Ocean colonization or ocean colonisation is the theory and practice of permanent human settlement of oceans. Such settlements may be seasteads floating on the surface of the water, or exist as underwater habitats secured to the ocean floor, or in an intermediate position.
One primary purpose of ocean colonization is the expansion of livable area. Other possible benefits include expanded access to undersea resources, novel forms of governance (for instance micronations), and new recreational activities.
Lessons learned from ocean colonization may prove applicable to space colonization. The ocean may prove simpler to colonize than space and thus occur first, providing a proving ground for the latter. In particular, the issue of sovereignty may bear many similarities between ocean and space colonization; adjustments to social life under harsher circumstances would apply similarly to the ocean and to space; and many technologies may have uses in both environments.
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[0] - At first, we start as ecological institute\organisation\cultural\relogious commune\etc. We take some funding from seasteading institutes, various ecological and research organisations. Also, we would write requests of financial and juridical help from UN.
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>>74079001
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[1] - Our first hive should be in ocean, therefore, we need floating structures (we should buy old oil rig or something).
(Why in ocean? Because 99.999% of land already claimed and that 0.001% is really hard to find).
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>>74079071
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[2] - We need free stuff to create something. How can we get it? One man's trash is another man's treasure. Literally. We will recycle the waste from rich countries (and they will pay for it). It will provide us glass, metal, electrical and electronical equipment, plastic and organic waste. btw, no one should be forced to do it manually - so, robots, automatisation and computers should take care about it.
How you SHOULD NOT do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A5zVNpkuzk
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>>74079117
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[3] - But we need not only these materials. We also need energy, water, food, fuel. At first, we will use wind turbines (for electricity) and solar thermal power plant (for electricity, water and chemicals, heat). At second, we can load organic waste into bioreactors to get heat, chemicals, fertilizers and methane (fuel and raw material), which after could be burned in gas turbines (electricity and heat). As for food there would be aquaponics, hydroponics and aquaculture. Also floating farms (minipigs, minicows, birds, rabbits, goats, sheeps and some furry animals) and gardens (fruits, vegetables, herbals). It's all also sources for our medical station.
Links for energy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar-powered_Stirling_engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_tower
http://energy.gov/fe/how-gas-turbine-power-plants-work
Links for floating farms and gardens:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/are-floating-farms-our-future-180956476/?no-ist
http://practicalaction.org/floating-gardens
Links for plants which can grow in saltwater:
http://www.wired.com/2008/12/saltwatercrops/
http://www.sciencefocus.com/qa/are-there-any-crops-can-be-irrigated-salt-water
http://learningenglish.voanews.com/content/vegetables-are-grown-in-a-combination-of-fresh-and-sea-water/2526713.html
http://phys.org/news/2015-04-dutch-saltwater-potatoes-world-hungry.html
http://www.fastcoexist.com/3037509/a-saltwater-greenhouse-grows-vegetables-in-places-vegetables-wont-grow
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>>74079158
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[4] - We need more money, of course. For that, go back to [2]. Everything valuable, which can be repaired - should be repaired and sold. Things, which can't be repaired - should be disassembled into valuable components and materials. It's all can be sold to Africa\Asia\South America. Also, it can be sold to hipsters, ecofags and poorfags in wealthy countries.
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>>74079234
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[5] - We need even more money. Therefore, we go further in recycling - we will make something like planes\helicopters\ships\cars graveyard. The logic is same as in [4]. We can't use cars in ocean, but they're still nice source of materials.
How you SHOULD NOT do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTv2Zmtp5Eg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN5VgxgAuO4
How you can do it, if plane is impossible to repair:
http://jalopnik.com/5569874/how-to-recycle-an-airplane/
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>>74079302
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[6] - Okay, if we made it all - we're pretty big colony. We should increase the territory - create\buy the new platform or make artifical island for establishing of state.
Link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_island
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>>74079336
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[7] - Now, we're all into everything. You have a promising start up? Come here, m8, we have resources and specialists. You have a great web idea? Sure, lad, our data center will take care of it. Wanna new VPN? Hosting in our territory, whice have no copyright laws and shit? No problem. But we don't forget about our old business - wanna really cheap and powerful server? Maybe %%our brand production%% (of course we will establish our own brands - we have everything for manufacture)? Maybe generic medicine? Or UAV? Or repaired and improved ship\plane\helicopter? Maybe you wanna taste wine made from grape, that grow in ocean? Or very rare and unique wine made from grape, which grow in underwater basket?
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>>74079383
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[8] - Army and transportation - no draft in peace time. Some boots for close contacts, navy and airforce from [5]. But mostly, our defence forces are UAVs\USVs. As for transport - repaired and improved from [5], blimps, baloons.
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>>74078894
fuck off with this gay shit
i didnt even read it
no point in living on the water
>>74079439
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[9] - Beginning of Antarctica's explore, start of the construction of the cosmodrome.
>>74078894
you also need a system than can transmute ocean water to drinkable/usable water without many expenses
I'd live on it desu
Questions, suggestions, sensible criticism?
Anyway, if you're interested, there is group in russian social network, and free forum without registration:
Dumb idea
I'd live in one
>>74079668
Atmospheric water generators, they pull the H20 right from the humidity in the air
>>74079838
I only have one question: how would it deal with extreme weather? I can only see cyclonic winds and monster waves fucking everyone's shit up.
>>74078894
>wanting to get deep blue sea'd
>>74079902
System block my posts, thinks it's spam, even if I change the links.
Will try to shorten them
>>74079467
>freedom from SJW
Isn't it enough, fellow /pol/ack? :^)
>>74079668
Desalination can be easier with more cheap energy, I think.
>>74079880
Why?
>>74079892
Cool idea. Sources?
>>74079117
>>74079071
>>74079001
>>74079158
>>74079234
>>74079302
hey mang
link to the site again?
i've signed up
damn ruskie bro you sure did your research
it should be fun to watch the nations of the globe squable over who owns what water ways so I am for it
>>74078894
Bullshit. It's just a bunch of rich people that want to use tax money to build their own private super-yacht.
>>74079958
No need to live near storm areas. And we can build some wavebreakers, seawalls and other things to control current.
>>74078894
wait....
we could make places where we could keep out the shitskins and live in peace?
SHEEEEIIIT, WE WUZ AUQUATIC APES!
>>74079969
No need to live near abyss.
>M'galodon.
Firstly I'll colonize myself into the UK as a royal toilet cleaner of Buckingham Palace.
>>74078894
>All that shit you posted
What a maintenance nightmare!
>in a God awful corrosive environment
>All inhabitants would have to work industrial jobs.
>>74079336
Mother Base?
>>74078894
>Implying the US hasn't already de-facto colonized the oceans
THE RUSSIAN NETWORK GROUP:
https://goo gl/AubKn9
FREE FORUM:
http://goo gl/ANSCml
>>74078894
we already have done it its called. seattle
>>74080173
>Cool idea. Sources?
It's already common tech, just google 'atmospheric water generators' you'll find tons of into and products
But it's a simple principle - split the humidity from the air using a condenser.
They have already added these water generators to humvees for personel in the middle-east, so it could easily be scaled up
http://time.com/75612/atmospheric-water-generator-watergen/
>>74080484
add dot instead of whitespaces in both links.
>>74078894
Shouldn't you work on colonizing your far east first, Ivan?
Did you reach out to get funding already?
>>74080341
kek
>>74080258
We can use that money.
>>74080411
>All inhabitants would have to work industrial jobs.
>implying it's something wrong
Please dont make comparisons between living in space and living on the water. The latter is trivial in complexity and difficulty compared to sustainably living in space.
>>74080310
>WE WUZ AUQUATIC
>>74080523
Ah, I probably heard about it. But still, thanks.
>>74080550
Rushka is too corrupted.
It's easier to build new society in ocean.
>>74080695
No, unfortunately.
>>74080704
It's kind of simulating of life in space. Useful for space expirience.
International waters
>>74080675
Why is mummy so beautiful?
You have been posting theese threads for 6 months or more now.
I think you want all Nationalists to float at see as Open targets for nucelar warheads or something like that
At least third world niggers won't be able to enter a underwater dome
Internet cables
>>74078894
White flight....
Have our land stolen and swindled right out from under our feet...
Can't get to Mars yet...
Fuck it, time for Alanis #2.
Technology is our only ally.
Go brains
>>74081064
>>74080913
No more corrupt than most others. Don't let opinion based articles like amnesty international fool you. Far East is gonna get developed (slow but surely).
>>74080958
what about focusing your energy to win the eurovision for a change Maxim?
>>74081111
Yes, why not.
>>74081059
No, Sven, relax.
>>74081124
>Alanis
Morissette?
>>74081155
I am the russian. I don't need articles from mass media to see it.
>Far East is gonna get developed
Sure, kek.
When this shit would be chinese.
>>74081258
I don't give a shit about eurovision, Muhammad.
>>74081258
Sup, Days of glory?
How are you doing?
shipping routes.
>>74081065
how deep are those? is there even any way to access them?
>>74080701
>>All inhabitants would have to work industrial jobs.
>>implying it's something wrong
Not at all, sir.
I am, however, implying that the work would be hard and dirty.
>>74078894
The BEST part of cities on the ocean....
niggers can't swim
>>74081470
so you are saying there is a fuckton of space?
>>74080269
>>74080314
>>74080958
>>74081065
>>74081470
So, what is the best place for a colony, /pol/?
>not too deep
>less storms
>trade routes nearby
>internet cable nearby
>international waters
>international waters
either anarcho fags or you want to mass murder everyone without consequence
once people start having children, it will fail. New ideas always disturb the old order.
how will people be screened? what would it be like to be north korea on water? no trade = death
>>74081482
We will just pay them for a connection. What permission do you need for it?
>>74081510
Yes, they can connect us.
But shit would be expensive for that trick, I think.
>>74081570
>I am, however, implying that the work would be hard and dirty
Well, such is price of freedom.
>>74081600
Yes.
>>74081678
how many people would live on your shithole? in order to get acess to trade and Internet cables you need a sizeable population for it to be economic
>>74081787
kek. Don't be such silly, fellow crypto-turk.
>>74081806
>how will people be screened?
I don't understad, what do you mean?
>what would it be like to be north korea on water?
We WOULDN'T be a North Korea in ocean.
>no trade = death
Who said there wouldn't be trade?
i don't where a bunch of poor russians would get the money to do this
>>74082041
why the hell would anyone want to trade with you? what currency would you be using? what goods would you be using?
>>74081960
Hard queston, tbqh.
>>74082078
CYKA, BLYAT
>>74082175
>why the hell would anyone want to trade with you?
The don't need money?
>what currency would you be using?
USD for a start.
>what goods would you be using?
Did you read my posts?
>>74082298
this would never work. Nobody will actually trade with a bunch of Russians role-playing pirates. even if they did trade with you, you retards would run out of money
UNDERWATER
>>74082581
FARM
>>74082507
>Russians role-playing pirates
ok buddy.
Underwater farming helps with food consumption
This sounds like a billion dollar project that will house only a few thousand people and will need a constant flow of money to stay functioning. How do you plan on acquiring these funds? What will the advantages be of living in this colony other than the novelty of living in the ocean?
>>74082777
Cool.
http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/aug/13/food-growing-underwater-sea-pods-nemos-garden-italy
>>74078894
How about take Vostok and then build the ocean platforms around it. Having a small natural land area would be great
it is rarely economical
too afraid of giant wave
How would you defend against terrorist attacks with such vulnerable structure?
protecting a floating country would be a nightmare. you are exposed from all directions with no natural barriers. should you could sink nigger pirate boats but what can you do against advaned torpedoes, submarines, etc?
>>74083026
the same way we could have prevented it now: just fucking dont let them in.
>>74082826
Did you read my posts?
>>74082892
>take Vostok
What exactly do you mean?
>>74082980
>sea city and sea trade is rarely economical
>UK
Ok.
>>74083022
We will have structures to protect us against it.
>>74083026
No Muslims immigrant allowed.
>>74083132
fuck no, but I like russians so I might
>>74083109
>>74083164
It'd only take one though. Plus if it's too close to mainland than it's liable for an attack
>>74083026
Who said we wouldn't have a security?
Also, modular structure is quite sustainable
And what exactly kind of attack?
>>74083103
Sounds like a local WW.
What did you purposed against us?
>>74083520
>incestuous mothers
That's disgustin.
regards, moralfrogs.
>>74083103
Patches of wire mesh, radar, and mines. The mesh would set of torpedoes, the radar detects subs if they try to move since most of the stealth component of modern subs relies on diving and hiding, and the mines will go off if subs hit them anyways if they are trying a full out attack or manage to move slow enough to avoid the radar.
I refuse to improve anything until we got the shitskins/self hating white shit sorted out
>>74083132
Yes I did see your posts, but I assumed you were not just planning on building a massive colony, technological base and army from just donated garbage.
You do know that there are already millions of companies that buy garbage just like you? Garbage with glass, metal and other valuable materials is already in expensive commodity, and there is a ton of companies that buy that stuff to fix it and reuse it that aren't in the middle of the fucking ocean. And where will you get gasoline? Where will you get skilled workers and engineers to give you actual blue prints instead of just a picture from a book?
>>74079838
Why do you want to start in an ocean? Getting freshwater would be a pain in the ass. Start in the middle of Lake Michigan as an easy mode so we know what we're doing
>>74082826
THIS IS NOT OKAY
>>74083606
Isn't it the wire mesh ineffective already?
>>74083669
kek.
>>74083721
>You do know that there are already millions of companies that buy garbage just like you?
>Garbage with glass, metal and other valuable materials is already in expensive commodity, and there is a ton of companies that buy that stuff to fix it and reuse it that aren't in the middle of the fucking ocean.
Then why do I seen so many electronic dumps in shitholes like Africa?
>And where will you get gasoline?
>>74079158
>Where will you get skilled workers and engineers to give you actual blue prints instead of just a picture from a book?
U w0t, m8? There are shittons of free blueprints databases.
>>74079154
http://fishbowl.boards.net/
>>74083838
>Start in the middle of Lake Michigan as an easy mode so we know what we're doing
Provide me some visa, pl0x.
>>74078894
what happens when a 300 ft wave hits it at full force?
>>74082826
We can offer to wealthy people:
- ecologically clean place for pregnant women;
- medical procedures of all kinds;
...
- and the novelty of living in the ocean, finally.
>>74084457
We'll ride the fuck'n wav'!
>>74080067
Look at their chicken thread lmao
>ocean colonization
MFE RICH PEOPLE ARE ALREADY SETTLING THEMSELVES COMFORTABLE..
maybe they know something we don't? maybe an asteorid or some shit? PIC RELATED
>>74081678
Line Island area
THE RUSSIAN NETWORK GROUP:
https://goo gl/AubKn9
FREE FORUM:
http://goo gl/ANSCml
>>74078894
Remember Ever 17.
>>74078894
>good idea
>>74080269
>>74080958
>Ocean hives will be our new neighbours
FUCK OFF REE
>>74081065
Oh, wait, nevermind.
i always get a kick out of these computer generated images of an ocean colony or a deep ocean based energy plant
these are the dreams of people who don't understand what the ocean is like
>>74084832
Wow cool idea, i can see that thing being snapped in half.
Maybe if anchored, and the right materials used.
>>74085501
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KEK
>>74085577
Ocean is quite heterogeneous subject, you know?
I'm just taking a quick glance at this project and this is what it looks like you will need just to get this started:
>hundreds of actual certified and experienced engineers of different fields for designing a huge ship as well as all the specialized facilities you outlined
>hundreds of actual certified and experienced scientists of different fields that actually know the specifics of ocean ecology, decomposition of materials, waste conversion, etc that will guide the engineers on how everything will function
>thousands of skilled workers such as electricians, plumbers and metalworkers that will actually be able to assemble the multiple complex, custom ships you require just to start off your colony
>millions or most likely billions of dollars in materials, some of which (like for all those science experiments you will need) are very rare
>contracts and connections with many individuals and organizations who will be ready to provide food and resources to your colony regularly
>thousands of committed volunteers ready to completely abandon their current lives to live very hard and simple lives supporting a ocean colony
This just a small list of what you will need to kick off your little colony. This is just off the top of my head and I am sure I forgot a bunch more essentials that you will need. I highly doubt that someone who is trying to recruit people off of 4chan will be able to organize a humongous project such as this.
>>74084283
>Then why do I seen so many electronic dumps in shitholes like Africa?
You don't. Electronics are extremely valuable because of the rare Earth minerals inside them and are usually sent to China where little children take them apart for reuse.
>>74084515
A wealthy person can find all those things buy buying himself a private yacht. And on that yacht he will live like a king instead of being a peasant in some shitty colony.
How far off coast and what countries coast should this /pol/ony be?
>>74078894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WKN0XF8-3Q
oy fuckin vey, OP. DELIVER US from degeneracy.
WE WUZ SEA MEN
What about pollution?
Bioshock
>>74085926
That's not the issue. We'll get embargoed pretty fast the way /pol/ wants to live.
>>74085758
You van be right, but you obviously don't need THAT many certified peoples. Many processes that I wrote about are quite routine.
Yes, it's big and hard. But not impossible.
>>74084283 (You)
>You don't. Electronics are extremely valuable because of the rare Earth minerals inside them and are usually sent to China where little children take them apart for reuse.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3049457/Where-computer-goes-die-Shocking-pictures-toxic-electronic-graveyards-Africa-West-dumps-old-PCs-laptops-microwaves-fridges-phones.html
41 million tonnes of 'e-waste' worth over £34billion were discarded globally in 2014, according to a shocking report by United Nations University who claim only 6 million tonnes of that was recycled properly.
>>74085709
what the ocean is is an environment which would destroy that multibillion dollar looking venture quite easily
travel through the ocean is one thing, colonizing its surface and its depths are entirely another feat of engineering
i'm not making the argument that it's impossible, i'm just saying it's quite a large expense for something which will end tragedy
What happens to all the boats during a massive ocean storm? I hope the docks and the surrounding habitat is made of diamondium
>>74083720
My jealousy knows no bounds.
>>74078894
Fuck m8, the ocean scares me more than deep space.
>>74085765
You can select it.
>>74081678
>>74085810
Pollution is a disease, and we are the doctors.
>>74085926
>>74086223
>You van be right, but you obviously don't need THAT many certified peoples
You are trying to design a project that incorporates several ongoing science experiments you only have picture of, will be of enormous size, will have to be able to take care of every single essential function of human life, and will also have to be able to handle hundreds of different scenarios in the ocean without falling apart. How many engineers do you think this will take if its takes at least 50 just to design a simple cruise ship? And more importantly where will you get them?
>>74082546
>>74082581
>>74082616
>plastic
Plastic is expensive though.
>>74078894
I dont think it would be for livable areas. It would probably be for as a base for exporing mineral amd oil deposits under the sea, since most of the earth surface is ocean. Theres bound to be hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of rare earths minerals used to make electronic devices and currently China has a monopoly.
>>74086275
The smaller the ship, the bigger the storm.
Just build large ships and devote a significant portion of their hardware space towards storm-readiness. It is/was a common thing for metal warships to have certain gadgets that helped them avoid/endure storms, even in space that could have otherwise been occupied by high power weaponry.
>hurricane damage
Steel + concrete = hurricane can't do shit. The worst part of a hurricane is the flooding anyway, which doesn't exist when you're already on the ocean.
ITT: people willingly ignoring that 51% of the world wealth is in the hands of a small percent of people who don't need any sea cities and will not disburse a penny to make our lives better, ever.
Instead of talking about pipe dreams for wannabe architects discuss how to radically change this shitty society
>>74086275
>diamondium
Why? Just make sure wave would cancel one another due to interference
>>74080913
Its not simulating shit. The ocean is an environment that provides a lot of what we need. Space provides absolutely nothing, it is totally hostile.
>>74086389
why?
>>74086632
wut
There are tonnes of plastic garbage in ocean.
>>74087260
>off-topic whining
"Small percent of people" on a global scale includes a large portion of /pol/'s user base. If a billionaire constructs real estate, the very next thing he's going to want to do with it is find some tenants.
>>74087385
We already have all these Cryptids here on solid land.Imagine all the ones that will pop up if we start having people live on the ocean.
>>74087260
sup, commie.
> to radically change this shitty society
вcё oтнять и пoдeлить?
>>74087271
My concern was for the boats being thrashed around and then being slammed into the surrounding structures.
One ship's anchor gets knocked off and the ship can head straight into a docking station or whatever and create damage to the structure that can then cause further damage through leaks, flooding, and general structural integrity damage.
Once ONE accident like that happens, the whole enclosure it at risk.
The risk is too high for these types of habitats.
>>74087569
>create damage to the structure that can then cause further damage through leaks, flooding, and general structural integrity damage
Modular structure.
>>74087525
кoнeчнo
>>74087494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neQtrQvLV9Y
>>74087070
What is rogue 200ft wave for 700 bill
>>74078894
That would be amazing if this actually worked. I would gladly transfer my measly $20,000 and live there stealing credit cards and helping other people join.
In all honesty the entire economy could be based off of internet fraud and tourism I would assume.
>>74087070
>>74087441
We already have man made islands
>>74078894
This is dumb. It would be so expensive to build and maintain. There are vast areas that are unpopulated: in Siberia, American plains, Canadian prairies, country-sides, etc.
>>74087977
Just like Switzerland.
>>74088127
>>74087762
Doesn't solve the problem for the people stuck in the damaged module.
It's a great amount of deaths for a simple accident like that. All modules are at risk if they have boats near them.
>>74088209
>what is independence
Gyroscopic spherical settlements would probably be the best way. Trying to fight the waves is only going to end up costing money & time and you're always going to take damage by attrition. Ride the waves, go with the flow.
>city of water
This is some oldschool JRPG shit. I like it.
Maybe the whole thing will be power from the energy of the Water Crystal?
>>74088667
Having it inside a gyroscope wouldn't do anything, water doesn't cause that much friction on surfaces.
Any floating settlement would be able to rise and fall with the waves, and simply anchoring it inside a sphere would protect it from wave crests.
There's no need for the settlement to freely rotate within the sphere.
>>74088312
The leaf does have a good point though. What is the possibility of something like this actually happening? I mean of course it would be awesome to have a nationalistic floating civilization but the cost and legal bullshit that you have to go through would be insane. Not only that but if you are truly independent you better make some allies or else you will be fighting off anyone who has enough money for a private army. It's not too crazy to think of some group like ISIS seeing a highly well built tech-civ that is independent and in international waters being a prime target for them.
So you would need everyone be able to defend it which wouldn't be that hard as long as you have the money to procure the weapons, ammunition, drones for surveillance, radars, etc..
You then have to find or educate people on how to use these which again, isn't impossible but all this has to be going on while some people are committing mass levels of fraud or bringing in passive incomes from another country's investments.
I don't see why owning a piece of land somewhere in Russia that isn't being used and making a deal with authorities that it will be a benefit you just mostly want to be left to your own devices is a bad idea. Not only that, but you can then bring in people who would not originally join your boat-civ and you could have a thorough screening process with background checks to make sure they are not wanted by interpol or subversive agents trying to find information and create another Waco type situation.
Nevertheless, God Speed You Magnificent Russbro.
>>74089195
Of course, it's hard and big project.
There is many questions still stay unanswered.
But thank you.
>>74089195
The moment your start being productive, Putin will want in on it. It has to be somewhere incredibly advantageous to defend with a stable internal supply of food. Unless we just want to be modern day Troy.
>>74089609
if you can make food you can make weapons duh
>>74089740
potato bombs?
>>74089793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ufRnf2Exc
>>74089793
you can extract materials from water and from mining and (or) make something like railgun i dont know im not bear grylls
>>74090177
Nah, it's understandable. I thought you have some great idea about weapons from food.
>>74090296
well you could hire some niggers on food wage and flood putins wrath with pontons filled with nigger mercenary good idea slav bro?
>>74090612
>want to fuck her while calling her mummy and hearing her beautiful english mummy moans then finish inside her and cuddle after while getting mummy to lick my cummy up
I cringe'd.
>>74090296
What are the costs for a water desalination plant? From what I have read with a decent population of ~20,000 it would still be around $10,000,000.
>>74090490
>slavs against niggers
>literally white niggers against ordinary niggers
I don't get it.
>>74090971
its a bad joke
well if you think of it you could make some black/grey powder of plants and piss if im remembering correctly well when you will have the powder you can make bullets so i think this will do
>>74091051
You'll have to get used to a different kind of love. The professionals we'll need will be predominantly male dominated and women especially aren't into isolation away from society.
>>74091678
>predominantly dominated
I should have proofread.
Pretty cool desu, especially the underwater fish farm
>>74092009
There won't be enough women if any at all. You're gonna learn to love cock. No mummy for your cummy.
>>74091051
Me too. I wanna be her personal toilet cleaner.
>>74092184
So I'll be a pirate pimp then - If there is demand, I'll fulfill the supply
>>74079838
how would the people and property be protected by tsunamis?
>>74092763
>tsunamis
>in the ocean
>>74081510
Sea bed.
Yes if you can get deep enough.
I'd say just off the east coast of the USA just outside USA national waters would be ideal
>>74093202
>earthquakes underwater
>causes tsunamis
>>74093617
I was thinking somewhere in the big swath of ocean in between California and Hawaii.
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>>74092277
why dude
>>74094109
do I have to learn russkie for this
>>74094299
You can post in english, no problem.
>>74093974
m8, I mean, tsunami is deadly only at coastal area.
>>74080269
>>74094399
What is your colonies position on dragon dildos?
>>74094484
If the tsunami wave is shorter or even 5% the height of the floating city, you're fucked.
Immunity to tsunamis more or less means being far away from shallow water (coast).
>>74094109
why such wierd links?
>>74094557
>>74094622
Degenerates are not welcomed.
>>74094681
https://vk com/okeanopolis
http://okeanopolis forum2x2 ru/
>>74079158
Have you considered hydrothermal? It basically uses the temp differential between water depths to generate power.
Hawaii was looking into it, but decided it would cause too much "risk of environmental impact" because they're a bunch of retarded monkeys
I think I'd rather live on the ocean floor than in space.
>>74094889
Interesting idea, but isn't it would be costly?
I mean drilling and stuff.
>>74094893
underwater?
>>74094889
Link to jewpedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_thermal_energy_conversion
>>74095111
Reading through it, seems like a closed cycle would have a really high back work ratio (energy diverted after generation to handle the working fluid), and open cycle would have pretty high maintenance requirements because of the corrosion potential of seawater
Still, it seems like an ideal power source if you can keep operating costs down
>>74095575
interesting idea.
Why do we have such a large surface area? Why not go submerged
>>74081678
>>74078894
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>>74079158
>>74079234
A nice place would be in between Europe and North America. Idealistically, it's the perfect place for trade routes.
A wall could be built like pic related (A FUCKING WALL) to control storm weather incoming, with wind turbines on each segment on top, giving perpetual energy.
The beach of the colony could be hollow, allowing it to float, but have sand on top, a sort of thermal sand that can absorb the energy from the sun and radiate it upwards into the atmosphere, making it warm for the colony, maybe even tropically warm if enough resources were invested.
At first, it could start off as a simple ocean concrete project, simply a grid of concrete blocks floating on the water, supporting another grid on top; the grid on top is the living space. If one of the blocks below the living space were to break, the living space would be unaffected, as all the blocks underneathe support the living space in conjunction. If one block is broken, it would be as simple as rearranging the blocks to take the old one out and replace it with a new one or fix the old one. After a while, the project can expand with monetary funds.. It's as simple as getting the proper mixture of concrete/seacrete (which can be fairly inexpensive) and getting the pump truck down to the wharf, and then towing that concrete block to the colony when the block cures. And if the colony starts off close to land, we wouldn't have to worry about going far.
The question is "How can the colony monetarily sustain itself" or "How can the colony make money?"
>>74097479
The same shit people do in crowded cities.
STEM, bureaucracy, entertainment.
For exemple, the water surrounding the place could be used as a natural coolant.
Perferct spot for server farms.
There's plenty of unused land left. The only reason someone might build a floating island would be to have a hydro/solar powered robot factory for cheap manufacturing.
North Atlantic, East Pacific and Indian Oceans are going to be 3 nice central places.
When a company like Google overshoots 10 trillion dollars it will have enough cash on hand (1 trillion) to build something like this and perhaps hide behind maritime law to avoid taxes and all kinds of related issues.
Probably 50 years away from that.
>>74078894
This exists yet and it's called singapor...
>>74078894
Sorry, whitey, but you can't escape.
>>74100248
no you lying
>>74080913
>Russia is to corrupted
We can fix that with a mass migration of nationalists
>>74081678
What your talking about would cost a trillion dollars. The best chance we have at a pol colony is to by land in eastern europe or russia.
>>74100248
We can its called white flight its what we do. You don't actually think white people in America are going to take orders from niggers and spics do you?
>>74078894
It wouldn't work, it would be insanely expensive and would heavily rely on trade with nations, who would ultimately control you because of this.
>>74100947
>nationalists aren't corrupt
:^)
>>74100248
Sorry nigger you can't maintain a white-built civilization
>>74101779
Moldova population 3.5 million
I think we found our /pol/ colony everyone
>>74087924
200 foot swells do not exist anywhere on this planet. The only time that is possible is a dinosaur killing sized meteor, in which case the world is fucked anyway.
You are confusing ocean swells for shoreline breaks.
Just put people on super tankers.
>>74078894
>>74079071
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>>74079302
>Be 2100
>Living in my glass dome city under the ocean
>See a crack in my window pane
>Begin to hear creaking in the entire structure
Fuck, I'm afraid enough of the sea as it is
>>74079880
this.
I'd rather go to Somalia with a hundred /pol/acks and make a White country in it with good borders.
>>74078894
would not live in one
i don't trust the ocean. i'm comfy living on a coastal state, thank you very much.
>>74104455
>make every room a modular self-enclosed escape pod
>>74105495
Its like this shit is controlled opposition. We should be organising and begin the white flight from America but instead we're talking about ocean colonies
>>74102603
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave
100 ft rogue waves have been recorded
>>74078894
And then
>>74078894
>>74079001
>>74079071
>>74079117
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>>74079838
>living in the sea
Wow what a great and original idea Russia :^)
You are the best country ever ;^)
