, 2016 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 Paramount
May 27, 2016 X-Men: Apocalypse Fox
Aug 5, 2016 Suicide Squad DC
Nov 4, 2016 Doctor Strange Marvel
TBA, 2016 Gambit Fox
Mar 3, 2017 Wolverine 3 Fox
May 5, 2017 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Marvel
Jun 23, 2017 Wonder Woman DC
Jul 14, 2017 The Fantastic Four 2 Fox
Jul 28, 2017 Untitled Spider-Man Film Sony/Marvel
Nov 3, 2017 Thor: Ragnarok Marvel
Nov 17, 2017 Justice League: Part 1 DC
TBA, 2017 LEGO Batman WB
Feb 16, 2018 Black Panther Marvel
Mar 23, 2018 The Flash DC
May 4, 2018 Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 Marvel
July 6, 2018 Ant-Man & the Wasp Marvel
Jul 13, 2018 Untitled X-Men Movie Fox
Jul 27, 2018 Aquaman DC
Mar 8, 2019 Captain Marvel Marvel
Apr 5, 2019 Shazam DC
May 3, 2019 Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 Marvel
Jun 14, 2019 Justice League: Part 2 DC
Jul 12, 2019 Inhumans Marvel
Apr 3, 2020 Cyborg DC
Jul 19, 2020 Green Lantern DC
TBA Sandman DC
TBA Justice League Dark DC
TBA X-Force Fox
TBA Female Lead Spider-Man Spin-off Sony
TBA Superman Movie DC
TBA Batman Movie DC
>>416466
Its a containment board
i love u hiro
>>416537
Capeshit tv shows
TV - Currently Airing
Airtime (USA) Title Season Channel
Streaming Jessica Jones 1 Netflix
Streaming Daredevil 1 Netflix
Streaming Vixen 1 CW Seed
Mondays at 8/7c Gotham 2 Fox
Mondays at 8/7c Supergirl 1 CBS
Tuesdays at 8/7c The Flash 2 CW
Tuesdays at 9/8c Agents of SHIELD 3 ABC
Tuesdays at 9/8c iZombie 2 CW
Wednesdays at 8/7c Arrow 4 CW
Sundays at 9/8c The Walking Dead 6 AMC
TV - Upcoming
Premiere Date (USA) Title Season Channel
2015 Preacher 1 AMC
Jan 5, 2016 Agent Carter 2 ABC
Jan 21, 2016 Legends of Tomorrow 1 CW
2016 Daredevil 2 Netflix
2016 Preacher 1 AMC
TBA Iron Fist 1 Netflix
TBA Luke Cage 1 Netflix
TBA The Defenders 1 Netflix
TBA Powers 2 PSN
TBA Static Shock 1 WB
TBA Scalped 1 WGN
TBA Lucifer 1 FOX
TBA Global Frequency 1 FOX
TBA Teen Titans 1 TNT
TBA Hourman 1 CW
TBA Ronan 1 Syfy
TBA DMZ 1 Syfy
TBA Krypton 1 Syfy
TBA Vixen
Take a look at /co/ and /tv/ right now, cape threads are flooding the boards just because of TWENTY MINUTES of new footage of ONE FUCKING MOVIE.
>>416536
/g/ is a bunch of faggots. leave /3/ alone.
>>416510
No place is no shitposting on 4chan.
>>416542
Well, at least you know more about 4chan than I thought.
>>416542
/cape/ - capeshit
or
/wf/ - western franchises
PLEASE HIRO
Hiro if you do make that board that people claim will save /co/ and /tv/, do not call it capeshit. It's the equivalent of calling /a/ - moeshit. Plus you should just make a /mdc/ - Marvel/DC board since that's all that board will be. Treat it like /vr/ with comic and cartoon threads still allowed on /co/ just no live action or video game threads or toy threads.
Hiro please tell your staff to stop moving Touhou threads from /v/ to /jp/.
Hiro please tell me how to be a master magician. I wanna go around saying "The Magician is my name, and magic is my game. YEAH!"
Please Hiro I need this
>>416542
Delete /pol/ most cancerous boards in 4chan also the reason why moot left
>>416542
>No place is no shitposting on 4chan.
Should be banner desu senpai.
Are you gonna do anything about this Trump shitposting? Things are getting out of hand.
>>416553
José pls.
>>416542
Hiro delete this thread >>>/a/136370968 once it reaches 500 posts.
>>416535
I think this would wear the board topics too thin. While you have a valid point, I really think that capeshit should be a /co/ thing not a /tv/ thing, as all of these things started as comics, to my knowledge.
>>416542
you're my "hiro"
get it
I also believe that /trash/ should not be allowed to create threads. I see it as a means of users getting around the rules and that's not okay.
To answer the OP post, I believe that boards should for the most part not be deleted, but there can be merit in fusing boards together that have similar enough topics and a small enough userbase/post count. I don't see it as deleting one board, just consolidating.
>>416558
What rules are being broken on /trash/?
>>416559
I assume he is one of those people that think furshit and ponyshit are only tolerated on /trash/ and rule 3 as it pertains to furries and rule 15 are still there in spirit and should be enforced.
>>416553
this. it's shilling in the disguise of memes.
and many gullible idiots will fall for it.
hiro, you shouldn't allow them to do that outside of /pol/
>>416542
10/10
Now fix /aco/
Hiro is gone again ;_;
>>416568
hiro is never gone from our hearts
>>416568
He's probably just asleep, it's like 1 in the morning.
>>416548
>It's the equivalent of calling /a/ - moeshit
Not it wouldn't be equivalent, becase /a/ isn't restricted to a single genre by nature. Not to mention what is considered "moeshit" is still high art in comparison to capeshit.
>>416499
>65535 boards
That's a big chan.
>>416437
Boards that need help Hiro are boards such as /v/ and /tv/. What must be done is to get the mods under control. The issues with moderation are huge on here.
>>416473
Agreed 100%.Hiro listen to this man
>>416542
RETURN MOOT
>>416542
Hiro, please tell us when the /fg/ and /fic/ boards are coming? You promised both.
>>416542
Why don't quest and risk people have their containment board already? Can you just make /qu/ so /tg/ won't be shit anymore?
>>416542
Thank you based Hiro for understanding. Shitposting should not be tolerated on any board. Please tell the moderation this. Specially a mod called swaglord
>>416437
>If the board harms, it's controversial.
DELETE /POL/
DELETE /R9K/
/trash/ should stay the way it is Hiro. It's actually one of the best new boards we got.
/tv/ is nothing but shitposting Hiro. You need to get in touch with moderation and ensure they are doing their jobs. Please consider hiring more mods
>>416437
DELETE /qa/
>>416659
>hiring even more incompetent mods
I'm not sure it'll work.
>>416660
I agree, then bring back /q/
Hiro please rename /qa/ to /qq/ to better reflect the nature of how it's used.
>>416437
hiro pls give me a gf
>>416437
Hiro pls don't delete /i/ and /po/
>>416437
The problem is the lack of proper staffing for these boards. Judging by the quality of moderation (or lack thereof) affecting other boards, the staff is either not large enough to keep the site in order, or they're overwhelmed with the sheer degree of content that needs to be managed.
It doesn't help the situation any that the post reporting function requires users to input CAPTCHAs before they can report anything. Then there's the fact that only one post can be reported at a time. It takes me an upward of 30 minutes just to report all the off-topic content in some threads, and there's no guarantee that a janitor or moderator will even notice the reports in a timely fashion... if ever.
So as a result, we have boards being overrun by off-topic content, /soc/ content, spam, etc., and we - as users - have very limited power to bring these issues to the staff's attention.
delete /mlp/
[spoiler]I just want to see the shitstorm[/spoiler]
>>416542
ilu hiro pls respond
>>416671
Well, and bans don't actually do anything, which makes the whole process of reporting rather pointless.
>>416437
How do you define a "dead" board? Because many boards are extremely slow, but still not dead.
Hello Hiro!
The board /s4s/ is very harmful and should be deleted. The board is extremely bad and is run by a moderator who orders attacks on other boards.
Delete /s4s/. It's harmful to the other boards.
>>416699
Bans only affect an extremely small portion of people, those with a static IP. The only time a ban has stopped me from posting was when my dynamic IP was last used by some /sp/ shitposter who got banned.
>>416699
It makes content easier to identify for the mods so they don't have to manually read every single thread.
>>416711
>11
nice
>>416716
ban doubles
>>416720
hey nerd, it doesn't work here
>>416542
Hiro, I'd just like to tell you that you're a cool guy.
Mod/janitors for /vp/ when? Also, do you like Pokemon?
>>416722
>>416720
>>416718
This is cute.
You're cute.
Why did you think your utterly substanceless, off topic post was worth trying to post at least three times?
Ban suggestions
>>416723
It's part of the anti-ironic new wave of replying
Expect my manifesto by the end of the month
>>416714
Sure, I also report plenty and do see some results rather often when a thread gets closed or a post deleted, but I also know that those people will be back to posting their drivel within the time it takes them to reboot their routers.
>>416728
Usually if they're persistent enough, they get hit with a range ban.
>>416723
I tried to spoiler, then thought that I got it wrong. I tried again, then remembered that you can't do that on this board!
Boy, am I red in the face!
>>416520
You're right, it belongs to all boards and shouldn't be contained
>>416536
/gd/ and /3/ you mean.
>>416509
yes
>>416542
new banner pls
>>416437
I agree 100% Hiro. I'm glad you appreciate the value of slow boards.
my life isn't worth living
>>416437
Slow boards are almost a good thing in some aspects, but at the moment we don't need to add or remove any boards. What I think everyone needs at the moment is stuff to make the site more fun. Not new boards for serious discussion, but silly fun stuff like the CSS changes on Halloween and Sticky, and the birthday hats (for example).
To address your original point, most of 4chan is fine the way it is. More or less boards are not the solution at the moment, but refining those boards we currently have, and generally making 4chan a more fun place to browse.
>>416653
No, he's saying you'll shitpost wherever you go.
I'd say there's nothing wrong with dead boards as long as increased bandwith/bigger database isn't a problem, but that can always be tweaked by board settings.
One argument I can see is that it takes space/attention from other boards and makes the whole site somehow less pleasant to use. If there were 100 boards and 99% people only used 10 of them, then having the other 90 could be partially a nuisance. I'd say this could be fixed without deleting boards by just making 2 indexes, one with popular boards and one with less popular/slower boards. Alternatively some boards can be hidden from the index self, but that doesn't sound like a good solution to me.
Its been 10 hours since the last reply, hes not here anymore fellas.
>>416799
We're waiting until he wakes up.
>>416802
If he's in Paris then it's about 10 PM for him
>>416542
What do you mean?
pls no bully
>>416542
>No place is no shitposting on 4chan.
>>416437
/po/ currently receives the least amount of traffic, board archives show an activity rate of roughly 10-30 people visiting the board every day
>>416437
We have slow boards, not dead boards.
Also,
Please relocate /news/ to it's own category since it is a text board. You made /pol/ upset when you added it because they are also focused on current events.
If you could bring back the old text boards, that would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
>>416862
Why must you come here and lie to Hiro-san, anon?
Go back to your other website.
>>416437
You're doing a good job so far, hiro
Don't make /cel/ or /fic or /cpsht/ though, that shit's wack
>>416806
He's in Japan.
>>416871
Disregard this post
>>416794
He also basically said shitposting is not tolerated
>>416912
He said "no place is no shitposting". As in, there is no "non-shitposting zone" on 4chan.
>>416654
I suspect that reasoning may only apply to slow boards? Popular boards may bring in too much traffic (and thus revenue) to be deleted even if they do cause harm.
>>416437
Which boards in particular do you have it mind? /lgbt/ for example is often considered slow compared to the real popular boards, but I consider it's speed ideal - on popular boards, if you enter a discussion and then have to go shopping or whatever, when you come back the thread is already archived. The slowest board I'm familiar with is /n/, which is a weird case because it kind of has this schism between cyclists and general transportation discussion, but it's too slow already to split.
>>416454
This desu
>>416455
This desu. Some really large boards might deserve a split (like putting quests and forum games on a separate board, whereas now they take up like half of /tg/ and sometimes appear on /b/ as well). But with too many boards, you end up with a situation like reddit and the other chan, where there's many boards that barely see use individually.
>>416443
Nope, just change name to /gsm/ or something.
>>416509
Pretty much I think, if the only bad thing about a thread is that it's off-topic, it should be moved rather than deleted. Though /trash/ seems pretty pointless, we already have /b/ for topics that would be off-topic anywhere else. I think off-topic threads should be moved to another board (though post numbers and stuff would make implementing these features on ALL boards a programming nightmare, most likely). And in addition to a dedicated board for forum games, we should have a SFW random board as well.
>>416527
If it's a furry porn board, it should be labeled as such. /trash/ was supposed to be a dedicated shitposting board but failed because it got taken over by furfags - who moot apparently considered too cancerous to even grant them a containment board.
>>416999
>/trash/ was supposed to be a dedicated shitposting board
That is what /s4s/ is for. /trash/ is working as intended.
>>417011
>11
the numbres ar bothe the same
Plz tell me this is not real
>finally comes back
>/v/ situation still the #1 issue currently
>discusses irrelevant topic like dead boards instead
>>416437
I like the idea of having lots of boards.
The risk is that maybe when you split a live board into two dead boards, or an active and well-loved subtopic on an active board gets its own board, doesn't adjust well, and dies (or is recovered by the original board).
>>416437
I agree hiro. I imagine if I were someone who went on a slow board like /po/ regularly and found out it was gone one day I'd be pretty sad.
They don't hurt anyone by existing
A lot of the "dead" board are only dead compared to the most active boards on this site. They still have activity, it's just very slow compared to the larger boards.
Also I don't think deleting "dead" boards is a very good policy. As long as there are people enjoying them and staying on topic then it's fine. Rather, I think deletion should be considered for boards that don't live up to their intended purpose. If a board can only have activity through off topic discussion then there's probably no reason for it to exist.
>deleting "dead" boards
Why would you delete the only good boards left on the site?
/news/ is the only that deserves to be deleted, really. It's lucky if it gets 10 posts an hour and provides no insight that can't can't be found beneath the linked articles in the comment section.
There's also the annoying name conflict between http://www.4chan.org/news and >>>/news/ . If Hiro plans to keep the board, he should at least give it a more suitable name, like /new/.
HIRO
PLEASE
DO SOMETHING ABOUT /tv/. THE JANITORS DON'T DO SHIT. OFF TOPIC THREADS, MEME BULLSHIT AND EVEN PORN STAY ON THE CATALOG FOR HOURS BEFORE ANYTHING IS DONE ABOUT IT. IT'S ALSO FULL OF /pol/ REJECTS.
PLEASE GET MODS AND JANITORS TO ENFORCE THE RULES ON THERE. A STICKY TOO.
>>417096
/news/ here. Kindly consume your own excrement. /news/ is great. slow =/= bad.
>>416437
One nice way ould be to fuse existing low traffic boards. A creative board that combines oards like /3/ , /i/ etc could give the topics proper traffic.
Certainly would not work for many boards.
>.au
> Taking it seriously
Bro.
>>417104
My /news/ nigga!
>>417021
It is, because you made it up.
>>416999
>it got taken over by furfags
they literally live on a board called /trash/.
i mean, c'mon. they've dug their hole man.
also nice digits.
hiro please make /kon/ - けいおん
>>416542
So what are your thoughts on Mods and Janitors not doing their jobs on all boards? What are your thoughts on all the shit/meme posting on all boards?
>>417161
not that guy but I don't think women should be allowed to play video games
>>416437
you're absolutely right
>>417158
Hiro please do this
I will pay good money and make sure Hillary gets into office
hirocchi, we don't need three different boards for underage cartoons
you should merge /a/, /co/ and /mlp/
>>416437
>dead boards
Nothing really wrong with them and anyone who suggest actually deleting them is probably really new to the site. The same sort of user who thinks /news/ failed and needs pictures. At best, those dead boards should either be re-purposed or merged to give them new life.
The only boards that should have any consideration of deletion is /pol/ and /vg/. However, not for the reasons idiots on /qa/ will give you.
/pol/ should be considered, because 4chan was originally created sitting in the middle between shitposting and intelligent discussion. The site receives both sides, but no part of the site is for a single side, except [s4s]. It was also created for discussing anime, niche hobbies and for having fun. Which is the problem with /pol/. It doesn't fit on the site. Politics is neither a hobby, nor is discussion of it particularity fun as people take it too seriously. It's also hard to maintain it from falling into either pure shitposting or intelligent discussion. Even more so considering the site size and the site format. /pol/ was moots worst mistake and its a bit late to delete it, in all honesty. All though, deleting it and forcing it all back into /b/ might breathe some life back into it that isn't just posting porn and reposts. But, that would be hard to do considering the sites size and the fact board and website culture is slowly disappearing as newfags refuse to adapt and would rather shit everywhere.
/vg/ was moots second mistake, as generals just simply don't belong on the site and clash with literally everything the site is meant to do and how its ran. /vg/ was never needed, as generals should of been just banned, like they were once before the mods got lazy again. It is also not fulfilling its intended purpose as generals still exist on /v/ and because of it, generalculture has grown across the site. The mods already promised to ban them on /a/ two years ago, and we are still waiting for them to actually fulfill their promise.
>>417233
>except [s4s]
you're probably not seeing all of the posts
>>417241
For all intents and purposes, [s4s] really is a board for just shitposting and old /b/ type posting. But, even a board for shitposting on a odd occasion can get some really intelligent posting.
>>417233
>>417241
Speaking of /s4s/, that's actually something I think Hiro should consider getting rid of. The problem with some boards is not that they're "dead" but that they're actively harming the rest of the site, and that's what /s4s/ is doing with its calls to invade the rest of 4chan, which have been going unpunished.
And another thing. Those gentlemen on [s4s] are just too dang sexy. How am I supposed to compete with that! Plus they have the qtest 2d girlfriends
>>417233
Apparently the mod that posted that was removed later on so he couldn't follow up on his words.
>>417243
[s4s] is a very small board and its 'raids' are very short-lived.
You're probably just butthurt they stole a get, though, aren't you?
>>417260
wait
is that actually possible
>>417264
yes
i sue the internet all the time
i'm suing you right now
>>417259
Why the hell would I care about gets at all? And saying "butthurt" on top of that? Are you sixteen years old, or are you just so mentally immature that you think gets are an important part of 4chan?
>>416437
Please add redirects for the new boards
>>417278
reverse fore
>>417291
This guy gets it.
>>417243
>He thinks [s4s] is a harmful board
Zozzled
>>417278
>are you just so mentally immature that you think gets are an important part of 4chan?
How fucking boring of a person are you? Kill yourself.
>>417277
damn senpai you freaky
>>416437
I see your point, and don't really disagree, but what's the limit here? Does a handful of users warrant keeping the board up? Would it be better served if the board was replaced with one that would draw more users?
>>417322
This implies there is a finite number of internet, which hmmm not sure
>>416437
>I'm wondering why we have to stop or delete any boards which is useless?
>Maybe we just leave them alone.
It can be temporary removal?
4chan can take its-self fore granted until it's threatened.
Possibly it's what moot did with robot9000 I dunno for sure.
>As long as users use a board, it's worth to be alive, I think.
If nobody misses a deleted board then you have your answer.
>Even I don't understand why it's fun for them.
People enjoy being part of the culture. Idea of culture differs for everyone.
>If the board harms, it's controversial.
I'd rather the culture harm the people than people harm the culture.
IMO /qa/ serves as 4chan fiction.
>>416437
You're right, Hiro. There's no reason to delete boards; people just beg for things to be deleted because they think they take up space somehow.
I think some people only use one board, so they don't understand that a lot of users browse different boards.
Hiro, I really hope you come back around today. There's a lot of things that need your attention.
>>417322
That's not how the internet works. There's not a finite amount of space. The only issue is with redundancy and over-specification, which we're a long way away from.
The only boards that can really be classified as "dead" is stuff like /po/, which is a really specific topic, or things like /o/ which don't have a lot of interests that cross over with the internet nerd demographic.
A user can use more than one board. One board doesn't take users away from another.
>>416999
Hiro said /trash/ was for threads that were good /popular but off-topic. It was not and was never intended to be a dedicated shitposting board.
See:>>416502
It became a furry board because those threads were both popular and off-topic. Ironically, the board that houses the people "too cancerous to even grant them a containment board" is one of the least drama filled boards on the site.
Moot only refused to make /fur/ because he was a goon from SA, and SA goons hated furries. That's all there ever was to it.
>>416496
The fact that you hate the idea of Hiro actually listening to the users of this site disgusts me.bIf you want things to go back to how shitty they were under moot you need to fuck off.
>>417389
>Hiro actually listening to the users of this site
>/qa/
>the majority of the users on this board actually being users of 4chan and actually caring about 4chan
Stop being stupid. /qa/ is the worst board on the entire site to actually seriously talk to Hiro about anything. The majority of the posters are here are just a loud minority and mostly newfags. You only need to browse a few threads to tell most of the people trying to bring change to the site posting here have only been here for less than 3 years and have no idea what the fuck they are talking about.
>>417394
Then why does Hiro use it to talk to us more frequently than any other board? Check and mate.
>>416999
>/gsm/
gay sex men?
Hiro how do you feel about your mods spamming cuck porn on /pol/?
>>417380
>>417410
Because he's a newfag to the site who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and assumes that /qa/ is the designated meta board and a good portion of the sites users use it. It's not and the people who use it is fucking small as fuck.
>>417394
>The majority of the posters are here are just a loud minority and mostly newfags. You only need to browse a few threads to tell most of the people trying to bring change to the site posting here have only been here for less than 3 years and have no idea what the fuck they are talking about.
Just because you believe this doesn't make it true. The vast majority of the board is made up of people who only came here because something went wrong with their board that they're trying to draw attention to.
I'm sure you think all the threads where people report mass spamming going unmoderated or their boards being fucked by overzealous moderation are part of some elaborate conspiracy to destroy /a/, but that's because you're severely mentally ill.
>>417421
It's his site now. He can do what he wants with it. You don't like it, buy it from him.
>>417421
I'm not sure you actually understand how 4chan works.
The amount of people who are going to use a dedicated metaboard is always going to be lower that the amount of people who use a board proper. That is because there are less people who are both concerned about the state of their board and willing to spend time on a dedicated board lobbying for fixes is lower than the amount of people who are content with suffering in silence.
It's like voting. Everyone has an opinion, but not everyone goes out and votes. The opinions of the percentage of people who vote (or, in this case, use /qa/) provides a representative sample of the users of the board in question.
You are feverishly convinced there is a conspiracy of raiders from Reddit and 8ch trying to "change things," but have provided no proof. You are blaming things you don't like, which in this case is "change," on an invisible outside force. This is a sign of mental illness.
I suggest you seek help. Some states provide mental health clinics for little to no charge at universities. Check online for mental health resources near you.
Good luck my friend. I hope you get the help you need.
>>417426
>The vast majority of the board is made up of people who only came here because something went wrong with their board that they're trying to draw attention to.
You can't actually seriously believe this? Considering a good portion of the people who regularly post here are straight up anti-anime, steam literal newfaggotry and straight up show they don't know what the fact they are talking about. Sure, there /are/ people who came here for the times hiro comes here, but thats a minority. THe majority are stupid fucking idiots who don't know right from left and think they know best. They also don't want hiro to leave their fucking echo chamber, because that would imply he'd actually do something fucking constructive that isn't listening to idiots whine about inane garbage and he'd also gain knowledge of the site and its user. Of course you want him here, because you are one of those idiots who want to get him to do something that if you asked him to do one anywhere else on the site, you'd get shit down because you're a fucking retard.
>some elaborate conspiracy to destroy /a/,
>someone states hiro should stop using a meta board used by less than probably 1% of the posting userbase
>he must be a /a/utist yea he must be because only a /a/utist would actually care about the site and want the admin to do actual productive shit and actually actually interact with the communities of the site
>>417438
4chan is a dictatorship, not a democracy. You are also a idiot, because all you are saying is the minority should govern the majority. That is not the case for this site. Hiro shouldn't be on a board to listening to a literal majority, he should be on the actual boards listening to the actual communities. The majority of the people who use a meta board are people who think they know best, not people who care. Kill yourself, retard.
>>417385
You got your board. The crusade is over. You can lay down your sword, stalward furry knight. You've been swinging it every day for years.
>>417444
>Considering a good portion of the people who regularly post here are straight up anti-anime
And right there you've shown your hand.
>someone states hiro should stop using a meta board used by less than probably 1% of the posting userbase
>he must be a /a/utist yea he must be because only a /a/utist would actually care about the site and want the admin to do actual productive shit and actually actually interact with the communities of the site
It's more like "only an /a/utist would support disenfranchising the rest of the site in favor of going back to the moot method of 'only use and listen to what /a/ has to say.'"
You're getting a little worked up now. I suggest you calm down.
>>417385
>Hiro said /trash/ was for threads that were good /popular but off-topic
Isn't that /b/ purpose? At the end of the day, what was the point of /trash/ creation when it is just a literal /b/ clone, just with a smaller userbase?
>>417455
You can look at it and see that it's far from a /b/ clone.
Why do people always try to change boards they don't even visit?
furries always gotta make shit about them baka
this is why people don't want you around, you have to always be the center of attention
stobit
>>417453
Nice strawman, I never said that. I said to use the boards of the site, but I guess that's too hard for you to understand. /qa/ isn't a community of the site, the anons here have no idea what's good for the site and listening to /qa/ is the same as listening to a minority of a community to govern the majority. /q/ has already proven that on 4chan, a meta board is the worst place to listen to for change on the site.
>And right there you've shown your hand.
I don't even fucking watch anime, you stupid moron. But, you can't deny the fact 4chan is anime focused site and getting upset about anime being posted here makes you a literal moron who shouldn't be posting here in the first place. Why would you go to a forum primary focused and has a deep history on x and then complain that x is posted? Hoards of newfags coming here won't change the sites history and purpose.
>>417449
>4chan is a dictatorship, not a democracy.
Is it now? That goes against everything Hiro has said he wants for the site.
I really suggest that you calm down now, though. Take a break from 4chan for a bit, and come back later when your mind and body is refreshed.
It will do a lot of good for your health.
>>417457
Anon, looking in it is besides the point. Both /b/ and /trash/ are random/offtopic boards made to hold topics for everything that doesn't belong elsewhere. /trash/ is a /b/ clone as it serves the same exact fucking purpose as /b/. You could argue things like /r9k/ and /s4s/ are /b/ clones, but at least they have a theme. /trash/ serves the same purpose, its just has a different name.
I wasn't asking for it to be deleted, I was asking what was the fucking point of making it when it is just fucking /b/ with a different name. Instead of moving threads to /trash/, they could of been moved to /b/. In fact, doing this would of been good, as people that aren't normalfag newfags might of started using /b/ again and bring life back to it that isn't fucking porn and facebook shit.
>>417469
I really hope Hiro makes Trash2 and two more /b/ boards just to piss in the cornflakes of people like you.
>>417462
>Nice strawman, I never said that.
I'm pretty sure you did.
When you see text like
>this
That's a quote. That text is pulled from your post.
>/qa/ isn't a community of the site
>>?
>/q/ has already proven that on 4chan, a meta board is the worst place to listen to for change on the site.
And why is that?
>But, you can't deny the fact 4chan is anime focused site
http://www.4chan.org
> 4chan is a simple image-based bulletin board where anyone can post comments and share images. There are boards dedicated to a variety of topics, from Japanese animation and culture to videogames, music, and photography.
Has anime != anime focused, friend.
>>417473
No, no. I know what a quote is, but it seems you lack reading comprehentsion.
>only an /a/utist would support disenfranchising the rest of the site in favor of going back to the moot method of 'only use and listen to what /a/ has to say.'"
I never said anything like this, you little faggot. I said for Hiro to stop listening to a literal minority and to actually listen to the boards of the site. But of course, you'll never admit I said that or that is somehow any good. As you are one of those retards trying to make change to the site that will get you laughed at and told to fuck off anywhere else because its stupid and you just want to take advantage of Hiro's naiveness.
>Has anime != anime focused, friend.
Keep dreaming, newfriend. 4chan isn't going to abandon its root any time soon.
>>417483
>I never said anything like this, you little faggot.
That was black text. That means I said that.
What I said was what was implied by you.
>I said for Hiro to stop listening to a literal minority and to actually listen to the boards of the site. But of course, you'll never admit I said that or that is somehow any good.
Its called a representative government.
Let me ask you something- how many times did moot post on boards other than /a/ or /jp/? How often did he get feedback from the rest of the site?
The answer is "nearly never." Without a centralized forum for putting forth issues, the admin will almost always only listen to the boards he personally frequents. If Hiro is not interested in Automobiles, do you think he'll go to /o/? Probably not.
Ideally Hiro would cycle through each board on a regular basis, but the fact of the matter is that if there's nowhere for every board to be heard, then the only boards that will be heard are the ones hiro decides to pay attention to. /qa/ gives every board an equal voice.
>As you are one of those retards trying to make change to the site that will get you laughed at and told to fuck off anywhere else because its stupid and you just want to take advantage of Hiro's naiveness.
What changes am I trying to make that insult you on such a personal level?
>4chan isn't going to abandon its root any time soon.
I'm pretty sure that if the majority of the site is anti-anime or anime agnostic, it can't actually be considered an anime site. I'm sorry that that hurts you, but anime just isn't that popular anymore.
Most of the older users grew out of it, and the younger users grew up in a time when anime was no longer being shown on television, so they weren't introduced to it at a young age.
Times change, though. I'm sure people thought disco culture would last forever too, and weeb culture definitely won't be the last flash-in-the pan subculture to burn out.
>>416437
Do you like the burger
>>417469
You know, no one has mentioned yet that Futaba has several /b/ boards. Perhaps Hiro is taking an inspiration from this site's roots.
>start using /b/ again and bring life back to it that isn't fucking porn and facebook shit.
lol. Unlikely.
>>416542
Beautifully said
>>417483
From the FAQ:
"4chan is a simple image-based bulletin board where anyone can post comments and share images."
"Different boards are dedicated to different topics"
Fuck off with your forged pics. The FAQ gives us the official version of what 4chan is.
From the FAQ:
Anonymous is not a single person, but rather, represents the collective whole of 4chan. He is a god amongst men.
checkmate
>>417535
Not him, but it's definitely not fabricated.
This is actually who moot sell 4chan to Hiro, so that 4chan could keep its roots in anime/weeb culture.
>>417499
>how many times did moot post on boards other than /a/ or /jp/?
He's posted plenty of times on /sp/, /soc/, /ck/, and /r9k/ before he deleted it. He rarely ever posted on /jp/, BTW.
>>417550
Something from an anime con years ago? Please. The FAQ is what matters.
And let me remind you that moot is GONE, and Hiro has made no moves towards making this site more anime oriented.
>>417243
Aside from /biz/, [s4s] was moot's final board. A board he kept around after April Fool's because he loved it so much. He had faith in [s4s], it could be better than any other board that came before it. Deleting it would be a slap in his face and derail 4chan from its original destiny to become the greatest meme site on the internet. moot knew this.
>>417554
The mods aren't gone yet, and I believe it's Hiro's philosophy too. The other boards also play an important role, but that doesn't change the fact that 4chan's main focus is still anime.
>>417558
Some of them need to go and new ones need to be brought in
>>417558
4chan doesn't have a main focus.
>>417554
>Hiro has made no moves towards making this site more anime oriented
He added /wsr/ which is a primarily anime-focused board.
>>417556
It being moot's final board is all the more reason to get rid of it. It came from a time when he no longer cared about the site and was doing all he could to drag it through the mud.
>>417571
wsr/ is NOT primarily anime-focused, stop making shit up.
He also added /his/, a board that moot refused to create. weaaboos hate that board.
>>417575
>weaaboos hate that board
The fuck are you talking about? I love /his/
>>417575
/wsr/ IS primarily anime-focused, stop making shit up.
>>417578
No. Read the rules for that board and read the sticky. Anime is NOT the primary focus.
>>417575
Moot was a retard who was trying to kill the site. You know what you can discuss on a history board? Japanese history. It's a Japanese board.
>>417581
>Asking for recommendations for a new anime or TV series to watch, or a new manga or comic series to read.
You were saying?
>>417584
You were saying that anime was the PRIMARY focus. It clearly is not.
>>417582
>It's a Japanese board
Oh wow. Look at this guy, what a delusional weeb.
>>417589
So when you're proven wrong you're just gonna change the narrative to suit you. Fuck off and admit defeat.
>>417465
4chan is a dictatorship but with a philosopher king who listens and considers.
At the end of the day, there is no vote. Democracies have problems. People who are the best at talking can sway opinions, and 80% of people are stupid as hell due to the Pareto Principle.
"Dictatorship but with a good dictator" is the best form of government. It's just next to impossible to achieve.
We must have faith in Hiro.
Don't delete dead boards.
Good board additions: /wsr/ and /his/
Lots of people enjoy these.
Just don't make boards that nobody will enjoy, or else there will be more dead boards to deal with.
>>417611
Not to mention the main advertiser sells fucking hentai sex toys
>>417616
I'll start having more faith in him once he deals with the mods and actually hires new ones. See this thread for example >>417380
It seems more and more clear now that we have proof the mods are purposely shitposting up boards they don't like
>>416437
Hiro you need to talk to the mods. You say you want us to bring up complaints on the IRC channels to them, but we've told you the mods have banned people from the channel because they don't want to hear it from us. They also do not check the feedback at all. Hiro you must understand the mods despise the userbase on here, and you need to do something about their attitude. Either tell them to get on board with you if the truly do care about 4chan, or fire them if they continue to go behind your back, which they have been doing time and time again, trying to take advantage of you
>>417623
That really isn't having faith in somebody. That's wanting them to do whatever you want. Having faith is understanding that maybe he has better ways of doing things than you are. "What I want" doesn't necessarily mean "Good." In fact, what you want is probably diametrically opposed to what many other people want.
>>417628
How is what I said not good? You know as well as I do the mods have serious fucking problems. Hiro may or may not be aware of this, and if he is, he doesn't know what to do about it.
>>417630
It doesn't matter what it is that you're saying. I'm uninterested in the substance of your contingency for having faith in Hiro. It isn't faith if it has a contingency. That's more like "Respect" which I don't really care about.
>>417638
And like I said, I'll start believing in him once he fixes the mod problem.
>>417642
You'll find that nobody will ever do everything you want, and when you start getting what you want, you'll start wanting more until Hiro betrays you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill
