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give me one reason why we should save modern white people? >liberal
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give me one reason why we should save modern white people?

>liberal
>socialists
>entitled
>women are whores
>men are betta
>fat
>feminism
>marxism
>atheism
>giving up their nationality
>globalists
>believe in jew lies
>entitlement
>consumerists
>individualists without regard for social cohesion
>multiculturalism
>refugess are welcome
>no sense of national pride

>inb4 romans were the same as modern whites
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>>74036962
WE KNOW ALL OF THIS WHY DO YOU THINK WE WANT OFF THIS RIDE
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>>74036962
Yep, thats exactly why Im moving to Thailand by the end of the summer. I just want to watch feminist white women and beta nu-male hipsters burn at the hands of their failed liberal experiments at this point. I have no desire to save the west anymore.
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>>74036962
>Colombia
How's it going in that drug infested slum?
You jealous of how good western culture treats it's inhabitants?
How the white race invented pretty much EVERYTHING modern.
How the white race came and colonized countries who hadn't even reached the dark ages to "help" them in pretty much every way. (Why can't you just be like Japan and get your shit together?)

Despite all that there are some points I agree on:
>Feminism
>Marxism
>Jew lies
>refugees are welcome
>Beta cuck males
>No sense of nation pride (in some places)

But all that can be fixed, and it sure beats living in some tribe, shitting in a bucket whilst being high as a kite. And then resort to rape because you're to ugly and unhygienic for anyone to love.
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Because most people are sheep and don't think about anything. They believe what they have been taught. It's not entirely their fault, is what I'm saying. They just need to have their eyes opened.
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>>74037876
>scandi nigger claiming greek and italian culture as it's own
hilarious as fuck brotha.
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I'm tired of trying to save people who don't want to be saved, due to their own stupidity
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Move to Russia they're no pussies
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Not all whites are leftist race traitors.
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>>74038199
Jews.
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>>74038038
>Scandi nigger
Well Greek and Italian culture still is European culture. And that is the culture which pretty much made the world it's bitch.
>Colombia, National language, Spanish.
Would you look at that?
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>>74036962
>we

how about you sit in your corner and remain irrelevant

even if you used your entire countires influental and diplomatic power you probably couldnt effect the price of ice cream never mind do any sort of race saving
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>>74038549
meditarrean europeans != scandis
or do you forget how you also claim greeks aren't whites based on their DNA?

>>74038576
we == pol
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>>74036962
Because the alternative is niggers, spics, or American Indians
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>>74036962
Most of the problems in South America have little to do with kikes. Either we have the good kikes, or these kikes haven't yet tried any of their classic tricks. Most of our populations everywhere are highly anti-kike anyway, so I don't they would have any opportunity to attempt something in the first place.

Our problem is populism and niggers. We get rid of those problems and then it's a matter of time.
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>>74038725

Proud spic /pol/ack reporting in.
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>>74036962
What once was could be again.

There was never better.
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You know most of those problems are because they were born in generations of Jewish and leftist media and education since the 60s.
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>>74038670
Never said that Mediterranean Europeans were Scandinavian. (Still beats being Colombian)
And what's wrong with taking something that makes for a great foundation for improving human society and lifestyle.
"Whites" took greek and italian culture, turned it into something great that colonized the whole fucking world. Forced the Japs and Chinese to get their shit together. Took over the Americas and Africa. English is the biggest Universal language, and where did that come from? Oh yes, a white society.

Have fun being jealous in your little rundown slum of a country that hasn't got a language of it's own. Continue to be other societies and cultures's bitch.
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>>74036962
Now, now, h-hold on a second. Have white people been selected for extinction by nature, or is this the result of human interference? I mean, could and race have withstood these circumstances? It's also possible that in the long term, the surviving whites will be a much stronger people, having been selected for in an extremely hostile environment. The weak whites will be absorbed into already weak groups, or at least ones incapable of thriving without being able to leech off of the achievements of civilization, or the sale of oil.
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>>74039293
So you take over greek and italian culture, same as us, right?

do you think I think only white people can be westerners?

hilarious sempai.

Western culture no longers need white people to thrive.

>>74039302
All other cultures are basically diferent shades of western culture with their traditional shit mixed at this point.
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We should not and can not.

White people abandoned God and so God abandoned them.

The West is in its final days.
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>>74039599
I do believe white people betrayed God, so God now is punishing them.
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>>74039293
Still Colombians are the biggest exporters of the top quality degeneracy powder in the west, with Peru close behind them, while consuming little on their own, if any at all. Quite the big fuck you, if you think about it.

>>74039599
I say this on a daily basis here. They actually abandoned tradition and culture, mostly from Christianity, leaving a gaping wound where diseases such as Marxism, feminism, Islam and the likes will enter and spread havoc.
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>>74039534
Only white people can be "westerners"..
Scandinavia embodied western culture a looooong time ago, and it wasn't because our country was being run over. It was because leaders and kings realized that Christianity was the best religion to have to be able to gain order and power, not because they actually believed in it themselves.
Has Colombia really got a cultural history of it's own? Are you really that proud of living in huts throwing spears and shit at each other to then get completely fucked by western forces?

Like, there's nothing to be proud of when it comes to Colombia esse.

>>74039670
There is no god, stop being a gullible little shit.
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>>74039976
Have you ever been to Columbia?
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>>74040030
yes I have, only good thing about Colombia is it's Nature.
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>>74040157
>>74039976
I can be proud of fucking your mom in the ass with my donkey dick fucktard.

;)
Do you think it's my fault colombia is shit?

I'm trying to better myself, and I'm sure I'm better than the 80-90% of """"superior"""" white people.

At least I don't brag about dead people and other people archievements.

;)
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>>74039599
This
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>>74040322
>Using smileys and coming with a typical 12yo mom counter.
So you haven't got anything relevant to add?
You done?
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>>74040494
What do you want me to do fucktard?

Do you think it's my fault to be born as mestizo and be born in colombia?

What do you want me to do?
To magically change my country history?

There's a shit ton of non whites that are trying to be the best they can and it's pretty insulting that you come to us:

sorry, but white trash is more western than you simply because your skin color.

fuck off fucktard.
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>>74040157
I enjoyed Cartagena's architecture, food, and women--I guess you can included the last one with 'nature'. Also, Bolivarian history has interesting lessons, and experiments in government. Bolivar was not a moron. The simply fact is that SA has been burdened by a relatively low average IQ, so high functioning western political systems have had a hard time catching on, and staying afloat. Race isn't the problem in SA per se, IQ is, NOT to suggest that the two are unrelated, but rather that if you solve the IQ problem there, racial politics are such that they would actually be able to function despite racial diversity--that is one of the unappreciated strengths, I'd say even a unique strength, of Latin America.
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>>74040494
And Sweden, you don't get to condescend anyone--not anymore. You can criticize, but you're too fucked up to be smug. Your shit talking privileges are revoked until you sort out your own problems.
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>>74036962
I don't want to save the west in it's current form, this is why I'm adamant we NEED a war. Life has just got too easy for people, they take everything for granted. In history when that was happening in Europe, we had a war, it restored humility & people realised life isn't this eternal thing & acted like human fucking beings.

A war will do us good. It will change us for the better.
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>>74040688
yeah, we're kind of sorting our shit and it's pretty cool to see all the commie shit falling apart so fast now.
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>>74040684
You're the one who started the thread with: give me one reason why we should save modern white people?
You are the one who started the "race" discussion.
>There's a shit ton of non whites that are trying to be the best they can and it's pretty insulting that you come to us
What?
>sorry, but white trash is more western than you simply because your skin color.
Again, what?
>>74040791
That's what's happening right now, the leftscum parties have fuck up majorly, people are pissed, and in the next election, the "racist" party will be one of the biggest political parties.
Sweden will bounce back, don't worry.
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>>74041049
yeah, I ask again:
why should modern white people be saved if modern white people are considered extremelly degenerated by other cultures?

I've seen colombians talking how europeans are fucking degenerated and talking surprised how degenerated are u people.
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>>74040157
>Doesn't even speak Spanish.
You sound like a Sambo. If you have been to Colombia and couldn't find anything better than their geography, first you must be gay, and second you haven't been to Colombia at all. I'd gladly pick a lifetime in Colombia over the death penalty that's living in Sweden , no offense.

>>74040688
This post sums it all up. I still blame blacks, because all areas in SA with a predominant black/black-admixed population are also the worst.
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I understand that white people want to be really compassionate and more inclusive. I can see how this kind of empathy can lead to some problems.

What I don't understand is how whites can CHEER for their dwindling influence. They actually get happy when non-whites start moving into their countries en-mass, taking positions of power and influence etc. Its like what the FUCK is wrong with white people? Its not that they allow it, they CHEER for it and want it. the fuck. It seems like a borderline mental illness
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>>74041049
Oh, there's not doubt in my mind that there is going to be a violent volkish reaction in Sweden. I'm just offering a friendly check, and reminding you that the Swedes' tendency toward a smug sense of superiority is what fueled some of this leftist utopianism in the first place--the idea that Swedes are just sooo great, and have all the best answers, and could convert 75 IQ sand eaters to their superior way of life. Just watch the smug, if you can have one take away from this whole experience.
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>>74041268
It's disgusting how whites are desperate for their own extinction.

I can only feel pity for europeans.
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>>74041249
I was there on vacation... why would I need to learn a whole new language if I'm just going on a vacation.
And if you'd prefer to live in a rundown slum that's up to you.
>>74041244
Well Quasimodo's have a tendency to be angry towards people and countries who have it better of/a better system. And pretty much every western and eastern asian countries see south american countries as pretty fucking degenerate. Maybe you should stop talking shit about others whilst fucking your donkey and lok at yourself.
I know that sweden is cucked beyond belief atm, that's why I'm doing sometihng about it, but atm there is some time until the next election, sadly.

>>74041294
All I'm doing is pointing out the errors in his statements, he's the one who started the reace discussion and all I did was make him look at himself before talking shit about others who actually are better of.
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>>74041785
I have a pretty comfy life, not first world but nice.
I have internet, can fap to porn with 10MB internet, going to college and learning CS, food to eat, friends.

What else do I need?
Material shit?

lmao, enjoy your more expensive quality of life.

>le donkey shit
nice meme retard.
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The only modern people worth saving are Asians ans Mexicans. Basically fuck everyone else.
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>>74036962
Me in the middle.
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>>74041939
And that is exactly why Colombia will stay a shittier country. That attitude will keep NIC countries down.

>Enjoy your more expensive quality of life.
It's a better life, better education, better healthcare, more opportunities. I have a job that pays well. I can do so much more.

Why not strive to become better, to live better?
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>>74042324
I can't change my country history.

can't you read the part I'm doing my best to improve my life?

also the other arguments are relative, I can life a nice and comfy life here.
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>>74042436
and you just lost the argument, well it was fun playing.
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Modern white people are sort of like a child with a life threatening disease. Do you pull the plug? Or do you keep hope alive that they will get through it and grow up to be healthy?

Don't let the Zionist shills and propagandists influence you. The white race is currently sick but the solution is not to wish for our extermination, but a cure.
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>>74042585
yeah, feel proud while being fucking sweden.
I guess it's nice to know my country isn't as cucked as yourself.

feels nice that my country is pretty nationalistic as fuck.
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Yeah white people should be watered down to be ideal. Asians, Jews, Hispanic and even a splash of Nigger is ok, but the true curse is Mudslimes.
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>>74041785
>And if you'd prefer to live in a rundown slum that's up to you.
What the fuck are you talking about? lol
You mean the western coast of Colombia that's filled with niggers? That's not even the Colombia I've seen, nor do I want to see it. You clearly haven't been to Colombia and you're just trying to project here like every other Swede on /pol/ trying to drown their insecurities by bashing a country you *think* it's worse than the living hellhole you're currently stuck in.

>>74042324
Everything you wrote here should be written in the past form. It used to be a better, now it isn't. Living with the daily stress of being murdered or having your loved ones killed by extremists, watching the news and always seeing your women and children being raped, how is that even a better life? That's hell. You clearly know nothing about Colombia and you're the one being a monkey sambo, throwing shit everywhere thinking you're being a smartass making use of generalized stereotypes that don't even apply to Colombia at all.
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One good reason? Because it's what my heart desires.

But it's difficult being a nationalist today. You feel so impotent, and you start to hate your own people. Why bother trying to save those who do not want to be saved? As the saying goes: you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. You start to think that if your people are this fucking stupid, this mentally cucked, this unfit for survival, then maybe they should be culled, in accordance with the eternal laws of nature.

How to avoid succumbing to misanthropy and resentment?
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>>74038018
>Iknowthetruth.jpeg

It must be nice being on the right side of history. :)
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>>74039670
https://youtu.be/PfPdtfbPsRw

how could someone living in the modern time, still believe in a magical men sitting in the clouds?

religion is the poorest way to describe our world.
besides this, it is also to manipulate dumb humans like you and use them as marionettes.

open your fucking eyes and stop being a subhuman.
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>>74043410
You don't have to believe in it. You just need to maintain your traditions. Protestants here are taught we have the duty to carry the word of God, given to us by the Israelites but our ancestors were the ones who really fought to spread said words. They were the chosen ones to receive it, we were the chosen ones to deliver it. And I'm an atheist, but maintaining this tradition is the driving engine that makes me proud of being Protestant, regardless if I believe in it or not.

I go to the Church, I've read the bible, I pray when I wake up and before going to bed. Do I believe in God? Nope. But I've maintained the same customs my ancestors have preserved for over a thousand years.

Simply perceiving it as a "magical man sitting in the clouds" and that "it is also to manipulate dumb humans like you and use them as marionettes" makes you the actual subhuman in this equation, for dehumanizing your own ancestors and those who fought for your very existence today.
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>>74044252
You shouldn't defend religion after you have already disgraced it.
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>>74044572
>You
They. We've been doing our part by maintaining the largest practicing Protestant population since the first German immigrants arrived, and we remain an overwhelming majority, with Christians still the 99.9%, and it will remain that way because we leave no space for heretics. It hasn't changed the slightest.

The reason you have degeneracy in the west is the lack of tradition, and that was mostly from Christianity. As I've said before, you left a gaping wound where Christianity used to be, leaving an open space for degenerate/foreign influences to settle in.
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>>74044934
You don't even believe in God. Now you're going to tell me about values? While living in Brazil? Gtfo of here.
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>>74045070
A matter of time before the ad-hominem started. This nigger. lol
You just lost the argument, therefore personal attacks.
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>>74036962
You hit the nail on the head OP.

Niggers blame whitely for their dysfunction. Whites blame Jews. That's why the right keeps losing, they externalize blame on others, rather then internalize blame and snip their Liberal problem in the butt.
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>>74045152
Nah I won the argument :^)
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>>74043410
I'm not a Hellenic pagan, but I will read my children Greek mythology. I'm not a Christian, but I will reach my children the Bible. I'm not a virgin, but I'll read my children Tolkien. I'll even teach them a bit if Islam when they're a little older so they can make sense of the war.

Westerners have made the mistake of erasing their philosophical heritage along with their religious heritage. Can don't even learn our foundational stories anymore--the mythology that informs out moral intuitions. We've replaced it with inane pop culture. Tolkien was right when he said that the story of Jesus is essentially the perfect story, the perfect myth that has ever possible feature of a great story. It's criminal to not even READ it just because we don't believe it anymore.
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>>74045232
Indeed. The problem with most of the right-wing is that even though they are going against left-wing causes, they are doing it with left-wing thought patterns. Hence the cancerous stuff like men's rights activism (basically bizarro-feminism) and NatSocs blaming Jews for all their ills.

When you blame another group for your ills, you are implicitly admitting their superiority, and depriving yourself of agency. This leaves you feeling victimised, feeling sorry for yourself. Then you've already lost.
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>>74045739
>they are doing it with left-wing thought patterns

explain
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>>74045152
you lost pretty fucking hard.
>>74042830
1. I have been to Colombia
2. Not insecure. Not even a little
3. Sweden a hell hole? Topkek
4. If I clearly know nothing about Colombia, how can you know so much about Sweden when you've never been here.
> believing the all the media
Life in Sweden is fucking sweet dude, and as I mentioned before, There will be a uprising in sweden, a big "racists" backlash.
5. Not stuck, not at all, can move pretty much where ever I please, you see, not a corrupt country like yours,we've actually got a steady economy without slums every 10km.
6. Daily stress of being murderd or having my loved ones killed by extremists. Not even close.
7. There are more murders pc in Brazil than there is in Sweden, don't even.

Nice try cunt, go fuck a cactus won't you.
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because we would be saving ourselfs and the future of the world.
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Because if we don't we become africa.
I try so fucking hard to get the whites to stop being so self-hating but holy fuck this marxist shit has a loop-de-loop for every angle.
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>>74041939
Lol fuck off third world
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>>74036962
>Atheism, giving up their nationality, globalists, multiculturalism, no sense of cultural pride.

What is bad in all that? They can choose in what believe, they dont need their nationality if they dont care about it, globalists is inevitable, multiculturalism is not wrong, and why you need national pride?
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>>74040863
war though? war wont even be the same anymore. drone strikes, robots, robot tanks, nukes. you'll never see a war like ww2 again. war as we know it is over. it will only be known as who can kill more civilians
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>how can you know so much about Sweden when you've never been here.
The amount of butthurt and projecting you transmit throughout Reddit and 4chan easily tells.
>There will be a uprising in sweden, a big "racists" backlash.
Good, let's wait and see.
>corrupt country like yours,we've actually got a steady economy without slums every 10km.
Yes, the Swedish government is extremely corrupt. If your politicians are using power to control you and perform experiments, yes, they are the very worst kind of corrupt.
>Favela meme
Pic related is the view form my office. You mean those isolated areas that are exclusive to Rio's coastline and São Paulo's poorest districts?
>There are more murders pc in Brazil than there is in Sweden, don't even.
You mean the conflicts between drug dealers and the police that only occur in the above mentioned areas that don't even affect the average population? Or the crime-ridden hellhole that is northeastern Brazil? Pick if, if you have any knowledge regarding either.

Again you're sprawling out with meme jokes widely used throughout the internet. First with Colombia, now with Brazil. Because you deny the fact that you have a serious problem, and therefore you need to personally attack an individual while still lacking any real knowledge on our current situation.

I'm from Rio Grande do Sul, although I do cluster myself with Latin Americans, regardless of what my kinsmen may think about it. We do have many problems, and we also recognize those problems and we're aiming towards a solution. We're not blaming whitey, we're not blaming the kikes. We blame ourselves. And that's exactly why we're changing for the best, while you're changing for the worst.
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i don't do it for them, i do it for my ancestors
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>>74044252
Man, you are ridiculous. I get that you still go to church and read the bible, but you pray? One think is believing that God heards you when you pray, another is being alone in a room talking to the void because is tradition. Proud of being protestant, what a joke.
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>>74048424
Except I have a family.
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>>74036962
I can't.

t. white person
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>>74038734
Jews can't hide as easily among shitskins as they can among white people. They live in our fucking countries and pretend to BE us while shitting all over everything.
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>>74048660
But man, you dont need to pray. You can close your eyes when you are around your family, and when you are alone you dont need to fake. Is just stupid.
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>>74047782
So you haven't read what I've said before..
>actually believing that the Swedish government is more corrupt than the Brazilian one
You what?
>blaming a specific area of your country
I can do that too, the only area that is really bad when it comes to immigrants and immigrant related gang violence is in Malmö. far far south, the rest of the country really hasn't got a problem when it comes to immigration.
For example up north, you hardly see immigrants. So your information is completely false.

>you're sprawling out with meme jokes widely used throughout the internet.
Ohh.. I'm sorry, there isn't anything factual behind those "memes"?

I'll say it one last time, Yes Sweden is pretty cucked when it comes to immigration, but that is changing as we speak. Our prime minister is a complete joke and normal Sven's and Erik's are starting to realize that, the current leaders for left parties are getting a fuck ton of shit right now. Sweden is starting to bounce back in that sense.
And that is the only bad thing about Sweden, it's current immigration laws.

One murder in Sweden is a big fucking deal. Murder is not something that has been normalized ion Sweden.

So you can stop implying shit which you have no fucking knowledge about.
Sweden being cucked, and every swedish male has a cuck shed is a meme that's been blown out of proportion. And taking a meme as fact, now that's just a whole new level of retardness.
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>>74045322
Adding to this, which alone is very amazing what you're planning, I also believe that there must be a bonding experience between the people, and that's what the Church provides. Gathering with your family for prayer, gathering with your kinsmen at the Church, holding hands with them and praying, that's an extremely bonding experience regardless if you believe in God or not. It's a moment you're having with your fellow kin and that's very human, it's really the driving force that makes you a nationalist, because once you're bonded with your kinsmen you'll have the will to protect them as much as you would your own family.

Islam is growing powerful for this very reason. They literally kill themselves in the name of their belief. If western culture had still maintained its religious traditions it would have never allowed such an atrocity to take place, let alone getting used to it.
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>>74049360
>Far south, the rest of the country really hasn't got a problem when it comes to immigration.
>For example up north, you hardly see immigrants. So your information is completely false.
And I have a friend who lived in Malmö and eventually moved southwards with his family, which is horrifying for me just to think about it.
I may be biased, but my perception of northern Sweden is that it has a good share of indigenous population and it's mostly not very attractive in terms of having a "traditionally western lifestyle". Regarding the south of Sweden, yes, but then again you're losing your big cities to literal invaders, those are not "refugees" or whatever they call it, you are literally being invaded and purged out of your own nation.

Now regarding the meme of cuck Swedish men, if you're saying there are big changes to come, why haven't you done anything about it? I don't see any enmassed protests, I don't see any attacks to government buildings or ways to actually *prove* you want to change and you're very pissed at the current situation in Sweden. Blame yourselves for what's happening, for voting for them and allowing them to ruin your country.

If you really want the world to know you're looking to change it, prove it. Gather by the millions, men and women alike, protest, attack government buildings, threaten to murder politicians, EXPOSE them, unite with the media because the media is going to be your greatest ally when it comes to fighting off the government. I don't see any of that and that's exactly what has to be done if you want to change it.
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>>74036962
>give me one reason why we should save modern white people?
If we want a developed society, then white people are worth saving. Though /pol/ makes me lose faith.
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>>74050405
the last part:
I have never voted for the left-feminist government that we currently have.
Swedes are starting to protest here and there.
But attacking government buildings and threaten to murder politicians.. what are you? a fucking monkey?
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>>74050747
I made myself believe that he is a troll.
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>>74050747
>But attacking government buildings and threaten to murder politicians.. what are you? a fucking monkey?
I was expecting this response, and this exactly what they want you to believe.
>Look at Brazil, they're attacking government buildings and threatening to murder politicians... and they're actually getting shit done really fast... b--but, they are savage third world monkeys, r-right? We are civilized Swedes, we don't attack government buildings and threaten to murder politicians. We wave our little banners very quietly and peacefully while sitting on our asses for the rest of the day complaining on social media. This is going to work, eventually, r-right?

Violence is required when it comes to extreme matters such as the very safety of your country or state. Look at Ohio, they were literally pointing guns at the police. Argentinians, I always seen Argentinians protesting, attacking government buildings and overall getting shit one.

Every revolution in History required at least a bit of violence. Don't expect them do be "ohh but they're so upset... maybe we should listen to them and change?", no. Tell you what, not gonna happen.
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>>74037612
there is no reason to try saving the west anyway. did your forefathers try to save britain, or did they escape it and formed one of the most powerful nations to exist that outlasted the british empire?

in the end, a nation is its people. west became cuckistan. if it's no longer your people, why save them or fight for them? get good people, form a new nation, a spiritual successor of the old west.

same with a country, if your country became like a british empire, you abandon it and form a usa, then make sure to make it the most powerful country in existence.

or were the american forefathers cucks because they abandoned britain instead of "staying behind and trying to fight to make it better" or some similar bullshit?
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