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>>73722039
???
Pennsylvania IS definitely going red this election cycle, the moderate democrats will make sure of that. However,
>Utah
No fucking way, just cause they suck Romney's dick doesn't mean they're gonna follow him down his retarded warpath with Trump.
>Arizona
No. They want the fucking wall. They can see firsthand what the illegal beaners do to infrastructure, if there's ever been an election where they're safe red, it's this one. Even with the mass immigration of Cucknifornians, Opinion hasn't swayed to that point in the state, and it certainly won't once Trump is elected.
>Indiana
Fuck no. They're safe red in ANY election, why would that change here?
Good calls on Michigan and Pennsylvania, the rest don't make much sense.
>michigan
>red
>>73722541
Pic related is what Trump has to shoot for. To accomplish this, all he needs to do is stir up the Independents, Registered """"Democrats"""" and Neocons of Pennsylvania. The numbers for the dems are HORRIBLY exaggerated here, no joke, about 70% of registered democrats here are
a. Single Issue Voters with no political interest.
b. Right of fucking Cruz
c. Self hating cucks
d. The nigs of Philly
As for Michigan, he just has to get the Suburban Conservative vote, which shouldn't be difficult, because they hate nogs anyhow. The rest of the state has had enough. Aside from a few poor, oppressed, gud bois over in Detroit and Grand Rapids, Literally everyone can see what Democratic leadership does. (Urban Decay, Water Crisis, Corruption, etc.)
>>73723336
Oh, and IL. Basically, see Michigan, except A LOT more difficult for Trump. Although it HAS happened during their gubernationals where the rest of the state overthrows Chicago.
>>73722541
>Fuck no. They're safe red in ANY election
Indiana went blue in 2008 with Obama's first election.
I remember that well since I live in this state.
It's mostly red, but not completely.
>>73723565
That's also the only time we went blue since 1964. IIRC Oklahoma and Utah are the only states that have one republican more often than us in that timespan.
Anyway, pic related is the most likely way to victory for trump. Anyone who thinks Illinois, Michigan, or Pennsylvania is going red is delusional as hell, sad as that makes me to say. Wisconsin being a battleground is also a meme.
Hillary shot herself in the foot with the coal miners comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksIXqxpQNt0
>>73724482
>coal isn't a dead end technology with TWh per TWh produces more radioactive waste.
>>73724336
>trump can win without winning illinois OR michigan
>if he wins one of those rust belt states it is fucking ogre
I AM SO HARD RIGHT NOW
>>73724809
It will not happen MI and IL will not turn for many years. They are blue now.
>>73722039
>>73724809
Here's hoping, man.
If he does win one of those, it would definitely be Michigan. They're still way more unlikely to turn red than /pol/ admits, but there is a chance there.
Illinois is doomed because of how much of a stranglehold Chimpcongo has on it. I have never seen a state where everywhere outside of one city was so opposite politically and culturally. Not even New York or Pennsylvania. Chicago truly should be its own city-state at this point and fuck off (and take NW Indiana with it)
>>73723565
I'm in Indiana... There is no possible way that Hillary wins. Bernie beat her here in the primary. Nobody here likes her.
>>73725133
Trump could win California if he plays his cards right
Issa would be a strong choice for VP to go after the state, he's the richest person in Congress
>>73722039
Realistically it's gonna look something like this. Based on both traditional vote for each state and on primaries results
>>73725133
>he would flip every blue state, except where he's from
>>73725534
By primary turnout Trump already won
>>73725506
>south Texas
>>73725506
Issa is also despised everywhere outside of his district.
>>73725222
Can confirm. Chicago and its surrounding areas and NW have more in common than either of them do with their states. Central and southern Illinois is really conservative.
>>73725133
>california
>new york
>blue
well memed
>Utah
>blue
I hate you goddamn newfags
>>73723336
yeah honestly this is a good "upper bound", I don't think CO will go Red this time.
Now, that being an upper bound, here's my idea of what the average between an upper and lower would look like
>>73722039
Pennsylvania will go Red.
EVERY
SINGLE
STATE
>>73725534
Trump can get Ohio easily. Don't count it out.
Also, primary results don't tell the full story for Democrats unfortunately. A lot more vote in the general.
I think it'd be a good idea to look at all the states where Bernie best Hillary. He has a really good shot and winning those voters.
>>73725506
He really could
A big tie for Bernie would help
Plus some chimpouts or terrorist attack would motivate the independent and blue dogs. Once he hammers hillary for guns he could pull in the mountain man liberals
Also ME is going red
VT is a dark horse to go red
>ITT: delusional Trump fags
The mental gymnastics you retards are pulling to believe Trump can beat Hillary (or even sanders) is Tumblr tranny tier.
>>73725133
this is close, just change illinois to blue because this state is corrupt.
Also change Florida
>>73725994
IM WITH YOU.
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>>73726311
> He can't beat the incumbent party
> He's just a media figure
> His own party is splitting and running against him
> He's down 10% in may
> He just can't win
People have hated Clinton for decades, they only got told to hate Trump 8 months ago. It isn't sticking to him, it's already part of who she is.
>>73725534
I really think he can win Ohio, and probably will. And a decent chance of Pennsylvania.
The problem is that I think VA might be blue now. I live in NoVA and I don't see it going Trump atm
>>73725994
HILLARY ON STROKE WATCH
>>73725994
PAINT IT RED LITTLE DONALD
>>73726234
>Also ME is going red
"no"
>>73725767
You from central Illinois? They don't give a fuck about us in Chicago. I've noticed that they rarely fly the state flag, they just fly the Chicago flag
>>73726759
From Chicago but go to school in Champaign. Lots of people here dislike Chicago for thinking that it's only part of the state that matters. Lot more Illinois pride outside of Chicago as well.
Do you guys have anything like the Secret Tories in the UK where the conservatives tend to do better than people think since nobody says they're voting Tory as people are scared of looking like a dick and don't like telling polling people?
Is there a Secret Republican effect?
Regardless I'm guessing lots of people who say they're undecided because they're afraid of being judged for liking Trump
>>73727393
Maybe. But also I don't think a lot of conservatives go to the websites I go to so its hard to tell.
>>73727393
All the people I know who support Trump say so in hushed tones, in select company. Why suffer a social death sentence, or worse, lose your job. The only thing that matters is the vote, which is made entirely in private.
>>73726698
Why
Aside from Portland we are a center right state w lots of libertatians. We voted for Perot who was a mini autist Trump and Ron Paul. We have been decimated by NAFTA losing our shoe and paper factories. We have a mini trump gov. Put Rs in Congress since forever.
The caucus was rigged and Dems couldn't switch at polls despite what it said online.
Bernie cucks will not vote Hillary, they will stay home, vote 3rd, or Trump.
>>73727701
If you don't publicly support Trump you are a coward tb.h
>>73725534
>that map
Republicucks are delusional, kek.
>>73728116
wouldn't this mean Dems won?
>>73723336
Illinois and Michigan seem car fetched, but other than that this map is entirely possible.
>>73729060
Yes and it's still heavily biased towards Trump. This election isn't going to be close. Hillary will win in a landslide.
>>73730710
With the latest polls its safe to assume you are in the Cruz camp tier delusion in here
>>73723336
Illinois will go blue my nigga and it aint cuz o nuthin south of I-80
