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Alright /pol/fags, justify how Hitler was wrong and you capitalists are right when it's obvious that capitalism does not do nearly enough to regulate or stop:
>environmental degradation
>human and animal rights abuses
>exploitation of the working class- where they're literally listed as 'labor resources' in capitalist economics textbooks
>financial sector (the banks) deregulation- with the Federal Reserve's market fundamentalist easy money policies and the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 causing the 2008 crash
>Has caused massive jobs offshoring as Trump has pointed out
>Has caused corporate written and sovereignty destroying free trade agreements to be enacted (NAFTA), proposed (TTIP) and about to be enacted, with large corrupt political support (TPP)
>Jews own everything- the media, Hollywood, Wall Street and the big banks which the economy is reliant upon, the Federal Reserve System, the powerful Israel Lobby which silences anyone who speaks out against their actions against the Palestinians and more then likely- the military industrial complex which caused Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Vietnam, hostilities towards Iran and Russia etc.

If you're not a Third Positionist by now- you're either blue pilled as fuck or you are an inferior Untermensch who cares nothing for human liberty, the conscience, or cultural, social and economic justice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1dv2xkPsz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmzyHuJAzfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-6nrAnDGyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXjgMpEF5hM
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/02/23/whatever-became-economists-american-economy-paul-craig-roberts/
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>>74226222
Fuck off sjw faggot
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>>74226262
The Third Position, Third Way or Third Alternative is a political position that emphasizes its opposition to both communism and capitalism. Advocates of Third Position politics typically present themselves as "beyond left and right", while syncretizing ideas from each end of the political spectrum, usually reactionary right-wing cultural views and radical left-wing economic views.
Political scientist Roger Griffin dismisses Third Positionist claims of being "beyond left and right" as specious. He argues that Third Positionism is an ideological mutation of the far right, which rejects both Marxism and liberalism for a synthesis of palingenetic ultranationalism with either socialism, distributism, corporatism or anarchism.

You are obviously ignorant to reality and political ideologies.
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>>74226749
>You are obviously ignorant to reality and political ideologies.
he's a fucking ameritard in the midst of his shit-hole cesspool nation's death throes -- what do you expect but the rats to do but go down with their bubonic ship?
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>>74226222
> #organize locally
So they are saying we need nationalism?
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>>74227049
America used to prop itself as a developing country due to its protectionist policies in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It was only after World War II that they became excessively capitalist- and now look where that's got them.
Ever since the late 1960s, America has resorted to immoral imperialism militarily and economically.
It has now led to the rise of the Jews.
Hitler may have been our last chance... but if people were truly red pilled and realised capitalism is one of the sources of our problems and turned to national socialism and/or distributism, which was championed by the great GK Chesterton- then we won't have to come to /pol/ to get away from SJW madness- we won't have to confront outside either.
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>>74226749
Agreed. Hitler did it right, international third position is only way forward.
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>>74226222
Most retarded shitpost I've seen on /pol/ today, and I've been browsing all day while sick in bed. Congrats and kill yourself.
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>>74227336
We need a unification of Western cultures around the world to rise and expel world Jewry- just like many other societies throughout the past centuries and millenniums have.
Unless we allow yet another Jewish evil to conquer us when the economy collapses this year, we will be no better then the supposed 'gas chamber deaths' which is forced down our throats in school history classes and general society.
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>>74227504
it was only after WW2 that they became an an hoc empire by default -- greed runs rampant in societies where power is centralised and its tenets cosset limitless accretion of wealth in the hands of the few
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>>74227654
Glad there's someone on /pol/ today with a degree of sense and logical thinking.
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>>74226222
I think you're still a bit off. Third position isn't either/or like this. Natsoc was capitalist, and redefined socialism to have no economic critique or class concerns like Marxism had. It really wasn't socialism as we know it to be, an economic model. It was "social", pure and simple.

ACTUALLY READ MEIN KAMPF. Hitler has concepts of "jewish capitalism" and "jewish socialism", and he believed they worked together to destroy Europeans because in both cases they served Jewish interests, ie, the destruction of the races Jews felt threatened by.

>“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency.
>Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”
-- Adolf Hitler 1938

Hitler = FDR ancap fuccbois:
>http://townhall.com/columnists/brucebartlett/2004/01/16/hitler_and_keynes
>http://www.jstor.org/stable/4401913?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
>https://mises.org/library/three-new-deals-why-nazis-and-fascists-loved-fdr
https://youtu.be/pKnFN8P21-0
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>>74226222
>Soon the Jew became the leader of the battle against himself. I am speaking figuratively when I say “against himself” because the “great master of lies” always succeeds in making himself seem innocent and throwing the blame on others. Since he had the audacity to lead the masses himself, it never occurred to the people that this could be the most legendary fraud of all time...
>Without being aware of it, the laborer is put to work for the very power that he believes he is fighting against. He is led to believe he is acting against capitalism, and therefore he is easily made to fight for capitalism. The cry is heard against international capital, but the real target is the national economy. The current economy must be destroyed so that the international stock exchange can replace it on the corpse-strewn battlefield, with Jewish financial world interests.

>To achieve his goal, the Jew proceeds as follows: he creeps up on the workers in order to win their confidence, pretending to have compassion for their poverty and circumstances or even anger at their miserable lot in life. He is careful to study all the real or even their imagined problems. Then he arouses the desire for change. With infinite shrewdness, he stirs up the urge for (((SOCIAL JUSTICE))), an innate desire that is sleeping within every Aryan. Once the fire is burning, the Jew turns it into hatred toward those more fortunate and puts the stamp of a very special World-Concept on the battle; he builds a philosophy designed to correct social injustice. He founds the Marxist doctrine.

--Mein Kampf

Sound like anyone you know?
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>>74227732
You've contributed no logical criticisms to my arguments and you call me retarded and say I should kill myself.
You should probably stay in bed where you belong you weak Untermensch blue-pilled cuck.
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Still the highest standard of living in the world
That's nothing to sniff at
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>>74227732
this your input into any conversation outside of how a gun barrel can be inserted into the rectum them deep-throated clean, is null and void

>end yourself -- your already dead anyway
>at least go out with a semblance of dignity
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>>74227793
That's very true- but at the same time, the answer to the despair we see in modern society right now and the rapidly occurring white genocide- is for authoritarian measures to stand up against this tyranny in which our women are short skirt wearing, selfie taking, moral-less and indoctrinated feminists, in which the impending economic collapse will shatter the stock market, the bond market and the US dollar, and in which can all be traced back to the Jewish elitist who acts as they do due to their inherent nature (though I don't believe all Jews are this way).
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>>74227904
It had elements of capitalism- such as private property which I absolutely champion and the means of production were not entirely privately owned but not entirely publicly owned either- which I think is a fair balance.
I still think that despite the good quotes and links you posted, it doesn't justify how bad capitalism has been for us and the destruction of our own culture via imperialist measures taken by the Jews who own our system (such as Islam) and the subsequent rage against the West by them, which- because of the promotion of open border policies by Jews, will inevitably lead to the destruction of Caucasians, Christians and the triumph of Jewry.
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>>74227979
That is a rather ignorant comment.
You obviously have no idea about the impending crash this year or the ramifications of the 2008 crash for the long-term.
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>>74228237
the 'fall of females' is a natural evolutionary inevitability as we approach 'singularity', where reproduction can be tailored and vetted. the canary in the coal mine, in the increasing irrelevancy of the male-female relationship dynamic, is unarguably proof of said eventuality.

i would not preoccupy myself with ploys and wiles of females in their relevancy death throes -- it's a wholly hormone-fuelled distraction that most would grow out of in their late teens were sex not such a taboo in societies underpinned by puritanism.

>females were the 'telegraph'
>the future is optical fibre
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Basically, in a nutshell, Hitler said the unifying aims of both "Jewish finance capitalism" and "Jewish communism" were "internationalism", and the destruction of nations. Communism had the stated goal of seeing class conflict everywhere, in ever nation; thus, the revolution was to be exported everywhere. International capitalism saw every nation as a "market", to be opened and exploited internationally.

National socialism stood against internationalism as a means of destroying unique peoples (Germans, British, etc). Thus, he had to create alternatives, because these supposedly opposite ideas of capitalism and communism were actually serving international zionism. He redefined socialism and capitalism to be purely nationalistic, serving the people of the country it was practiced in first (Germany first, etc).

In practice, it was just capitalism with and Keynesean flavor, only Hjalmar Schact pulled it off better than FDR did.

>>74228617
>I still think that despite the good quotes and links you posted, it doesn't justify how bad capitalism has been for us and the destruction of our own culture via imperialist measures taken by the Jews
You're still confusing "jewish capitalism" with "all capitalism". Natsoc capitalism was production oriented, not "pure investment and profit", with no work or personal investment. People could own anything and seek maximum profit, but the enterprise had to have a productive purpose. You couldn't just start an investment bank, buy land, then sit on it until the real estate market was high, while people we homeless because prices were too high.

Jews like to invest, play middlemen, do no work, just buy and sell. Just "move money around". They produce nothing that way, its just tricks on paper and usury.

Capitalism as it was practiced early on was not exploitative; the nation was the foundation. Jews split its elements into profit and community, and set them as opposites; Europeans don't naturally have such extremes or opposites.
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>>74228854
Whilst I agree that chasing women is a hormone-fuelled distraction and has led to our incredibly depressing amount of STDs, abortions and general degeneracy- I believe that our generations girls influences such as Nicki Minaj, Miley Cyrus and the Kardashians/Jenners to name a few, will lead to our own families- our sisters, daughters, nieces and cousins to be inflicted with this Jew-backed degeneracy and with women far more likely to vote progressive over conservative, whereas men are mixed- a change in women's influences is essential to a free and moral society in which clean and good women are present, unlike the piercing and tattooed millennial women we have today.
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>>74226222
>taking out loans
>pissed when you can't meet your side of your mutually agreed upon and willfully signed contract
SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME FROM ALL THIS OPPRESSION PLEASE
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High finance and Communism are two ends of the same snake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MYPzKNQUE0
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>>74227504

Your the reason why all international shitposters should be banned.

When you got a rogue country like Germany barbarically gassing and killing children, with countries like Italy and Japan being cool about it, and if you had the power to stop it, you would want to reign supreme on the planet too out of logic.

It's not our fault the rest of the world is incompetent, even till this day.

The entire world owes the US everything from us creating their entire infrastructure.

The world owes the US everything.
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>>74229146
And the discrepancy between 'Jewish finance capitalism' and 'capitalism' is?
I appreciate your summaries, but I still don't see how a National Socialist or Distributist economic system would not be more favourable then a Capitalist one- the latter of which has done untold damage due to deregulation and unregulated and unchecked practices. The destructive foreign and economic policies will end with the end of Western culture and the white race as we know it if we do not overthrow these slimy fucks and retake honour for our women, our country or our race... or more simply- our people.
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>>74229676
>thinks people were gassed
Proofs?

>David Cole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os0eldMv-wE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxAvpvz_4wQ
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>>74229392
What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>74229393
I agree
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>>74229790
>And the discrepancy between 'Jewish finance capitalism' and 'capitalism' is?
I just wrote several paragraphs trying to summarize it for you. You're going to have to read Mein kampf and the programme of the NSDAP, or you're always going to suffer from this error. Furthermore, you're going to wind up arguing for communism, while thinking you're arguing "third position". Just trying to set you straight. You have to do some studying.

>Gottfried Feder - The Program Of The NSDAP The National Socialist Workers' Party And Its General Conceptions
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFeder_TheProgramOfTheNSDAP
>Gottfried Feder - Das Programm der NSDAP (Deutsch)
https://archive.org/details/Feder-Gottfried-Das-Programm-der-NSDAP
>Gottfried Feder - Manifesto For The Abolition Of Interest Slavery
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederManifestoForTheAbolitionOfInterestSlavery1919
>Gottfried Feder The German State On A National And Socialist Foundation
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederTheGermanStateOnANationalAndSocialistFoundation

>Arthur Bryant - Unfinished Victory (1940)
>Prominent British historian writes a fairly objective prehistory of WWII
https://archive.org/details/ArthurBryantUnfinishedVictory1940V1

>William Joyce – Twilight Over England
>Twilight Over England compared the evils of Jewish-dominated capitalist Britain with the successes of National Socialist Germany.
https://archive.org/details/WilliamJoyceTwilightOverEngland
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>environmental degradation

A non-issue

>human and animal rights abuses

Compared to communism even unregulated capitalism is great.

>exploitation of the working class- where they're literally listed as 'labor resources' in capitalist economics textbooks

Those who put in intellectual effort and capital are putting in just as much if not more effort and energy as the physical laborers.

>financial sector (the banks) deregulation- with the Federal Reserve's market fundamentalist easy money policies and the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 causing the 2008 crash

Capitalism with regulation is possible and is actually advocated by Hayek.

>Has caused massive jobs offshoring as Trump has pointed out

That's free trade, capitalism can exist with protectionism. (See the economic policies that made America great in the first place)

>Has caused corporate written and sovereignty destroying free trade agreements to be enacted (NAFTA), proposed (TTIP) and about to be enacted, with large corrupt political support (TPP)

Again, Anti-free trade capitalism can and does exist.

>Jews own everything- the media, Hollywood, Wall Street and the big banks which the economy is reliant upon, the Federal Reserve System, the powerful Israel Lobby which silences anyone who speaks out against their actions against the Palestinians and more then likely- the military industrial complex which caused Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Vietnam, hostilities towards Iran and Russia etc.

They do this because they are a collectivist group of intelligent people, if whites were as collectivist in nature as the Jew no such problem would exist.
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>>74226222
>people failing to fulfill their responsibilities as per contract is the fault of something else rather than owning up to the fact they fault their end of obligations as per contractual law

WEW LAD!
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>>74229813

jews were not "gassed"
it was not a gas
it was cyanide mixed with water to produce poison water and poison water vapor
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>>74229676
You truly are blue pilled beyond belief and/or a complete imbecile.

>Germany barbarically gassing and killing children
Oy Vey! I see you totally believe the Holohoax myths.

>The world owes the US everything
Believe me, the US is incredibly unpopular among other cultures thanks to the elitists ruling your country- namely the Jews and Freemasons
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>>74230065
Proof?

>http://germarrudolf.com/germars-views/202-some-technical-and-chemical-considerations-about-the-gas-chambers-of-auschwitz-and-birkenau/
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>>74229898
The fuck is this nigga taking about? Did he know dinosaurs? A meteor hit the planet
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>>74226222
Hitler just intended to let "inferior peoples" subdued by war carry all the said burdens of capitalism for the sake of german nation. For some unknown reason "inferior peoples" didnt wanted to do it and fucked him over, so fuck you.
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>>74230243
Why is there never one Russian shitposter who doesn't believe his nation's own propaganda 100%?

You're worse than bluepilled americans. At least some of us know the truth.
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>>74226222
It works exactly as it's intended to. Noncontributors fail at life, and therefore fail to live. It's the lazy dickbags who never work but still eat who are an actual problem, and that has everything to do with the Socialism mixed into our system.
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>>74229813
David Cole is pretty good.
David Irving is my personal favourite.
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>>74229205
feminism is the last gasp offshoot of a dying gender -- literally turning upon itself is a futile effort to re-establish relevancy in the looming reality of redundancy

it should be viewed with pity, not disdain... like a squirming chick fallen from the nest, gasping for its last breaths in the rain-sodden floor below
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>>74228854
>as we approach 'singularity'
KURZWEILLLLLLLLLLL
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>>74229949
Cheers for the links yet again.

>you're going to wind up arguing for communism, while thinking you're arguing "third position"
Believe me, I despise communism.
Human liberty must exist- but there cannot be the wide amount of degeneracy that exists in society today and which the modern conservative movement are total beta fucks whom do nothing to stop the genocide of unborn humans or our women turned into sexualised and moral-less shadows of their conscience.

Btw I hate atheism and secularism is at the core of Communism.
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>>74230191
xyklon b pelets were mixed with water in showers
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>>74230965
And all that is true, but it has nothing to do with production, ownership, or selling for profit. Capitalism isn't in itself an evil thing; in fact, there are no other functional or logical forms of economics. Even Communism requires either pre-existing capitalism or external capitalist nations, or it dies out. Just because you've seen deformed capitalism in your lifetime, doesn't mean that healthy capitalism isn't good. Capitalism is essentially abstracted meritocracy; NatSoc was all about meritocracy.
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>>74226222
> I SHOULD BE THE ONE MANAGING YOUR RESOURCES, NOT YOU!
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>>74231145
Were they?
You ever gonna prove any of this shit, or watch the videos and read the links I keep handing you to debunk the shit your spraying?

Nope, probably not.

Enjoy your bluepills friendo.
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>>74231275

>your
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>>74231276

>shills
>debunking

>showers
>not water
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>>74226222
>capitalism sucks
>list off a bunch of shit wrong with mercantilism
Retard
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>>74231483
>mixing zyklon b with water
worse bullshit than "it came through a hole in the ceiling, into a gas chamber at the end of a rollercoaster ride"
>oy vey! I was gaysed FAIVE TOYMS!
I survived each one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os0eldMv-wE
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>>74230965
>Human liberty must exist
>But not the kind I don't like, reee fags and hookup culture and abortions waaaa
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>>74226222
>18 million poverty related deaths
>99% of them are in non-capitalist countries
>capitalism is the problem
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>>74229960
>environmental degradation
>A non-issue
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/shell-oil-spill-gulf-mexico_us_57353058e4b060aa7819ee00
http://www.labor4sustainability.org/articles/5-reasons-why-the-keystone-pipeline-is-bad-for-the-economy/
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/forests/amazon-rainforest/
There just some examples off the top of my head. It is totally ignorant to label it as a 'non-issue'.

>human and animal rights abuses
>Compared to communism even unregulated capitalism is great.

What the fuck does this have to do with making sure humans are not fucked over by governments or corporations or making sure animals aren't an INDUSTRY in which their MASS SLAUGHTER occurs?! If anything unregulated capitalism is the WORST system for this issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJovxS9-RTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBOAPleF1t0

>exploitation of the working class- where they're literally listed as 'labor resources' in capitalist economics textbooks
>Those who put in intellectual effort and capital are putting in just as much if not more effort and energy as the physical laborers.

You obviously know nothing about the lack of class mobility and extraordinary income inequality in capitalist societies over the past few decades- even centuries. Whilst I do not like Bernie- he addresses the insane amount of screwing that the worker gets by the elitist powers of capitalism. It's not just about being intellectual or putting in more effort, it's about a fair system that has survival of the fittest, but at the moment- you have a lot of fit Aryans in terrible conditions and a lot of weak, but cunning Jews in ultra-wealthy conditions.
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>>74229960
>financial sector (the banks) deregulation- with the Federal Reserve's market fundamentalist easy money policies and the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 causing the 2008 crash
>Capitalism with regulation is possible and is actually advocated by Hayek.
>Has caused massive jobs offshoring as Trump has pointed out
>That's free trade, capitalism can exist with protectionism. (See the economic policies that made America great in the first place)
>Has caused corporate written and sovereignty destroying free trade agreements to be enacted (NAFTA), proposed (TTIP) and about to be enacted, with large corrupt political support (TPP)
>Again, Anti-free trade capitalism can and does exist.

This proves my point if anything. All this requires regulations on capitalism. Yet all of these things have occurred because of DEREGULATION and UNREGULATED PRACTICES by UNACCOUNTABLE PEOPLE who allow THE PEOPLE TO BE EXPLOITED FOR THE PURSUIT OF PROFIT- A CORE ELEMENT OF CAPITALISM!

>Jews own everything- the media, Hollywood, Wall Street and the big banks which the economy is reliant upon, the Federal Reserve System, the powerful Israel Lobby which silences anyone who speaks out against their actions against the Palestinians and more then likely- the military industrial complex which caused Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Vietnam, hostilities towards Iran and Russia etc.
>They do this because they are a collectivist group of intelligent people, if whites were as collectivist in nature as the Jew no such problem would exist.

The solution is to expel the Jew from Western cultures.
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>>74230031
English, please
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>>74230220
Yeah, Michael Moore is a Jew-created, freedom undermining libshit
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>>74230243
Putin should expel you
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>>74230342
True
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>>74230550
I don't like the welfare state either- social Darwinism is the way to go!
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>>74230699
Yeah, that image you attached is frightening and totally reflective of modern society.
Third-wave feminism is a cancerous ideology.
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>>74231194
The means of production need to be shared between public and private.
Electricity, gas, public transport, telecommunications, a few news stations, the police etc. should all be nationalised, but also things like our education system need major overhauls so we chuck out the Marxist indoctrination out of them. Furthermore, we need greater control over the medical industry with the push for GMOs and mandatory vaccines are of course Jew-pushed as they own that field. Furthermore, everything that is essential to human development should be at least regulated- if not nationalised so Jewry cannot thrive.
At the same time, I don't at all advocate for public ownership of the means of production and no markets- just a centrally planned command economy, like Communists do.
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>>74231275
Well, would you rather me manage it or you 'manage' it but the Jews control it?
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>>74231506
You have nothing logical to contribute to this discussion
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>>74231826
Go and embrace social liberalism and cultural Marxism- where your own race and culture will inevitably be destroyed. Good goy!
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>>74231883
Clearly wasn't all in non-capitalist countries, fucking hell- some of the Yanks on /pol/ are fuckwits
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