>The demands being made by various governments and the United Nations in “Civil War” are more than reasonable. They want the Avengers to stop being a privately run paramilitary organization that answers to no one. They want them to sign a treaty agreeing to transparency and some government oversight. This is common sense and what we would expect the standard liberal position to be in a world where superheroes exist.
>Instead, we have this distracting plot where Steve suddenly turns from a level-headed liberal to a Ayn Randian libertarian douchebag who throws tantrums because he has to do grown-up stuff like share power instead of make unilateral decisions for other people. It was a betrayal of the character and made the movie less fun than it should have been.
I am not even going to post a link to the rest of the article. You know where to find that shit. Someone can do a cached copy if motivated.
>>73194973
>"ruin"
Who the fuck did they think someone calling himself "Captain America" represented? Fucking rag heads in the third world?
>>73194973
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435036/captain-america-superheroes-dumbed-down
>Captain America: Civil War confirms our national dumb-down. While the mainstream media pretzel themselves over the presidential primaries, Marvel Studios has steadily accomplished a rejiggering of the American public’s cultural and political consciousness. Civil War completes this devolution in its story of superhero combat where one faction of pop icons, led by Captain America/Steve Rogers (Chris Evans), faces off against another faction, headed by billionaire genius Iron Man/Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.).
This one's a lot better. Marvel fans BTFO
>Steve Rogers is an icon of liberal patriotism
>liberal patriotism
A guy named CAPTAIN FUCKING AMERICA believes in liberty? Who the hell would've thought?
>>73195105
Doesn't really make sense I'd imagine Stark would be ok without uncle sam just like the Captn. Maybe just his black friend who was always super naïve and in the govt pocket.
>they actually put pic related in the movie almost word for word
That really made my day.
Why couldn't we get a good Fronk movie instead of all this avenger shit?
>>73194973
>how dare this military veteran espouse conservative ideologies like limited federal government!?
>>73195248
That hasn't existed since Hitler and the USSR.
Aren't liberals against slavery? But its ok if the Captn became one for the state.
>>73195248
We all know putting a dildo in your ass was the founding philosophy of America friend
>>73195383
Based Punisher. They need to make punisher great again.
>>73194973
Are comic books really the place for intense philosophy?
Tony Stark - ugly government cuck (and a disgusting manlet)
Steve Rogers - true American patriot and a freedom lover (also handsome as fuck)
Your choice
>>73194973
It looked like Steve is probably the only redpiled character (save for Hawkeye, he's just on /pol/ level). This crazy scene of black woman telling of Tony because he didn't save her goddamn child - damn, they were busy saving a fucking city falling from the sky, how about not being that selfish?
And this readiness to withdraw Avengers' power to completely useless UN, which cannot even stop civil wars in african shitholes and is likely overrun by Hydra is totally a legit course of action.
Yet, everybody hypes this bullshit and throw shit at superior BvS.
(Spiderman and Ant-man were probably the only tolerable part of the movie)
>>73194973
> muh capeshit
Can we have like 5 other boards for this bullshit.
This board is for bait threads.
>>73195344
Crappy quote... that's not what America was founded on and can be taken just about any way, to justify any belief.
0/10
>SALON
>>73195497
It brings liberals back to the last course they did well in while in school; coloring books.
>>73195503
The black panther looks the best out of the lot of them.
>>73194973
lol i bet this was written by a faggot democrat that still calls themselves a "liberal" instead of "progressive" when he realized socialism isn't liberal at all
>>73195466
Here's a (You) for your troubles.
Better luck next time.
>>73195466
Hey, a dildo is a potentially deadly weapon, and if I choose to bear it in my asshole, that right SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>73194973
>Instead, we have this distracting plot where Steve suddenly turns from a level-headed liberal to a Ayn Randian libertarian douchebag who throws tantrums because he has to do grown-up stuff like share power instead of make unilateral decisions for other people
Capes are Randian by default. It's about overpowered freaks doing what they want because they want and only mediocre people want to stop them, either by being corrupted by power they don't deserve and can't fully control (villains) or being envious and jealous. Capes may pretend to have moral ambiguity but at the end, everything is accomodated to show that our hero was right and the mediocre people was wrong.
>>73194973
>grown-up stuff like share power
The person writing this clearly thinks like a child. To think that people like this have the vote.
Also, this fucking nigger who's there just because HIS FATHER WUZ KING AND SHIT.
>leftists triggered
Nice, I actually want to see this now.
>>73194973
>Be me
>Read two things about the movie
>Think Iron Man is on the right side because he wants to register heroes
>Not realize that this is basically gun control and I agreed with it
Redpill me on Civil War the Captains side
>>73195508
It makes no sense to me that stark would want to be under govt control when the govt itself tried to kill him and snare his company.
>>73195562
Well banter aside, do we need to have "enlightening" discussions over things that were made purely to sell ad space?
>>73194973
Friendly reminder that Iron Man was right. If you support private vigilantes running around punching and killing people outside the law with no government oversight you're a lolbertarian anarkiddo.
>>73195425
>like limited federal government!?
It wasn't even the federal government, or shield. In the movie they demanded the avengers be answerable to a coalition of 121 countries who signed the accord to control super heroes.
Answering to the UN would mean fuck all would ever get accomplished. Suddenly china or russia have veto power over where captain America can deploy.
>>73195060
Their version of America, yes.
>>73194973
capeshit viral marketing pls leave
>>73195712
WUZ
>>73195603
>getting butthurt over bantz
>>73195606
dog bless
>>73194973
>if you're not a libertarian you're a bootlicker
Let's see regressives share power, then.
>>73194973
>someone who's literally mentally stuck in 50s
>expected to behave like a libtard from circa 2016
Not even fiction is safe from retarded liberals.
>>73194973
captain america and heros as whole will always just be a reflection of american society.
in the 40's with their fake patriotism bullshit against the nazis, captain america was conservative fighting against "opression".
>>73194973
>liberal patriotism
>>73195578
Why is Ireland a cuck country. I used to love Ireland, /pol/ potatoes are ruining it for me
This is very current year
>>73195530
Shut up faggot
>>73195840
>taking this place seriously
Half the shit that comes out of here is satire
>>73195840
>Why is Ireland a cuck country
Coming from the biggest producer and consumer of interracial porn on earth, you're funny.
>turn on one of those capeshit flicks
>it actually has a plot where a personification of United States of America fights against an oppressive tyrannical government whos goal is to inviligate everyone with supposed "protection" and "safety" as a reason
>absolutely no normie notices this is an allegory to what happens and was happening for the past 10 years because if they noticed they would have to sacrifice a little bit of their comfortable lifes and decide for themselves once in their lives
G A R B A G E
>>73195728
POTATO
>>73195645
SHALL
>>73195693
Leafposting at its best.
How does Weed man's cock taste like?
>>73195105
The Irrelevant Review can't blow anything but itself out. They are probably upset that Rogers didn't bow down to the globalist establishment, being that they are themselves a mouthpiece of the globalist establishment.
>>73194973
>capitan america was a liberal patriot
he had absolutely no liberal mindset at all do these retards even read the comics or watch the movies they talk about?
>>73195669
The script is bound the fact that Stark and Rogers must be polar opposites. While true in most cases, I guess you're right, they shouldn't bend to government will in this case.
After all, it's overhyped capeshit. My hope for new decent Marvel movies is long gone.
Also friendly reminder that it was the UN security council that ordered NYC be nuked in the first avengers movie.
Pic related are the "accountable people" that the avengers would have to directly answer to.
>>73194973
I watched this movie and this is exactly what I thought
it was basically captain america the isolationist libertarian versus the douchebag ironman the globalist who wants to cut deals with the UN
>>73194973
>standard liberal position
>liberal position
>standard
>>73195925
>He believes the satire meme
>>73195945
An unfortunate truth yet our population is enormous compared to yours, almost every potato I've seen posts like a cuck, why?
>>73195248
>Liberal
>patriotism
Mexican Intellectuals
I DONT UNDERSTAND THESE STORIES AREN'T EVEN WRITTEN THAT GREAT WHY DOES IT MATTER WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT POLITICS OR PHILOSOPHY
Good fucking leave comics alone so I can enjoy my hobby without you trying to force change.
>>73196130
To trigger plastic paddies, why else? kek.
>>73194973
>It was a betrayal of the character and made the movie less fun than it should have been.
somebody's projecting pretty dang hard
I bet these are the same people who think Bernie Sander is a true American.
>>73195960
AND SHIT
>>73196320
Nice try, Ivan.
>>73195472
DareDevil Season 2 brah
>>73196189
GG no re
Just look at the "woman" who wrote the article. Fake black widow? Trips name this Commie.
>>73196364
But you are also Ivan.
>>73196451
The Scarlet Bitch
>>73196441
>>73195383
Punisher Netflix series was confirmed
Gonna be great
Who wins in the Civil War
>>73196099
Trump is like batman and captain America roled into one.
>>73195578
I saw this movie last night so I'm basically the authority on this
Black Panther was a horrible character
first of all; there was 3 or 4 nigger superheros already
second, in order for the black panther to be relevant, they had to reduce the percieved strength of winter soldier and others
I was pissed. How could some nigger literal nigerian prince scammer beat the winter soldier? I never red the comic books; but it's basically a genetically engineered super soldier russian guy.
But nooooo, black panther can go shot for shot with him, which is bullshit. A fucken nigger in a cat costume
Iron man is flying to siberia? fuckin black panther is following him, and he doesnt even notice
everytime black panther was doing something, it would be the same music; the flutes
These 5 superheros are chillin in a room, black panther sneaks in there without them noticing?
fuck it was so annoying. Also I didn't really like the dude that looked like will smith, nor tic tac growing/ shrinking costume guy. If these guys' costumes were the only thing that gave them power, it's obvious iron man with his dickish communist globalism would have trapped them to steal their costumes and reverse engineer their powers onto his. Tony stark is that type of nigga.
pic unrelated just wanted attention
>>73196561
Nobody. Guaranteed a sequel.
>>73196364
Thanks, tovarisch Boris, now let's have some borscht
>>73196561
The Jews
>>73195472
>make punisher great again
but punisher was always garbage
>>73196511
Hormone Hog-Wart
>>73194973
>liberal patriotism
Bahahaha... Since when was Captain America a liberal?
>>73196641
Joss Whedon, pls
>>73196606
I watched it today. I liked black panthers costume m8. It was sexy as fuck. Also, you talk about how winter soldier got their power reduced because of the nig but what about spiderman? He stopped winter soldiers punch with one hand.
>>73196606
If you read the comics the Nig Panther is probably the strongest super hero
>>73196606
> they had to reduce the percieved strength of winter soldier and others
Black Panther is supposed to be rather strong, but Captain America and Winter Soldier are tied for being probably the best melee fighters around, and Panther didn't just fight them to stalemate - he was winning. So, yeah, it was pretty annoying.
>>73196554
Netflix, bah. Should be on HBO and full of torture and gore.
>>73194973
Kek, I saw this last night with some of my very blue-pilled normie friends and they were all pissed at Captain America.
Liberal butt-hurt is truly one of the most enjoyable things in life.
Also Black Panther wuz Kang n shit
>>73195060
That's the black one in the comics.
>>73196762
No joke. I've heard people literally reason that captain America should be a liberal who supports gay rights cuz he grew up in NY.
Daily reminder Alex Jones works for Red Skull
>>73194973
Did they even watch Winter Soldier?
>>73196451
Thecaptainnotaverynicechapoatall
Its not like in Winter Soldier he found out SHIELD was actually hydra in disguise making his beliefs shatter or anything.
>>73196606
BP is a super human with a costume made from fucking vibranium
you are being a really stupid piece of shit that doesn't understand what he is watching
>>73196790
Spidermans physical strength is usually downplayed
>>73194973
>muh gubment
Holy shit, and all this time I thought it was a meme. Seems those people truly do exist.
>>73197002
He was strong as fuck in that film m8.
>>73196606
Comic panther is far stronger and faster than the winter soldier:
>superhumanly acute senses, strength, speed, agility, stamina, durability, healing and reflexes
In the movie he is same as above plus they they added vibranium mesh body armor (same material as captain america's shield).
His character was handled well, but ant man and spiderman are the ones who stole the show.
>>73196870
>blue-pilled normie friends
Your not a true /pol/ack if you have normie friends. Isolate, anon.
>>73195645
This post is lame. Shot down my joy from a thread earlier and hope that you niggers can feed yourselves.
>>73196889
>growing up in NY during the depression
>same thing as growing up in NY in modern libtopia
>>73195816
>huemonkey being edgy
Watch out. Are you the spawn of a war criminal who fled to South America by any chance?
>>73197192
As the movie is out I don't want to have the whole movie spoiled for me as I go and look for reasons why Captain America is right and Iron Man is wrong
>>73195503
Why would billionaire businessman support UN interference in the Avengers?
That seems out of character.
Anyway lads, you can safely say captain america has Irish heritage. I think we all know where he gets his good looks from.
if that made you mad watch this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iK_DYYS-oM
>>73196175
Because they're popular with white males, and white makes aren't to be allowed access to opinions that aren't full cuck.
>>73194973
>grown-up stuff like share power
Kek
Kek
Kekacolypse
So womanly you can hear her queefing through the computer screen.
>>73197002
>Spidermans physical strength is usually downplayed
They got spiderman right for once. He easily outclasses most other marvel heroes aside from the cosmic powers. He has trolled the fuck out of both thor and hulk in previous encoutners.
Spider man has taken on virtually every super hero team at one point or another. He humiliated the X-men, fought the fantastic four to a draw, and toyed around with the avengers each time they fought (usually due to a misunderstanding).
>>73196790
Spider-Man can lift like 1000lbs.
>>73194973
Spiderman was literally a Bernie Sanders supporter
>Telling Captain America he has the right to remain silent
>Ever.
>>73197158
No. Convert them. Open their eyes that they may never be closed again.
>>73195638
Take your most left leaning friends and family and watch as they flip shit over Captain America basically saying the UN is a steaming pile of bullshit with no power.
>>73197638
I'm not much of a comic fag, but when Doc Ock got swapped into Spider-Man's body, and found out just how fucking much Peter was holding back on him, I creamed.
>>73196606
>never read the comics
There's your problem, retard.
Black panther is blessed by the panther for and had stark level tech.
He basically had a suit that stark would build it stark wanted to be a ninja instead of a heavy weapons platform.
>>73194973
>douchebag
did they really write 'douchebag' in an article? top level journalism keks
>>73197652
>can lift like 1000lbs
Captain American can lift 1000lbs.
Spiderman can lift a small building.
>>73197690
I am confused, wasn't Captain always the idealistic one who would blindly support authority that pretends to be pro-freedom (UN)? Captain loves the US Gov.
Then Robert Downy Jr who bankrolled the Avengers, fought against commercialization and militarization of the Iron Man suit and solved mysteries in London is supporting a UN takeover of his life's work?
Who wrote this movie?
>>73197949
>journalism
>implying
>>73197949
They never wrote douchebag in the title you fucking shitskin.
>Captain America became so enlightened that he acknowledged freedom as an inherent part of his existence which needn't be acknowledged by anyone else.
>The mainstream media is unironically telling us that this is un-American.
Where were you when the American Experiment failed?
>>73197652
>Spider-Man can lift like 1000lbs.
In the movie they show him catch an entire car out of the air with his bare hands, and later lift an entire jet bridge (the long tunnel at an airport gate that passengers use to enter the aircraft).
>>73194973
>standard liberal position is completely illiberal
Sounds about right.
>>73194973
>Why don't coloring book characters have the same opinions as one another (and more importantly me)
>>73194973
Captain America as a character always seemed unlikable though. I thought he was supposed to be charismatic.
>>73198054
The writer is a secret Trump and America lover.
Of course he will write about how the UN sucks dick and freedom is the best. Cap represents America.
Iron man represents the liberal jew shills who are willing to trade freedom for """""""""""""security""""""""""""
Did you guys know that guys like Chris Hemsworth and Channing Tatum can't get alot of movie roles? You know the reason?
>hollywood doesn't want strong white male characters. They are too buff, too white
>>73196819
that's gay. All he has is a costume
also, he's the king of fuckin UGANDA
why would he be able to do all these things?
>>73196790
oh and at the end? When Captain America is all "if they know he's here, they'll come for him"
Nigger Panther: "let them try"
*camera pans out, he has a fucken GIANT STATUE OF A PANTHER YOU CAN SEE FROM GOOGLE MAPS
I mean come on. His character has the most holes in it.
>>73196819
why? Why were there so many niggers in that movie? Were they all niggers in the comics? I'm assuming they chose as many of the nigger super heros as they could. But why? Is it because they knew niggers would watch a movie called "Captain America: Civil War?"
>>73196825
seriously it was pissin me off. Also they made Winter Soldier really weak, and you could tell from the context of the movie that Winter Soldier was supposed to be the equivalent of Captain America typically, and then once he was activated he was supposed to be able to beat him because he's roofless and Captain America is batman "I don't want to hurt anyone that bad" Tier.
>>73197000
BP isn't a super human you cuck. He just has a costume. Also, like I said, how come ironman wouldn't just reverse engineer his costume, tic tacs costume, the will smith falcon guy, also why are you so autistic?
>>73197090
What are his origins? why does he have powers? They just added him in so on top of the niggers they would also have "King Nigger: the Black Panther super hero"
Also, Wanda was sexy as fuck
>>73194973
>common sense
Words that Obama made meaningless.
>>73195691
What are you talking about? The feature film is the end product, not an ad. Sure maybe there will be a Macbook air in one scene but honestly it's more immersive to see popular name brands than weird pseudo-knockoff stuff. Product placement is a win-win-win.
>>73194973
Isn't that staying true to canon?
>>73194973
How have these fucktards not read civil war, yet complain about marvel "ruining the character." You don't read the comics, you don't even know key personality traits of the character your complaining about REEEEEE!
It's not that hard, Steve is against putting names in lists because the left's biggest boogeyman, le Hitler, did that before """ killing"""" off all the Jews. They even did an xmen movie with this same plot already! I fucking hate these Nu-journalists, there needs to be a media cleansing.
>>73197638
>He easily outclasses most other marvel heroes aside from the cosmic powers
In terms of people with actual super-strength, Peter is actually pretty weak. But when combined with his speed, agility, and spider-sense the fact he's usually weaker doesn't matter.
>>73197638
>he has trolled the fuck out of both thor and hulk
1. Thor is cosmic
2. Hulk scares the piss out of Spidey
3. None of anything Spidey has done to either of them has anything to do with his strength
Nigga Thor can swing his hammer at twice the speed of light and Hulk has effectively infinite strength because of his power being bullshit.
>>73197451
UN is a club run by globalists (billionaires)
>>73197652
At least 10 tons when he's grown.
>>73198599
Its tonnes.
>>73195701
He isn't fucking Captain Planet, of course he'd object to this
>>73198465
You forgot intelligence. And yeah his spider-sense is what lets him fight well outside his weight class. Passive psychic powers telegraphing all attacks+superhuman agility=you need superspeed or AoEs to even touch him.
>>73198297
are you acting like a retard on purpose?
you are talking about shit you know nothing about while acting like you do, you are the definition of ignorance, holy shit
>talk like you are better than niggers
>while acting like an ignorant nig nog himself
>>73198297
>BP isn't a super human
>What is the heart-shaped-herb
>>73198054
This follows the comics fairly faithfully.
Tony Stark has felt guilty for years for making weapons for the world armies and he submitted to the UN. He struggled with guilt (and alcohol) since the 1970s in the comics.
>>73196865
Watch the second season of Daredevil, you'll get your fill of gore-porn.
The prison block fight in particular.
>>73198054
No, captain america loves an idealized version of america, and regularly opposes corruption.
I'm the comic he steadfastly opposed beaurocratic control of superheros. The US government didn't just want to be in charge of the avengers, they wanted to register and start every powered individual and vigilante, and make it a federal crime to render assistance to people in trouble if you wore a cape or had powers.
They were going so far as to take the legs away from people who had lizard legs because they didn't want to use those lizard legs as soldiers.
Tiny wants to control as much as he can because he thinks him being in charge would make things operatelike a machine, because he's OCD and autistic he thinks they can legislate people into behaving like his robots.
>>73195248
>liberal """"""patriots"""""""
>>73195070
Based John Milius, Wolverines!
>>73198159
Proportionate strength of a spider, dude.
>>73198465
Spider Sense is Parker's actually game breaking power.
Pre-cognition makes his weakness largely not matter.
Otherwise he's a D tier hero.
>>73194973
>Amanda Marcotte
Did not even read it.
>>73198297
Bro, I feel your frustration, black panther is always presented as ridiculously overpowered. They made him way back when so they could reach out to the black community without actually making alot of black super heroes. He's is essentially unbeatable. Plus he never has any emotional or mental weakness. He's the comic book equivalent of Django. His, super power is he's super effective against white males and never loses to them.
>>73197451
He has actually been shown to care a lot about accountability (shutting down his weapons manufacturing), and he is trying to appease his PTSD/Guilt from his recent actions.
That is why he supports the accords
>>73196606
Black panther is supposed to be OP, he has his own country, richer than Stark, injests the raw form of the ingredient in the super soldier serum, and his suit is made of Captain America's shield.
>>73197690
I KNOW
spiderman pissed me off
to be honest, I just didn't really like the cast of characters. I thought it was the rag tag shit superheros, and I also thought spiderman, black panther, and to some extent wanda was overpowered. Wanda should have done way more
Also in the fight between the superheros, it was obvious that that Red God guy, what was his name, vision? It was obvious he could have stopped them all at once if he wanted
anyway, WHY DOESN'T IRONMAN REVERSE ENGINEER TIC TACS SUIT
>>73195530
NO, YOU MOVE.
>>73198671
It is like his fights with Rhino or Juggernaut. Lots of taunting and quick wits.
he doesn't necessarily beat them, that is why I say he "trolls the fuck out of them".
Pic very related. This is a classic spiderman trick for when he fights class 100 opponents.
>>73194973
Liberal's hate... so I'm going to love it.
Small Government For The Win!
>>73197451
Cause his wife is cucking him and he wants less responsibility like a typical leftist
>>73197451
>Why would billionaire businessman support UN interference in the Avengers?
Hmmm... I wonder who? Goy!
>>73198972
>D
C. Daredevil is D and Spidey shits on Daredevil (although just for the record, Daredevil has better reflexes)
Welp looks like I have to see this movie now.
>>73195344
Captain America basically just described conservatism.
>>73195701
Basically wanting the UN to control the US.
>>73195383
There is no way in HELL frank would shoot Capt.
That is one of the few people he truly admires and respects.
>>73196382
was fucking garbage.
Every movie, without fail, has to have a black man in it that fucks white women and is better than white men. Every modern movie.
>>73199122
Because he fucking can't you retard. Vibranium is impossible to make and the only source is Black Panther's own country.
We give you explanations on why Black Panther is op and you act like goddamn nignog.
>>73194973
>the guy is clled 'Captain American'
>omg i think he's patriotic
>>73194973
>they projected this hard onto Cap
But really this is clickbait stealth advertisement.
>>73194973
The Civil War story arc is long established
Were liberal faggots and Salon not fake nerds they would have known this was going to happen when Marvel started these movies
>>73198972
I disagree, A couple of years back he went most of the year without his spider-sense and he turned out alright. He just had to learn how to actually fight when it came to people that are stronger than him.
>>73199504
why are you so fucking delusional? holy fucking shit
>>73194973
Captain America is a young dude from the 1940's. Think about how he feels seeing multikulti. .
>>73199445
Depends on the writer.
Punisher's one major flaw is his standards have never been consistently defined.
He's supposed to be an eye for an eye, but he has shot at petty criminals and even killed noncriminal employees of criminals. This is despite at times being characterized as willing to kill HIMSELF if he ever accidentally kills a bystander.
>>73194973
He's a 1940's military man. And he's experienced repeated conflicts with corrupt authorities. It makes perfect sense within the context of the films.
>>73199016
thank you for not acting like I'm somehow retarded for not reading all of the comics yet still going to a popular movie that I felt had some holes in it.
If the black panther's story would have been explained, it would have made more sense.
Also, was it just me, or was spiderman different than he normally would be? Wasn't spiderman engineering his web in this one?
>>73199071
is that what "vibratium" is? people keep saying that word, like I am supposed to be a fat autist
>>73199050
yea, he was definitely George Soros tier for that one
"oh, a few individuals die when we save the whole planet, therefore we should only save the planet when the entire UN votes on it."
wasn't that a plot hole? The state department guy showing them the collateral damage caused by THEM SAVING THE FUCKING WORLD
also, it was retarded because they had enough power to be completely sovereign if they wanted.
But what I do like about these superhero movies is the philosophical implications of how the humans deal with the superheros. They always make the humans out to be "not knowing what is in their own best good"
So I guess that's why. Although they could easily win a war against the humans if they didn't want them to be sovereign, it's against the humans own best good
Kind of the philosophical question in every super hero movie I guess.
>>73197690
>Spiderman was literally a Bernie Sanders supporter
Well yeah he's a 14 year old
Anyone have that one comic of red skull telling captain America how his country is a lie.
>>73199631
Sorry Cucksta Rico but he's not wrong.
>>73196044
>The script is bound the fact that Stark and Rogers must be polar opposites
This is a problem with a lot of movies.
> Well, they need to fight and we can't be fucked to write an actual compelling story, so let the characters just act completely irrational and against all the previously established characteristics just for the sake of advancing the story in the direction we want.
This happened in the recent batman vs superman movie too.
Based Captain America. I think I might just go check out the movie.
>>73199710
He's also the son of Irish immigrants.
>>73199621
>He just had to learn how to actually fight when it came to people that are stronger than him.
Most of his rogues gallery aren't though.
Fuck, Carnage is the only one that comes to mind that is stronger than Spidey. He literally has to hold back in fights to not rip people limb from limb.
When will you realize Captain America: Civil War is supposed to get us conditioned for Trump's assassination (Illuminati cards) just like London has Fallen is to prepare the UK for their ISIS attack.
Illuminati symbolism blokes.
>>73199843
Batman and Superman didn't have any previously established characteristics in BvS because Superman isn't a character and Batman was rebooted for the film.
>>73194973
>because he has to do grown-up stuff like share power instead of make unilateral decisions for other people
Oh god mah balls. Yes, making unilateral decisions for other people is exactly what komes to mind when someone says "libertarian."
>>73199797
how are any of the nigs in the movie better than the main cast? they are literally fodder tier and don't do anything worth a damn other than the gary stu that is black panther and he never fucks a white woman or get close to doing it
it seems like you are overreacting over seeing a nigger
>>73194973
>Ayn Rand acolyte
Is Marvel redpilled?
>>73199759
>collateral damage caused by THEM SAVING THE FUCKING WORLD
I like how one punch man dealt with this.
(yeah animu is gay etc etc)
He just told them all to fuck off and deal with it. If they didn't like it they should have stopped the meteor themselves.
This is basically what these idiots should do too.
But that would be too much for the bland writers at Hollywood so we will never see something like that.
>>73198942
>>73198972
according to marvel, Spider-man can lift about 15 tons. He's not exactly a lightweight. Captain America can lift about 1000 lbs for reference. Iron man can lift 50 tons in his suit. Both Hulk and Thor go well above 100 tons.
Did they even fucking read Civil War?
>>73194973
>level-headed liberal
>Salon
>>73198292
This, pretty much
Iron man isn't even trading freedom for security. He's doing it to escape accountability. The goodest of goys never want accountability and feel more comfortable under the command of their (((leaders)))
>>73194973
ddddd
>>73195701
Not to mention imagine if, say Latveria got in on that.
Suddenly Doctor Doom can keep superheroes out of pretty much whatever with a little well-placed political maneuvering.
>>73198297
>Winter Soldier was supposed to be the equivalent of Captain America
In the comics Bucky becomes Captain America
>>73194973
I can't believe nobody is talking about the scene at the funeral where all the little kids in London singing in the choir were some form of Arab
>>73199848
I fucking knew it.
>>73199892
There's also the thing with not being bulletproof and having to modify that one suit. But you're right about only some of his rogues being physically stronger than him.
>>73196865
Netflix originals have peaked HBO, though. HBO is just raunchy for suburbanites, with some bondage scenes and a gay romance side-story for no reason whatsoever.
>>73200188
Latveria doesn't exist in the MCU
>>73198054
Have you been watching any of the movies? Since Cap came out of the ice he's been displeased with the state of the country and opposed to the how the government and shield have acted. Fuck, the whole of Winter Soldier was about him fighting a corrupt government.
>>73197773
Can you link to or name that issue? I wanna read that.
I'm a spiderfag.
IRON MAN DID NOTHING WRONG
>>73199848
Irish are white, retard.
>>73199759
They did bring up cognizant points though in stating the heros are basically WMDs
>Where is the Hulk/Thor
>Dunno
>WHY THE FUCK DONT YOU KNOW W
WMDs are massively controlled through the worlds government, but these hero's literally do not answer to anyone.
Both sides of the debate have correct points
The UN would hinder them, and governing people always have agendas.
Hero's cant flaunt sovereign nation's laws without consequences.
>>73194973
> throws tantrums because he has to do grown-up stuff share power instead of make unilateral decisions for other people. It was a betrayal of the character and made the movie less fun than it should have been.
>Unliteral decisions for other people
You'd think someone would google what a libertarian is before writing this article.
I mean yeah he makes capt sound as libertarian as Stalin and hitler. Especially embarrassing that they say he should be more liberal instead, when libertarian is burger for liberal. (Actual liberalism, not the the slur)
>>73199723
>Depends on the writer.
True, BUT Frank has shown that there are lines he will not cross. He will not kill the president of the USA, he won't slaughter children, and no way in HELL would kill Capt. America.
>>73200000
Oh, the digits.
>>73194973
Who cares. Most of /pol/ likes to bootlick. Look at all the circlejerking Trumpfags.
>>73199564
ok, but ironman, the obvious communist "I'm rich and you can trust me and my ego so you gotta share your secrets with me"
would just take his shit. I don't know. There was philosophical plotholes. It was definitely made for the masses; them asses.
>>73200000
Nice get.
They can say that if they like.
But the reality is that if you call something batman then people will automatically associate that character with, you guessed it, batman.
And in our mind batman does have characteristics, namely, no killing, no guns, etc.
And never mind all that.
Does batman have a brain?
In what world do you get mad at superman because some other alien destroyed you office building while fighting with superman?
Should superman have done nothing and let that other cryptonian kill everyone in gothem?
Maybe they missed a scene where bruce got brain damaged and this is why he acted irrationally throughout the movie.
Then there is the scene where superman yells martha and batman suddenly just gives up.
This is not how normal people would act.
We live in a world where people have the same name.
This means absolutely nothing. There were three people with my name in the same class in highschool.
You don't just change 180 degrees because someone says your mothers name.
The entire film was BS.
I spent a good hour criticizing it with my boss who also thought the whole thing was BS.
>>73200549
I think that panel was from punisher kills the marvel universe though, so who gives a shit.
>>73199445
Well in that comic everyone was turning into a cannibal. Cap basically begged Frank to FRANK him since he was turning into one
>>73194973
Marvel villains exist IRL
Cool
>>73196382
>>73196554
>>73196865
He's played by a Jew in DareDevil
>>73200402
It was an entire run, Amazing Spider-Man 698 - 700, Superior Spider-Man, and Avenging Spider-Man 15.1 - 22.
>>73200520
I thought they were potatoes.
>>73194973
I wonder if the people that bitch about this, Gamer Gate, cosplay, and minorities in movies ever read the source material?
>>73196865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zsVn_vZ9zE
>>73195383
You didn't think Dolph Punisher, Punisher, and Punisher War Zone were good?
>>73200144
They don't read comics, just complain about them. And if they demand changes get made, they still don't read the comic afterwards
>>73200654
You don't really get how elseworlds work, do you?
Violating expectations and acting out of character aren't the same thing.
>>73195344
They give that quote to the grand niece of agent carter
>>73200683
No that panel is from Punisher versus the Marvel Universe where everyone was turning into cannibals. Punisher Kills is about frank franking everyone because he was assmad
>>73200805
They just complain.
They like to have opinions but don't want to be informed.
>>73200171
>Captain 'America'
>America taking orders from international 'governments' and unelected, non-soverign tribunals
>Salon being massive commies as usual
Nothing to see here.
>>73200402
>I'm a spiderfag
>Hasn't even been aware of the last three years of books
I'm sure watching movies makes you feel included, but fuck off back to your Pop collection and t-shirts, faggot.
>>73200952
How about violating common fucking sense.
>>73197573
I actually watched the whole thing and thought it was very interesting and insightful. 10/10 thanks for sharing.
>>73196606
You think that's bad?
>>73194973
Captain America is Hitlers dream.
>>73201377
Now that's just silly.
>>73200805
That's like asking whether Anita Sarkeesian actually plays video games... modern lefty liberalism is just complain-y people searching for an excuse to complain about stuff
>>73200140
Nah I mean, that is always the implication about humans in these movies
But I think from the point of view of the illuminarti or the masons or whatever, maybe not to as an extreme as they make it in these movies, but it is true
humanity as a whole would want a scapegoat, and also humanity as a whole would not do what is best for them, there would be power struggles against them
>>73200523
yea basically. The UN WOULD hinder them, but not only the point about the agendas and some countries band together to veto any work they could do, but i think Captain America was definitely more right. I mean, even in the span of the movie, you could see how ironman wasn't following the rules of the UN already, and the heaad of state guy was having them do things the UN didn't approve of, so it was basically just a ploy to gain control over them as a direcetd weapon to the most powerful bidder.
basically it's like what happened with Libya. The UN was supposed to be peaceful, but since the UN, how many countries have been toppled by it's forces?
So it basically became a smokescreen for america to seem like it has the whole world behind it
Plus, like I said, iron man just wanted to do it because he would gian complete power over them. He would be the "cool boss" who could order them to do what he wanted (sometimes we break the rules yo) because he is the richest and most respected by the governments.
Iron man is a fuckin snake weasal jew
>>73201377
>comic writers in charge of being grapplefags
I should stop being disappointed
>>73201377
The writer said it was supposed to be a joke, with Norrin humoring him. At least he admitted he fucked up
>>73198654
>In American English, atonis a unit of measurement equaling 2,000 pounds. In non-U.S. measurements, a ton equals 2,240 pounds. Atonne, also known as ametric ton, is a unit of mass equaling 1,000 kilograms.
>>73197426
how i'm being edgy, filthy burger?
>>73199848
Rogers isnt an Irish name. We were probably just the minority to pander to back then.
Now it will be Mexicans, mixed race kids and muslims.
>>73195248
>liberal patriotism
sounds a lot like a prison rape to me
>>73198297
>Also, Wanda was sexy as fuck
>dat skirt and socks combo
holy shit i could barely contain my boner
>>73194973
>captain America
>literally frozen from ww2 America into modern days
>is a liberal cuck
I can hold my disbelief with super powers but that's too mcuh
>>73194973
>What if they tell us to go somewhere we shouldn't
>What if they tell us not to go somewhere we should
Cap summed up the core of the issue pretty succinctly and even in the scene, Stark couldn't come up with a very good objection except for emotion. Stark was also going through a mid life crisis which was allowing his better judgment and mistrust of shadowy governments to twist his goals.
Not that I expect Salon to be able to grasp that. They were all probably creaming themselves to death over the prospect of Black Panther banging Black Widow.
>>73201300
Yeah, elseworlds do that.
>>73196606
His dad's ring helped him control the vibranium used in Bucky's arm, that's why he got an edge a couple times.
>>73202651
How does a ring let him control metal with his mind?
>>73198297
>Why were there so many niggers in that movie? Were they all niggers in the comics? I'm assuming they chose as many of the nigger super heros as they could. But why?
This is 100% faithful to the comics and it has been this way for 40 years.
The closest thing iron man ever had to a sidekick was Rhodes (who went on to become iron man in the 80s and war machine in the 90s).
Post-WW2 captain America's best friend and longtime crime fighting partner was always the falcon.
>>73202791
>asking this about a superhero movie
>>73195060
fpbp
>>73202805
Here is the book they shared together in the 70s.
The conflict between captain america's ideals and those of the avengers goes back many decades. He would periodically leave and go around doing freedom-related things with just the Falcon.
>>73200965
but the quote was attributed to Agent Carter.
>>73194973
THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND THE UNITED NATIONS HAS ALREADY BEEN INFILTRATED BY HYDRA AND CAPTAIN AMERICA IS RIGHT TO SUPPORT LIBERTY!!!!! FUCK AMANDA MARCOTTE AND FUCK SALON!!!!! I'M SO FUCKING TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW, MAN!!!!!
>>73194973
>He is not team cap
HOW DOES THAT BOOT TASTE FAGGOT?
>Being libertarian is bad
>US was founded by libertarians
>tfw all my m8s are cap America team
feels good man
>>73202848
Well usually the superheroes at least have some kind of vaguely scientific justification for their powers instead of "it just works stop asking questions."
>>73196790
Spideys always been stronk as fuck
