>>81669242 I live by Washingtons Crossing in New Jersey and act every Christmas in the reenactment of crossing the Delaware to slaughtered Brits. In the summer I go tubing on the river and drink beer with my friends on the floating cooler. My neighbor has a house that hosted Washingtons army. How do you Brit losers think about that? You probably need a permit to tube and I can bring my shotgun.
We have a shitload of history to learn about our country m8 and whilst clearly it's a huge part of American history and culture etc it doesn't really register very highly with us at all.
Not trying to be insulting lid, it's your independence and it should be a big deal in America as it shaped your nation, it just isn't taught here as I guess we have more important events in our history to learn about.
>>81669793 >>81669939 >>81670581 in seriousness, history lessons were more like a series of "case studies" looking at particular events in history, not a comprehensive timeline of events from the neolithic to the modern day. i think the exact subjects were chosen by the school from a list of potential subjects made by the government, but that's a guess. i wouldn't be surprised if the american revolution was on the curriculum somewhere. i vaguely remember being taught about the french revolution.
obviously we found time for the obligatory lessons on the slave trade and nazis.
>>81670581 >rely on the french and spanish to get you out of waist high shit >forget about them >celebrate with a holiday dedicated to corporations slinging cheap beer to take advantage of muh patriotism Top kek indeed
>>81671011 >i think the exact subjects were chosen by the school from a list of potential subjects made by the government, They are. My school studied the American west from 1840-1900, along with the history of protest as optional modules. Alternates were Germany 1919-1945, or Russia during the Bolshevik uprising IIRC, along with a load more I don't remember.
>>81670796 Think you need to brush up on your European history pal.
What we do learn about America over here though is about the depression in 1929. its effects on your population and how that affected your country and why it happened..isolationism and all that. We learn about the TVA and public works programs. We also do a bit on your role in WW2 plus some Vietnam as well, but in a more global perspective.
>>81670445 >that it had popular support in the uk and was backed by some uk politicians No, we're taught this and mainly because a lot of our stuff was based on British documents (Magna Carts) and statesmen/critics (Edmund Burke, Thomas Paine etc.)
>>81671800 Honestly Britain it seemed like you were kind of looking for an excuse to make Guy Fawkes Day a holiday. >Lets celebrate that time that Parliment DIDN'T blow up! >BY BLOWING THINGS THE FUCK UP >That fits right?
>>81670602 Couldn't the argument be made that learning about the American Revolution is more important then other parts of your history because the US is still one of the biggest players on the global stage. I mean besides Cromwell the magna carta and the battle of sterling what else do you really need to know.
>>81671599 >we did some stuff about prehistory, the industrial revolution, the russian revolution and some stuff i can't remember
yeah, we did the industrial/russian revolution too. i don't want to exaggerate, it's not like it was a constant stream of multicultural propaganda. we learnt about medieval castles, the norman conquest, the (english) civil war and cromwell.
we did vietnam actually too, so there's some american history.
>>81672120 It actually has nothing to do with blowing things up. Historically bonfires were originally used to celebrate the safety of the king, hence the name Bonfire night. Spergs and underclass scum use it as an excuse to spend their bennies on fireworks.
>>81670864 >thousands of years to go Before the Romans y'all were "Barbarous savages" and were "enriched" by the Romans. Everything after that is good to know stuff but really it only starts just before the Vikings came. I love your history to be honest but it only gets interesting after the Welsh, Anglos, Irish and Scots stop doing the predictable shit
>become leader >get killed >repeat
I was doing my Ancestry shit and my line was some weird fucking Glanmorgan Nobles and there were some fucking hilarious things but not really that much detail and not very important to learn for anyone else. (Dude wanted his land back, so he climbed this guys castle with his bare hands and took him and his daughter hostage...he then married the daughter and got the land back).
Its not. In fact the British Empire is barely mentioned at all.
Been a while since I was at school but we started off young Romans, Dark Ages, Vikings, William the Conquerer, Henry VIII, then Elizabeth I when we got to 14 years old.
For GCSE (15 to 16 years old) which is optional, we start at the outbreak of WW1, then Great Depression, rise of Hitler and WW2.
Pretty weird when you think about it, we go from about 500BC to 1600AD. Then we miss out all the Empire stuff entirely and basically do early 20th century world history (1913-1945).
The Rise of Hitler module in particular went on for ages, almost like they were trying to drive into our minds that Hitler and Nationalism is Baaad mkay! I sense left wing teaching unions had a hand in this!
>>81672805 >Its not. In fact the British Empire is barely mentioned at all. Seriously ?! thats a huge part of your history i mean i get that you guys have the whole PC bullshit but they just gloss over like a three hundred year incredibly culturally significant period in your history ? thats fucking retarded
>>81673218 The Romans basically saved the rest of Europe by introducing a bunch of stuff to them the same could be said of Africa, the only difference is that Europe saw that they needed the improvements while Africa would rather live in mud huts and kill each other over stupid shit while raping babies to prevent HIV
>be a colony of cucks >rebel >have your white house burned down >finally gain independence >do absolutely nothing for 200 years >join in on two world wars, the latter at the last minute and pretend you where somehow the biggest contributor >now a nation of hamplanets, beaners and KANGZ
>>81671011 Kek. I forgot about the slave trade lessons which seemed just crowbarred in from nowhere. I remember the slave-ship plans where all the negroes were packed in head to toe. The brainwashinng seems so obvious now.
Or it could be because its not good for the whole nation to learn about its failures.
for example i would assume that in america they don't spend a great amount of time learning about Vietnam, then again SJW white guild anti nationalism is prevalent among many educational institutions.
Personally i am not at all embarrassed about the British defeat, you won fair and square albeit with some help, as i am not embarrassed by many defeats that Britannia has endured in her bloody history as a global empire.
Thinking about it i would hazard a guess that if we had won, that the following the instability and no doubt ruthlessness on our part would have probably then been taught to us as standard in most schools as an example of how colonialism is flawed or some shit along those lines.
>>81673413 >>81673649 >>81673689 >>81673730 All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
Vikings Romans Celts Medieval history: Henry viii and the conflict with the Catholic Church The crusades Imperial history Armadas 100 years war Wars of the roses Conquests of India, Australia Africa etc The rise of global commerce and the east India trading company Then you have the birth of industrialisation Social reform NHS women's suffrage Both world wars All the stuff you mentioned
And that's just off the top of my head but it all is a part of British history Get what you mean about relevance and all that but historically speaking hundreds of years of the world's past was shaped by Britain so it's all relevant in a way
Politics is different though. In my A levels you could do a politics course and 50% of that was on America. Really interesting political system, incredibly frustrating for making changes though. Even more rigid than parliament over here
The U.S had far more decisive victories in the war of 1812 than the British. They just had the more theatrical ones. They played it defensively for the first two years of the war mind you. We conquered much of Northern Canada under poor military leadership and only got repulsed from Montreal. After they burned D.C and attempted to invade New York they were blown the fuck out so intensely we even wrote a fucking song about it. "Star-Spangled Banner"
>>81669242 I remember The first thing i was ever tough about Britain was in kindergarten, the American revolution.. They where the Red Coats, tea obsessed and the king was a Dick!!.. Only showing us movies and art depicting the 18thc..
I honestly thought England was a country where everyone drank tea walked around wearing red coats, powdered wigs and worshiping there king.... A modern country living in the 18th century..
I was extremely disappointed to find out a year or two later, wile looking at a school poster depicting cities of the world, That London and Britain looked just as boring as every thing hear in the US..
>>81674520 If you actually study or read up on the American Revolution you'd realise it was in the long run a benefit to England as the colonies in America operated at a loss financially. It also saw the end of the French dominance of the Atlantic trade routes and allowed us to secure them, as well as diminish the remnants of the Spanish threat.
Which in turn bankrupted France, prompting their own revolution. Trade is everything, money is everything. Land, sentimental values, easily replaced with money.
I mean who wants to keep rebuilding towns that were burned down by the French (Seven Years War) or by Native Americans (Pontiac's Rebellion) because Washington was incompetent?
Why would we defend or secure the 13 colonies when the French tried to invade our money making factories in the Caribbean?
History is interesting, if Americans truly delved in and studied their revolution in depth they'd realise that it crippled them financially and catapulted England into becoming the Empire.
America being a faggot helped birth the worlds greatest empire. So in short, thank you America. Appreciate it.
>>81675199 >It was the beginning of the end for your Empire What are you on about? The British empire only got bigger after you left. The 19th century was Pax Britannica and the greatest extent of the empire in area came in 1919.
"We were in ownership of what would one day become the most powerful nation on the planet. They declared independence, rebelled against us. A Great War was waged in which we lost and the United States of America became an independent nation, the nation which is now the most powerful on the planet and has been for a century."
> However the UK is really important and has a lot of important history, such as allowing our London to become completely overrun with radical Muslims, and even electing Sadiq Khan as mayor of said city, who supports sharia law and secession from Britan. > That being said, it's easy to see how the Revolutionary war isn't very important to us, and why it isn't taught in our schools! Ok brb guys I hear the call to prayer!
>>81671011 >slave trade Sucks famalam. Here in NI I learned >Native American history >feudal Ireland >1916-1921 Irish history >WWI >WWII >1960-present irish history Was fucking sweet for the most part. Would've loved to learn about Charlemagne and the War of The Rose though
>>81675930 >like when we wrecked Spain's shit before the world even thought we had an army The US was a sleeping giant until WW1 really. Your military was tiny before that point, despite your economy already exceeding that of the UK or the German Empire by 1900.
>>81675915 It's true and you know it Why do you think it took you 6 fucking years to take Spain from the woundeds of the French army on a secondary theater Napoleon gave zero shit about while the main French army was fighting Germans and Russians in Eastern Europe
>>81673468 Yes its disgusting of the teaching board really. I now feel like our glory days were denied and brushed under the carpet but when youre 14 or so you dont realise you are being conned out of your identity. The empire was barely mentioned until it collapsed, except for the Amritsar massacre of course ;)
The teaching Unions in the UK are notoriously left-wing so I think they had a hand in it somehow. I suppose they didnt want us thinking we had to spread more 'civilization' around the world!
As someone who has been educated in UK comprehensives and in US public schools, I feel i can speak to this matter.
Bongland >celts and romans (daube bitch) is taught to very young kids >early medieval >fucking up the french and spanish >little bit of napoleon when you're young, more in year 11 (10th grade) >WWI, multiple times, taught very patriotic and somber when I was at school (early 2000s) but it might be about proud battlefield 1 kangz now >WWII less patriotic, more factual, lots of shoah for us bad goyim >post WWII is A level and GCSE historyif I remember correctly lots of MUH SUEZ MUH INDIA
>>81675148 I sincerely doubt Russia would've had the capabilities for a cross channel invasion. Had the US not """intervened""" Germany would've still lost to Russia but the Ruskos would've sustained astronomical casualties. The optimistic outlook for Russia would've been an entire assimilation of Germany, not just the Eastern front, but not much else.
Most historical scholars have concluded that the war could've been won without US assistance albeit at a longer rate. Credit where credit's due though, you helped shorten the war.
No that's not what it's about at all you retard. Fort Mchenry WAS invaded. It was being bombarded by the British with weapons far more advanced than ours at that time period. However no matter how effective the bombardment miraculously the soldiers garrisoned inside withstood little to no casualties. When the British realized they couldn't force passage by bombarding the fort Charles Napier tried to lead the fleet around it through the western river and got his forces split in a sudden storm. They were turned back from the River under heavy fire from Fort Covington, sustaining HEAVY casualties. The invasion lasted 25 hours and at the end of it both Fort Covington and Mchenry still stood with little to no American Casualties. That's the reason it was put into song. There's no logical reason we won that engagement, if it wasn't for that godsent storm we likely wouldn't have our national anthem.
>>81676773 >it was a 2nd rate European nation with a shitty army We basically were until we jew'd Austria, Prussia and Russia into fighting Napoleon for us, allowing us to seize India entirely for ourselves
Cornwallis was the GW bush of colonial era UK, lovable moron with powerful family. They gave zero fucks about the US and send a punk general to quash what they thought would be a 4 day affair. Oddly we ended up repaying debts incurred in war time to king of england after the war.. as in he was financing us, think on that
>>81677275 >mob starts getting in soldiers faces >all hells breaking loose and the soldiers tell you to back the fuck up or were gonna open fire >continue to chimp out >get shot Dem bawstunz is gud bois day dindu nuffin
>>81676606 thats absolutely disgraceful and a huge disservice to your people bongbro i hope somehow you can turn it around as a history nerd nothing pisses me off more than historical revision ment/ignoring it because it doesnt fit the current narrative although god forbid hillary gets in office i can see some serious shit going down with our public school curriculum its bad enough that most muricans think everyone in the south owned slaves
>>81677491 We're trying senpai. At least with Brexit we've made a start on strengthening our own borders. Just glad we're not in the same mess as Germany and France at the moment. Hope we all pull through though friends
£££$$$ Golden age of piracy, the Seven Years War, the native Americans acting like niggers, George Washington encouraging smuggling, tax avoidance, engaging in land grabs against the French territories, expanding past the Appalachian line.
You were just too expensive to keep baby boy, you had to go back. Sorry but you did, money does not grow on trees, it grows on sugar canes and rum distilleries and spice farms.
I know it's hard, that daddy prefers money over his children but sweetie cakes, we are kikier than the fucking kikes themselves.
Burgerstan >settlers, shit was fucked, poor indians, but they had it coming >puritans are everything >apologize for slavery >some maps about the revolution (teachers genuinely didn't understand how the war went) >loads of constitutional convention >muh 3/5s of a person >butthurt at the 1 slave state, 1 free state compromise >jump to the civil war >THE CONFEDERACY WERE UNDERHANDED LEE WAS A TRAITOR (school in the north) >civil rights for about 1/2 of the semester >WWI: it happened >WWII: fucking japs, did you know stalin was popular here? That sort of thing >more civil right (no korea) >vietnam was nixon and LBJ, poor vietnamese, good draw >more civil rights
>This event founded my country >Therefore other countries should find it as important as we do
Newsflash: We don't give a fuck, most people don't know what 4th July is nor what the American revolution was, just as we don't learn too much about any other of the colonies we lost. The only American history I did was MLK and the civil rights movement, in between learning about inter-war Germany and the Bolsheviks.
Bongs don't expect everyone to know what the Battle of Hastings was because we aren't autistic.
>>81676048 >The British Empire barely even existed yet It really started in the mid 19th century
Pretty much this, wasn't until the French revolution and France purging its aristocracy and therefore neutering its own pre-Napoleonic and Napoleonic navies that allowed British dominance of the seas that really cemented the British Empire.
>Hastings >war of the roses >Henry 8th and the religious wars of his decendents >Lizzy 1st, bit on James and the downfall of Charlie >slave trade >Victorian era and span of empire (no specifics, mostly focused on India and kangaroo land) >WW!/WW2
then GCSE level did WW2 in depth, and the various wars with the french and spanish. Most people drop history at this point as its a bugger. I think only 8 people did it in A level in my school.
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